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If you were shocked by Obama instituting immigration reform via an executive order, then you might be a little shocked to learn that the political left is beginning to lay the groundwork for the upcoming debt limit debates. Rep. Nancy Pelosi is currently advocating that President Obama use the 14th amendment of the U.S. constitution and declare that the U.S. debt ceiling is unconstitutional.


Pelosi: Obama Should Raise Debt Limit Directly, Go Around Congress
...She now says that President Obama should use the 14th Amendment to raise the debt ceiling by fiat — to preserve the country’s credit rating and avoid another economically harmful brinksmanship over the country’s borrowing limit...
[link to tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com]


Nancy Pelosi Says Obama Should Use Constitution To Avert Debt Crisis
WASHINGTON -- House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Wednesday that President Barack Obama should use the 14th Amendment to declare the debt ceiling unconstitutional in the event that Congress hurtles toward another debt showdown.

"I'm a big fan of the Constitution," Pelosi said during a discussion on raising the debt ceiling in a sit-down with reporters. "The credit validity of the United States shall not be in question."

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
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If you were shocked by Obama instituting immigration reform via an executive order, then you might be a little shocked to learn that the political left is beginning to lay the groundwork for the upcoming debt limit debates. Rep. Nancy Pelosi is currently advocating that President Obama use the 14th amendment of the U.S. constitution and declare that the U.S. debt ceiling is unconstitutional.


Pelosi: Obama Should Raise Debt Limit Directly, Go Around Congress
...She now says that President Obama should use the 14th Amendment to raise the debt ceiling by fiat — to preserve the country’s credit rating and avoid another economically harmful brinksmanship over the country’s borrowing limit...
[link to tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com]


Nancy Pelosi Says Obama Should Use Constitution To Avert Debt Crisis
WASHINGTON -- House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Wednesday that President Barack Obama should use the 14th Amendment to declare the debt ceiling unconstitutional in the event that Congress hurtles toward another debt showdown.

"I'm a big fan of the Constitution," Pelosi said during a discussion on raising the debt ceiling in a sit-down with reporters. "The credit validity of the United States shall not be in question."

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
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nothing a marxist does shocks me
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06/20/2012 09:54 PM
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They are all totally insane.
God help us.
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Can't the military overthrow his ass already?
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Is he the Supreme Court now?
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...The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.

The key part, "authorized by law," which means a debt incured by a legislative act of congress; not a delcalation made by some illegal alien negroid.

A raising of the debt cieling must be "authorized by law" to be legit. Pelosi may be a fan of the constitution, but she's too stupid to understand it.
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They are all totally insane.
God help us.
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Thanks Brit
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bump

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grrrrrrrrrr
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06/20/2012 10:46 PM
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who cares anymore. just leave me and my property alone. they are my only two rules
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buttSuck it obama
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who cares anymore. just leave me and my property alone. they are my only two rules
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Same here. Fuck 'em. They have no authority anymore.
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06/20/2012 11:30 PM
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Re: Obama set to bypass Congress and raise the U.S. debt limit by declaring it unconstitutional
If you were shocked by Obama instituting immigration reform via an executive order, then you might be a little shocked to learn that the political left is beginning to lay the groundwork for the upcoming debt limit debates. Rep. Nancy Pelosi is currently advocating that President Obama use the 14th amendment of the U.S. constitution and declare that the U.S. debt ceiling is unconstitutional.


Pelosi: Obama Should Raise Debt Limit Directly, Go Around Congress
...She now says that President Obama should use the 14th Amendment to raise the debt ceiling by fiat — to preserve the country’s credit rating and avoid another economically harmful brinksmanship over the country’s borrowing limit...
[link to tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com]


Nancy Pelosi Says Obama Should Use Constitution To Avert Debt Crisis
WASHINGTON -- House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Wednesday that President Barack Obama should use the 14th Amendment to declare the debt ceiling unconstitutional in the event that Congress hurtles toward another debt showdown.

"I'm a big fan of the Constitution," Pelosi said during a discussion on raising the debt ceiling in a sit-down with reporters. "The credit validity of the United States shall not be in question."

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: Wonkish


nothing a marxist does shocks me
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Or a powermonger. I'm not sure pelosi,reid,et al have any principles other than enriching themselves and gaining more power over people. Same as the other side.

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Re: Obama set to bypass Congress and raise the U.S. debt limit by declaring it unconstitutional
If you were shocked by Obama instituting immigration reform via an executive order, then you might be a little shocked to learn that the political left is beginning to lay the groundwork for the upcoming debt limit debates. Rep. Nancy Pelosi is currently advocating that President Obama use the 14th amendment of the U.S. constitution and declare that the U.S. debt ceiling is unconstitutional.


