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You know, they could have used this trillion dollar stimulus bill to install enough solar power to generate all our needs.

Instead we got lots of overpaid construction workers digging holes and filling them back in, everywhere you go, they are shutting down the roads, and are busy doing nothing.

It's all about short sighted, selfish, hedonistic cliques of capitalists, whose motto is 'Fuck The World'.

There are very few people who love this country anymore.

We get all these political appointees, put in charge of government agencies, instead of visionaries and genuinely talented people. They are basically all just there to look the other way while corporate raiders rape the country.
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Imagine trillion dollars channeled into solar power.
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You know, they could have used this trillion dollar stimulus bill to install enough solar power to generate all our needs.

Instead we got lots of overpaid construction workers digging holes and filling them back in, everywhere you go, they are shutting down the roads, and are busy doing nothing.

It's all about short sighted, selfish, hedonistic cliques of capitalists, whose motto is 'Fuck The World'.

There are very few people who love this country anymore.

We get all these political appointees, put in charge of government agencies, instead of visionaries and genuinely talented people. They are basically all just there to look the other way while corporate raiders rape the country.
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Imagine trillion dollars channeled into solar power.
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You got it!

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You are all morons that have no clue...

All that you can imagine is nice...But because you all are oblivious morons that have zero idea how the Universe functions.

Basically all that you imagine blows up in your stupid faces in the end.
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You are all morons that have no clue...

All that you can imagine is nice...But because you all are oblivious morons that have zero idea how the Universe functions.

Basically all that you imagine blows up in your stupid faces in the end.
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Yup. The day earth becomes 100% solar power? The beginning of a new ice age because of all the glass reflecting sunlight. To power a single home takes about a football field worth of glass.

Not to mention the likely MILLIONS of tons of batteries that would be required.


Yea not only is solar not the answer its just plain moranic.

The only way solar is feasible?

The PV cell would have to be replaced with something strong. not sure what but not glass. Then it would have to be in space and tethered to the ground.

Then the cells could receive more powerful sunlight not dimmed by the atmosphere, sunlight 24/7(no batteries required, you guys seem to forget about this thing called night time), and you wont have all the glass reflecting off the surface to effect the planets climate.



And this is just a stoner giving it a lil thought. You fools a so retarded. And they have you so fooled into thinking your smart and proactive when all your doing is confirming that we will fall for it again.


Oh and i totally forgot the vulnerability. Its glass people. Glass breaks. Not to mention the maintenance. Those panels? They get dirty? They take up less power. So they must be cleaned constantly. And theres ALOT of them. If theres a storm and they break? You lose power. A hurricane? entire areas would lose power. Not like now where its back on in a week. Like your out of power for weeks untill you get new panels.

But dont worry. If you only have to replace just the panels and your battery bank and other infrastructure remains in tact? yay its only gonna be about 100k for just the panels.

Oh and the batteries. I dont know for sure but id expect they are also very expensive, and probably couldnt lsat more than 10 years before theyd have to be replaced.

Solar would create a great volume of battery waste. Enough that may even rival the nuclear waste its replacing.

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Don't be discouraged by the naysayers. It will be, sooner than they think, and it will be successful.

Think of it in the sense that it has already happened, because it has.

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The funny thing about nuclear is that it is not even a partisan issue... NO ONE wants it... yet it remains... kinda like those big bankers... WTF.

Oh and for the guy who said wind is so expensive, you know it is actually cheaper per Kilowatt hour than nuclear, right?
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You are so clueless...
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Good come back. You must be a real genius.
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That enough for you, dumbass?
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Don't be discouraged by the naysayers. It will be, sooner than they think, and it will be successful.

Think of it in the sense that it has already happened, because it has.

hf
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You're living in a fantasy world...
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Germany to Make History With Alternative Energy


Thom Hartmann Germany creates 300,000 jobs in 10 years with solar & renewable energy


Can the US learn from Germany?


With Europe near collapse - why Germany is doing just fine?


Why is Germany thriving while America flounders?

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Yeah right...

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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
Don't be discouraged by the naysayers. It will be, sooner than they think, and it will be successful.

Think of it in the sense that it has already happened, because it has.

hf
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You're living in a fantasy world...
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And you're apparently working in a nuclear plant...
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Don't be discouraged by the naysayers. It will be, sooner than they think, and it will be successful.

Think of it in the sense that it has already happened, because it has.

hf
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You're living in a fantasy world...
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Everyone is. thumbs

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Off the scale BS.
Only 3% of electricity is solar in Germany, and it's intermittent. You cannot run industry on PV. You cannot even produce PV with energy from PV.
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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
None of it in the long run will mean shit in this land mass until they can get rid of the appropriate number of humans from this country. Not much use when the plans are to apparently eliminate 85% of the human life living here.

