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Virgin Mary: The world has been turned upside down by paganism

 
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My children I call you all to join in prayer for the conversion of sinners and to continue your daily prayers.

Fasting will save so many souls and is a great Gift to my beloved Son.

So many people in the world have turned away from my Son.

How He weeps at this time. He loves them so much and it is heart breaking to watch, especially the disloyalty of those who accept that He is the true Son of God the Most High.

The world has been turned upside down by paganism. It has become a place of confusion, hatred, turmoil and unrest.


This is like the state of Hell, although nothing as terrifying or as painful. Yet the power of the evil one has created this hateful tension and it surrounds all of God’s children.

Few are left untouched by the venom which is being spread in every nation by the darkness. So many are blinded by this darkness and feel no hope.

Many who do not turn to God and continue along a path which brings them much unhappiness.

Those who love God, but pay little attention to Him through prayer, are just as helpless.

Only prayer, devotion and sacrifice can bring you close to God. Nothing else will bring you peace.

Pray, pray, pray for souls who idolise false gods. They are in much need of prayer at this time.

Pray for those tempted by the evil one who causes hardship to those under their control.

They have little time before The Confession, The Warning. When that day comes they must show humility when the truth is revealed to them.

My Son’s great plan to save much of humanity is about to be revealed to the world.

Many will not be saved.

This is why all His loving disciples have such a responsibility now to pray for conversion to save as many souls as possible.

Go in peace my children, comfortable in the knowledge that my Son is ever merciful.

He wants to save all and The Confession is the Gift He presents to the world to do this.

The Warning is the biggest Gift to humanity since His Death on the Cross.

Rejoice for many souls who would, otherwise have been tormented in Hell for eternity, can be saved and be given the Gift of Eternal Life.

Thank you for responding to this call from Heaven.

Your Beloved Mother of God

Mother of Salvation
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"Love one another. If your focus is only on self and how all things affect you, then you have abandoned God's Will for you."
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Re: Virgin Mary: The world has been turned upside down by paganism
The concept of "Mother of God" is pagan, as is Catholicism.
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Only prayer, devotion and sacrifice can bring you close to God. Nothing else will bring you peace.
 Quoting: PillBug



And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Matthew 6:7 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.


Pray, pray, pray for souls who idolise false gods. They are in much need of prayer at this time.
 Quoting: PillBug


So do not pray for this people nor offer any plea or petition for them; do not plead with me, for I will not listen to you. Do you not see what they are doing ... But am I the one they are provoking? declares the LORD. Are they not rather harming themselves, to their own shame? Jeremiah 7:19

... 15When you spread out your hands in prayer,I will hide my eyes from you;even if you offer many prayers,I will not listen.Your hands are full of blood;16wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight! Stop doing wrong, 17learn to do right! Seek justice, encourage the oppressed. Is 1


!! MARY CHECK THE BIBLE FIRST, PLEASE. You are spreading even more paganism.
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Only prayer, devotion and sacrifice can bring you close to God. Nothing else will bring you peace.
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And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Matthew 6:7 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.


Pray, pray, pray for souls who idolise false gods. They are in much need of prayer at this time.
 Quoting: PillBug


So do not pray for this people nor offer any plea or petition for them; do not plead with me, for I will not listen to you. Do you not see what they are doing ... But am I the one they are provoking? declares the LORD. Are they not rather harming themselves, to their own shame? Jeremiah 7:19

... 15When you spread out your hands in prayer,I will hide my eyes from you;even if you offer many prayers,I will not listen.Your hands are full of blood;16wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight! Stop doing wrong, 17learn to do right! Seek justice, encourage the oppressed. Is 1


!! MARY CHECK THE BIBLE FIRST, PLEASE. You are spreading even more paganism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326


I'm not if you understand the suffering you impose on people when you enforce your pride (I Know God you don't) on other people.

You lack humility in what you say. Pride is a sin. Stay far from this temptation and be little like a child.
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"Love one another. If your focus is only on self and how all things affect you, then you have abandoned God's Will for you."
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Only prayer, devotion and sacrifice can bring you close to God. Nothing else will bring you peace.
 Quoting: PillBug



And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Matthew 6:7 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.


