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'Roundup' Weed Killer - Glyphosate - now found in people's urine - at high concentrations!

 
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There's no lie these Gaia/sciency worshippers won't tell.
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Get goats. Very effective.
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No, I don't want livestock.


You can rent them. Some people in USA rent them to clear out places where people can't bring in machines to do the work. Cheaper too. As a result, you get poop fertilizers.


I don't want to rent them, I don't have sufficient fences and I don't want to tether them. You can't 'rent' goats where I live, there is no goat rental agency, you either get one and pay for it's medical expenses and one wouldn't be enought. I've known people who've gotten rid of goats, some of them stink and there's other problems with goats too.

More city dweller bullshit, there's a goat rental agency in every rural area, they deliver and pick up, LOL.
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Prove that glycophosphate is dangerous, where is your proof?
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Death by Multiple Poisoning, Glyphosate and Roundup
Scientists pinpoint how very low concentrations of the herbicide and other chemicals in Roundup formulations kill human cells, strengthening the case for phasing them out, and banning all further releases of Roundup-tolerant GM crops

[link to www.i-sis.org.uk]


Also bare in mind that your exposure to toxic chemicals is 24-7 year after year..in your water, in your food, in the air..ect..this dangerous cocktail is why theres such a wide increase in cancers and other illness..
but,of course, when for instance, a company wants to put their product on the market, they will do a research on humans or other for only a relatively short time, and ONLY that one chemical and do not consider the entire spectrum of toxins nor do they consider the continuous exposure in the enviornment, result? false results, claims.
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oh 'scientistics' say so, dats why! What herbicide do you recommend, I'm on 16 acres, but say you had 200 acres, what herbicide do you endorse?
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[link to www.uvm.edu]
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Get goats. Very effective.
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No, I don't want livestock.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18292809


You can rent them. Some people in USA rent them to clear out places where people can't bring in machines to do the work. Cheaper too. As a result, you get poop fertilizers.


I don't want to rent them, I don't have sufficient fences and I don't want to tether them. You can't 'rent' goats where I live, there is no goat rental agency, you either get one and pay for it's medical expenses and one wouldn't be enought. I've known people who've gotten rid of goats, some of them stink and there's other problems with goats too.

More city dweller bullshit, there's a goat rental agency in every rural area, they deliver and pick up, LOL.


lmao

cheers
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Hello...round up is IN the soybean! GMO soybeans!!! Do you realize how much hidden soy ppl consume if they don't eat organic/non GMO food!

Unless it is specified NON-GMO soy...it is! Soybean oil, isolated soy protein, textured soy protein...got it? It's in so many processed foods...even soy baby formula is made from RoundUp Ready GMO Soybeans!!!!
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What ever happened to just pulling out the weeds by the roots?

I dont use any of these products at my home...no way.
 Quoting: RememberThis


Agreed....but, this stuff is sprayed far and wide by the tons of gallons every day on farm crops.

I mean,,,,more than you could ever imagine. I know, my brothers are farmers.
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Yet for $1.15 you can buy 2L of white vinegar, which is safe for humans to consume yet can kill weeds just as effectively as glyphosphate.cool2
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didn't know that, but it makes sense. Thanks for the tip!
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thanks Doorbert

Last Edited by calin on 06/21/2012 09:03 AM
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Solution:

2 gallon pack of distilled vinegar.
2 gallon sprayer

Both can be found at the local big-box.

Spray the weeds on a nice, sunny day and they will not come back.

Really, this will work just as well as Roundup for a fraction of the cost and the environment will benefit.
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Then why isn't it used on a 200 acre farm?
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It must amaze you that farmers could grow a crop prior to herbicides and Roundup resistant GM plants.
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
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Will my water distiller remove this chemical, if present, from my drinking water? I can't get a definate answer. It does seem to be a phosphate related compound, which would mean yes it is removed. Anyone know?
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What ever happened to just pulling out the weeds by the roots?

I dont use any of these products at my home...no way.
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Same here. I am also grateful to live at the top of a hill so all the crap neighbors put on their yards does not run off onto my organic garden. As for contaminated rain & groundwater -- crap!