Check-out the actions of all the other psycopaths in the last two centuries to note the lack of vigor in positve projects. Or maybe this is the new type of humor, we are unaware yet! But it must be coming as smart nations rid themselves of future atomic death.
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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
Renewable energy? lmao
You realize all the pollution caused to make solar panels batteries inverters wind turbines right?
It causes more pollution to make the crap than any pollution savings in the life of running it.
Remember these things do not last for 50 years they have a life span and then they have to be replaced.
Clean coal is far more efficient and causes less pollution but the Marxist extremists don't get rich from it.
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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
One little accident in Japan and everyone wants to run away from nuke plants. You also want us to follow the lead of Germany? Is this because they have had such great ideas in the past as well?
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Renewable energy? lmao
You realize all the pollution caused to make solar panels batteries inverters wind turbines right?
It causes more pollution to make the crap than any pollution savings in the life of running it.
Remember these things do not last for 50 years they have a life span and then they have to be replaced.
Clean coal is far more efficient and causes less pollution but the Marxist extremists don't get rich from it.
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You make a good point about the amount of pollution and toxicity that is left from rotting solar panels.

i do not agree with your formula, however this is something that needs to be addressed in R&D, finding recyclable materials and longer life spans for solar panels.
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Off the scale BS.
Only 3% of electricity is solar in Germany, and it's intermittent. You cannot run industry on PV. You cannot even produce PV with energy from PV.
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The fact of the matter is this, Germany was able to funnel in 22 gigawatts of energy with their NEW Solar and Wind Energy Setup. Can you read English donkey brain addlepate?

Keep sucking the dingle berries off your TEPKO masters bunghole!
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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
You are all morons that have no clue...

All that you can imagine is nice...But because you all are oblivious morons that have zero idea how the Universe functions.

Basically all that you imagine blows up in your stupid faces in the end.
 Quoting: Hypertiger


Yup. The day earth becomes 100% solar power? The beginning of a new ice age because of all the glass reflecting sunlight. To power a single home takes about a football field worth of glass.

Not to mention the likely MILLIONS of tons of batteries that would be required.


Yea not only is solar not the answer its just plain moranic.

The only way solar is feasible?

The PV cell would have to be replaced with something strong. not sure what but not glass. Then it would have to be in space and tethered to the ground.

Then the cells could receive more powerful sunlight not dimmed by the atmosphere, sunlight 24/7(no batteries required, you guys seem to forget about this thing called night time), and you wont have all the glass reflecting off the surface to effect the planets climate.



And this is just a stoner giving it a lil thought. You fools a so retarded. And they have you so fooled into thinking your smart and proactive when all your doing is confirming that we will fall for it again.


Oh and i totally forgot the vulnerability. Its glass people. Glass breaks. Not to mention the maintenance. Those panels? They get dirty? They take up less power. So they must be cleaned constantly. And theres ALOT of them. If theres a storm and they break? You lose power. A hurricane? entire areas would lose power. Not like now where its back on in a week. Like your out of power for weeks untill you get new panels.

But dont worry. If you only have to replace just the panels and your battery bank and other infrastructure remains in tact? yay its only gonna be about 100k for just the panels.

Oh and the batteries. I dont know for sure but id expect they are also very expensive, and probably couldnt lsat more than 10 years before theyd have to be replaced.

Solar would create a great volume of battery waste. Enough that may even rival the nuclear waste its replacing.
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Stogie, your missing the point! And you make some interesting ones yourself.

peace

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Re: Germany got rid of their Nuclear Energy and can now run completely off Renewable Energy! What are we waiting for?
Not enough will power to read through the whole thread ...

The share of electricity produced from renewable energy in Germany has increased from 6.3 percent of the national total in 2000 to over 20 percent in the first half of 2011. Renewable energy share of gross electricity consumption rose from 10 % in 2005 to 20 % in 2011. Main renewable electricity sources were in 2011: Wind energy 38.1 %, biomass 26.2 %, hydropower 16.0 %, photovoltaics (solar) 15.6 % and biowaste 4.1 %. From wikipedia, poor source that it is.

20% is a far cry from 'completely'


From the godfather of global warming ...

(3) Lovelock mocks the idea modern economies can be powered by wind turbines.

As he puts it, “so-called ‘sustainable development’ … is meaningless drivel … We rushed into renewable energy without any thought. The schemes are largely hopelessly inefficient and unpleasant. I personally can’t stand windmills at any price.” From [link to www.torontosun.com]
Warning: JustSomeGuy_42 is a publicly confessed unvaxxed neophiliac .

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You are all morons that have no clue...

All that you can imagine is nice...But because you all are oblivious morons that have zero idea how the Universe functions.

Basically all that you imagine blows up in your stupid faces in the end.
 Quoting: Hypertiger


Yup. The day earth becomes 100% solar power? The beginning of a new ice age because of all the glass reflecting sunlight. To power a single home takes about a football field worth of glass.

Not to mention the likely MILLIONS of tons of batteries that would be required.