Pray, pray, pray for souls who idolise false gods. They are in much need of prayer at this time.
 Quoting: PillBug


So do not pray for this people nor offer any plea or petition for them; do not plead with me, for I will not listen to you. Do you not see what they are doing ... But am I the one they are provoking? declares the LORD. Are they not rather harming themselves, to their own shame? Jeremiah 7:19

... 15When you spread out your hands in prayer,I will hide my eyes from you;even if you offer many prayers,I will not listen.Your hands are full of blood;16wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight! Stop doing wrong, 17learn to do right! Seek justice, encourage the oppressed. Is 1


!! MARY CHECK THE BIBLE FIRST, PLEASE. You are spreading even more paganism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326


I'm not if you understand the suffering you impose on people when you enforce your pride (I Know God you don't) on other people.

You lack humility in what you say. Pride is a sin. Stay far from this temptation and be little like a child.
 Quoting: PillBug


Pride?? ... I quoted the Father. Chose the side wisely.

Being child-like is needed for being born again. The words quoted are the Spirit you are to be born from.

Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:19

When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 1 Corinthians 13:11


Think about the biblical revelations - don´t bother with my salvation. I have my own relationship with God.
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Re: Virgin Mary: The world has been turned upside down by paganism
Read up on Norway pre-1300s with occupying Christians mass-genociding the inhabitants if they didn't renounce their ways to the Romans and subsequent occupying factors.
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Re: Virgin Mary: The world has been turned upside down by paganism
The Catholic worship of Mary is actually the reinvention of the worship of Ninharsag.

Yes, she is the "mother" of mankind so therefore also Jesus.

Get educated, it may actually make you calling things "paganism" have some merit.

Otherwise, continue with your hypocritical stance and labeling of others.
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Re: Virgin Mary: The world has been turned upside down by paganism
Please, as a Catholic I tell you to stop posting unapproved apparitions, especially ones as majorly wrong as this one.
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Only prayer, devotion and sacrifice can bring you close to God. Nothing else will bring you peace.
 Quoting: PillBug



And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Matthew 6:7 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.


Pray, pray, pray for souls who idolise false gods. They are in much need of prayer at this time.
 Quoting: PillBug


So do not pray for this people nor offer any plea or petition for them; do not plead with me, for I will not listen to you. Do you not see what they are doing ... But am I the one they are provoking? declares the LORD. Are they not rather harming themselves, to their own shame? Jeremiah 7:19

... 15When you spread out your hands in prayer,I will hide my eyes from you;even if you offer many prayers,I will not listen.Your hands are full of blood;16wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight! Stop doing wrong, 17learn to do right! Seek justice, encourage the oppressed. Is 1


!! MARY CHECK THE BIBLE FIRST, PLEASE. You are spreading even more paganism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326


I'm not if you understand the suffering you impose on people when you enforce your pride (I Know God you don't) on other people.

You lack humility in what you say. Pride is a sin. Stay far from this temptation and be little like a child.
 Quoting: PillBug


Pride?? ... I quoted the Father. Chose the side wisely.

Being child-like is needed for being born again. The words quoted are the Spirit you are to be born from.

Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:19

When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 1 Corinthians 13:11


Think about the biblical revelations - don´t bother with my salvation. I have my own relationship with God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326



Those commandments are incomplete, and have been revised hundreds of times by the hands of man.

Whose words to you worship? Mans, not Gods.
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Only prayer, devotion and sacrifice can bring you close to God. Nothing else will bring you peace.
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i thought only Jesus can bring you close to God
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And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Matthew 6:7 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.


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So do not pray for this people nor offer any plea or petition for them; do not plead with me, for I will not listen to you. Do you not see what they are doing ... But am I the one they are provoking? declares the LORD. Are they not rather harming themselves, to their own shame? Jeremiah 7:19

... 15When you spread out your hands in prayer,I will hide my eyes from you;even if you offer many prayers,I will not listen.Your hands are full of blood;16wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight! Stop doing wrong, 17learn to do right! Seek justice, encourage the oppressed. Is 1


!! MARY CHECK THE BIBLE FIRST, PLEASE. You are spreading even more paganism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326


I'm not if you understand the suffering you impose on people when you enforce your pride (I Know God you don't) on other people.

You lack humility in what you say. Pride is a sin. Stay far from this temptation and be little like a child.
 Quoting: PillBug


Pride?? ... I quoted the Father. Chose the side wisely.

Being child-like is needed for being born again. The words quoted are the Spirit you are to be born from.

Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:19

When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 1 Corinthians 13:11


Think about the biblical revelations - don´t bother with my salvation. I have my own relationship with God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326



Those commandments are incomplete, and have been revised hundreds of times by the hands of man.

