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MONSTER User ID: 2122560 United States 06/24/2012 01:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN. I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT. HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15577724 United States 06/24/2012 01:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know if this is conditioning. When I was a kid we used to get free lunches at the park during summer. I thought it was great to play at the park and get a free lunch. My parents were never there, it was just me and my siblings. I remember being a kid and thinking how cool it was that I got milk and a small thing of orange juice. As a kid I didn't think about how nice it was that the govt was taking care of me. It's just not a thought a kid has. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3461001 That's true, but I think the issue here is "conditioning". And you're right, little kids don't give much thought to who is feeding them when they sit down to a nice lunch. But at what age do you stop "being a kid" and just make the assumption that some magical "Someone" is going to feed you, clothe you, etc. because that's the way it's always been? Isn't that the general attitude we've seen with the OWSers? Or the interviews with people who were standing in line for "free money"? "Where does the money come from?" "Obama!" "Where does HE get the money?" "I don't know, from his stash!" Eggcellent, you know the rules. Don't ever go full retard!!! what gives? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5382718 United States 06/24/2012 01:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is scary! So is the Little train they have going around the park for the kids to ride, it is all just conditioning them for the trains to the workcamps. They have them everywhere those things, I've seen them in several states. Yes, I am typing this as someone who is looking at life through a dirty lens. Maybe The Dark is from your eyes.... |
MONSTER User ID: 2122560 United States 06/24/2012 01:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is scary! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5382718 So is the Little train they have going around the park for the kids to ride, it is all just conditioning them for the trains to the workcamps. They have them everywhere those things, I've seen them in several states. Yes, I am typing this as someone who is looking at life through a dirty lens. Maybe The Dark is from your eyes.... Has the world gone mad or is it me? Kids train ride toy= concentration camp KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN. I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT. HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP |
Observer User ID: 12411641 United States 06/24/2012 02:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's just a continuation of the school lunch program over the summer. For some kids, school lunch is the only meal they get all day. Quoting: Earth Daughter And it should be just for the kids. It's not their fault they were born to lazy ass parents who won't even slap together a peanut butter sandwich for their kid. Actually, the free lunch program is part of the "free and reduced" lunch program. It's not based on laziness factor but overall household income. Ie. a family of 4 that is surviving on an income less than $30k for free lunches, $30k- $42k for reduced (reduction is regressive as income increases). In my school district, lunch costs $117 a month for my two children. It's actually more than my electricity bill--go figure. Another thing to consider--it's an employers' market. Nearly every professional that I have known who has been laid off over the past 4 years has ended up working elsewhere for $10-$20k less per year. An entry level accounting position in my city makes just over $30k a year. That would be for a CPA with 1-3 years accounting experience and a 4 year degree. Now is it really laziness or is it that employers know that they can get employees really cheap right now because of competition for jobs? I'd say the latter of the two and at least I'm backing up my allegation with actual numbers instead of politically regurgitated rhetoric. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3461001 United States 06/24/2012 02:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's just a continuation of the school lunch program over the summer. For some kids, school lunch is the only meal they get all day. Quoting: Earth Daughter And it should be just for the kids. It's not their fault they were born to lazy ass parents who won't even slap together a peanut butter sandwich for their kid. Actually, the free lunch program is part of the "free and reduced" lunch program. It's not based on laziness factor but overall household income. Ie. a family of 4 that is surviving on an income less than $30k for free lunches, $30k- $42k for reduced (reduction is regressive as income increases). In my school district, lunch costs $117 a month for my two children. It's actually more than my electricity bill--go figure. Another thing to consider--it's an employers' market. Nearly every professional that I have known who has been laid off over the past 4 years has ended up working elsewhere for $10-$20k less per year. An entry level accounting position in my city makes just over $30k a year. That would be for a CPA with 1-3 years accounting experience and a 4 year degree. Now is it really laziness or is it that employers know that they can get employees really cheap right now because of competition for jobs? I'd say the latter of the two and at least I'm backing up my allegation with actual numbers instead of politically regurgitated rhetoric. A lot of jobs are also temporary assignmenets, 3 months, sometims less. I don't want to take a temp job as a first choice because I would end of having to look for work again after the contract ends. Not to change the subject. I just wanted to say that I understand how hard the economy has been since getting laid off from my job of 5 years. Back on subject, going to elementary school we didn't qualify for free food. We did how ever get to work in the cafeteria once a month for a couple days and I remember being so excited to do it. We got extra lunch and dessert on Wednesdays. Now, did I think about child labor laws? No, I was having a blast and I got a treat. Lol. |
