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Many Have Said Yoga Is Demonic Worship - If So - This Is Frightening!

 
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Iam a traditional yogi , and yoga have nothing with all this non sense ideias of demoniac practices , spirits and all that bullshit...

yoga is not religion, yoga is more like science than anything else, is the hindu ancient science methodology of self-realization.


go study and meet real yogis before start to repeat that non sense that fundamentalist terrorists religions spred out...



yoga can be practiced by anyone, no matter what religion you follow , you can be also atheist, or whatever you want....


yoga is yoga.
 Quoting: kringor


You're funny...you said it's not religion...but it IS hindu ancient science methodology of self realization. What an oxymoron.

Hinduism is a religion. Methodology of self-realization is defintely not a sceintific term. At very best it is a psychological term that falls under a fringe heading.

If I said it was a Christian ancient science methodology of...you would INSTANTLY argue that it was a religi-tard exercise.

So...don't give me your crap, we can see right through it. By the way...Hinduism has a tremendous amount of spirits, gods and what not in it...many of which will allegedly betray you, hurt you, curse you, etc., if you do things incorrectly in that faith.
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Never fails, people mock what they don't understand, or goes against what they believe......open your mind. Just cause a book says something is wrong doesn't mean it is.
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I'm curious...what book says it's wrong?
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Yoga is an eastern religion. It's purpose is to connect with pagan deities. We are told explicitly by Paul in the Bible that such deities are demons. It's that simple.

In fact the Yogi's themselves admit as much:

""Is Yoga a religion that denies Jesus Christ? Yes. Just as Christianity denies the Hindu MahaDevas such as Siva, Vishnu, Durga and Krishna, to name a few, Hinduism and its many Yogas have nothing to do with God and Jesus (though we do respect that others believe in this way). As Hindus who live the Yogic lifestyle, we appreciate when others understand that all of Yoga is all about the Hindu religion. Modern so-called 'yoga' is dishonest to Hindus and to all non-Hindus such as the Christians."

Danda,
Dharma Yoga Ashram
(Classical Yoga Hindu Academy)"

[link to www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com]
 Quoting: SevenThunders


EXCELLENT post. Thank you!
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"Thousands of people stretched and posed on the streets of Times Square in a massive hot yoga practice that lived up to its name as temperatures in New York City climbed to nearly 100 degrees.

More than 14,000 people were expected on Wednesday to lay out on yoga mats and find their inner peace to celebrate the longest - and possibly hottest - day of the year with the summer solstice."


Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
 Quoting: Idgits


The Yoga form is not demonic, what is demonic is who you are praying to. The thing is if you are absent christ, then you are demonic. This world is NOT holy, this is all flesh and it will burn!
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Yoga is an eastern religion. It's purpose is to connect with pagan deities. We are told explicitly by Paul in the Bible that such deities are demons. It's that simple.

In fact the Yogi's themselves admit as much:

""Is Yoga a religion that denies Jesus Christ? Yes. Just as Christianity denies the Hindu MahaDevas such as Siva, Vishnu, Durga and Krishna, to name a few, Hinduism and its many Yogas have nothing to do with God and Jesus (though we do respect that others believe in this way). As Hindus who live the Yogic lifestyle, we appreciate when others understand that all of Yoga is all about the Hindu religion. Modern so-called 'yoga' is dishonest to Hindus and to all non-Hindus such as the Christians."

Danda,
Dharma Yoga Ashram
(Classical Yoga Hindu Academy)"

[link to www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com]
 Quoting: SevenThunders


Yoga is not a religion, have you ever heard someone say oh, I believe in yoga , , when doing yoga nothing is said about Jesus or God, now remember we are talking about Hatha yoga, postures. I follow Jesus as my saviour, but my Jesues lets me see all men and there beliefs, he doesnt tell me to only see him, there are many roads that lead to him and the Father, I wont tell others my road is the only one
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Please don't be so foolish. THIS IS A MASTER TEACHER telling you that yoga is a religion! How much more will it take to convince you?
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Isnt judging others a sin? so when you say people who do yoga are bad and arent following Jesus, you are judging others.You are sinning in Gods eyes.
 Quoting: MONSTER


Reading a few pages of the bible might help you know what it says
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Yoga is an eastern religion. It's purpose is to connect with pagan deities. We are told explicitly by Paul in the Bible that such deities are demons. It's that simple.

