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Rand Paul has gone to the darkside. Wants you to eat GMO's.

 
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Using government to force companies to label GMO's isn't very Libertarian at all. You obviously don't agree with the free market values that Ron Paul does...or Rand for that matter.
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you are one sick puppy...
Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu.

Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher.
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Re: Rand Paul has gone to the darkside. Wants you to eat GMO's.
I've always like Rand Paul. Seems way more sensible than his father.
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sure... if you live on mars?
Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu.

Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher.
Thread: I shot video of the earth from my spacecraft, enjoy!
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Re: Rand Paul has gone to the darkside. Wants you to eat GMO's.
Didn't really Mind is support to Romney as I thought it would bring fair influence.
But I guess I was wrong. And Rand is piece of crap.

Big time crap
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Using government to force companies to label GMO's isn't very Libertarian at all. You obviously don't agree with the free market values that Ron Paul does...or Rand for that matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15443439


Hiding the ingredients deprives consumers power to make an informed choice and that is the antithesis of a free market.
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Re: Rand Paul has gone to the darkside. Wants you to eat GMO's.
Well my Swedish meatball, here in America we can still do basically whatever we want. Many times for the greater good, which you would not understand.

You have a closed society at best, a paranoid one at worst. Your country is made up of two groups... white and bread.

GMO's feed a large portion of the world's population. As populations grow, GMO's will save millions upon millions of lives. Now I realize for your small little backwards country that this type of high technology is difficult to comprehend, but I hope that you will think of what Africa, India, the United States, and China will need in the not so distant future.

Food.

Lots of food.

Europe and Russia are dying. The population is going down like a rock. The rest of humanity will move forward without you or simply make you irrelevant. Then again, you already are.

Push your depopulation communist agenda somewhere else.
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GMO's are a part of the depopulation agenda. naughty Idol1
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chemtrails will make only gmo grains grow....

clue....

agriculture is being weaponized....

rome used to throw sea salt at all the conquered farmer`s lands....

so they would only be able to by grains directly from rome....

taxes?
Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu.

Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher.
Thread: I shot video of the earth from my spacecraft, enjoy!
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Re: Rand Paul has gone to the darkside. Wants you to eat GMO's.
Senator from Kentucky, he has voted NO on a GMO labeling amendment to the farm bill “to permit States to require that any food, beverage, or other edible product offered for sale have a label on indicating that the food, beverage, or other edible product contains a genetically engineered ingredient.”
[link to www.federaljack.com]

This really bothers me. Ron Paul is either a very heartbroken man or he is truely controlled opposition. This is devastating.gaah
 Quoting: Macraider


Rand's thinking is a perfect example of why libertarianism is not the panacea some might think it to be.

The labeling requirement gives every customer free choice to use the information in their buying decision or they can choose to ignore it.

If I'm not mistaken there is a law or a regulation (FDA?) that makes it illegal for companies to say their products are GMO free.

It's an attack on freedom of speech and a restraint on trade.
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Using government to force companies to label GMO's isn't very Libertarian at all. You obviously don't agree with the free market values that Ron Paul does...or Rand for that matter.
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Libertarians want to know if their food is GMO so they can decide if they want to buy it or not.
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Using government to force companies to label GMO's isn't very Libertarian at all. You obviously don't agree with the free market values that Ron Paul does...or Rand for that matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15443439


At some point right and wrong should trump whatever your dumb party ideology is. Allowing companies to hide what is in our food is clearly wrong and being on the right, left, or center shouldn't dictate how you feel about that.
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rockon

As a libertarian you would know that you're free to do as you please as long as you are not harming others. GMO's are harming many people. You also have the right to fight for liberty, and someone who breaks that contract(harming others) can expect retaliation. This is in no way a type of threat, it's just the way things would work (naturally) if everyone had these values.
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Never trust a republican

That rule will serve you well in life.
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You misspelled "Democrat".
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chuckle

That was funny. Don't necessary agree but funny nonetheless.
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Re: Rand Paul has gone to the darkside. Wants you to eat GMO's.
they aren't called Dr. No's for no reason. They won't vote to expand government. Period.
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Using government to force companies to label GMO's isn't very Libertarian at all. You obviously don't agree with the free market values that Ron Paul does...or Rand for that matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15443439


Hiding the ingredients deprives consumers power to make an informed choice and that is the antithesis of a free market.
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Just don't buy it if you don't want to; but forcing them to label it is regulation, like it or not
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I don't trust Rand Paul. He has the greasy hair and beady eyes of a traitor. Looks like a slimeball to me that is my gut feeling about him. Don't trust his dad either, he is controlled opposition. . . Could have put up a stronger fight in 2008 and called out Obama on many issues ubt instead he dropped out of the race prematurely.
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He wants ME specifically to eat GMO foods?