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Observer User ID: 12411641 United States 06/24/2012 02:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's just a continuation of the school lunch program over the summer. For some kids, school lunch is the only meal they get all day. Quoting: Earth Daughter And it should be just for the kids. It's not their fault they were born to lazy ass parents who won't even slap together a peanut butter sandwich for their kid. Actually, the free lunch program is part of the "free and reduced" lunch program. It's not based on laziness factor but overall household income. Ie. a family of 4 that is surviving on an income less than $30k for free lunches, $30k- $42k for reduced (reduction is regressive as income increases). In my school district, lunch costs $117 a month for my two children. It's actually more than my electricity bill--go figure. Another thing to consider--it's an employers' market. Nearly every professional that I have known who has been laid off over the past 4 years has ended up working elsewhere for $10-$20k less per year. An entry level accounting position in my city makes just over $30k a year. That would be for a CPA with 1-3 years accounting experience and a 4 year degree. Now is it really laziness or is it that employers know that they can get employees really cheap right now because of competition for jobs? I'd say the latter of the two and at least I'm backing up my allegation with actual numbers instead of politically regurgitated rhetoric. A lot of jobs are also temporary assignmenets, 3 months, sometims less. I don't want to take a temp job as a first choice because I would end of having to look for work again after the contract ends. Not to change the subject. I just wanted to say that I understand how hard the economy has been since getting laid off from my job of 5 years. Back on subject, going to elementary school we didn't qualify for free food. We did how ever get to work in the cafeteria once a month for a couple days and I remember being so excited to do it. We got extra lunch and dessert on Wednesdays. Now, did I think about child labor laws? No, I was having a blast and I got a treat. Lol. My heart goes out to you and sending good thoughts your way. It's pretty rough out there. Cost of living has gone up, wages have declined--presto, more programs to help support families such as the free and reduced lunch program (as well as tax breaks). My school didn't have a school lunch program either and we had a good number of students who were from quite poor families. Not enough cafeteria work for them all. I fed several of my classmates all through high school. I think it's a good program overall. It's just a shame that so many middle class families have to use it now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3461001 United States 06/24/2012 03:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's just a continuation of the school lunch program over the summer. For some kids, school lunch is the only meal they get all day. Quoting: Earth Daughter And it should be just for the kids. It's not their fault they were born to lazy ass parents who won't even slap together a peanut butter sandwich for their kid. Actually, the free lunch program is part of the "free and reduced" lunch program. It's not based on laziness factor but overall household income. Ie. a family of 4 that is surviving on an income less than $30k for free lunches, $30k- $42k for reduced (reduction is regressive as income increases). In my school district, lunch costs $117 a month for my two children. It's actually more than my electricity bill--go figure. Another thing to consider--it's an employers' market. Nearly every professional that I have known who has been laid off over the past 4 years has ended up working elsewhere for $10-$20k less per year. An entry level accounting position in my city makes just over $30k a year. That would be for a CPA with 1-3 years accounting experience and a 4 year degree. Now is it really laziness or is it that employers know that they can get employees really cheap right now because of competition for jobs? I'd say the latter of the two and at least I'm backing up my allegation with actual numbers instead of politically regurgitated rhetoric. A lot of jobs are also temporary assignmenets, 3 months, sometims less. I don't want to take a temp job as a first choice because I would end of having to look for work again after the contract ends. Not to change the subject. I just wanted to say that I understand how hard the economy has been since getting laid off from my job of 5 years. Back on subject, going to elementary school we didn't qualify for free food. We did how ever get to work in the cafeteria once a month for a couple days and I remember being so excited to do it. We got extra lunch and dessert on Wednesdays. Now, did I think about child labor laws? No, I was having a blast and I got a treat. Lol. My heart goes out to you and sending good thoughts your way. It's pretty rough out there. Cost of living has gone up, wages have declined--presto, more programs to help support families such as the free and reduced lunch program (as well as tax breaks). My school didn't have a school lunch program either and we had a good number of students who were from quite poor families. Not enough cafeteria work for them all. I fed several of my classmates all through high school. I think it's a good program overall. It's just a shame that so many middle class families have to use it now. I hope it gets easier for people out there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18492352 United Kingdom 06/24/2012 04:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think this is a good thing, and should be looked at as such. I also think you asking this question is a good thing, but given a fast, quick answer that, this is how it has to be when it comes to free food, kids no kids. Quoting: Zakk your think is good, we need that, and we need to make sure free food can be provided in a manner that it can be made good use of. it looks like both are here, now carry on and be normal! Red 36 |