In fact the Yogi's themselves admit as much:

""Is Yoga a religion that denies Jesus Christ? Yes. Just as Christianity denies the Hindu MahaDevas such as Siva, Vishnu, Durga and Krishna, to name a few, Hinduism and its many Yogas have nothing to do with God and Jesus (though we do respect that others believe in this way). As Hindus who live the Yogic lifestyle, we appreciate when others understand that all of Yoga is all about the Hindu religion. Modern so-called 'yoga' is dishonest to Hindus and to all non-Hindus such as the Christians."

Danda,
Dharma Yoga Ashram
(Classical Yoga Hindu Academy)"

[link to www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com]
 Quoting: SevenThunders


This is a difficult topic for several reasons. First there's a general misunderstanding and even ignorance about people's OWN faith and also about everything foreign. I had the Christian brainwashing system teaching me everything about Hinduism or other religions is pagan and evil just to glorify Christianism, yet the documents of the Bible were in the hands of the very pagan Vatican which even owns banks and created Holy Inquisition, Crusades and has been involved in all wars. As a matter of fact they didn't include the Gospel of Thomas along with the other 4 and is quite similar except certain verses in which it's defied the chauvinist macho concept of deity. As a matter of fact jewish people rejected everything preached by Christ because his message looked pretty VEDANTA talking about the inner father, the light which illuminates the whole body, the praying in silence, the inner chambers, the I AM the path, the kingdom which is not outside like Jehovah's Witnesses imagine but within if we pay attention to Greek text, the "repent" which in Aramaic is "teshuva" meaning get back to yourself, the YOKE which is yuj or the equivalent of yoke in sanscrit, etc. etc, etc. I have done the yoga asanas and never got in contact with any entity and my breathing is better, the muscles and bones. I guess if Christians saw Messiah getting away from the 3 favorite disciples climbing up Hermon or Thabor and a cloud covered them and a couple of dead men Moses and Eliyah talking with him about FUTURE EVENTS in Jerusalem, they would treat Christ as a yogui consulting dead and want to stone them all, hence CHrist said " don't mention this to anyone"..... but Christians didn't even read the whole scripture from Genesis to Apocalypse except memorizing some verses and studying "topics", how would they understand deeper? And I have to confess there are different paths of yoga and perhaps some asanas and with certain mind antenna attitude could contact with something evil even when it has not been my experience.... now the Hndu gods look like cherubim mentioned in Ezekiel, don't they?????
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Christians ignore their own Bible and are NOT reading, they don't want to learn anything because they think they really know....
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Osho was poisoned little by little just by explaining how society, education and religion work against man and taught some excellent exercises trying to achieve consciousness. The man died. Everyone saying to do something out of the box will be exterminated. He and Krishnamurti basically said the systems don't help men but just a possibility which is very rare. This thing about Hinduism became -like everything in USA- a sort of Mc Donald consume, put in bags and sell the package of salvation. Even to master physical asanas is extremelly hard and usually western people only care about certain physical benefits. I mean if Rachel Welch preserves her beauty with yoga, women are gonna practice the superficial training just to,look like her and that was never the case in India. It's absurd the saying meditation is setting your mind in blank like watching a white screen in front of a movie theatre screen because the THOUGHTS arise and our mind is always thinking like a monkey jumping from one tree to another, endlessly. It's more OBSERVATON of the thoughts, as if they were clouds passing by and because of the observation there will be a change, the observer gets conscious of what is observed or thought, another perception, this is just a first step. In my experience doing Mind Silva method I saw visions, like Apocalypse much deeper than any stone trip with mushrooms or ayahuasca and I tell you this, I saw a black pit of darkness as if I were in a black hole and the FEAR made me consciously get of of there but closed a door and no key can open that ..... so, just few yoguis can tell about perils or advantages....... in a time where are no masters, what do you do? Christ message was not for the mob which is 90% of mankind, just for some disciples... and the transfiguration happen as a promise of witnessing the inner kingdom of God he did a week earlier.... you don't know anything, I don't know anything and few know something .... May the peace be with you, shalom, salaam.....
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Yoga is an eastern religion. It's purpose is to connect with pagan deities. We are told explicitly by Paul in the Bible that such deities are demons. It's that simple.

