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Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?

 
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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
USA, unlike germany, have never voted against israel so have no fear of been attacked by the stuxnet virus and therefore no need to get rid of their nuclear energy.
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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
You know, they could have used this trillion dollar stimulus bill to install enough solar power to generate all our needs.

Instead we got lots of overpaid construction workers digging holes and filling them back in, everywhere you go, they are shutting down the roads, and are busy doing nothing.

It's all about short sighted, selfish, hedonistic cliques of capitalists, whose motto is 'Fuck The World'.

There are very few people who love this country anymore.

We get all these political appointees, put in charge of government agencies, instead of visionaries and genuinely talented people. They are basically all just there to look the other way while corporate raiders rape the country.
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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
My Dear Little OP,

Please don't waste your time taking on the Nuclear industry.

We have a team of PR professionals monitoring the web each and every day.

As soon as a "negative" commentary like yours is posted--on virtually any website worldwide--that could harm our image and thereby our future, our highly paid team will respond in force with half-truths, full-on lies, fear tactics, bullying tactics and perception manipulation.

Our propaganda machine will stop any dissension in its tracks--before any kind of grass roots movement can take hold.

Please understand: We will do or say whatever we need to. We will stop at nothing to ensure the use of nuclear power in the future, whether the majority want it or not. You cannot win this battle.

Thanks for understanding.

NRC PR Team
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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
If The TPTB were not all globalist scum. We would be making our own power for a very cheap price.


New Small Solid Oxide Fuel Cell Reaches Record Efficiency

Individual homes and entire neighborhoods could be powered with a new, small-scale solid oxide fuel cell system that achieves up to 57 percent efficiency, significantly higher than the 30 to 50 percent efficiencies previously reported for other solid oxide fuel cell systems of its size, according to a study published in this month's issue of Journal of Power Sources.

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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
Congratulations to GERMANY

Germany sets new solar power record

German solar power plants produced a world record 22 gigawatts of electricity per hour - equal to 20 nuclear power stations at full capacity - through the midday hours on Friday and Saturday, the head of a renewable energy think tank said.

the 22 gigawatts of solar power per hour fed into the national grid on Saturday met nearly 50 percent of the nation's midday electricity needs.

holly crap.... lol



They are doing this in a country in northern europe, where the weather sucks and is cloudy most of the time.

What is out excuse in the USA ?
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Thing is they are taking a big risk here. My electricity bills went up every year since 2008. And so it is all over Germany. Personal I dont care to much about paying a few euros more but for other people here it has a bigger impact.

Anyway in the long run this could turn out to be a great investment.
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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
You know, they could have used this trillion dollar stimulus bill to install enough solar power to generate all our needs.

Instead we got lots of overpaid construction workers digging holes and filling them back in, everywhere you go, they are shutting down the roads, and are busy doing nothing.

It's all about short sighted, selfish, hedonistic cliques of capitalists, whose motto is 'Fuck The World'.

There are very few people who love this country anymore.

We get all these political appointees, put in charge of government agencies, instead of visionaries and genuinely talented people. They are basically all just there to look the other way while corporate raiders rape the country.
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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
My Dear Little OP,

Please don't waste your time taking on the Nuclear industry.

We have a team of PR professionals monitoring the web each and every day.

As soon as a "negative" commentary like yours is posted--on virtually any website worldwide--that could harm our image and thereby our future, our highly paid team will respond in force with half-truths, full-on lies, fear tactics, bullying tactics and perception manipulation.

Our propaganda machine will stop any dissension in its tracks--before any kind of grass roots movement can take hold.

Please understand: We will do or say whatever we need to. We will stop at nothing to ensure the use of nuclear power in the future, whether the majority want it or not. You cannot win this battle.

Thanks for understanding.

NRC PR Team
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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
Congratulations to GERMANY

Germany sets new solar power record

German solar power plants produced a world record 22 gigawatts of electricity per hour - equal to 20 nuclear power stations at full capacity - through the midday hours on Friday and Saturday, the head of a renewable energy think tank said.

the 22 gigawatts of solar power per hour fed into the national grid on Saturday met nearly 50 percent of the nation's midday electricity needs.

holly crap.... lol



They are doing this in a country in northern europe, where the weather sucks and is cloudy most of the time.