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Evolving_Enigma User ID: 17676390 United States 06/24/2012 04:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know if this is conditioning. When I was a kid we used to get free lunches at the park during summer. I thought it was great to play at the park and get a free lunch. My parents were never there, it was just me and my siblings. I remember being a kid and thinking how cool it was that I got milk and a small thing of orange juice. As a kid I didn't think about how nice it was that the govt was taking care of me. It's just not a thought a kid has. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3461001 ^^THIS^^ These programs have been around for decades...I thought it was fun myself. One of my family members used to run our local one ( till they shut it down) LOL |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18446580 United States 06/24/2012 04:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, the separation is necessary. Children do not have to be accompanied by an adult, and EVERYONE is fed. A bad person could easily infiltrate (become a daily familiar "friend")and walk off with your child. Separating the adults from the children may not prevent this from happening, but it is a step in the right direction. |
citizenperth User ID: 18407526 Australia 06/24/2012 05:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | perhaps they are learning from the Greece incident where they fed the Men first..... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
withoutatrace User ID: 15430545 United States 06/24/2012 06:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, the separation is necessary. Children do not have to be accompanied by an adult, and EVERYONE is fed. A bad person could easily infiltrate (become a daily familiar "friend")and walk off with your child. Separating the adults from the children may not prevent this from happening, but it is a step in the right direction. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18446580 The separation is necessary because someone could infiltrate and kidnap a child? Are you serious? Would you like the nanny state to just take and raise all the children too, just so they're "safer" from the boogeyman? The government has NO business separating parents from their children. EVER. No, separating children from their parents because of an invisible, non-present threat is not a step in the right direction. |
IRQ_1 User ID: 1157608 United States 06/24/2012 06:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While I can understand the concept of giving food to children directly to avoid fraud, shouldn't the food go to a FAMILY to be given out as seen fit, or am I relying on old stereotypes? Any time the family as a whole is bypassed I get suspicious of some other normalization taking place. ie Get them used to being separated and everything is good. Last Edited by IRQ_1 on 06/24/2012 06:10 AM Jack of all trades master of none "shall not be infringed." BLUE RIBBON AWARNESS FOR MENS' HEALTH Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. --ISAAC ASIMOV I never 'Ad hominem' I don't need to. The Constitution means everything or nothing. You can't have both. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1670361 06/24/2012 06:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ya a bit strange, but the sign says "Free for KIDS" not for fat ass parents. Quoting: northerntomcat Yeah this^! It's not a wonder why they are separating the fat-ass free-loading parents. I would too. Some of you are missing the BIGGER PICTURE here. If you think it's about "fat-assed" parents they have you exactly where they want you. True but while we are on the subject a couple of them could mix in a salad, Just sayin. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12478270 New Zealand 06/24/2012 06:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is conditioning for the mass food lines under the false hope of obtaining food, shelter and safety when the society collapses. the nazis seperated families. it's an ugly weapon to keep everyone in order as they are shipped off to their deaths. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18450928 I condemn this in the name and power of Jesus Christ. ^^^^^This |
Evolving_Enigma User ID: 17676390 United States 06/24/2012 07:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's just a continuation of the school lunch program over the summer. For some kids, school lunch is the only meal they get all day. Quoting: Earth Daughter And it should be just for the kids. It's not their fault they were born to lazy ass parents who won't even slap together a peanut butter sandwich for their kid. Actually, the free lunch program is part of the "free and reduced" lunch program. It's not based on laziness factor but overall household income. Ie. a family of 4 that is surviving on an income less than $30k for free lunches, $30k- $42k for reduced (reduction is regressive as income increases). In my school district, lunch costs $117 a month for my two children. It's actually more than my electricity bill--go figure. Another thing to consider--it's an employers' market. Nearly every professional that I have known who has been laid off over the past 4 years has ended up working elsewhere for $10-$20k less per year. An entry level accounting position in my city makes just over $30k a year. That would be for a CPA with 1-3 years accounting experience and a 4 year degree. Now is it really laziness or is it that employers know that they can get employees really cheap right now because of competition for jobs? I'd say the latter of the two and at least I'm backing up my allegation with actual numbers instead of politically regurgitated rhetoric. I am making less than half of what I was now, I work in design, marketing or software sales. I am on the look-out for something better constantly. However I had to take something...it's been a bad time for me for almost 2 yrs now. Most jobs in my line of work are converting over from FT 40+ hrs or PT 25-30 hrs plus 20-35% commission (usually recurring) to now first sales commission ONLY and a 1099. In other words if you don't sell any product you make NO money. This is the new model in sales from my observations, good for the employer...not so good for the person trying to FEED THEMSELVES lol!! Nice to be able to stay home, however I have worked remote for a long time so it's not so much a perk for me anymore although...