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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1090326 Germany 06/24/2012 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only prayer, devotion and sacrifice can bring you close to God. Nothing else will bring you peace. Quoting: PillBug And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Matthew 6:7 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. Pray, pray, pray for souls who idolise false gods. They are in much need of prayer at this time. Quoting: PillBug So do not pray for this people nor offer any plea or petition for them; do not plead with me, for I will not listen to you. Do you not see what they are doing ... But am I the one they are provoking? declares the LORD. Are they not rather harming themselves, to their own shame? Jeremiah 7:19 ... 15When you spread out your hands in prayer,I will hide my eyes from you;even if you offer many prayers,I will not listen.Your hands are full of blood;16wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight! Stop doing wrong, 17learn to do right! Seek justice, encourage the oppressed. Is 1 !! MARY CHECK THE BIBLE FIRST, PLEASE. You are spreading even more paganism. |
PillBug (OP) User ID: 6820061 United States 06/24/2012 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only prayer, devotion and sacrifice can bring you close to God. Nothing else will bring you peace. Quoting: PillBug And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Matthew 6:7 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. Pray, pray, pray for souls who idolise false gods. They are in much need of prayer at this time. Quoting: PillBug So do not pray for this people nor offer any plea or petition for them; do not plead with me, for I will not listen to you. Do you not see what they are doing ... But am I the one they are provoking? declares the LORD. Are they not rather harming themselves, to their own shame? Jeremiah 7:19 ... 15When you spread out your hands in prayer,I will hide my eyes from you;even if you offer many prayers,I will not listen.Your hands are full of blood;16wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight! Stop doing wrong, 17learn to do right! Seek justice, encourage the oppressed. Is 1 !! MARY CHECK THE BIBLE FIRST, PLEASE. You are spreading even more paganism. I'm not if you understand the suffering you impose on people when you enforce your pride (I Know God you don't) on other people. You lack humility in what you say. Pride is a sin. Stay far from this temptation and be little like a child. June 16, 2011 Public [link to www.holylove.org] "I am your Jesus, born Incarnate." "Love one another. If your focus is only on self and how all things affect you, then you have abandoned God's Will for you." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1090326 Germany 06/25/2012 04:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only prayer, devotion and sacrifice can bring you close to God. Nothing else will bring you peace. Quoting: PillBug And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Matthew 6:7 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. Pray, pray, pray for souls who idolise false gods. They are in much need of prayer at this time. Quoting: PillBug So do not pray for this people nor offer any plea or petition for them; do not plead with me, for I will not listen to you. Do you not see what they are doing ... But am I the one they are provoking? declares the LORD. Are they not rather harming themselves, to their own shame? Jeremiah 7:19 ... 15When you spread out your hands in prayer,I will hide my eyes from you;even if you offer many prayers,I will not listen.Your hands are full of blood;16wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight! Stop doing wrong, 17learn to do right! Seek justice, encourage the oppressed. Is 1 !! MARY CHECK THE BIBLE FIRST, PLEASE. You are spreading even more paganism. I'm not if you understand the suffering you impose on people when you enforce your pride (I Know God you don't) on other people. You lack humility in what you say. Pride is a sin. Stay far from this temptation and be little like a child. Pride?? ... I quoted the Father. Chose the side wisely. Being child-like is needed for being born again. The words quoted are the Spirit you are to be born from. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:19 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 1 Corinthians 13:11 Think about the biblical revelations - don´t bother with my salvation. I have my own relationship with God. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18268753 Hong Kong 06/25/2012 04:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Catholic worship of Mary is actually the reinvention of the worship of Ninharsag. Yes, she is the "mother" of mankind so therefore also Jesus. Get educated, it may actually make you calling things "paganism" have some merit. Otherwise, continue with your hypocritical stance and labeling of others. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18268753 Hong Kong 06/25/2012 04:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only prayer, devotion and sacrifice can bring you close to God. Nothing else will bring you peace. Quoting: PillBug And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Matthew 6:7 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. Pray, pray, pray for souls who idolise false gods. They are in much need of prayer at this time. Quoting: PillBug So do not pray for this people nor offer any plea or petition for them; do not plead with me, for I will not listen to you. Do you not see what they are doing ... But am I the one they are provoking? declares the LORD. Are they not rather harming themselves, to their own shame? Jeremiah 7:19 ... 15When you spread out your hands in prayer,I will hide my eyes from you;even if you offer many prayers,I will not listen.Your hands are full of blood;16wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight! Stop doing wrong, 17learn to do right! Seek justice, encourage the oppressed. Is 1 !! MARY CHECK THE BIBLE FIRST, PLEASE. You are spreading even more paganism. I'm not if you understand the suffering you impose on people when you enforce your pride (I Know God you don't) on other people. You lack humility in what you say. Pride is a sin. Stay far from this temptation and be little like a child. Pride?? ... I quoted the Father. Chose the side wisely. Being child-like is needed for being born again. The words quoted are the Spirit you are to be born from. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:19 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 1 Corinthians 13:11 Think about the biblical revelations - don´t bother with my salvation. I have my own relationship with God. Those commandments are incomplete, and have been revised hundreds of times by the hands of man. Whose words to you worship? Mans, not Gods. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1090326 Germany 06/25/2012 05:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Matthew 6:7 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him. ... So do not pray for this people nor offer any plea or petition for them; do not plead with me, for I will not listen to you. Do you not see what they are doing ... But am I the one they are provoking? declares the LORD. Are they not rather harming themselves, to their own shame? Jeremiah 7:19 ... 15When you spread out your hands in prayer,I will hide my eyes from you;even if you offer many prayers,I will not listen.Your hands are full of blood;16wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight! Stop doing wrong, 17learn to do right! Seek justice, encourage the oppressed. Is 1 !! MARY CHECK THE BIBLE FIRST, PLEASE. You are spreading even more paganism. I'm not if you understand the suffering you impose on people when you enforce your pride (I Know God you don't) on other people. You lack humility in what you say. Pride is a sin. Stay far from this temptation and be little like a child. Pride?? ... I quoted the Father. Chose the side wisely. Being child-like is needed for being born again. The words quoted are the Spirit you are to be born from. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:19 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 1 Corinthians 13:11 Think about the biblical revelations - don´t bother with my salvation. I have my own relationship with God. Those commandments are incomplete, and have been revised hundreds of times by the hands of man. Whose words to you worship? Mans, not Gods. Your words, man against the biblical ones. I choose the second. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18490641 United Kingdom 06/25/2012 05:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read up on Norway pre-1300s with occupying Christians mass-genociding the inhabitants if they didn't renounce their ways to the Romans and subsequent occupying factors. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17427249 Not just Norway.. William the Bastard had the green light to subjugate England, impose Canon law and given a free hand in committing acts like the Harrowing of the North, Henry II got a similar green light to impose Gregorian law in Ireland.. and all the while the Church kept annulling any treaty that gave any semblance of freedom to anyone, like the Magna carter, the provisions of Oxford or the Mise of Lewes.. If it is deemed Pagan to oppose representatives of such brutality, then I proudly stand as a Pagan. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18549277 United States 06/25/2012 05:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Catholicism = paganism is lame. A Protestant author took his anti-Catholic book out of print when he realized similar things do not make them the same. Pagans worshiped stars in the Heavens as a god. Jesus is sometimes referred to as the Morning Star. About Mary, people in 16th century history rejected Our Lord's mother to distance themselves from the faith, Catholicism. You didn't. Do not follow their example. Christians would find out about Mary later, Scripture is about Our Lord. Believe the Marian Dogmas. Do not go with those who are prophesied to reject the 5th Marian Dogma. I give a great example, the Dogma of the Immaculate Conception is in Scripture for Bible Alone believers. The KJV has been changed for obvious reasons. Look to the Douay-Rheims Bible. [link to www.drbo.org] + + + Sharing #2. 3 Scriptural arguments for the Immaculate Conception of Mary. See the link for the full article... [link to cantuar.blogspot.com] Argument #2 Mary as New Eve Having Enmity with Satan Gen 3:15 "I will put enmities between thee and the woman, and thy seed and her seed: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel.." In this verse God addresses Satan. The Seed here is Christ. The Woman is His Mother, that is, Mary. Thus Satan has perfect enmity with Christ and with His Mother. The Catholic Church has interpreted this as indicating the sinlessness of Christ and Mary. If either actually committed sin, then they would not be at enmity with Satan but actually a cooperator with Satan at times |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18268753 Hong Kong 06/25/2012 05:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: PillBug I'm not if you understand the suffering you impose on people when you enforce your pride (I Know God you don't) on other people. You lack humility in what you say. Pride is a sin. Stay far from this temptation and be little like a child. Pride?? ... I quoted the Father. Chose the side wisely. Being child-like is needed for being born again. The words quoted are the Spirit you are to be born from. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:19 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 1 Corinthians 13:11 Think about the biblical revelations - don´t bother with my salvation. I have my own relationship with God. Those commandments are incomplete, and have been revised hundreds of times by the hands of man. Whose words to you worship? Mans, not Gods. Your words, man against the biblical ones. I choose the second. No actually, you are worshipping the words of man. This is called reality little sheep, I hate to be the one to break it to you..... But you worship a long dead Babylonian entity called El when you practice the Bible or the Torah or the Qu'Ran. It pleases him greatly that you are so devote, just make sure you have a spare pair of undies when the bell tolls for you. You may be surprised at your "Fathers" face.