What is out excuse in the USA ?
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Thing is they are taking a big risk here. My electricity bills went up every year since 2008. And so it is all over Germany. Personal I dont care to much about paying a few euros more but for other people here it has a bigger impact.

Anyway in the long run this could turn out to be a great investment.
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Thank you for your post. It is good to hear from someone that lives in Germany the Pros and Cons.

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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
We are waiting for hell to freeze over.

I don't believe the United States will ever follow suit.
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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
Congratulations to GERMANY

Germany sets new solar power record

German solar power plants produced a world record 22 gigawatts of electricity per hour - equal to 20 nuclear power stations at full capacity - through the midday hours on Friday and Saturday, the head of a renewable energy think tank said.

the 22 gigawatts of solar power per hour fed into the national grid on Saturday met nearly 50 percent of the nation's midday electricity needs.

holly crap.... lol



They are doing this in a country in northern europe, where the weather sucks and is cloudy most of the time.

What is out excuse in the USA ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17217094



Thing is they are taking a big risk here. My electricity bills went up every year since 2008. And so it is all over Germany. Personal I dont care to much about paying a few euros more but for other people here it has a bigger impact.

Anyway in the long run this could turn out to be a great investment.
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Hi Germany,

Don't think for a second that electricity bills haven't gone up in the US every year since 2008 as well.

The only reason people aren't screaming about it is that we had no winter this year. When summer gets fully kicked in, wait and see how people respond when they see what using their AC has done to their electric bills!
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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
Think someone is telling a fairy story or half truths, eithe the OP or the source - which what btw? There's no way they could have brought online to power half Germany, with the industry it has. Last I read there was frantic questions about how they would cover the short full of nuclear, now theykve resolved and built in a couple months??? And where they suddenly find tech to store it for overnight use?
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storage problem not solved yet, work in progress - DC to H2 and pump storage hydro power stations
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unlike as in the US it's geographically impossible to fill demand with solar power over here.

therefore wind parks and especially off shore wind parks plus HV power-lines being build. as well as additional natural gas and coal back up power plants.

longterm goal - HV/DC power-lines to solar power plants in the very south of Europe.
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There are no concrete plans being implemented yet, isnt that one of the reasons Norbert Röttgen got replaced - Merkel said Peter Altmaier would be better to get the job done.

And this from May 27th doesn´t give cause to believe anything is going to happen anytime soon - also because there will be tons of protest against any new power lines.

[link to translate.google.de]

"In the coalition government's doubts grow at a rapid implementation of the energy transition."
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yeah.. and we are paying for it!!! The costs for normal electricity today are horrendous.

If you want that "energy transition", then start with your wikipedia-article...

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Thought it was a good website for everybody to keep track of what's going on in Germany over energy policies.
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One little accident in Japan and everyone wants to run away from nuke plants. You also want us to follow the lead of Germany? Is this because they have had such great ideas in the past as well?
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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
The funny thing about nuclear is that it is not even a partisan issue... NO ONE wants it... yet it remains... kinda like those big bankers... WTF.

Oh and for the guy who said wind is so expensive, you know it is actually cheaper per Kilowatt hour than nuclear, right?
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The funny thing about nuclear is that it is not even a partisan issue... NO ONE wants it... yet it remains... kinda like those big bankers... WTF.

Oh and for the guy who said wind is so expensive, you know it is actually cheaper per Kilowatt hour than nuclear, right?
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You are so clueless...
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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
The funny thing about nuclear is that it is not even a partisan issue... NO ONE wants it... yet it remains... kinda like those big bankers... WTF.

Oh and for the guy who said wind is so expensive, you know it is actually cheaper per Kilowatt hour than nuclear, right?
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You are so clueless...
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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
One little accident in Japan and everyone wants to run away from nuke plants. You also want us to follow the lead of Germany? Is this because they have had such great ideas in the past as well?
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"One Little Incident?" I wish you lived there. I wonder if you'd be stupid enough to say that if you lived 3 miles away??? Would ya?
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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
Germany consumes 2.5 million barrels of oil a day and imports 95% of it.