( I can't understand how people can afford to commute, pay for gas, raise kids, pay for food rent and have any sort of a social life) This is at least hourly but it's only 10 hrs a week LOL plus 1% commission LOL As for the program it's like another poster said, just a continuation of the school lunch program. The kids are segregated out to cut down on fraud, nothing more. If there were no bars in the picture I don't even think people would react this way. In the program my family member ran ( which the local high school would drop off the food in the morning) the program was ran out of the fire-hall and adults stayed outside or sat at the adult table and talked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18152328 United Kingdom 06/24/2012 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While I can understand the concept of giving food to children directly to avoid fraud, shouldn't the food go to a FAMILY to be given out as seen fit, or am I relying on old stereotypes? Quoting: IRQ_1 Any time the family as a whole is bypassed I get suspicious of some other normalization taking place. ie Get them used to being separated and everything is good. It's to create distrust in family (see all of the comments in this thread about "bad parents stealing food from their children") and trust in the fairness and decency in the good and child feeding government. I've given up on the trained society already. Good luck with it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9014106 Australia 06/24/2012 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, the separation is necessary. Children do not have to be accompanied by an adult, and EVERYONE is fed. A bad person could easily infiltrate (become a daily familiar "friend")and walk off with your child. Separating the adults from the children may not prevent this from happening, but it is a step in the right direction. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18446580 The best way to stop someone walking off with a child is by ensuring they are WITH their parents - Duh! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9107938 United States 06/24/2012 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^^ this ^^ Depend on the Government for all your needs Depend on the Government for all your needs Depend on the Government for all your needs Depend on the Government for all your needs Depend on the Government for all your needs Depend on the Government for all your needs Depend on the Government for all your needs Future career welfare and food stamp kids |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17424892 United States 06/24/2012 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, the separation is necessary. Children do not have to be accompanied by an adult, and EVERYONE is fed. A bad person could easily infiltrate (become a daily familiar "friend")and walk off with your child. Separating the adults from the children may not prevent this from happening, but it is a step in the right direction. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18446580 You can't be serious. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18446580 United States 06/24/2012 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually, the separation is necessary. Children do not have to be accompanied by an adult, and EVERYONE is fed. A bad person could easily infiltrate (become a daily familiar "friend")and walk off with your child. Separating the adults from the children may not prevent this from happening, but it is a step in the right direction. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18446580 The separation is necessary because someone could infiltrate and kidnap a child? Are you serious? Would you like the nanny state to just take and raise all the children too, just so they're "safer" from the boogeyman? The government has NO business separating parents from their children. EVER. No, separating children from their parents because of an invisible, non-present threat is not a step in the right direction. Maybe you did not read my whole statement. Children ARE NOT REQUIRED TO BE ACCOMPANIED BY AN ADULT. Who will prove who the parent is? There aren't many people there who claim to be parents, but there are a lot of young children, alone. California seems to house a lot of predators, targeting young boys and little girls. Are you not watching the news? Get off your high horse and think logically. This isn't some family picnic, it is a free for all. Recap. It is rare that a "family" arrives together. |
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Earth Daughter User ID: 18325407 United States 06/24/2012 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's just a continuation of the school lunch program over the summer. For some kids, school lunch is the only meal they get all day. Quoting: Earth Daughter And it should be just for the kids. It's not their fault they were born to lazy ass parents who won't even slap together a peanut butter sandwich for their kid. Actually, the free lunch program is part of the "free and reduced" lunch program. It's not based on laziness factor but overall household income. Ie. a family of 4 that is surviving on an income less than $30k for free lunches, $30k- $42k for reduced (reduction is regressive as income increases). In my school district, lunch costs $117 a month for my two children. It's actually more than my electricity bill--go figure. Another thing to consider--it's an employers' market. Nearly every professional that I have known who has been laid off over the past 4 years has ended up working elsewhere for $10-$20k less per year. An entry level accounting position in my city makes just over $30k a year. That would be for a CPA with 1-3 years accounting experience and a 4 year degree. Now is it really laziness or is it that employers know that they can get employees really cheap right now because of competition for jobs? I'd say the latter of the two and at least I'm backing up my allegation with actual numbers instead of politically regurgitated rhetoric. Times are hard for everyone, even me. But I'll be damned before I send my child off to school without a lunch. I'd rather starve myself than see them hungry. There are cheap ways to feed your children if you are in need. "Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1550123 United States 06/24/2012 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know if this is conditioning. When I was a kid we used to get free lunches at the park during summer. I thought it was great to play at the park and get a free lunch. My parents were never there, it was just me and my siblings. I remember being a kid and thinking how cool it was that I got milk and a small thing of orange juice. As a kid I didn't think about how nice it was that the govt was taking care of me. It's just not a thought a kid has. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3461001 True |