Whose words to you worship? Mans, not Gods.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18268753



Your words, man

against the biblical ones. I choose the second.
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Re: Virgin Mary: The world has been turned upside down by paganism
Read up on Norway pre-1300s with occupying Christians mass-genociding the inhabitants if they didn't renounce their ways to the Romans and subsequent occupying factors.
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Not just Norway.. William the Bastard had the green light to subjugate England, impose Canon law and given a free hand in committing acts like the Harrowing of the North, Henry II got a similar green light to impose Gregorian law in Ireland..

and all the while the Church kept annulling any treaty that gave any semblance of freedom to anyone, like the Magna carter, the provisions of Oxford or the Mise of Lewes..

If it is deemed Pagan to oppose representatives of such brutality, then I proudly stand as a Pagan.
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Re: Virgin Mary: The world has been turned upside down by paganism
Catholicism = paganism is lame. A Protestant author took
his anti-Catholic book out of print when he realized similar things do not make them the same.

Pagans worshiped stars in the Heavens as a god. Jesus is
sometimes referred to as the Morning Star.

About Mary, people in 16th century history rejected Our Lord's mother to distance themselves from the faith, Catholicism.

You didn't. Do not follow their example. Christians would
find out about Mary later, Scripture is about Our Lord.
Believe the Marian Dogmas. Do not go with those who are prophesied to reject the 5th Marian Dogma.

I give a great example, the Dogma of the Immaculate Conception is in Scripture for Bible Alone believers.

The KJV has been changed for obvious reasons. Look to the
Douay-Rheims Bible. [link to www.drbo.org]

+ + +

Sharing #2.

3 Scriptural arguments for the Immaculate Conception of Mary.

See the link for the full article...


[link to cantuar.blogspot.com]

Argument #2
Mary as New Eve Having Enmity with Satan

Gen 3:15
"I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.."


In this verse God addresses Satan. The Seed here is Christ. The Woman is His Mother, that is, Mary. Thus Satan has perfect enmity with Christ and with His Mother. The Catholic Church has interpreted this as indicating the sinlessness of Christ and Mary. If either actually committed sin, then they would not be at enmity with Satan but actually a cooperator with Satan at times
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I'm not if you understand the suffering you impose on people when you enforce your pride (I Know God you don't) on other people.

You lack humility in what you say. Pride is a sin. Stay far from this temptation and be little like a child.
 Quoting: PillBug


Pride?? ... I quoted the Father. Chose the side wisely.

Being child-like is needed for being born again. The words quoted are the Spirit you are to be born from.

Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:19

When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 1 Corinthians 13:11


Think about the biblical revelations - don´t bother with my salvation. I have my own relationship with God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326



Those commandments are incomplete, and have been revised hundreds of times by the hands of man.

Whose words to you worship? Mans, not Gods.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18268753



Your words, man

against the biblical ones. I choose the second.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326




No actually, you are worshipping the words of man.

This is called reality little sheep, I hate to be the one to break it to you.....

But you worship a long dead Babylonian entity called El when you practice the Bible or the Torah or the Qu'Ran.

It pleases him greatly that you are so devote, just make sure you have a spare pair of undies when the bell tolls for you. You may be surprised at your "Fathers" face....
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This Virgin Mary is a demon.
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Pride?? ... I quoted the Father. Chose the side wisely.

Being child-like is needed for being born again. The words quoted are the Spirit you are to be born from.

Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:19

When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 1 Corinthians 13:11


Think about the biblical revelations - don´t bother with my salvation. I have my own relationship with God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326



Those commandments are incomplete, and have been revised hundreds of times by the hands of man.

Whose words to you worship? Mans, not Gods.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18268753



Your words, man

against the biblical ones. I choose the second.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326




No actually, you are worshipping the words of man.

This is called reality little sheep, I hate to be the one to break it to you.....

But you worship a long dead Babylonian entity called El when you practice the Bible or the Torah or the Qu'Ran.

It pleases him greatly that you are so devote, just make sure you have a spare pair of undies when the bell tolls for you. You may be surprised at your "Fathers" face....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18268753


You don´t know me. Do not shoot the messanger yet.

Neither the Bible. Better get literate.
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Re: Virgin Mary: The world has been turned upside down by paganism
Muhammad was not a very well informed theologian when he wrote the Koran.

Mohammed mistakenly thought that Mary was the third member of the Christian trinity.