I have never met him, so how can he want me to GMO foods?
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Re: Rand Paul has gone to the darkside. Wants you to eat GMO's.
Rand Pauls dad wears dirty diapers.
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Using government to force companies to label GMO's isn't very Libertarian at all. You obviously don't agree with the free market values that Ron Paul does...or Rand for that matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15443439


Hiding the ingredients deprives consumers power to make an informed choice and that is the antithesis of a free market.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1539986


The same free market gives choice to the consumers to NOT buy from those companies who dont list their ingredients.

Get it?
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Using government to force companies to label GMO's isn't very Libertarian at all. You obviously don't agree with the free market values that Ron Paul does...or Rand for that matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15443439


Hiding the ingredients deprives consumers power to make an informed choice and that is the antithesis of a free market.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1539986


Just don't buy it if you don't want to; but forcing them to label it is regulation, like it or not
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How can you tell which is which if it is not labeled ?
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they aren't called Dr. No's for no reason. They won't vote to expand government. Period.
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And thats a good thing. Look what the government does already with all the power and money it steals from the tax pairs. All those guns smuggled to Mexico that killed 200 mexicans and one american were bought by the tax payers money. Obama or Holder would not have done this if their personal money was involved. Scams like this are only possible because the gov gets free money. Which is why atleast the corporations should remain free from government's clutches...

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Using government to force companies to label GMO's isn't very Libertarian at all. You obviously don't agree with the free market values that Ron Paul does...or Rand for that matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15443439


Hiding the ingredients deprives consumers power to make an informed choice and that is the antithesis of a free market.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1539986


Just don't buy it if you don't want to; but forcing them to label it is regulation, like it or not
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18520341


How can you tell which is which if it is not labeled ?
 Quoting: Shogu666


If its not labeled, ask the manufecturer. If he doesnt tell you whats in it, dont buy it. They'll get the message. But dont give the government the right to force independent corporations to do something you'll regret later. Government is NOT the solution to everything, its the problem.
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Using government to force companies to label GMO's isn't very Libertarian at all. You obviously don't agree with the free market values that Ron Paul does...or Rand for that matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15443439


Yet the very same GMO producing companies have infiltrated the government and are receiving farm subsidies. Farm subsidies do not actually come from the government as the government has no money of its own. That money comes from tax payers. If tax payers want companies to label their products that is what should be done versus subsidizing their frankenfood.
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Using government to force companies to label GMO's isn't very Libertarian at all. You obviously don't agree with the free market values that Ron Paul does...or Rand for that matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15443439


Hiding the ingredients deprives consumers power to make an informed choice and that is the antithesis of a free market.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1539986


Just don't buy it if you don't want to; but forcing them to label it is regulation, like it or not
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18520341


that was dumb.....

labels are there for a purpose....

would you buy a package of cereal that contained saccharin?

how would you know if it`s not listed on the label?

it`s not regulation it`s product identification....
Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu.

Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher.
Thread: I shot video of the earth from my spacecraft, enjoy!
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Using government to force companies to label GMO's isn't very Libertarian at all. You obviously don't agree with the free market values that Ron Paul does...or Rand for that matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15443439


Yet the very same GMO producing companies have infiltrated the government and are receiving farm subsidies. Farm subsidies do not actually come from the government as the government has no money of its own. That money comes from tax payers. If tax payers want companies to label their products that is what should be done versus subsidizing their frankenfood.
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No. Tax payers dont fund the corporations. The moment a tax payer has paid his taxes he has no right over that money or where that money goes or what would be done with it. If he wants something different done with it, he must change his government, or make his government create some different laws and force the government to not lend money to corporations he doesnt like.

But the corporations owe NOTHING to the tax payers. Which is why they can run their business however they want and they are in business to make a profit for the owners or the shareholders. They owe the public nothing. You cant expect them to be moral or ethical for you. Just like you cant expect your neighbor to be moral or ethical for your sake. Why? Cause the neighbor doesnt owe his existence to you.