This shit needs to be illegal & there is absolutely NO reason any of this should be permitted for residential uses. So the yard does not look like a golf course? Would cares! I prefer a healthy family over a wasteful, toxic green lawn!

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According to an article in German in the Ithaca journal, a German university study has found significant concentrations of glyphosate in the urine samples of city dwellers.

The analysis of the urine samples apparently found that all had concentrations of glyphosate at 5 to 20-fold the limit for drinking water.

As well as being used increasingly widely in food production, glyphosate-based weedkillers often also get sprayed onto railway lines, urban pavements and roadsides.


[link to www.ithaka-journal.net]

Glyphosate, the main ingredient of most commercial herbicides.

It poisons not only plants but also animals and humans slowly.

At a German university Urine samples of the urban population were examined for contamination with glyphosate.

All samples showed significant concentrations of the herbicide active ingredient, they were around the 5 to 20 times above the limit of drinking water.


News of this study comes not long after the publication of a study confirming glyphosate was contaminating groundwater.

Last year also saw the publication of two US Geological Survey studies which consistently found glyphosate in streams, rain and even air in agricultural areas of the US.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

Roundup herbicide found in air, rain, and streams

[link to www.gmwatch.eu]


BACKGROUND: Glyphosate [N-(phosphonomethyl)glycine] is a herbicide used widely throughout the world in the production of many crops and is heavily used on soybeans, corn and cotton.

Glyphosate is used in almost all agricultural areas of the United States, and the agricultural use of glyphosate has increased from less than 10 000 Mg in 1992 to more than 80 000 Mg in 2007.

The greatest intensity of glyphosate use is in the midwestern United States, where applications are predominantly to genetically modified corn and soybeans.

[link to www.gmwatch.eu]
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Round up, isn't this that what they are going to do with you gays in the FEMA Camps some time in the future?
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Cool! So I can take a whiz on my neighbor's lawn and burn vulgar symbols into the grass?
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Since we all know whizz kills grass & weeds, why can we not just use a salt water solution on those dandelions? Or the white vinegar another poster suggested? Cheaper, effective & not toxic to our families.
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Prove that glycophosphate is dangerous, where is your proof?
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Guzzle a mug full and let us know. Shill.

Last Edited by Lady Jane Smith on 06/21/2012 09:44 AM
Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
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Solution:

2 gallon pack of distilled vinegar.
2 gallon sprayer

Both can be found at the local big-box.

Spray the weeds on a nice, sunny day and they will not come back.

Really, this will work just as well as Roundup for a fraction of the cost and the environment will benefit.
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Then why isn't it used on a 200 acre farm?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18292809


Because corporate marketers don't get paid for promoting a safer alternative to the product their company makes.
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What ever happened to just pulling out the weeds by the roots?

I dont use any of these products at my home...no way.
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Same here. I am also grateful to live at the top of a hill so all the crap neighbors put on their yards does not run off onto my organic garden. As for contaminated rain & groundwater -- crap!

This shit needs to be illegal & there is absolutely NO reason any of this should be permitted for residential uses. So the yard does not look like a golf course? Would cares! I prefer a healthy family over a wasteful, toxic green lawn!

grumpy2
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+1 hf
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I used this Round Up once and afterwards came in the house and I couldn't remember things. It lasted for about 30 minutes. I couldn't remember phone numbers or account numbers. I'm very careful when I use this product now and I always put on gloves when I use it. I won't hard use it anymore! It was like I had dementia! It was crazy! Weird feeling! I could tell that I should be able to know the numbers but just couldn't remember them at all. I tried to call my husband when I knew it was happening to me, couldn't even remember his phone number.
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Prove that glycophosphate is dangerous, where is your proof?
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If it isn't found in nature at the same levels we are consuming, then it is harmful.

Live a rule by the land, nature is always been the better choice.

People believed infant formula was better for the newborn. Now we learn breastmilk is the best for an infant (obvious).

This is how products are sold. False science says they are safe and just before the product does any substantial damage across a large population, new science will claim it is harmful.

So the corporations dump toxins on us and then just when we had enough, they pull it off the shelves for a new poison to sell to us.

