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Borat Sagdiyev User ID: 18344634 United States 06/23/2012 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the owner were to put fucking Solar Panels on his house, not only would he get Quoting: Borat Sagdiyev a tax break, Obama would probably drop by and give a campaign speech. Hey man, try not to talk too much shit about solar panels. Electric companies will pay you for any excess energy that feeds back into their grid. Wait a minute...I wonder if I could buy some land with the express purpose of covering it with solar panels so I could get paid by the electric company? There's plenty of morons who think of alternative energy as a "religion." They get tax breaks from the government, and oftentimes getting a tithe from the Dept of Energy. But when a religion asks for a legitimate tax break, they get hassled by bureaucratic assholes, like these assholes in Phoenix. A pox on them all. |
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christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 06/23/2012 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the article you retards! He wasn't thrown in jail for worshiping. He was thrown in jail for putting up a building without getting a permit! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10823255 Since when do they throw you in Jail for Building Code Violations on your property?????? Squaters don't even go to Jail or people who do not pay their mortgage.... Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5689211 United States 06/23/2012 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arizona preacher Michael Salman was sentenced to jail for building what the City of Phoenix claims he has been representing as a church on his home property without securing the proper permits. Salman claims the building is not a church and is simply for private Bible study gatherings. Quoting: christian Salman's case, which started in 2007, reached its conclusion this week when a Phoenix court ruled that he was guilty of more than five dozen violations in constructing the building and sentenced him to 60 days in jail and three years of probation. The preacher, whose ministry is called Harvest Christian Fellowship, claims he was exercising his religious liberty by worshiping at home on his private property, and that his gatherings were no different than when people hold Super Bowl or Christmas parties. "You're taking a man out of society and sticking him in jail for worshiping at his home," he told a local news station. The issue with Salman's case was a building in his backyard, which the City said he constructed without abiding by legal codes and safety standards. The building, reportedly used for weekly gatherings of about 30 to 40 people, has a pulpit and chairs. The building, located on his 1.5-acre property, is about 2,000 square feet and was previously labeled a "game room" by Salman but organized on the inside for worship services. Salman, who describes himself as a "Pastor of the Christian faith" and was ordained in 1996 by Church of God in Christ elders, has spoken out on the case in several videos published to his YouTube Channel. [link to www.christianpost.com] HOWEVER: If you want to host SWINGER PARTIES at your house, your good to go! Arizona Swingers Clubs Phoenix Adult Lifestyles Phoenix, Arizona Swingers Club at Private homes.... what, and he didn't build it to code? that wouldn't be too smart now would it? I mean the law is the law, such as it be ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5689211 United States 06/23/2012 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the article you retards! He wasn't thrown in jail for worshiping. He was thrown in jail for putting up a building without getting a permit! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10823255 Since when do they throw you in Jail for Building Code Violations on your property?????? Squaters don't even go to Jail or people who do not pay their mortgage.... dunno, can't keep up with the ever changing tides of what's allowed anymore you'd have to be a veritable wizard to do such at any rate I damn sure wouldn't go a building things without the proper permits would you? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5689211 United States 06/23/2012 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the article you retards! He wasn't thrown in jail for worshiping. He was thrown in jail for putting up a building without getting a permit! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10823255 Since when do they throw you in Jail for Building Code Violations on your property?????? Squaters don't even go to Jail or people who do not pay their mortgage.... dunno, can't keep up with the ever changing tides of what's allowed anymore you'd have to be a veritable wizard to do such at any rate I damn sure wouldn't go a building things without the proper permits would you? it would likely fall in on my head were I to bother. |
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christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 United States 06/23/2012 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the article you retards! He wasn't thrown in jail for worshiping. He was thrown in jail for putting up a building without getting a permit! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10823255 Since when do they throw you in Jail for Building Code Violations on your property?????? Squaters don't even go to Jail or people who do not pay their mortgage.... dunno, can't keep up with the ever changing tides of what's allowed anymore you'd have to be a veritable wizard to do such at any rate I damn sure wouldn't go a building things without the proper permits would you? If I knew what the permits were for, if their is a dis-agreement they can make you tear down with what you build.. I lived in one place a few years ago that was run by the H.O.A Nazi's. They gave me monthly fines for parking in my driveway and not keeping my vehicle in the garage, I guess I should feel lucky they didn't throw me in the Pen. Susie For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21 There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5689211 United States 06/23/2012 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the article you retards! He wasn't thrown in jail for worshiping. He was thrown in jail for putting up a building without getting a permit! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10823255 you know it's all well and good to be outraged at times but then again there ARE times when it isn't productive to do so and knowing the difference between the two can save you much more than the trouble. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5689211 United States 06/23/2012 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the article you retards! He wasn't thrown in jail for worshiping. He was thrown in jail for putting up a building without getting a permit! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10823255 you know it's all well and good to be outraged at times but then again there ARE times when it isn't productive to do so and knowing the difference between the two can save you much more than the trouble. and when you lose the ability to decipher betwixt and between the two you become your own worst enemy in the process |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5689211 United States 06/23/2012 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read the article you retards! He wasn't thrown in jail for worshiping. He was thrown in jail for putting up a building without getting a permit! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10823255 Since when do they throw you in Jail for Building Code Violations on your property?????? Squaters don't even go to Jail or people who do not pay their mortgage.... dunno, can't keep up with the ever changing tides of what's allowed anymore you'd have to be a veritable wizard to do such at any rate I damn sure wouldn't go a building things without the proper permits would you? If I knew what the permits were for, if their is a dis-agreement they can make you tear down with what you build.. I lived in one place a few years ago that was run by the H.O.A Nazi's. They gave me monthly fines for parking in my driveway and not keeping my vehicle in the garage, I guess I should feel lucky they didn't throw me in the Pen. which is why it would behoove one to go thru the proper channels prior to commencing with the pounding of nails unless you're crafting your coffin |
TDJ User ID: 17954117 United States 06/23/2012 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already. Bob Marley “The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809) Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee |
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Rebelucio User ID: 4938108 United States 06/23/2012 11:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Declare it an altar, rename yourselves the Disciples of the Final Messiah, and declare first amendment rights. Quoting: Orisos I mean, shit, if the Germanic Pagans can do it why not you guys? Get creative. Why do they need to? We are suppose to have religious liberty in the USA... The first amendment states that congress shall make no law. Not local governments. That's where the people come in. People must organize to create the society they wish to be a part of. Love thy enemy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5689211 United States 06/23/2012 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10823255 He was thrown in jail for putting up a building without getting a permit! . Jailed -- for allegedly violating a fucking building code?! Push away from the keyboard and just think about that shit for a minute ... :thebattle: . and why prey tell (no typo) do you imagine he didn't bother going through the proper guidelines/channels with reference to building ordinances that have been on the books for AGES long before he was in way over his head on the construction end of things? it does give one pause, at the very least. was it perhaps because he checked into it and discovered that he wasn't going to be allowed to start contracting thusly? |
iamlizzyb User ID: 9658314 United States 06/23/2012 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The state of Arizona did its residents a FAVOR by disbanding a group of people succumbing to this guy's false religious teachings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18268558 I applaud the state's actions. . Dummy, the Constitution says freedom of religion, not freedom of "true" religions and "false" religions should not be allowed. Take your hatred and intolerance elsewhere.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5689211 United States 06/23/2012 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The state of Arizona did its residents a FAVOR by disbanding a group of people succumbing to this guy's false religious teachings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18268558 I applaud the state's actions. . Dummy, the Constitution says freedom of religion, not freedom of "true" religions and "false" religions should not be allowed. Take your hatred and intolerance elsewhere.. don't preach to be about religion or spirituality for that matter this has to do with common laws regarding building anything if I am not mistaken whether or not they lowered the boom on him due to his affiliations with same is IRRELEVANT in concluding your arguments in this particular regard |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5689211 United States 06/23/2012 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL this happens a lot to people around my area but in terms of mini green houses. When I say Mini I mean Mini. Like. a 4x4 built of 2x4's with a plastic cover. Quoting: HuffyCantankerous no doubt so yes building codes are in force for good reason whether or not they are misused and abused by tptb is truly irrelevant in this regard and that is as it should be, nonetheless |
Anonymous User ID: 11937692 United States 06/23/2012 11:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the states just pissed of their not gettin cash for it Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18480099 no conspiracy here. if you cant present yourself and get the judge to offer real remedy you end up in prison. Muslims don't need to pass city codes to worship out in the open streets, on the ground prayers 6 times a day, blocking city streets and their residents while they have open worship, in front of EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! New York But god fearing christians can't worship in the privacy of their own homes. Americans in their own country!!!! [link to www.hoax-slayer.com] |
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