Same rule applies to corporations. If you dont like their product, dont buy it. They'll get the message. If you want them gone, start a petition, call your mayor, call the newspapers, make some noise, start a website, do something, anything but you cant force them to do what you like or not. Because they dont exist for you. They exist for their own sake, for their own goals and owe nobody nothing.

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Using government to force companies to label GMO's isn't very Libertarian at all. You obviously don't agree with the free market values that Ron Paul does...or Rand for that matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15443439


Hiding the ingredients deprives consumers power to make an informed choice and that is the antithesis of a free market.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1539986


Just don't buy it if you don't want to; but forcing them to label it is regulation, like it or not
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18520341


that was dumb.....

labels are there for a purpose....

would you buy a package of cereal that contained saccharin?

how would you know if it`s not listed on the label?

it`s not regulation it`s product identification....
 Quoting: mr...bojangles


Then dont buy it. If its not labeled and you have your suspicions, dont buy it. Thats the whole point. Nobody is holding a gun to your head. You just wana have you cake and eat it too. Now thats whats really dumb.
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ants won`t eat gmo corn....

clue....
Beyond one's own mind there is no dazzling light to come shining in from outside to wake one up. If one recognizes one's own intrinsic State as pure from the beginning and only temporarily obscured by impurities, and if one maintains the presence of this recognition without becoming distracted, then all the impurities dissolve. This is the essence of the Path-namkhai norbu.

Why is there a legend about the descent of Christ into hell? The Teacher addressed the lower strata of the astral world, saying: �Why, by cherishing earthly thoughts, bind oneself eternally to Earth?� And many revolted in spirit and rose higher.
Thread: I shot video of the earth from my spacecraft, enjoy!
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ants won`t eat gmo corn....

clue....
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And your point is?

Perhaps you should also notice that ants also dont vote or carry guns or blow up other ants or write stupid posts on a conspiracy forum.
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Ron Paul is either a very heartbroken man or he is truely controlled opposition.
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EVERYONE who thought Ron Paul (and Rand) was something else as controlled opposition has always been and will always be a retard. Same goes for all the conspiracy show radio hosts since except William Cooper who brought out everything you need to know and got whacked for that.
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Rand Paul, by his own admission, is not a libertarian, so I don't know why everyone is arguing like he should be.

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Hiding the ingredients deprives consumers power to make an informed choice and that is the antithesis of a free market.
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Just don't buy it if you don't want to; but forcing them to label it is regulation, like it or not


How can you tell which is which if it is not labeled ?


If its not labeled, ask the manufecturer. If he doesnt tell you whats in it, dont buy it. They'll get the message. But dont give the government the right to force independent corporations to do something you'll regret later. Government is NOT the solution to everything, its the problem.


And who will judge that potential response is correct.
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Using government to force companies to label GMO's isn't very Libertarian at all. You obviously don't agree with the free market values that Ron Paul does...or Rand for that matter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15443439


Yet the very same GMO producing companies have infiltrated the government and are receiving farm subsidies. Farm subsidies do not actually come from the government as the government has no money of its own. That money comes from tax payers. If tax payers want companies to label their products that is what should be done versus subsidizing their frankenfood.
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No. Tax payers dont fund the corporations. The moment a tax payer has paid his taxes he has no right over that money or where that money goes or what would be done with it. If he wants something different done with it, he must change his government, or make his government create some different laws and force the government to not lend money to corporations he doesnt like.

But the corporations owe NOTHING to the tax payers. Which is why they can run their business however they want and they are in business to make a profit for the owners or the shareholders. They owe the public nothing. You cant expect them to be moral or ethical for you. Just like you cant expect your neighbor to be moral or ethical for your sake. Why? Cause the neighbor doesnt owe his existence to you.

Same rule applies to corporations. If you dont like their product, dont buy it. They'll get the message. If you want them gone, start a petition, call your mayor, call the newspapers, make some noise, start a website, do something, anything but you cant force them to do what you like or not. Because they dont exist for you. They exist for their own sake, for their own goals and owe nobody nothing.

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The tax payer has a right to say where his money goes. In the United States it is supposed to be government of the PEOPLE, for the PEOPLE and by the PEOPLE. The problem with the government here in the United States is that it has been taken over by corporations. Look at the Venn Diagrams on GEKE and you will see this. When corporations are getting TAX PAYER subsidies they do owe the tax payer. The politicians should be doing what the people elect them to do and what the people want them to do, but often times they are too busy sucking corporate dick.
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When are people going to realize NOBODY has ever or will ever "fight for them"?
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