"O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of God aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of God, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in God and His apostles. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for God is one God: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is God as a Disposer of affairs." (Koran 4:171)
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Oh,paganism is the problem? I thought it was greedy banksters, and corrupt politicians...Ha! How wrong I was!
Lets fight over some religious beliefs!!!Yes!
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Oh,paganism is the problem? I thought it was greedy banksters, and corrupt politicians...Ha! How wrong I was!
Lets fight over some religious beliefs!!!Yes!
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Banksters do commit idolatry.
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Oh,paganism is the problem? I thought it was greedy banksters, and corrupt politicians...Ha! How wrong I was!
Lets fight over some religious beliefs!!!Yes!
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Banksters do commit idolatry.
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Yes they worship money :)
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Re: Virgin Mary: The world has been turned upside down by paganism
In this verse God addresses Satan. The Seed here is Christ. The Woman is His Mother, that is, Mary. Thus Satan has perfect enmity with Christ and with His Mother. The Catholic Church has interpreted this as indicating the sinlessness of Christ and Mary. If either actually committed sin, then they would not be at enmity with Satan but actually a cooperator with Satan at times
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18549277


Jesus HIMSELF said that his mother was not to be worshiped. There is not better case of worship of a creation instead of the creator than this worship of Mary.
If Mary is EVE, then she committed sin. You cannot have all. Eve had not been redeemed as to now.

Now you say Eve is the mother of God. Are you really sure you are not worshiping Cain as God with all this XX.

What if God would stand up in the end with the so called pagans?
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No one worships Mary. That's a falsehood constantly spoken
by non-Catholic Christians. Jesus wants all Christians to
love and honor His mother, it please Him, makes Our Lord
very happy. Change and don't believe some of those old reformers.

Mary is the New Eve just as Jesus is the New Adam. Both, are sinless.

Yes, Mary is the mother of God. You accept the Incarnation,
Our Lord has two natures, He is fully human and fully God.
Can't separate His two natures.

Another baseless protest.


blessings to you, hf
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The concept of "Mother of God" is pagan, as is Catholicism.
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Yep
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In this verse God addresses Satan. The Seed here is Christ. The Woman is His Mother, that is, Mary. Thus Satan has perfect enmity with Christ and with His Mother. The Catholic Church has interpreted this as indicating the sinlessness of Christ and Mary. If either actually committed sin, then they would not be at enmity with Satan but actually a cooperator with Satan at times
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18549277


Jesus HIMSELF said that his mother was not to be worshiped. There is not better case of worship of a creation instead of the creator than this worship of Mary.
If Mary is EVE, then she committed sin. You cannot have all. Eve had not been redeemed as to now.

Now you say Eve is the mother of God. Are you really sure you are not worshiping Cain as God with all this XX.

What if God would stand up in the end with the so called pagans?
 Quoting: Sandrose


No one worships Mary. That's a falsehood constantly spoken
by non-Catholic Christians. Jesus wants all Christians to
love and honor His mother, it please Him, makes Our Lord
very happy. Change and don't believe some of those old reformers.

Mary is the New Eve just as Jesus is the New Adam. Both, are sinless.

Yes, Mary is the mother of God. You accept the Incarnation,
Our Lord has two natures, He is fully human and fully God.
Can't separate His two natures.

Another baseless protest.


blessings to you, hf
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You are HOPELESSLY indoctrinated by the Mother of Harlots. The Roman Catholic "church".
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Mary is the mother of God. You accept the Incarnation,
Our Lord has two natures, He is fully human and fully God.
Can't separate His two natures.

Another baseless protest.

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... flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 1 Corinthians 15:50

And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. Gen 6:3


The most important one," answered Jesus, is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Mark 12:29


Roman-catholicism goes against the biblical teachings of Jesus Christ. It´s called paganism. Which will be handled accordingly by God, I am sure of. Don´t stay pagan. Pagans are stupid, among others.
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Pride?? ... I quoted the Father. Chose the side wisely.

Being child-like is needed for being born again. The words quoted are the Spirit you are to be born from.

Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:19

When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 1 Corinthians 13:11


Think about the biblical revelations - don´t bother with my salvation. I have my own relationship with God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326



Those commandments are incomplete, and have been revised hundreds of times by the hands of man.

Whose words to you worship? Mans, not Gods.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18268753



Your words, man

against the biblical ones. I choose the second.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326




No actually, you are worshipping the words of man.

This is called reality little sheep, I hate to be the one to break it to you.....