In fact the Yogi's themselves admit as much:

""Is Yoga a religion that denies Jesus Christ? Yes. Just as Christianity denies the Hindu MahaDevas such as Siva, Vishnu, Durga and Krishna, to name a few, Hinduism and its many Yogas have nothing to do with God and Jesus (though we do respect that others believe in this way). As Hindus who live the Yogic lifestyle, we appreciate when others understand that all of Yoga is all about the Hindu religion. Modern so-called 'yoga' is dishonest to Hindus and to all non-Hindus such as the Christians."

Danda,
Dharma Yoga Ashram
(Classical Yoga Hindu Academy)"

[link to www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com]
 Quoting: SevenThunders


Yoga is not a religion, have you ever heard someone say oh, I believe in yoga , , when doing yoga nothing is said about Jesus or God, now remember we are talking about Hatha yoga, postures. I follow Jesus as my saviour, but my Jesues lets me see all men and there beliefs, he doesnt tell me to only see him, there are many roads that lead to him and the Father, I wont tell others my road is the only one
 Quoting: MONSTER


Please don't be so foolish. THIS IS A MASTER TEACHER telling you that yoga is a religion! How much more will it take to convince you?
 Quoting: Idgits


While I am not a master yoga teacher, there is no such thing, I have been a yoga instructor for about 17 years. I also was a comparative religious studies major in college, so I have read most of the great books, so to speak. And in no way shape or form do I consider myself a Hindu, although I have reverence for the doctrines of many major religious texts, Patanjalis Yoga Sutras do not mandate any particular deity worship.

As in any religion or ideology, there are those who are zealous and attempt to twist rhetoric in order to enact control. It sounds like there are some on this forum attempting to discredit and malign something they clearly have no true knowledge of and are voicing judgement from an ignorant stand point.

Gnothi Seauton, before thou speaketh.....
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Indeed, and in that ignorance, maybe 0.0000001% of them have read or asked what the heck was Ezekiel doing when as a prophet re-enacted a sort of voodoo magic. In chapter 4 we read he laid down in front of the miniature of the city for a number of days representing years, the miniature was done IN SCALE inches meaning miles, that is space-time magic a la Freemason considering aspects of architecture. The prophet had to be tied up and cooked upon literal animal's SHIT because he required "God" to change his OWN excrement to be replaced by bullshit. He had to burn his hair and odd things because HIS OWN SUFFERING was going to happen as a black magic in a colective sense to Israelites. These same Christians never asked why God ordered some prophets to marry whores or why Isaiah had to run naked for 3 years...... things that would happen to Israel as a nations; they don't ask themselves why priests -according to Leviticus- had to put their hands upon a SCAPEGOAT as a sacrifice to the DEMON AZAZEL in the same way Christ had tomne tempted in the desert by an evil real creature. They have not compared Buda's life (Sidartha) or Krishna in order to have a little bit of understanding at least. They have forgotten their own Christianism fell into apostasy and degeneration. They fell as if they were immaculated when the fact is they are filled with more blood and paganism than Tibetan monks ever. Hypocrites. They think God maybe searching souls in their particular churches, and since there are hundreds of churches, all of them are blind people leading other blind ones like them..... repeating like parrots the parables they never understood with simple "explanations".
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Now, if even not reading their own Bible source they DARE to discuss about their faith, you can imagine from where their utterances come from! Bullet backfire from their arses.
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Osho was poisoned little by little just by explaining how society, education and religion work against man and taught some excellent exercises trying to achieve consciousness. The man died. Everyone saying to do something out of the box will be exterminated. He and Krishnamurti basically said the systems don't help men but just a possibility which is very rare. This thing about Hinduism became -like everything in USA- a sort of Mc Donald consume, put in bags and sell the package of salvation. Even to master physical asanas is extremelly hard and usually western people only care about certain physical benefits. I mean if Rachel Welch preserves her beauty with yoga, women are gonna practice the superficial training just to,look like her and that was never the case in India. It's absurd the saying meditation is setting your mind in blank like watching a white screen in front of a movie theatre screen because the THOUGHTS arise and our mind is always thinking like a monkey jumping from one tree to another, endlessly. It's more OBSERVATON of the thoughts, as if they were clouds passing by and because of the observation there will be a change, the observer gets conscious of what is observed or thought, another perception, this is just a first step. In my experience doing Mind Silva method I saw visions, like Apocalypse much deeper than any stone trip with mushrooms or ayahuasca and I tell you this, I saw a black pit of darkness as if I were in a black hole and the FEAR made me consciously get of of there but closed a door and no key can open that ..... so, just few yoguis can tell about perils or advantages....... in a time where are no masters, what do you do? Christ message was not for the mob which is 90% of mankind, just for some disciples... and the transfiguration happen as a promise of witnessing the inner kingdom of God he did a week earlier.... you don't know anything, I don't know anything and few know something .... May the peace be with you, shalom, salaam.....
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oh PLEASE, Osho was NOT poisoned, but his disciples DID poison (in literal sense) many people...
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Yoga is a practice of Hindu religion.

