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| sonic doom User ID: 11391214 06/20/2012 09:48 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you were shocked by Obama instituting immigration reform via an executive order, then you might be a little shocked to learn that the political left is beginning to lay the groundwork for the upcoming debt limit debates. Rep. Nancy Pelosi is currently advocating that President Obama use the 14th amendment of the U.S. constitution and declare that the U.S. debt ceiling is unconstitutional. Quoting: Wonkish Pelosi: Obama Should Raise Debt Limit Directly, Go Around Congress ...She now says that President Obama should use the 14th Amendment to raise the debt ceiling by fiat — to preserve the country’s credit rating and avoid another economically harmful brinksmanship over the country’s borrowing limit... [link to tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com] Nancy Pelosi Says Obama Should Use Constitution To Avert Debt Crisis WASHINGTON -- House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Wednesday that President Barack Obama should use the 14th Amendment to declare the debt ceiling unconstitutional in the event that Congress hurtles toward another debt showdown. "I'm a big fan of the Constitution," Pelosi said during a discussion on raising the debt ceiling in a sit-down with reporters. "The credit validity of the United States shall not be in question." [link to www.huffingtonpost.com] nothing a marxist does shocks me "you mmmmmmake me happy" ~Simple Jack |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18102912 06/20/2012 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. The key part, "authorized by law," which means a debt incured by a legislative act of congress; not a delcalation made by some illegal alien negroid. A raising of the debt cieling must be "authorized by law" to be legit. Pelosi may be a fan of the constitution, but she's too stupid to understand it. |
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| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 06/20/2012 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you were shocked by Obama instituting immigration reform via an executive order, then you might be a little shocked to learn that the political left is beginning to lay the groundwork for the upcoming debt limit debates. Rep. Nancy Pelosi is currently advocating that President Obama use the 14th amendment of the U.S. constitution and declare that the U.S. debt ceiling is unconstitutional. Quoting: Wonkish Pelosi: Obama Should Raise Debt Limit Directly, Go Around Congress ...She now says that President Obama should use the 14th Amendment to raise the debt ceiling by fiat — to preserve the country’s credit rating and avoid another economically harmful brinksmanship over the country’s borrowing limit... [link to tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com] Nancy Pelosi Says Obama Should Use Constitution To Avert Debt Crisis WASHINGTON -- House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Wednesday that President Barack Obama should use the 14th Amendment to declare the debt ceiling unconstitutional in the event that Congress hurtles toward another debt showdown. "I'm a big fan of the Constitution," Pelosi said during a discussion on raising the debt ceiling in a sit-down with reporters. "The credit validity of the United States shall not be in question." [link to www.huffingtonpost.com] nothing a marxist does shocks me Or a powermonger. I'm not sure pelosi,reid,et al have any principles other than enriching themselves and gaining more power over people. Same as the other side. Last Edited by s. d. butler on 06/20/2012 11:31 PM |
| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 06/20/2012 11:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you were shocked by Obama instituting immigration reform via an executive order, then you might be a little shocked to learn that the political left is beginning to lay the groundwork for the upcoming debt limit debates. Rep. Nancy Pelosi is currently advocating that President Obama use the 14th amendment of the U.S. constitution and declare that the U.S. debt ceiling is unconstitutional. Quoting: Wonkish Pelosi: Obama Should Raise Debt Limit Directly, Go Around Congress ...She now says that President Obama should use the 14th Amendment to raise the debt ceiling by fiat — to preserve the country’s credit rating and avoid another economically harmful brinksmanship over the country’s borrowing limit... [link to tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com] Nancy Pelosi Says Obama Should Use Constitution To Avert Debt Crisis WASHINGTON -- House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Wednesday that President Barack Obama should use the 14th Amendment to declare the debt ceiling unconstitutional in the event that Congress hurtles toward another debt showdown. "I'm a big fan of the Constitution," Pelosi said during a discussion on raising the debt ceiling in a sit-down with reporters. "The credit validity of the United States shall not be in question." [link to www.huffingtonpost.com] nothing a marxist does shocks me Or a powermonger. I'm not sure pelosi,reid,et al have any principles other than enriching themselves and gaining more power over people. Same as the other side. What about the "super congress" that was supposed to deal with this. Guess people have already forgotten. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1492809 06/20/2012 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rite-on ...The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18102912 The key part, "authorized by law," which means a debt incured by a legislative act of congress; not a delcalation made by some illegal alien negroid. A raising of the debt cieling must be "authorized by law" to be legit. Pelosi may be a fan of the constitution, but she's too stupid to understand it. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16936971 06/20/2012 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama is trying to push the buttons of the American people just enuf so he can send in the goons for the beat down keep calm this clown and the minions that he serves are going to be rounded up. DO NOT BUY INTO THE HYPE(fear) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1146468 06/20/2012 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18102912 The key part, "authorized by law," which means a debt incured by a legislative act of congress; not a delcalation made by some illegal alien negroid. A raising of the debt cieling must be "authorized by law" to be legit. Pelosi may be a fan of the constitution, but she's too stupid to understand it. Ah but you forgot about part two: debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. Quoting: "for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion" was about the Civil War aka The War of Northern Aggression. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 721335 06/21/2012 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you were shocked by Obama instituting immigration reform via an executive order,... Quoting: Wonkish It's important to correct this common mistake. Obama did not issue an Executive Order. In fact he said his fiat rule would go into effect immediately. Executive Orders require a comment period before they are allowed to go into force. he's a full fledged dictator. meanwhile Congress yawns when they should have issued an impeachment order on Tuesday. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1378340 06/21/2012 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you were shocked by Obama instituting immigration reform via an executive order,... Quoting: Wonkish It's important to correct this common mistake. Obama did not issue an Executive Order. In fact he said his fiat rule would go into effect immediately. Executive Orders require a comment period before they are allowed to go into force. he's a full fledged dictator. meanwhile Congress yawns when they should have issued an impeachment order on Tuesday. So, what do we need to do? Exempt talking about What we need to do. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18102912 06/21/2012 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18102912 The key part, "authorized by law," which means a debt incured by a legislative act of congress; not a delcalation made by some illegal alien negroid. A raising of the debt cieling must be "authorized by law" to be legit. Pelosi may be a fan of the constitution, but she's too stupid to understand it. Ah but you forgot about part two: debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. Quoting: "for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion" was about the Civil War aka The War of Northern Aggression. True. In law, the inclusion of one thing is the exculsion of all others. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 721335 06/21/2012 12:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you were shocked by Obama instituting immigration reform via an executive order,... Quoting: Wonkish It's important to correct this common mistake. Obama did not issue an Executive Order. In fact he said his fiat rule would go into effect immediately. Executive Orders require a comment period before they are allowed to go into force. he's a full fledged dictator. meanwhile Congress yawns when they should have issued an impeachment order on Tuesday. So, what do we need to do? Exempt talking about What we need to do. Start from where you are. Talk to your friends, neighbors, etc. Call your Congressperson. Whatever you can do in your situation, do it. I took the time to correct the error that Obama had issued an EO when he acted by fiat instead. It's helpful to understand correctly just how much of an abuse of power this is. |