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School bus driver beaten to death after accidentally knocking off mirror on double-parked car

 
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School bus driver beaten to death after accidentally knocking off mirror on double-parked car
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I think it is time to change the law and to charge anyone who throws a punch, whether that punch lands or not, with attempted murder.
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06/24/2012 03:26 PM
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I think it is time to change the law and to charge anyone who throws a punch, whether that punch lands or not, with attempted murder.
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that seems to be a little drastic
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06/24/2012 03:28 PM
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Hrm. When I knocked off someone's mirror they happily took my money and went away. Maybe there are too many steroids in the beef/chicken/etc part of the food supply.
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How is that drastic, there are enough cases to indicate that a punch often times results in death.
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If some fuckin' street fucker gets in yer face, strap on a head-butt, then kick him good when he's on the deck.

Stamp on his face.
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Re: School bus driver beaten to death after accidentally knocking off mirror on double-parked car
How is that drastic, there are enough cases to indicate that a punch often times results in death.
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Probably because the prisons are overcrowded enough and part of this is due to a populace that believes that imprisonment is the answer for everything from the neighbor's dog pooing on your lawn to drunken bar fights.
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How is that drastic, there are enough cases to indicate that a punch often times results in death.
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Probably because the prisons are overcrowded enough and part of this is due to a populace that believes that imprisonment is the answer for everything from the neighbor's dog pooing on your lawn to drunken bar fights.
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I am not saying attempted murder charges should apply to fights, I am saying attempted murder charges should apply to attacks. However, most "fights" are actually attacks, with one of the parties involved attacking, and the other individual defending themselves.
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How is that drastic, there are enough cases to indicate that a punch often times results in death.
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Probably because the prisons are overcrowded enough and part of this is due to a populace that believes that imprisonment is the answer for everything from the neighbor's dog pooing on your lawn to drunken bar fights.
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I am not saying attempted murder charges should apply to fights, I am saying attempted murder charges should apply to attacks. However, most "fights" are actually attacks, with one of the parties involved attacking, and the other individual defending themselves.
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Look.
The US already imprisons more people than any other country and there are very few people that have not been in at least one altercation during the course of their lives. If you feel so strongly that everyone that has ever exhibited any violence or active (read: violent) self protection should be imprisoned, then volunteer to build a wall around the entire country. Why? Because at the current rate of increase in incarceration in the states every single adult will be in prison in 2021..do the math, the stats are out there..start with wiki. When the curve of the graph is going nearly straight up from one year to the next when it comes to how many people are in prison, it's not a good sign. If you volunteer to build now you might get extra food at dinner time when you're officially incarcerated.
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I think it is time to change the law and to charge anyone who throws a punch, whether that punch lands or not, with attempted murder.
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Agreed. The party that initiates a violent confrontation must realize that they are putting their victim at risk of physical harm up to and including death.
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If some fuckin' street fucker gets in yer face, strap on a head-butt, then kick him good when he's on the deck.

Stamp on his face.
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+1
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Re: School bus driver beaten to death after accidentally knocking off mirror on double-parked car
How is that drastic, there are enough cases to indicate that a punch often times results in death.
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Probably because the prisons are overcrowded enough and part of this is due to a populace that believes that imprisonment is the answer for everything from the neighbor's dog pooing on your lawn to drunken bar fights.
 Quoting: skittle



I am not saying attempted murder charges should apply to fights, I am saying attempted murder charges should apply to attacks. However, most "fights" are actually attacks, with one of the parties involved attacking, and the other individual defending themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18437190


Look.
The US already imprisons more people than any other country and there are very few people that have not been in at least one altercation during the course of their lives. If you feel so strongly that everyone that has ever exhibited any violence or active (read: violent) self protection should be imprisoned, then volunteer to build a wall around the entire country. Why? Because at the current rate of increase in incarceration in the states every single adult will be in prison in 2021..do the math, the stats are out there..start with wiki. When the curve of the graph is going nearly straight up from one year to the next when it comes to how many people are in prison, it's not a good sign. If you volunteer to build now you might get extra food at dinner time when you're officially incarcerated.
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Sure so prisons should only be for violent crimes. This animal that killed this guy should be doing serious jail time even if his victim did not hit the ground badly and died. If throwing a punch was considered attempted murder then there would be a lot less punches thrown in the first place.
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Probably because the prisons are overcrowded enough and part of this is due to a populace that believes that imprisonment is the answer for everything from the neighbor's dog pooing on your lawn to drunken bar fights.
 Quoting: skittle



I am not saying attempted murder charges should apply to fights, I am saying attempted murder charges should apply to attacks. However, most "fights" are actually attacks, with one of the parties involved attacking, and the other individual defending themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18437190