Pure and simple.




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Yoga is a practice of Hindu religion.

Pure and simple.




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Iam a traditional yogi , and yoga have nothing with all this non sense ideias of demoniac practices , spirits and all that bullshit...

yoga is not religion, yoga is more like science than anything else, is the hindu ancient science methodology of self-realization.


go study and meet real yogis before start to repeat that non sense that fundamentalist terrorists religions spred out...



yoga can be practiced by anyone, no matter what religion you follow , you can be also atheist, or whatever you want....


yoga is yoga.
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Iam a traditional yogi , and yoga have nothing with all this non sense ideias of demoniac practices , spirits and all that bullshit...

yoga is not religion, yoga is more like science than anything else, is the hindu ancient science methodology of self-realization.


go study and meet real yogis before start to repeat that non sense that fundamentalist terrorists religions spred out...



yoga can be practiced by anyone, no matter what religion you follow , you can be also atheist, or whatever you want....


yoga is yoga.
 Quoting: kringor


bump

omtatsat
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I don't know about demons, I don't know about spirits but yoga IS a religious practice no matter how the west packages and serves this.

This may be a bit hard to digest for the westerns who've been brainwashed that it's just a "practice for the body and mind".
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practicing yoga won't make you satanic, hindu or anything else that you don't want. Just like practicing a Japanese karate style won't make you Japanese.
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You see...it's comments like this that make me kinda realize I've got it right when I take your comment with a grain of salt. To an ignorant person, your statement might make a lot of sense. But...to people who actually read, learn, practice, etc., your statement is foolishness and useless.

Karate IS A RELIGION, ask those who follow it "religiously". There is one other particular religion that is often associated with Karate, Zen Buddhism. Wether you are aware that you're practicing a religion or not doesn't matter. If I teach you my religious practices but never tell you they're in fact religious, it doesn't mean you're not practicing a religion. It just means you're doing something without knowledge or understanding of where it originated. If "gods" or "demons" or "fallen angels" have taught people to contact the spirits through certain poses and chants, then...when a person learns these poses and chants during an exercise session, the spirits are still going to be called through the poses and chants wether you meant to call them or not!
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Osho was poisoned little by little just by explaining how society, education and religion work against man and taught some excellent exercises trying to achieve consciousness. The man died. Everyone saying to do something out of the box will be exterminated. He and Krishnamurti basically said the systems don't help men but just a possibility which is very rare. This thing about Hinduism became -like everything in USA- a sort of Mc Donald consume, put in bags and sell the package of salvation. Even to master physical asanas is extremelly hard and usually western people only care about certain physical benefits. I mean if Rachel Welch preserves her beauty with yoga, women are gonna practice the superficial training just to,look like her and that was never the case in India. It's absurd the saying meditation is setting your mind in blank like watching a white screen in front of a movie theatre screen because the THOUGHTS arise and our mind is always thinking like a monkey jumping from one tree to another, endlessly. It's more OBSERVATON of the thoughts, as if they were clouds passing by and because of the observation there will be a change, the observer gets conscious of what is observed or thought, another perception, this is just a first step. In my experience doing Mind Silva method I saw visions, like Apocalypse much deeper than any stone trip with mushrooms or ayahuasca and I tell you this, I saw a black pit of darkness as if I were in a black hole and the FEAR made me consciously get of of there but closed a door and no key can open that ..... so, just few yoguis can tell about perils or advantages....... in a time where are no masters, what do you do? Christ message was not for the mob which is 90% of mankind, just for some disciples... and the transfiguration happen as a promise of witnessing the inner kingdom of God he did a week earlier.... you don't know anything, I don't know anything and few know something .... May the peace be with you, shalom, salaam.....
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oh PLEASE, Osho was NOT poisoned, but his disciples DID poison (in literal sense) many people...
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It's my understanding he was posioned little by little by means of a dentist. I don't have any reason to doubt this information because it's a fact he was banned in many countries and whomever has read books with his recorded words understands why: because his words are against whatever stablishment WHICH INCLUDES whatever decisions made by his disciples. Anyway, my words are in a context dealing with the attitude of the people whenever there's a thread to their personal believes. In my particular case, I have never said yoga doesn't belong to a system. I agree with you it does and added there are different paths of yoga, etc.
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Pat Robertson said during one of his shows (hubby and I saw a clip on Youtube) that yoga was satanism.