Yea not only is solar not the answer its just plain moranic.

The only way solar is feasible?

The PV cell would have to be replaced with something strong. not sure what but not glass. Then it would have to be in space and tethered to the ground.

Then the cells could receive more powerful sunlight not dimmed by the atmosphere, sunlight 24/7(no batteries required, you guys seem to forget about this thing called night time), and you wont have all the glass reflecting off the surface to effect the planets climate.



And this is just a stoner giving it a lil thought. You fools a so retarded. And they have you so fooled into thinking your smart and proactive when all your doing is confirming that we will fall for it again.


Oh and i totally forgot the vulnerability. Its glass people. Glass breaks. Not to mention the maintenance. Those panels? They get dirty? They take up less power. So they must be cleaned constantly. And theres ALOT of them. If theres a storm and they break? You lose power. A hurricane? entire areas would lose power. Not like now where its back on in a week. Like your out of power for weeks untill you get new panels.

But dont worry. If you only have to replace just the panels and your battery bank and other infrastructure remains in tact? yay its only gonna be about 100k for just the panels.

Oh and the batteries. I dont know for sure but id expect they are also very expensive, and probably couldnt lsat more than 10 years before theyd have to be replaced.

Solar would create a great volume of battery waste. Enough that may even rival the nuclear waste its replacing.
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Stogie, your missing the point! And you make some interesting ones yourself.

peace
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Oh and i was only talking about solar. So lets talk about wind.

Now take all the glass reflecting sun light. now you also have wind turbines slowing the wind speedon the planet as well.

Add that up? They are gonna use the "green" movement to make climate change even worst. Not better.

The planets wind is as it should be.

The planet reflects sunlight already, as it should.

If we start to interfere with this, we dont have enough foresight to consider the effects.

As i said the only real feasible solution is to have some sorta titanium type of solar panels in space, tethered to the ground. This is the only way solar is feasible.

But of course i think that perpetual energy is available as well. IMO well be able to get all our power from magnetics in the future.

But all these alternative means we see now? Garbage. And not even close to what BILLIONS of dollars of research would come up with. Ergo, its a goddamn lie. You think this is all theyve come up with? Solar,wind,tidal? REally?

Now lets talk about geothermal. OMG thats the worst one. Taking heat directly out of the planet. Talk about stupid. I couldnt even consider the consequences. But what do i know? The heat in the planet might be alot, but it is not infinite. And not renewable. At all.


All the alternative energy we've been shown is BOGUS. aLL OF IT. solar,wind,tidal,geothermal. GARBAGE GARBAGE GARBAGE.

gIVE ME another alternative means, and with a lil common sense and logic ill tell you why its only a short term thing and long term would have devastating effects.

How do i know i can? Cause theo nly means "they" come up with will all have some sorta devastating effects if you can just see farther than a couple years.




And no i got the point. Point is that people, instinctually, do not want to waste. Weve been coaxed into wasting. And now given false hope to ring with our intuition. Your intuition does not want to waste. So they get you to waste, then give you something that will waste more in hte long run and tell you "it stops waste." Youll dive right in. This is how they get everyone to contradict ourselves. You think your doing good, but again in the long run all the alternative energy means weve been presented are bogus.

And you know that he who controls "ALL SPARK" will control EVERYTHING. The new age wont be about controlling money, it will be about controlling energy. And they kill people who come up with energy that isnt controllable. You know this. But flail cause you see no other hope. But no, jus tcause you dont see the end doesnt mean you should concede and say "well we gotta do something." That sorta jumping in before looking attitude is what has landed us where we are now.

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Haha you must be a complete dumbass no offense... A nation like Germany has not gone on all solar energy. Where ever you got that its not true, Germany won't stop till 2022 so get your facts straight you sad fool... People need to look up more facts behind stuff before they post! Listen, Solar power is good and I agree it is helpful but in the future the sun does not have enough solar flares to provide the world with energy. Many places like the tropics have intense rainstorms for good parts of the month some almost 6 days a week at off and on times. Solar energy would be able to produce in such areas, yes they will have good days but most are random. Nuclear energy is a long lasting source and it doesn't kill everything around. If you want to know the real facts of nuclear energy and not some smock with the idea that she knows best. Hit me up on the post and ill provide you with a base of 5 things that Solar, Hydro, Wind Etc. Can't do compared to nuclear... Really, Germany needed the nuclear for a long time due to its intense amount of population and factories. Take into consideration of why they switched. Look more into it yourselves you'll feel smarter! Just because a half-wit thinks that Germany is the savior just watch what happened when they do switch fully... Solar energy cannot full power a place for about 10-20 years to its maximum effect, during that time Nuclear Energy will be the thing providing the energy, so go take your environment shit and stuff it. like I said want more then post me back.
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Germany is now burning more and more COAL to make electricity. This is the result of FAILED "green energy" policies.

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