Pelosi: Obama Should Raise Debt Limit Directly, Go Around Congress
...She now says that President Obama should use the 14th Amendment to raise the debt ceiling by fiat — to preserve the country’s credit rating and avoid another economically harmful brinksmanship over the country’s borrowing limit...
[link to tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com]


Nancy Pelosi Says Obama Should Use Constitution To Avert Debt Crisis
WASHINGTON -- House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Wednesday that President Barack Obama should use the 14th Amendment to declare the debt ceiling unconstitutional in the event that Congress hurtles toward another debt showdown.

"I'm a big fan of the Constitution," Pelosi said during a discussion on raising the debt ceiling in a sit-down with reporters. "The credit validity of the United States shall not be in question."

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: Wonkish


nothing a marxist does shocks me
 Quoting: sonic doom


Or a powermonger. I'm not sure pelosi,reid,et al have any principles other than enriching themselves and gaining more power over people. Same as the other side. What about the "super congress" that was supposed to deal with this. Guess people have already forgotten.
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Rite-on

...The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.

The key part, "authorized by law," which means a debt incured by a legislative act of congress; not a delcalation made by some illegal alien negroid.

A raising of the debt cieling must be "authorized by law" to be legit. Pelosi may be a fan of the constitution, but she's too stupid to understand it.
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Nancy Pelosi, the dumbest, most vile and corrupt woman alive.
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Obama is trying to push the buttons of the American people just enuf so he can send in the goons for the beat down keep calm this clown and the minions that he serves are going to be rounded up. DO NOT BUY INTO THE HYPE(fear)
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...The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.

The key part, "authorized by law," which means a debt incured by a legislative act of congress; not a delcalation made by some illegal alien negroid.

A raising of the debt cieling must be "authorized by law" to be legit. Pelosi may be a fan of the constitution, but she's too stupid to understand it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18102912


Ah but you forgot about part two:
debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.
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"for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion" was about the Civil War aka The War of Northern Aggression.
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Can't the military overthrow his ass already?
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No doubt, what the hell is up with our military....
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Can't the military overthrow his ass already?
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No doubt, what the hell is up with our military....
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Guess I answered my own question. It is obviously not Our military anymore....
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Wow.. how long will Americans let Obama wreck their country??
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How long will we allow this to continue?
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King Obama next he will pass a law that we have to bow to him
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Wow.. how long will Americans let Obama wreck their country??
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Hi swede friend!

Do you people stand up when your freedoms are taken away? If so, I think I'd rather live in your country.
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Wow.. how long will Americans let Obama wreck their country??
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Hi swede friend!

Do you people stand up when your freedoms are taken away? If so, I think I'd rather live in your country.
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If you were shocked by Obama instituting immigration reform via an executive order,...
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It's important to correct this common mistake. Obama did not issue an Executive Order. In fact he said his fiat rule would go into effect immediately.

Executive Orders require a comment period before they are allowed to go into force.

he's a full fledged dictator. meanwhile Congress yawns when they should have issued an impeachment order on Tuesday.
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We are weak and do nothing. wth do they fear?
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If you were shocked by Obama instituting immigration reform via an executive order,...
 Quoting: Wonkish


It's important to correct this common mistake. Obama did not issue an Executive Order. In fact he said his fiat rule would go into effect immediately.

Executive Orders require a comment period before they are allowed to go into force.

he's a full fledged dictator. meanwhile Congress yawns when they should have issued an impeachment order on Tuesday.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 721335


So, what do we need to do? Exempt talking about
What we need to do.
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Hyper-inflation here we come!
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Re: Obama set to bypass Congress and raise the U.S. debt limit by declaring it unconstitutional
...The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.

The key part, "authorized by law," which means a debt incured by a legislative act of congress; not a delcalation made by some illegal alien negroid.

A raising of the debt cieling must be "authorized by law" to be legit. Pelosi may be a fan of the constitution, but she's too stupid to understand it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18102912


Ah but you forgot about part two:
debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.
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"for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion" was about the Civil War aka The War of Northern Aggression.
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True. In law, the inclusion of one thing is the exculsion of all others.
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If you were shocked by Obama instituting immigration reform via an executive order,...
 Quoting: Wonkish


It's important to correct this common mistake. Obama did not issue an Executive Order. In fact he said his fiat rule would go into effect immediately.

Executive Orders require a comment period before they are allowed to go into force.

he's a full fledged dictator. meanwhile Congress yawns when they should have issued an impeachment order on Tuesday.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 721335


So, what do we need to do? Exempt talking about
What we need to do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1378340


Start from where you are. Talk to your friends, neighbors, etc. Call your Congressperson. Whatever you can do in your situation, do it.

I took the time to correct the error that Obama had issued an EO when he acted by fiat instead. It's helpful to understand correctly just how much of an abuse of power this is.

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