Both our jaws dropped. Neither one of us are practicing Christians, nor do we practice yoga ... but come on ... how in the WORLD did that man equate yoga with satanism ???

Some of the stupidest things come out of that man's mouth and yet people continue to send him money. I kill brain cells trying to figure that out. ARGH!
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You really must be aware of what yoga does. Just because they're not using the American hyped up analogies of people screaming out pleas for satan to enter them, doesn't mean they're not channeling or calling for spiritual embodiment, otherwise known as possession. Every single major teacher of yoga will tell you that you ARE CHANNELING SPIRITS into your body. You can't deny, that is NOT a CHRISTIAN definition, this is the statement of all the people who founded and teach yoga. Stop denying truth!


This is one more yoga teaching and defining group

"Steps of Nada Yoga
Focus attention on the spirit through visualization, mantramic repetition, or feeling the essence of your spirit.

Contemplate at the seat of the spirit, bringing the attention into union with the spirit. Repeat your contemplative mantra to increase awareness.

Through absorption, the spirit enters the inner channels of the Nada. It opens the blocked areas in these channels to the level of the ensouling entity. Do this for light and sound, or any other channels present in the domain in which you work."


[link to www.mudrashram.com]
 Quoting: Idgits


If you are not focused on channeling, there is no channeling. For people who grew up doing yoga as a religious exercise, the channeling habit is hard (maybe impossible) to break.

Trust me, if you are moving energy around in your body, you can feel it even when it is just your own energy, and it is a unique feeling.
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I know a guy who's been teaching yoga for many years and yet he never cared even to read about the origins of the asanas and wanted me to "speak" to others rather than study the things by himself. As I said before even the name yoga comes from yuj which is the equivalent of yoke. Of course, Christians would disregard the issue with a simple text quoting the Bible verse about Christ saying "take my yoke which is light" or the other talking about the yoke of demons. The fact is in meditation any mind can eventually enter in any channel floating beyond invisible. Since in India the practice has gone for thousands of years, it"s a fact the visions and phenomena witnesses is widespread more than in Western civilization. In the same way Gurdjiev borrowed some of his exercises and dances with derviches (hello, poster from Turkey) which does something with the blood, that spinning..... and there are important things to be learned in different paths.
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Pat Robertson said during one of his shows (hubby and I saw a clip on Youtube) that yoga was satanism.

Both our jaws dropped. Neither one of us are practicing Christians, nor do we practice yoga ... but come on ... how in the WORLD did that man equate yoga with satanism ???

Some of the stupidest things come out of that man's mouth and yet people continue to send him money. I kill brain cells trying to figure that out. ARGH!
 Quoting: OnTheFence


You really must be aware of what yoga does. Just because they're not using the American hyped up analogies of people screaming out pleas for satan to enter them, doesn't mean they're not channeling or calling for spiritual embodiment, otherwise known as possession. Every single major teacher of yoga will tell you that you ARE CHANNELING SPIRITS into your body. You can't deny, that is NOT a CHRISTIAN definition, this is the statement of all the people who founded and teach yoga. Stop denying truth!


This is one more yoga teaching and defining group

"Steps of Nada Yoga
Focus attention on the spirit through visualization, mantramic repetition, or feeling the essence of your spirit.