Nature is far better for us.
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Will my water distiller remove this chemical, if present, from my drinking water? I can't get a definate answer. It does seem to be a phosphate related compound, which would mean yes it is removed. Anyone know?
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Is glyphosphate (N-phosphonomethyl glycine) ONLY in the drinking water?
Or is it also present in the grown GeneModified-RoundUp-Ready-Crop that's harvested and put to human comsumption?
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...

More city dweller bullshit, there's a goat rental agency in every rural area, they deliver and pick up, LOL.
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Not in every area...but with a little searching you may be surprised.

[link to www.goatfinder.com]

I know you've mentioned this isn't for you for many reasons.

Try the vinegar and see how it goes.

You'll know whether it'll work for your needs in less than a week.

If it does work, you'll save a chunk of money, which I'm sure is a positive thing.
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Thanks for posting this OP...we need to get the Monsanto word out. Amazing how the FDA will come down on farmers who sell organic food and animal products....but look the other way when we're slowly poisoned and our stomachs explode from GMO's. What's even more shocking is more than 50 countries including Germany, France and Italy have banned or restricted GMO products in their countries while the U.S. doesn't even require GMO labeling! Something very wrong....
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Not just very wrong...WICKED!
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Will my water distiller remove this chemical, if present, from my drinking water? I can't get a definate answer. It does seem to be a phosphate related compound, which would mean yes it is removed. Anyone know?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6524811


Is glyphosphate (N-phosphonomethyl glycine) ONLY in the drinking water?
Or is it also present in the grown GeneModified-RoundUp-Ready-Crop that's harvested and put to human comsumption?
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Both, and in animals that consume the harvested GM crops, thus also in meats you may consume.

So basically it's in:

Air
Water
Crops of all sorts
Animals (from eating the crops)
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Prove that glycophosphate is dangerous, where is your proof?
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If it isn't found in nature at the same levels we are consuming, then it is harmful.

Live a rule by the land, nature is always been the better choice.


People believed infant formula was better for the newborn. Now we learn breastmilk is the best for an infant (obvious).

This is how products are sold. False science says they are safe and just before the product does any substantial damage across a large population, new science will claim it is harmful.

So the corporations dump toxins on us and then just when we had enough, they pull it off the shelves for a new poison to sell to us.

Nature is far better for us.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


+1

hf
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Yet for $1.15 you can buy 2L of white vinegar, which is safe for humans to consume yet can kill weeds just as effectively as glyphosphate.cool2
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carefull....Mosatano Might hear you!
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Prove that glycophosphate is dangerous, where is your proof?
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I'm sure it would make a nice side dressing. Why don't you try it? We'll await the results with interest.
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lame

Proof, or stfu.
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I use it all the time, buy it regularly, it's one of the least toxic herbicides. Jeeeez you'd think it was Agent Orange the way Doorbert carries on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18292809


I use it too.Not much choice otherwise I would be living in a thicket.Probably not a good thing but I doubt its any worse than what we consume every day in food and liquids we drink.
Read a story yesterday about Texas drinking water in some towns so radioactive it makes pipes and plumbing radioactive and even scrap yards wont take the pipes.So my weed killing just goes along with the rest of the doomed world.
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Prove that glycophosphate is dangerous, where is your proof?
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If it isn't found in nature at the same levels we are consuming, then it is harmful.

Live a rule by the land, nature is always been the better choice.

People believed infant formula was better for the newborn. Now we learn breastmilk is the best for an infant (obvious).

This is how products are sold. False science says they are safe and just before the product does any substantial damage across a large population, new science will claim it is harmful.

So the corporations dump toxins on us and then just when we had enough, they pull it off the shelves for a new poison to sell to us.

Nature is far better for us.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


I dont know thats true.Many things are found in nature thats deadly.
Here is a link to the story I mentioned in my previous post.
Texas drinking water makes pipes and plumbing radioactive
[link to www.khou.com]
Now that radiation occurs naturally but it makes people sick.
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Prove that glycophosphate is dangerous, where is your proof?
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If it isn't found in nature at the same levels we are consuming, then it is harmful.

