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Is Death An Illusion? Evidence Suggests Death Isnít the End

 
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After the death of his old friend, Albert Einstein said ďNow Besso has departed from this strange world a little ahead of me. That means nothing. People like us Ö know that the distinction between past, present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion.Ē

New evidence continues to suggest that Einstein was right Ė death is an illusion.

Our classical way of thinking is based on the belief that the world has an objective observer-independent existence. But a long list of experiments shows just the opposite. We think life is just the activity of carbon and an admixture of molecules Ė we live awhile and then rot into the ground.

We believe in death because weíve been taught we die. Also, of course, because we associate ourselves with our body and we know bodies die. End of story. But biocentrism Ė a new theory of everything Ė tells us death may not be the terminal event we think. Amazingly, if you add life and consciousness to the equation, you can explain some of the biggest puzzles of science. For instance, it becomes clear why space and time Ė and even the properties of matter itself Ė depend on the observer. It also becomes clear why the laws, forces, and constants of the universe appear to be exquisitely fine-tuned for the existence of life.

Until we recognize the universe in our heads, attempts to understand reality will remain a road to nowhere.
Rest of story......


[link to www.robertlanzabiocentrism.com]
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Consider the weather Ďoutsideí: You see a blue sky, but the cells in your brain could be changed so the sky looks green or red. In fact, with a little genetic engineering we could probably make everything that is red vibrate or make a noise, or even make you want to have sex like with some birds. You think its bright out, but your brain circuits could be changed so it looks dark out. You think it feels hot and humid, but to a tropical frog it would feel cold and dry. This logic applies to virtually everything. Bottom line: What you see could not be present without your consciousness.

In truth, you canít see anything through the bone that surrounds your brain. Your eyes are not portals to the world. Everything you see and experience right now Ė even your body Ė is a whirl of information occurring in your mind. According to biocentrism, space and time arenít the hard, cold objects we think. Wave your hand through the air Ė if you take everything away, whatís left? Nothing. The same thing applies for time. Space and time are simply the tools for putting everything together.
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Anyone can put a bunch of words together and speculate that it might be true.
There is an objective reality to this world, and our senses are made so that we can perceive as close to the truth as possible what that reality is, otherwise we wouldn't have survived as a species this long.
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Correct, our current 3D reality is an illusion, then death is also an illusion.
"I'm trying to be a good soldier.. but you can't be a good soldier in a rotten war, Sir."
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OP, you are right on with this. here's the problem. trying to convince 95% of so called people is not going to help you grow. in fact it will do the opposite. this affirmation is what keeps some from advancing the matrix prison which the body is a part of. some speculate that most people are not only different but part of the matrix environment. in other words the y will decompose back into the atomic landscape and that energy within is the electricity coursing through your tv and radio. most zombie mind controlled people or either compromised by archonic infestation/ possession or simulations themselves, much like a video game -- totally controlled. it seems there are a few that is the test subjects that the controllers are trying to weaken through illusion due to an opposing force within. remember, positive and negative energy creates volts, this explains dualism and guilt and religions as beliefs add voltage to the matrix, powering it. archons were described as cyborgs in gnostic texts, so they could be maintaining it. question is, what designed it all. you will never get close to the answers when surrounded by zombie chatter.
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Anyone can put a bunch of words together and speculate that it might be true.
There is an objective reality to this world, and our senses are made so that we can perceive as close to the truth as possible what that reality is, otherwise we wouldn't have survived as a species this long.
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2 bad science is a hard subject for you to put together, but that's your programming isn't it?
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After the death of his old friend, Albert Einstein said ďNow Besso has departed from this strange world a little ahead of me. That means nothing. People like us Ö know that the distinction between past, present and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion.Ē

New evidence continues to suggest that Einstein was right Ė death is an illusion.

Our classical way of thinking is based on the belief that the world has an objective observer-independent existence. But a long list of experiments shows just the opposite. We think life is just the activity of carbon and an admixture of molecules Ė we live awhile and then rot into the ground.

We believe in death because weíve been taught we die. Also, of course, because we associate ourselves with our body and we know bodies die. End of story. But biocentrism Ė a new theory of everything Ė tells us death may not be the terminal event we think. Amazingly, if you add life and consciousness to the equation, you can explain some of the biggest puzzles of science. For instance, it becomes clear why space and time Ė and even the properties of matter itself Ė depend on the observer. It also becomes clear why the laws, forces, and constants of the universe appear to be exquisitely fine-tuned for the existence of life.

Until we recognize the universe in our heads, attempts to understand reality will remain a road to nowhere.
Rest of story......