Contemplate at the seat of the spirit, bringing the attention into union with the spirit. Repeat your contemplative mantra to increase awareness.

Through absorption, the spirit enters the inner channels of the Nada. It opens the blocked areas in these channels to the level of the ensouling entity. Do this for light and sound, or any other channels present in the domain in which you work."


[link to www.mudrashram.com]
 Quoting: Idgits


You are an IDIOT Spirit= Chi, Ki or life force not spirits as in ghost, Is internal energy force. You can't reason with bibbletards, than meditation is satanic too, or going out to a park and laying down on the grass and clearing your mind is satanic. yoda
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If you compare religions you will find out many revelations. For example, just as the temple of Jerusalen was anthropomorphous or in the shape of a man, so was the case in India and Egypt and the secret hidden dark chambers represent the heart or the brain. Israel temple with curtains lf cherubim, ark of the covenant with hybrid humanimal cherubim (not angels as usually portrayed in illustrations and films), huge metal bulls, incense, special weaving to avoid the sweating of Levites, small bells to produce a sound, specific colors... all done to create something with the practicioners in frequencies of color, sound, smell...... I said before Ezekiel description of cherubim which are 4-faced monsters with a single head, 4 wings and eyes all over their bodies and wings and Isaiah and Apocalypse describing snake-winged seraphim.. such creatures are gods and demons with similar features worldwide. Yet, since Christians never meditated they have comsidered them as simple "symbols" or archetypes of qualities. or the 4 writers of gospels or even aleatory fingerpicked stars creating "constellations". In India people have SEEN such with objectivity which is subjective to others because scientific tools are worthless even to print a photocopy of the dream you dreamt yesterday night!
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Funny how bibletards think everything is evil even if you do Yoga for health reasons and detach from all the religious aspects of it.

I don't know the exact verse but I believe the bibble says somewhere that you should not harm your body, be active and take care of your body and I guarantee you that bibbletards in American are the most unhealthy obese Walmart food buying sheep in America.

I do Yoga for health reasons and don't involve the Hindu religion whatsoever and I can tell you there is nothing better than challenging yourself to hold a pose, feeling flexible, distressing from a long days work and being able to clear your mind from our busy society.

I feel renewed and it has help my lower back herniated disc tremendously.


For those of you that want to try yoga without the religious aspect of it there is a donation base yoga foundation that is called Yoga for the people. These studios are basically run by itself no profits. Anybody can go in there do yoga and donate what they can or do it for free regardless or religion, class, weight, race and I guarantee you that there is no religion attach to it whatsoever and you can go as many times as you want or as least as you like without any commitments
[link to yogatothepeople.com]