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1090326 Germany 06/25/2012 05:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326 Pride?? ... I quoted the Father. Chose the side wisely. Being child-like is needed for being born again. The words quoted are the Spirit you are to be born from. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:19 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 1 Corinthians 13:11 Think about the biblical revelations - don´t bother with my salvation. I have my own relationship with God. Those commandments are incomplete, and have been revised hundreds of times by the hands of man. Whose words to you worship? Mans, not Gods. Your words, man against the biblical ones. I choose the second. No actually, you are worshipping the words of man. This is called reality little sheep, I hate to be the one to break it to you..... But you worship a long dead Babylonian entity called El when you practice the Bible or the Torah or the Qu'Ran. It pleases him greatly that you are so devote, just make sure you have a spare pair of undies when the bell tolls for you. You may be surprised at your "Fathers" face.... You don´t know me. Do not shoot the messanger yet. Neither the Bible. Better get literate. |
Cat person User ID: 18456325 United States 06/25/2012 05:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Muhammad was not a very well informed theologian when he wrote the Koran. Mohammed mistakenly thought that Mary was the third member of the Christian trinity. "O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of God aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of God, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in God and His apostles. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for God is one God: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is God as a Disposer of affairs." (Koran 4:171) [link to www.bible.ca] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18549277 United States 06/25/2012 05:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In this verse God addresses Satan. The Seed here is Christ. The Woman is His Mother, that is, Mary. Thus Satan has perfect enmity with Christ and with His Mother. The Catholic Church has interpreted this as indicating the sinlessness of Christ and Mary. If either actually committed sin, then they would not be at enmity with Satan but actually a cooperator with Satan at times Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18549277 Jesus HIMSELF said that his mother was not to be worshiped. There is not better case of worship of a creation instead of the creator than this worship of Mary. If Mary is EVE, then she committed sin. You cannot have all. Eve had not been redeemed as to now. Now you say Eve is the mother of God. Are you really sure you are not worshiping Cain as God with all this XX. What if God would stand up in the end with the so called pagans? No one worships Mary. That's a falsehood constantly spoken by non-Catholic Christians. Jesus wants all Christians to love and honor His mother, it please Him, makes Our Lord very happy. Change and don't believe some of those old reformers. Mary is the New Eve just as Jesus is the New Adam. Both, are sinless. Yes, Mary is the mother of God. You accept the Incarnation, Our Lord has two natures, He is fully human and fully God. Can't separate His two natures. Another baseless protest. blessings to you, |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18530931 United States 06/25/2012 05:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In this verse God addresses Satan. The Seed here is Christ. The Woman is His Mother, that is, Mary. Thus Satan has perfect enmity with Christ and with His Mother. The Catholic Church has interpreted this as indicating the sinlessness of Christ and Mary. If either actually committed sin, then they would not be at enmity with Satan but actually a cooperator with Satan at times Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18549277 Jesus HIMSELF said that his mother was not to be worshiped. There is not better case of worship of a creation instead of the creator than this worship of Mary. If Mary is EVE, then she committed sin. You cannot have all. Eve had not been redeemed as to now. Now you say Eve is the mother of God. Are you really sure you are not worshiping Cain as God with all this XX. What if God would stand up in the end with the so called pagans? No one worships Mary. That's a falsehood constantly spoken by non-Catholic Christians. Jesus wants all Christians to love and honor His mother, it please Him, makes Our Lord very happy. Change and don't believe some of those old reformers. Mary is the New Eve just as Jesus is the New Adam. Both, are sinless. Yes, Mary is the mother of God. You accept the Incarnation, Our Lord has two natures, He is fully human and fully God. Can't separate His two natures. Another baseless protest. blessings to you, You are HOPELESSLY indoctrinated by the Mother of Harlots. The Roman Catholic "church". |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1090326 Germany 06/25/2012 05:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mary is the mother of God. You accept the Incarnation, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18549277 Our Lord has two natures, He is fully human and fully God. Can't separate His two natures. Another baseless protest. ... flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 1 Corinthians 15:50 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. Gen 6:3 The most important one," answered Jesus, is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Mark 12:29 Roman-catholicism goes against the biblical teachings of Jesus Christ. It´s called paganism. Which will be handled accordingly by God, I am sure of. Don´t stay pagan. Pagans are stupid, among others. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18549277 United States 06/25/2012 06:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326 Pride?? ... I quoted the Father. Chose the side wisely. Being child-like is needed for being born again. The words quoted are the Spirit you are to be born from. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:19 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 1 Corinthians 13:11 Think about the biblical revelations - don´t bother with my salvation. I have my own relationship with God. Those commandments are incomplete, and have been revised hundreds of times by the hands of man. Whose words to you worship? Mans, not Gods. Your words, man against the biblical ones. I choose the second. No actually, you are worshipping the words of man. This is called reality little sheep, I hate to be the one to break it to you..... But you worship a long dead Babylonian entity called El when you practice the Bible or the Torah or the Qu'Ran. Those verses in Jeramiah are referring to God's anger at the worship of false gods. A misinterpretation, why PIOS is heresy. Those people were worshiping the moon. Mary is the Queen of Heaven, she is no God. In the OT the mother of the King is queen. The author of "Babylon Mystery Religion" - one of the main, original sources alleging the "paganizing" of Catholicism from which *many* fundamentalist authors have drawn - changed his mind after learning the facts, displaying his intellectual honesty - his honest search for truth. If the Protestant finds *more* faux "paganism" in Catholicism that is only because *they are missing so much of Christianity*. John notes in his gospel that Christ did and said many things that were not written down. Paul commands his subjects to obey the oral Tradition he gave them. Protestants, who reject oral Tradition, have no idea what these things are. (In fact, as is clear from any holistic reading, the epistles are "occasional" in nature, specifically *not* covering the important things all Christians knew and did, but only there errors and the things they did *wrong*. The facts from the documentation we have from the earliest Christian congregations is that they were Catholic in all respects - they celebrated Mass, they honored the mother of God, they prayed for their God; the seed at least of every Catholic doctrine and dogma was present since all originate with the apostles. The honest seeker of truth who examines the material available will realize these things, as Cardinal Newman did.) I'll repeat one long quote from Rev. Woodrow: "My reason for pulling the original book out of print was quite basic: Citing similarities between Catholic practices and pagan practices proves nothing if there is no actual connection. One could take virtually anything—even McDonald’s golden arches—and do the same: The Encyclopedia Americana (article: "arch") says the use of arches was known in Babylon as early as 2020 B.C. As Babylon was called "the golden city" (Is. 14:4, KJV), can there be any doubt about the origin of the golden arches? As silly as this is, this is the type of proof that has been offered again and again about the supposed pagan origins of the Catholic Church. It is the same method atheists use in seeking to discredit the Bible and Christianity altogether—not just the Catholic Church. By this method, one also could condemn Protestant and Evangelical denominations such as the Assemblies of God, Baptist, Church of Christ, Lutheran, Methodist and Nazarene: Basic things such as prayer and kneeling in prayer would have to be rejected, as pagans knelt and prayed to their gods. Water baptism would have to be rejected, for pagans had numerous rites involving water. The list could go on and on. By this method, even the Bible would have to be rejected as pagan. All of the following practices or beliefs mentioned in the Bible were also known among pagans: raising hands in worship, taking off shoes on holy ground, a holy mountain, a holy place in a temple, offering sacrifices without blemish, a sacred ark, a city of refuge, bringing forth water from a rock, laws written on stone, fire appearing on a person’s head, horses of fire, the offering of first fruits, and tithes. By this method, the Lord himself would be pagan. The woman called Mystery Babylon had a cup in her hand; the Lord has a cup in his hand (Ps. 75:8). Pagan kings sat on thrones and wore crowns; the Lord sits on a throne and wears a crown (Rev. 1:4; 14:14). Pagans worshiped the sun; the Lord is the "sun of righteousness" (Mal. 4:2). Pagan gods were likened to stars; the Lord is called "the bright morning star" (Rev. 22:16). Pagan gods had temples dedicated to them; the Lord has a temple (Rev. 7:15). Pagan gods were pictured with wings; the Lord is pictured with wings (Ps. 91:4)." 18] The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire and the women knead the dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to offer libations to strange gods, and to provoke me to anger. [19] Do they provoke me to anger, saith the Lord? Is it not themselves, to the confusion of their contenance? [18] Queen of heaven: That is, the moon, which they worshipped under that name. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19086012 United States 07/06/2012 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All legit authentic Marian messages ask for people to follow Her Son Jesus and to turn back to God. She is an intercessor sent here by God to turn people back. Obviously some get an F in reading comprehension, or they chose not to read the above message. Until the Illumination (when everyone gets a mystical personal experience with Jesus) will those who scoff really understand what Mary's role is in this screwed up world. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13918055 United States 07/07/2012 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | every true follower of Jesus Christ shall be crucified physically... and emotionally for exposing the truths in his words... heaven and earth will pass away but my words will never pass away. matthew 24:35 anything that contradicts the words of Jesus Christ shall pass away and so too shall the devils church and doctrin (NIV) with all their demi gods and saints |
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