They consume 99.5 Billion cubic meters of natural gas per year and import 90%

"The seven oldest reactors were permanently closed after the Fukushima accident"

"The main source of electricity still remains coal. The recent plan to build 26 new coal plants is controversial in light of Germany's commitment to curbing emissions. Lignite is extracted in the extreme western and eastern parts of the country, mainly in Nordrhein-Westfalen, Sachsen and Brandenburg. Considerable amounts are burned in coal plants near to the mining areas, to produce electricity. Transporting lignite over far distances is not economically feasible, therefore the plants are located practically next to the extraction sites. Bituminous coal is mined in Nordrhein-Westfalen and Saarland. Most power plants burning bituminous coal operate on imported material, therefore the plants are located not only near to the mining sites, but throughout the country. Germany is the world’s largest operators of non-hydro renewables capacity in the world, including the world’s second largest operator of wind generation."

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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
The funny thing about nuclear is that it is not even a partisan issue... NO ONE wants it... yet it remains... kinda like those big bankers... WTF.

Oh and for the guy who said wind is so expensive, you know it is actually cheaper per Kilowatt hour than nuclear, right?
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You are so clueless...
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Good come back. You must be a real genius.
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Germany is turning to coal for its power big style.
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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
One little accident in Japan and everyone wants to run away from nuke plants. You also want us to follow the lead of Germany? Is this because they have had such great ideas in the past as well?
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i see what you did there...

but to give you a reminder of some good ideas.

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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
One little accident in Japan and everyone wants to run away from nuke plants. You also want us to follow the lead of Germany? Is this because they have had such great ideas in the past as well?
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It's a bit more complex than that.

Common sense tells us that nuclear energy is dangerous.

You don't understand that? You haven't seen examples of how volatile it is? Fuku wasn't enough for you? What about Chernobyl? SL-1? Three mile island? What about Bohunice Nuclear Power Plant in Slovakia? They decided to decommission it in 1979, it will take until 2033 to finish it off. They had 30 shutdowns there. That's not dangerous? The Kyshtym disaster in the Soviet Union released 80 tons of highly radioactive material into the environment, they still don't know what impact it's had on the people in the area. You may want to play fast and loose with your life and your childrens, the rest of us don't.

Australia has no nuclear reactors, they seem to be doing fine. Why do you have such a boner for nuclear energy?
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Sorry but the shareholders in fossil fuel interests take priority.
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Not for long.
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Everyone is pissed so its time to move on to another monopoly.
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Why is this shit pinned?
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Been saying it for years but the NWO wants to down size 'American Industial Pre-eminence' which means we must struggle with an out moded system of a corrupt government let industial polluted energy systems (ie. nuclear). Also their depopulation agenda is served by such means as 'Cancer Allies' found in LS, NY and CA, along with the their suppression of legititmate cancer cures!
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That is a small percent of what utility companies have got away with along the lines of contaminating and sickening people, Nuclear is not safe, i'm not condoning it's use, but people have been greatly effected by utility companies practices at their non-nuclear facilities in substantially higher numbers than say three mile island, or turkey point, or whatever. I'm sure you've seen the Movie Erin Brokovich, well, that shit happens all over California with a certain power provider near Fresno.
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Germany was smart and don't create power and deliver it consumers using large-scale power plants

Instead a lot of the end consumers create power and buy any shortfall from the grid or sell excess to it. While we can do that here it is a novelty while the Krauts consider it the norm
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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
Im more curious about the long term effects.

When in an ice age and having the white snow reflecting the light the planet wont hold enough heat.

IM more curious to know hte long term effects of having so many square miles of glass reflecting sunlight off the surface.

It may be negligible now but i assure you if the entire planet moved to solar, reflecting that much sunlight will have a negative effect on the planet.

Mofos gotta think. All yall in here think yoru "awake" then just follow the new sheep shit thinking it is the way. Solar is not the answer to anything.

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There is a law in germany, when you build a new house, it must be a lowenergy house, means good isolation. Also every house owner gets money to build solar panels and photovoltaic panels.

Germany knows that oil and gas will run out sooner or later, so we need a plan b. We work on that sine 15 years.

New plan is to get about 2 mio Electro cars on the road till 2020. BMW, Volkswagen and Mercedes Benz are involved in the plan and will bring out new electro cars in the comin 2 years.

So you can drive your car with solar energy / Biomass / waterpower and so on in the future. No more gas station needed, for house owner.




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fuck you dumb people never think for you own do you. Follow follow follow. Again solar has negatives attached to it as well but sheeple follow so quickly
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Germany to Make History With Alternative Energy


Thom Hartmann Germany creates 300,000 jobs in 10 years with solar & renewable energy


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Why is Germany thriving while America flounders?

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