On top of that Yoga is not the only practice that is attacked bibbletards also think that martial arts are demonic LMAO.
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A simple practice of paying attention to the brief moments of stillness between breathing in and breathing out makes an incredible transformation. If you keep trying to do this whenever you remember during the day and for several days, just by paying attention there's a change in the rythm and it seems it takes a little longer the breathing or the pause. Within days you can feel even your heart pumping. This doesn't mean any demon is shaking me from within but how can you explain to a retarded Christian who maybe imagines everytime he sneezes the spirit of the air could enter his lungs! Actually tha was the thought in Middle Ages. The danger exists but once again if in certain meditations you can see realities beyond our visual spectrum, watching not necessarily mean they have to control you. And is not something everyone would see.
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Osho was poisoned little by little just by explaining how society, education and religion work against man and taught some excellent exercises trying to achieve consciousness. The man died. Everyone saying to do something out of the box will be exterminated. He and Krishnamurti basically said the systems don't help men but just a possibility which is very rare. This thing about Hinduism became -like everything in USA- a sort of Mc Donald consume, put in bags and sell the package of salvation. Even to master physical asanas is extremelly hard and usually western people only care about certain physical benefits. I mean if Rachel Welch preserves her beauty with yoga, women are gonna practice the superficial training just to,look like her and that was never the case in India. It's absurd the saying meditation is setting your mind in blank like watching a white screen in front of a movie theatre screen because the THOUGHTS arise and our mind is always thinking like a monkey jumping from one tree to another, endlessly. It's more OBSERVATON of the thoughts, as if they were clouds passing by and because of the observation there will be a change, the observer gets conscious of what is observed or thought, another perception, this is just a first step. In my experience doing Mind Silva method I saw visions, like Apocalypse much deeper than any stone trip with mushrooms or ayahuasca and I tell you this, I saw a black pit of darkness as if I were in a black hole and the FEAR made me consciously get of of there but closed a door and no key can open that ..... so, just few yoguis can tell about perils or advantages....... in a time where are no masters, what do you do? Christ message was not for the mob which is 90% of mankind, just for some disciples... and the transfiguration happen as a promise of witnessing the inner kingdom of God he did a week earlier.... you don't know anything, I don't know anything and few know something .... May the peace be with you, shalom, salaam.....
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oh PLEASE, Osho was NOT poisoned, but his disciples DID poison (in literal sense) many people...
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It's my understanding he was posioned little by little by means of a dentist. I don't have any reason to doubt this information because it's a fact he was banned in many countries and whomever has read books with his recorded words understands why: because his words are against whatever stablishment WHICH INCLUDES whatever decisions made by his disciples. Anyway, my words are in a context dealing with the attitude of the people whenever there's a thread to their personal believes. In my particular case, I have never said yoga doesn't belong to a system. I agree with you it does and added there are different paths of yoga, etc.
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He was NOT poisoned. It's proven. He had gotten into some chemicals, it's online you can do a research.
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Osho was poisoned little by little just by explaining how society, education and religion work against man and taught some excellent exercises trying to achieve consciousness. The man died. Everyone saying to do something out of the box will be exterminated. He and Krishnamurti basically said the systems don't help men but just a possibility which is very rare. This thing about Hinduism became -like everything in USA- a sort of Mc Donald consume, put in bags and sell the package of salvation. Even to master physical asanas is extremelly hard and usually western people only care about certain physical benefits. I mean if Rachel Welch preserves her beauty with yoga, women are gonna practice the superficial training just to,look like her and that was never the case in India. It's absurd the saying meditation is setting your mind in blank like watching a white screen in front of a movie theatre screen because the THOUGHTS arise and our mind is always thinking like a monkey jumping from one tree to another, endlessly. It's more OBSERVATON of the thoughts, as if they were clouds passing by and because of the observation there will be a change, the observer gets conscious of what is observed or thought, another perception, this is just a first step. In my experience doing Mind Silva method I saw visions, like Apocalypse much deeper than any stone trip with mushrooms or ayahuasca and I tell you this, I saw a black pit of darkness as if I were in a black hole and the FEAR made me consciously get of of there but closed a door and no key can open that ..... so, just few yoguis can tell about perils or advantages....... in a time where are no masters, what do you do? Christ message was not for the mob which is 90% of mankind, just for some disciples... and the transfiguration happen as a promise of witnessing the inner kingdom of God he did a week earlier.... you don't know anything, I don't know anything and few know something .... May the peace be with you, shalom, salaam.....
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oh PLEASE, Osho was NOT poisoned, but his disciples DID poison (in literal sense) many people...
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It's my understanding he was posioned little by little by means of a dentist. I don't have any reason to doubt this information because it's a fact he was banned in many countries and whomever has read books with his recorded words understands why: because his words are against whatever stablishment WHICH INCLUDES whatever decisions made by his disciples. Anyway, my words are in a context dealing with the attitude of the people whenever there's a thread to their personal believes. In my particular case, I have never said yoga doesn't belong to a system. I agree with you it does and added there are different paths of yoga, etc.
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Why the hell would he be poisoned for??? A good philosopher, yes, RIP.

But he was totally against the "family", he was pro drugs, he had many many expensive cars and expensive golden watches,

that sounds like the perfect golden mine for TPTB.


SO why would they poison him??? LOL.


