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Ten Of The Best And Worst People Ever

 
TruthTeller
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Ten Of The Best And Worst People Ever
The Scales of Good and Evil
Cliff Pickover
Below is a list of the "Top Ten" evil people of all time followed by a list of the "Top Ten" good people of all time -- sorted in order of evilness and goodness. Please add your votes. Who would you like to see added to the list? What alterations would you make to the list or the ordering? Do the scales of good and evil balance? If I may have permission to quote you in a manuscript, please give permission in your note to me.

Why is it easier to think of evil examples than good ones? Is it much easier to do something big and bad than it is to do something big and good?

Developing this list was not an easy task due to the complexity of human personalities and the fact that goodness and evilness depend on the perspective of the time. (For example, perhaps many Americans consider dropping the bomb on Hiroshima "good" whereas many Japanese consider it "evil.") On the evilness scale, I gave additional weight to those people who actually enjoyed and personally participated in the utter horror they produced. When compiling the good list, I also considered the number of people killed by the followers of the "good" person during the person's life time.

[link to sprott.physics.wisc.edu]

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Six Fingers

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Some of these became role models for literature. "Vlad" the impaler was the model for Bram Stoker's Dracula.

What future lit will be based on the other chars?

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I better lead the top worst list !
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True, six-fingers
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Abraham Lincoln had very little interest in freeing the slaves and should not be included on your 'best' list
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I vote Hermes Trismegistus for #10!!
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"Abraham Lincoln had very little interest in freeing the slaves and should not be included on your 'best' list"

17960,first of all I didn't make the list;Clifford Picker did. Secondly,I agree with you.Lincoln's main concern was saving the Union,not freeing the slaves.
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Now that's some historical revisionism. Funny how if it shows up in an internet pamphlet it ends up becoming conventional wisdom. Do you people have a brain in your fukcing heads.
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I'm a Bahai, I really like the fact that you put Baha'u'llah up the for top 2 :)
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Do you have a top 10 best/worst for non religious or politcal people?
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Jesus Christ number 4???!!! Are you kidding, Jesus was the greatest man to ever live and he is the reason why we are all here today. This list a disrace.
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500 years from now the current Dalai Lama will be a mere footnote in history.

However, Jesus Christ will continue to be an abiding fascination and lightning rod of controversy and inspiration
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Abraham Lincoln had very little interest in freeing the slaves and should not be included on your 'best' list
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17960


people who say this always forget one thing--

HE FREED THE FUCKING SLAVES!!!

LOL!

Other than that yeah... sure... he had "little interest"...
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It's true. Abraham Lincoln was concerned about the civil war in this order: the split between the North and the South, the decerease in profit from the southern agriculture, and then the slaves, last of all. He was a good man, but he shouldn't be on the list.
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Note that "zygotic personhood" (the idea that a fertilized egg is a person) is a recent concept. For example, before 1869, the Catholic church believed that the embryo was not a person until it was 40 days old. (Aristotle agreed with this 40-day threshold.) Thus, the church did not believe a human had a soul until day 40. Pope Innocent III in 1211 determined that the time of ensoulment was anywhere from 12 to 16 weeks.
 Quoting: TruthTeller


Hmmm... That's around that time that the odds of miscarriage in a pregnancy drop to less than 5%. Never knew about that 40-day threshold before - very interesting.

I don't think Mother Teresa should be on there - especially after reading Christopher Hitchens' "Missionary Position"

So who should be in her place?

Smedley Butler. He exposed an attempted Fascist coup on the White House and later penned the booklet "War is a Racket".

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Or

Norman Borlaug

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Credited with saving more lives than any other who ever lived.

Last Edited by Jessica6 on 04/23/2010 09:41 PM
The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - HL Mencken
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Oh, good grief. How can you POSSIBLY leave Nikola Tesla off the good guy list?
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Mother Teresa was a fraud. She had millions stashed in swiss banks, while kids starved to death. She was an attention seeking cow who loved rubbing shoulders with world leaders.

She should be amoungst the worst.
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I think Ungern von Sternberg deserves a dishonourable mention on the evil list.

[link to militaryhistory.suite101.com]

Oh, good grief. How can you POSSIBLY leave Nikola Tesla off the good guy list?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 787970

He might have been a supergenius, but few people actually liked him.
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ginger
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What is wrong with people. God is number 1. Oskar Schindler needs to be listed.
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Are you sure Genghis Khan did all of that list your resorces.
Well it sounds bad but are you absolutly sure he set those animals on fire and that how he burn't the city down?
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"Lincoln said during the Civil War that he had always seen slavery as unjust. He said he couldn't remember when he didn't think that way — and there's no reason to doubt the accuracy or sincerity of that statement," explains historian Eric Foner. "

In the Peoria speech, Lincoln said that slavery was wrong, Foner says, and then admitted that he didn't know what should be done about it, even contemplating "free[ing] all the slaves, and send[ing] them to Liberia — to their own native land."

"Lincoln is thinking through his own position on slavery," says Foner. "[This speech] really epitomizes his views into the Civil War. Slavery ought to be abolished — but he doesn't really know how to do it.

Like Henry Clay, Lincoln also supported repealing slavery gradually — and possibly compensating slave owners for their losses after slaves were freed."

[link to www.npr.org]



"I add a word which was not in the verbal conversation. In telling this tale I attempt no compliment to my own sagacity. I claim not to have controlled events, but confess plainly that events have controlled me. Now, at the end of three years struggle the nation's condition is not what either party, or any man devised, or expected. God alone can claim it. Whither it is tending seems plain. If God now wills the removal of a great wrong, and wills also that we of the North as well as you of the South, shall pay fairly for our complicity in that wrong, impartial history will find therein new cause to attest and revere the justice and goodness of God. Yours truly,
A. Lincoln"

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Oh, good grief. How can you POSSIBLY leave Nikola Tesla off the good guy list?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 787970


+1!
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how could the MAN who divided time (BC and AD) be on number four? What criteria was used to rate them, i wonder!!
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What is wrong with people. God is number 1. Oskar Schindler needs to be listed.
 Quoting: ginger 1142821

Raoul Wallenberg was a Swedish diplomat in Nazi occupied Hungary who saved an estimated 100,000 jewish people from the Holocaust, largely through bluffs and empty threats:

[link to www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org]

Truly an amazing man.
Her lips were red, her looks were free,
Her locks were yellow as gold:
Her skin was as white as leprosy,
The Night-Mare LIFE-IN-DEATH was she,
Who thicks man's blood with cold.
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joseph smith should be up there and Christ should be #1
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Uve added bahaaullah and didnt add muhammad ibn abdullah !
U should read more about muhammad (peace be upon him) and know the true message of Islam. If you did so, you'll know he is the best human being ever lived.
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What is wrong with people. God is number 1. Oskar Schindler needs to be listed.
 Quoting: ginger 1142821


God is no a person, asswrinkle.

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