But you worship a long dead Babylonian entity called El when you practice the Bible or the Torah or the Qu'Ran.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18268753


Those verses in Jeramiah are referring to God's anger
at the worship of false gods. A misinterpretation, why PIOS is heresy. Those people were worshiping the moon.
Mary is the Queen of Heaven, she is no God. In the OT the mother of the King is queen.

The author of "Babylon Mystery Religion" - one of the main, original sources alleging the "paganizing" of Catholicism from which *many* fundamentalist authors have drawn - changed his mind after learning the facts, displaying his intellectual honesty - his honest search for truth.

If the Protestant finds *more* faux "paganism" in Catholicism that is only because *they are missing so much of Christianity*. John notes in his gospel that Christ did and said many things that were not written down. Paul commands his subjects to obey the oral Tradition he gave them. Protestants, who reject oral Tradition, have no idea what these things are. (In fact, as is clear from any holistic reading, the epistles are "occasional" in nature, specifically *not* covering the important things all Christians knew and did, but only there errors and the things they did *wrong*. The facts from the documentation we have from the earliest Christian congregations is that they were Catholic in all respects - they celebrated Mass, they honored the mother of God, they prayed for their God; the seed at least of every Catholic doctrine and dogma was present since all originate with the apostles. The honest seeker of truth who examines the material available will realize these things, as Cardinal Newman did.)

I'll repeat one long quote from Rev. Woodrow:

"My reason for pulling the original book out of print was quite basic: Citing similarities between Catholic practices and pagan practices proves nothing if there is no actual connection. One could take virtually anything—even McDonald’s golden arches—and do the same: The Encyclopedia Americana (article: "arch") says the use of arches was known in Babylon as early as 2020 B.C. As Babylon was called "the golden city" (Is. 14:4, KJV), can there be any doubt about the origin of the golden arches? As silly as this is, this is the type of proof that has been offered again and again about the supposed pagan origins of the Catholic Church.

It is the same method atheists use in seeking to discredit the Bible and Christianity altogether—not just the Catholic Church. By this method, one also could condemn Protestant and Evangelical denominations such as the Assemblies of God, Baptist, Church of Christ, Lutheran, Methodist and Nazarene: Basic things such as prayer and kneeling in prayer would have to be rejected, as pagans knelt and prayed to their gods. Water baptism would have to be rejected, for pagans had numerous rites involving water. The list could go on and on.

By this method, even the Bible would have to be rejected as pagan. All of the following practices or beliefs mentioned in the Bible were also known among pagans: raising hands in worship, taking off shoes on holy ground, a holy mountain, a holy place in a temple, offering sacrifices without blemish, a sacred ark, a city of refuge, bringing forth water from a rock, laws written on stone, fire appearing on a person’s head, horses of fire, the offering of first fruits, and tithes.

By this method, the Lord himself would be pagan. The woman called Mystery Babylon had a cup in her hand; the Lord has a cup in his hand (Ps. 75:8). Pagan kings sat on thrones and wore crowns; the Lord sits on a throne and wears a crown (Rev. 1:4; 14:14). Pagans worshiped the sun; the Lord is the "sun of righteousness" (Mal. 4:2). Pagan gods were likened to stars; the Lord is called "the bright morning star" (Rev. 22:16). Pagan gods had temples dedicated to them; the Lord has a temple (Rev. 7:15). Pagan gods were pictured with wings; the Lord is pictured with wings (Ps. 91:4)."

18] The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire and the women knead the dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to offer libations to strange gods, and to provoke me to anger. [19] Do they provoke me to anger, saith the Lord? Is it not themselves, to the confusion of their contenance?

[18] Queen of heaven: That is, the moon, which they worshipped under that name.
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Re: Virgin Mary: The world has been turned upside down by paganism
Where in this message does She ask for people to worship Her?

All legit authentic Marian messages ask for people to follow Her Son Jesus and to turn back to God. She is an intercessor sent here by God to turn people back.

Obviously some get an F in reading comprehension, or they chose not to read the above message.

Until the Illumination (when everyone gets a mystical personal experience with Jesus) will those who scoff really understand what Mary's role is in this screwed up world.
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every true follower of Jesus Christ shall be crucified physically... and emotionally for exposing the truths in his words...

heaven and earth will pass away but my words will never pass away.

matthew 24:35

anything that contradicts the words of Jesus Christ shall pass away and so too shall the devils church and doctrin (NIV) with all their demi gods and saints
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