LMAO!
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This sort of reminds me of my thread on crystals and christians:

Thread: Question for Christians--Crystals



What about chakras? Is that just a body exercise or does it create an invitation for entities or anything else I'm not thinking of atm?
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Tell you something. The prophets of the Bible saw visions and as I say, temples and cherubim and seraphim are similar to what you would see in these painting and drawings you see in Hare Krishna's books. Has any Christian here has ever tried to MEDITATE in such visions. Yoga is union and a yoke. Have you ever imagine together the visions of Isaiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, John of Apocalypse, Joel? Forget about Hindu gods, focus on the Man of Light surrounded by something like a COMPLETE rainbow, but emerald GREEN circular hall, the entity itself made with two stones, one white and the other one red, a bearded humanoid and a crystaline DOME like a UFO. Beneath the Being a waterfall of FIRE and wheels within wheels with eyes, beside these huge devices that only look wheels but are not wheels nor behaved like wheels, there are creatures with the face of a lion, a man, an eagle and a bull, having feet of a calf they are more bulls than the rest of animals (for the same reason cow is sacred in India,
Peru and was mummified in Egypt), and beneath them a crystal sea as well and other humanoid dressed in white..... even if you try to see such a vision or the odd scorpion-locust-centaurs with lion teeth...... it would be extremely rare if you ever have a glimpse. If you are gonna tell me THINKING or MEDITATING in these oddities during hours is okey... anyone who chooses the path of just accepting the Bagavad Gita or Mahabharatta could properly say such Christian is a pagan worshipping demons! Yet, in India that wouldn't be the case because they will understand is all part of the same thing! Even Muslim have similar depictions of centaurs like peacocks and humanoids with wings......
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Tell you something. The prophets of the Bible saw visions and as I say, temples and cherubim and seraphim are similar to what you would see in these painting and drawings you see in Hare Krishna's books. Has any Christian here has ever tried to MEDITATE in such visions. Yoga is union and a yoke. Have you ever imagine together the visions of Isaiah, Daniel, Ezekiel, John of Apocalypse, Joel? Forget about Hindu gods, focus on the Man of Light surrounded by something like a COMPLETE rainbow, but emerald GREEN circular hall, the entity itself made with two stones, one white and the other one red, a bearded humanoid and a crystaline DOME like a UFO. Beneath the Being a waterfall of FIRE and wheels within wheels with eyes, beside these huge devices that only look wheels but are not wheels nor behaved like wheels, there are creatures with the face of a lion, a man, an eagle and a bull, having feet of a calf they are more bulls than the rest of animals (for the same reason cow is sacred in India,
Peru and was mummified in Egypt), and beneath them a crystal sea as well and other humanoid dressed in white..... even if you try to see such a vision or the odd scorpion-locust-centaurs with lion teeth...... it would be extremely rare if you ever have a glimpse. If you are gonna tell me THINKING or MEDITATING in these oddities during hours is okey... anyone who chooses the path of just accepting the Bagavad Gita or Mahabharatta could properly say such Christian is a pagan worshipping demons! Yet, in India that wouldn't be the case because they will understand is all part of the same thing! Even Muslim have similar depictions of centaurs like peacocks and humanoids with wings......
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You need writing skills, immediately.
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My friend from Turkey, I have done the research alright and I'm not here to write about him, it was a secondary subject. Yet I invite you to judge by yourself and read his books. The accusers always behave like they did with Christ. Christ said John the Baptist came without eating or drinking and his accusers said he had demons and killed him, certainly since he came eating and drinking unlike his cousin John they would find out something against him as well for whatevef reason. If we use words out of context with evil purpose we can say even Messiah was against "family" because he said ne came to bring division between a father and a son and members of the family, that he came to bring a sword.... or because when someone wanted to bury his very own father Christ "cold as ice" told him not to go because dead ones shall bury their dead ones..... Yes, Osho said some substances could help man in some cases and we can discuss about this til kingdom comes, we can discuss if Moses saw the burning bush because it was hallucinogenic acacia or Fraxinella plant of gas with purple flowers or of it was just a "symbol" of revelation in the tree of our brains.... we can discuss if those Mamre trees where father Abraham saw 3 angels were the same hallucinogenic trees the jewish people used for centuries, we can shit chat if the reason why the father of John saw an angel according to the New Testament was simply because he was standing RIGHT BESIDE the incense which is known to use "qanah" later on translated as cannabis or marijuana... weed..... we can discuss if the chemical molecular symbiosis between these hallucinogenic substances and the brain was done on purpose by Almighty just like a humming bird interacts with flowers or if it was an evil plan sowed and taught just from the offspring of Cain on or by the Watchers who fell to earth.... until then you wouldn't even drink excellent Turkey coffee thinking it was a forbidden drug in Germany in times of witches!

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