Live a rule by the land, nature is always been the better choice.

People believed infant formula was better for the newborn. Now we learn breastmilk is the best for an infant (obvious).

This is how products are sold. False science says they are safe and just before the product does any substantial damage across a large population, new science will claim it is harmful.

So the corporations dump toxins on us and then just when we had enough, they pull it off the shelves for a new poison to sell to us.

Nature is far better for us.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


I dont know thats true.Many things are found in nature thats deadly.
Here is a link to the story I mentioned in my previous post.
Texas drinking water makes pipes and plumbing radioactive
[link to www.khou.com]
Now that radiation occurs naturally but it makes people sick.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18340630


There is a common sense factor that is "assumed".

Uranium, Plutonium, etc. are found in nature as well as a million other unhealthy items.

I think the point is, use natural items (that are healthy to begin with) and try and minimize the use of man-made chemicals or other man-made substances that take natural items and modifies it.
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Prove that glycophosphate is dangerous, where is your proof?
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If it isn't found in nature at the same levels we are consuming, then it is harmful.

Live a rule by the land, nature is always been the better choice.

People believed infant formula was better for the newborn. Now we learn breastmilk is the best for an infant (obvious).

This is how products are sold. False science says they are safe and just before the product does any substantial damage across a large population, new science will claim it is harmful.

So the corporations dump toxins on us and then just when we had enough, they pull it off the shelves for a new poison to sell to us.

Nature is far better for us.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


I dont know thats true.Many things are found in nature thats deadly.
Here is a link to the story I mentioned in my previous post.
Texas drinking water makes pipes and plumbing radioactive
[link to www.khou.com]
Now that radiation occurs naturally but it makes people sick.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18340630


It is very easy to test whether "radioactivity" is natural or unnatural. Is is isotopes of cesium, iodine, uranium, etc etc contaminating the pipes? Radioactive particles can be identified.

maybe some lab should test it and they could identifiy the origin of the "radioactivity"?

The "they do it so it's ok for me to do it too" type argument is ridiculous.

To say "it's just as bad as something else so therefore it's OK" is an idiotic argument.
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Solution:

2 gallon pack of distilled vinegar.
2 gallon sprayer

Both can be found at the local big-box.

Spray the weeds on a nice, sunny day and they will not come back.

Really, this will work just as well as Roundup for a fraction of the cost and the environment will benefit.
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


Does vinegar kill all vegetation?

Any suggestions for ants?
Who is John Galt?
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Prove that glycophosphate is dangerous, where is your proof?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18292809


If it isn't found in nature at the same levels we are consuming, then it is harmful.

Live a rule by the land, nature is always been the better choice.

People believed infant formula was better for the newborn. Now we learn breastmilk is the best for an infant (obvious).

This is how products are sold. False science says they are safe and just before the product does any substantial damage across a large population, new science will claim it is harmful.

So the corporations dump toxins on us and then just when we had enough, they pull it off the shelves for a new poison to sell to us.

Nature is far better for us.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


I dont know thats true.Many things are found in nature thats deadly.
Here is a link to the story I mentioned in my previous post.
Texas drinking water makes pipes and plumbing radioactive
[link to www.khou.com]
Now that radiation occurs naturally but it makes people sick.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18340630


It is very easy to test whether "radioactivity" is natural or unnatural. Is is isotopes of cesium, iodine, uranium, etc etc contaminating the pipes? Radioactive particles can be identified.

maybe some lab should test it and they could identifiy the origin of the "radioactivity"?

The "they do it so it's ok for me to do it too" type argument is ridiculous.

To say "it's just as bad as something else so therefore it's OK" is an idiotic argument.
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Well okay then offer me a better solution.I live in a wooded area and as I said my yard would a thicket if I didnt use weed control in that area.Yeah I could go out there and spend 15 hours a day pulling weeds and by the time I got to one side the other side would be back again.I have growth way higher than my height and I couldnt live safely in my house for snakes and other critters.While it may not be the best solution its the only one I have at this point.Some of us dont have 1/20th of an acre to take care of.Its a big difference controlling something in a pea sized area compared to a huge area.

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