[link to www.robertlanzabiocentrism.com]
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The constructs of an infinite but changing bipolar universe..ensures that all residual energy and matter gets infinitely re-used and recycled (infinitely)..but not in any planned, pre-conceived, linear and organised way (that many humans foolishly believe)...as it is all random and semi-conditional...and unstable..which is clearly observeable throughout the universe.
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Correct, our current 3D reality is an illusion, then death is also an illusion.
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so all the graves are not real either? help me please get this
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we're all dreaming this?
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This is really interesting and pin-worthy for sure.bump
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Correct, our current 3D reality is an illusion, then death is also an illusion.
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so all the graves are not real either? help me please get this
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Your physical body is not really what makes you who you are. Your thoughts and "mind" is what makes you who you are. Your consciousness is what really makes you who you are. We are all made up of energy and your consciousness is that energy. Energy cannot be created or destroyed so when the physical body dies where does the energy that is your consciousness go? It has to go some place. It does not "die" since energy can't be destroyed. It is just transformed. That is what this article is referring to. You can still have a physical body in a grave but that does not mean that the person is still there. Their consciousness, which is what makes them who they are, is not in the grave with the physical body.
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Correct, our current 3D reality is an illusion, then death is also an illusion.
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so all the graves are not real either? help me please get this
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Your physical body is not really what makes you who you are. Your thoughts and "mind" is what makes you who you are. Your consciousness is what really makes you who you are. We are all made up of energy and your consciousness is that energy. Energy cannot be created or destroyed so when the physical body dies where does the energy that is your consciousness go? It has to go some place. It does not "die" since energy can't be destroyed. It is just transformed. That is what this article is referring to. You can still have a physical body in a grave but that does not mean that the person is still there. Their consciousness, which is what makes them who they are, is not in the grave with the physical body.
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What I referred to in my comment above is the First Law of Thermodynamics: "Energy can be changed from one form to another, but it cannot be created or destroyed. The total amount of energy and matter in the Universe remains constant, merely changing from one form to another."

[link to www.emc.maricopa.edu]

If you understand basic physics then you understand that death of the physical body is not the end.
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Who here knows what is to die, raise their hands?
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OP says: Death Isnít the End

Satan says: You shall not surely die.

God says: You shall surely die.


Gee... I'm gonna have to mull this one over a bit.
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Most obvious that there is no death is when you fall in love. Somehow you just know it. By looking at death you don't see the usual barrier, it was there before.
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OP says: Death Isnít the End

Satan says: You shall not surely die.

God says: You shall surely die.


Gee... I'm gonna have to mull this one over a bit.
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How do you know what God said? Has God told you this personally? You are basing what God said off of a book that was written by somebody other than God.

Besides, if God rally said that then he meant a physical death which is not the same as a "spiritual" (spirit basically boils down to energy) death.
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it's the beginning of something very very special.
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Death is an illusion caused by lack of life.
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OP says: Death Isnít the End

Satan says: You shall not surely die.

God says: You shall surely die.


Gee... I'm gonna have to mull this one over a bit.
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How do you know what God said? Has God told you this personally? You are basing what God said off of a book that was written by somebody other than God.

Besides, if God rally said that then he meant a physical death which is not the same as a "spiritual" (spirit basically boils down to energy) death.
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Actually, the physical basically boils down to energy. The first of law of thermodynamics does not apply to conscious experience, which is neither physical nor energetic.
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death is the lack of suitable conditions needed to maintain your physical body. it has nothing to do with you as a whole. death is like waking up from a dream. there is a greater reality out there and we cant see it while we are 'asleep' (alive) without great patience and training.

our knee jerk reaction is to fear death, and sure, no one enjoys death, pain, or leaving ones loved ones early.

but it is inevitable and certainly nothing to be feared.

if a fetus could think logically like a developed adult it would certainly confuse its own birth with its demise.
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My greatest fear on this matter... I truly hope that death really is the end and nothing else exist. I want neither heaven or hell, but just want it to be over. I consider life to be but a brief interlude between something, and then back to nothing. After this one is over, I really want no more of it. Are you kidding, this realm is nothing but a twisted joke. A prank I find tasteless at best!
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I think it's pretty simple...the PTB keep us locked in fear based propaganda at every facet of our lives. What makes anyone think that they wouldn't use the fear of death and trump it up to sound like there isn't anything after death. For them, it's a win situation because once again, you fear death because of the uncertainty. And then they can prey on your emotions because you're afraid of death and will give all of your power away just to live because the box in the ground might be the only thing after death.

Why do you think they are turning everything evil and corrupt? Now we have military officers not being able to speak at faith based events ordered by .... There is no question that there is something after death otherwise so much energy wouldn't be expended on trying to convince us there wasn't.

THINK!

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i look at it like a rocket and our bodies are the rocket booster. When it's time, the booster detaches and we then become the actual rocket fueled by our spirits and imaginations.
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OP says: Death Isnít the End

Satan says: You shall not surely die.

God says: You shall surely die.


Gee... I'm gonna have to mull this one over a bit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18530931


How do you know what God said? Has God told you this personally? You are basing what God said off of a book that was written by somebody other than God.

Besides, if God rally said that then he meant a physical death which is not the same as a "spiritual" (spirit basically boils down to energy) death.
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Actually, the physical basically boils down to energy. The first of law of thermodynamics does not apply to conscious experience, which is neither physical nor energetic.
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Your brain uses/releases energy though and that is tied in with your consciousness. This is where quarks come into play.
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if a fetus could think logically like a developed adult it would certainly confuse its own birth with its demise.
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Very true!
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and then watch this:

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bump
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If there's nobody left alive, does the Universe still exist without it experiencing itself consciously and subjectively.
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There is no death. There is the Force.
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If there's nobody left alive, does the Universe still exist without it experiencing itself consciously and subjectively.
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No. No bifurcation or multifurcation of the universe without a conscious being observing I would assume either. No matter what the interpretation I suppose.

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