Look.
The US already imprisons more people than any other country and there are very few people that have not been in at least one altercation during the course of their lives. If you feel so strongly that everyone that has ever exhibited any violence or active (read: violent) self protection should be imprisoned, then volunteer to build a wall around the entire country. Why? Because at the current rate of increase in incarceration in the states every single adult will be in prison in 2021..do the math, the stats are out there..start with wiki. When the curve of the graph is going nearly straight up from one year to the next when it comes to how many people are in prison, it's not a good sign. If you volunteer to build now you might get extra food at dinner time when you're officially incarcerated.
 Quoting: skittle


Sure so prisons should only be for violent crimes. This animal that killed this guy should be doing serious jail time even if his victim did not hit the ground badly and died. If throwing a punch was considered attempted murder then there would be a lot less punches thrown in the first place.
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You don't get it. Not that you're supposed to.
Enjoy your life.
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I am not saying attempted murder charges should apply to fights, I am saying attempted murder charges should apply to attacks. However, most "fights" are actually attacks, with one of the parties involved attacking, and the other individual defending themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18437190


Look.
The US already imprisons more people than any other country and there are very few people that have not been in at least one altercation during the course of their lives. If you feel so strongly that everyone that has ever exhibited any violence or active (read: violent) self protection should be imprisoned, then volunteer to build a wall around the entire country. Why? Because at the current rate of increase in incarceration in the states every single adult will be in prison in 2021..do the math, the stats are out there..start with wiki. When the curve of the graph is going nearly straight up from one year to the next when it comes to how many people are in prison, it's not a good sign. If you volunteer to build now you might get extra food at dinner time when you're officially incarcerated.
 Quoting: skittle


Sure so prisons should only be for violent crimes. This animal that killed this guy should be doing serious jail time even if his victim did not hit the ground badly and died. If throwing a punch was considered attempted murder then there would be a lot less punches thrown in the first place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18437190


You don't get it. Not that you're supposed to.
Enjoy your life.
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I thought that I get everything. What is it that I am not getting?
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I thought that I get everything. What is it that I am not getting?
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As one meme says:
I can explain it to you but I cannot understand it for you.
ANHEDONIC

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Re: School bus driver beaten to death after accidentally knocking off mirror on double-parked car
How is that drastic, there are enough cases to indicate that a punch often times results in death.
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Probably because the prisons are overcrowded enough and part of this is due to a populace that believes that imprisonment is the answer for everything from the neighbor's dog pooing on your lawn to drunken bar fights.
 Quoting: skittle


clappa

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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Re: School bus driver beaten to death after accidentally knocking off mirror on double-parked car
How is that drastic, there are enough cases to indicate that a punch often times results in death.
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Probably because the prisons are overcrowded enough and part of this is due to a populace that believes that imprisonment is the answer for everything from the neighbor's dog pooing on your lawn to drunken bar fights.
 Quoting: skittle


clappa
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Correct, so the solution is to make imprisonment only for violent crimes, and throwing a punch is a violent crime.
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I thought that I get everything. What is it that I am not getting?
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As one meme says:
I can explain it to you but I cannot understand it for you.
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Yeah ok Mr. Eye impersonator bwahahahahahaha!!
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06/24/2012 05:10 PM
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Re: School bus driver beaten to death after accidentally knocking off mirror on double-parked car
How is that drastic, there are enough cases to indicate that a punch often times results in death.
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Probably because the prisons are overcrowded enough and part of this is due to a populace that believes that imprisonment is the answer for everything from the neighbor's dog pooing on your lawn to drunken bar fights.
 Quoting: skittle



I am not saying attempted murder charges should apply to fights, I am saying attempted murder charges should apply to attacks. However, most "fights" are actually attacks, with one of the parties involved attacking, and the other individual defending themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18437190


Look.
The US already imprisons more people than any other country and there are very few people that have not been in at least one altercation during the course of their lives. If you feel so strongly that everyone that has ever exhibited any violence or active (read: violent) self protection should be imprisoned, then volunteer to build a wall around the entire country. Why? Because at the current rate of increase in incarceration in the states every single adult will be in prison in 2021..do the math, the stats are out there..start with wiki. When the curve of the graph is going nearly straight up from one year to the next when it comes to how many people are in prison, it's not a good sign. If you volunteer to build now you might get extra food at dinner time when you're officially incarcerated.
 Quoting: skittle




Send them all to australia,but first ask the british crown.
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Re: School bus driver beaten to death after accidentally knocking off mirror on double-parked car
How is that drastic, there are enough cases to indicate that a punch often times results in death.
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Probably because the prisons are overcrowded enough and part of this is due to a populace that believes that imprisonment is the answer for everything from the neighbor's dog pooing on your lawn to drunken bar fights.
 Quoting: skittle


clappa
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Correct, so the solution is to make imprisonment only for violent crimes, and throwing a punch is a violent crime.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18437190


Depending on the context....

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"

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