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IT'S OVER!!! Mexican presidential candidates say they will stop the war on drug cartels.

 
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The sheeple is going to buy cocaine, crack, heroine and all sorts of mind-fuck drugs, in groceries, in the bakery, even in the mall. It will be socially accepted, the intellectual level will drop to -20 and there will be an army of sorry-ass dope-head zombies walking in the streets.

Idol1 win big time!
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let me ask you, if all drugs were legal would you start taking them? if the answer is no then your post is ridiculous.
people who take drugs are going to take drugs no matter who supplies them and people who don't take drugs will never just because they're legal.prohibition is what causes drug violence.take away the drug market by legalizing drugs and drug violence will stop.would you rather have innocent children being slaughtered in gang violence and drive by shootings or having a neighbor that gets high.if the gov't sold drugs they could regulate it like tobacco or alcohol.would you rather have your kid buy from the gov't when they're of age and decide to do so or have some gang member or dealer selling to your 10 year old.
it's time we smartened up and put our priorities in order
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Most of what you say is true, just one thing that bothers me.

cigarettes/ tobacco and alcohol is legal in Ireland as we all know, We go to a shop and make our purchase RIGHT?

WRONG, I and a lot of people I know buy our tobacco and cigarettes from street dealers that bring the stuff in from eastern europe. I refuse to pay my government 9.60 for a pack of smokes. I buy them from abroad. The same goes for vodka, a bottle could cost 27 euro and I buy it from a street dealer for half that.

weather they legalise drugs or not, there will always be a black market as the people in control of our countries are greedy fucking pigs. They keep uping the price every year. They say the increase is because of the young people, the price will discourage them from buying.

More young people smoke and drink more than they ever did,

I am happy buying my weed on the street, if they legalise it, the price will rise by 400%.
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That hasn't happened here in the United States with several states implementing medical marijuana. The prices in the state authorized medical dispensaries are quite modest and on part with your 'average' street prices, only the bud being sold at these dispensaries is some of the best and highest grade stuff available in our country. This one dispensary in Colorado was selling grams of high grade bud for $12! Eighths from anywhere from $30-50, etc etc....
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If that were the case I would love for it to be legalised, but in this country, not a chance it would happen. like I said about smokes and alcohol, they say young people are buying so price goes up and up gradually. Its a pity really
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Legalize the drugs and put them out of business. Damn government types can figure shit out.
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exactly, it would put every single drug dealer out of business.

give everyone freedom and not live 'underground'
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There will always be a black market,
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If that will be the case, then the cartels have won and will continue do what they'll do at best: hacking up and killing people, spreading turf wars, and corrupting local officials.

Mexico is a FAILED state.


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True: Mexico is a FAILED state;

Then it is time to try another one.
If Mexico is failed in it´s governance, then
it is also in it´s people; then it is failed
also in it´s people radicated in the USA.
10% of mexican people migrated to the USA, es-
caping from poorness and desaster; so, there
has to be someone to invent new ways to mexi-
cans (mexicans in Mexico, and mexicans in the
USA).

The actual new elections in Mexico, is the
same Menu; it is the same soup; it is time to
invent a new Mexico.

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Sorry vato, you CANNOT reboot a nation without cleaning it up and putting the garbage out FIRST.
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it seems like the US uses its drones all over the world to take out bad guys... why not in Mexico?
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Are people really doing billions of drugs a year or is something bigger going on here?
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You have to understand that most cocaine used in North America comes from Mexico.
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If most cocaine in North America comes from Mexico,
does not means it is grown and produced in Mexico.
It comes from South America; packed in Central America,
and financed in North America. That means all of them are
playing the fool with Mexico, and geting it all.
Basicly, Mexcio has become the perfect victim of them
all; ¿Could Mexico faith all of them? ¿Would Mexico breake
relations with them all? ¿Can Mexico even protest to them
all, because intervention and crime moves? No.

Actualy, the country has become in a state of parali-
sis, finding no answers.

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One thing that bothers me is the amount of money the drug cartels seem to pull in.

Who the fuck is doing all of these drugs?
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¿Who the fuck is doing all of these drugs?
Answers:

.- Your foundations politicians.
.- Your neithbors.
.- Your militars.
.- Your ancestors.
.- Your bankers.
.- Your etc. etc. etc.

Every one is, including you.

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damned damned damned

How disappointing! I always thought I would be a little happier than this if I was doing drugs. Damn....
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Re: IT'S OVER!!! Mexican presidential candidates say they will stop the war on drug cartels.
Most presidential candidates in Mexico claim that a tough war on drug cartels "is not the solution". You know what it means...

(CNN) -- With just a few weeks before Mexico's July 1 presidential election, the candidates' campaigns have been mostly driven by personalities and vague promises. Yet some policy glimpses have emerged, particularly in the security realm.

All the candidates have pledged a major shift, making violence reduction a priority over President Felipe Calderón's war on narcotraffickers, which has been carried out with U.S. cooperation. Front-runner Enrique Peña Nieto told The New York Times recently that he would focus on reducing homicide rates and not on catching cartel leaders.

It is not just Peña Nieto endorsing this approach. Calderón's own National Action Party candidate Josefina Vázquez Mota promises on her website that "results will be measured not by how many criminals are captured, but by how stable and secure the communities are."
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Mexico is 110% controlled by drug lords and the next president is just going to make it official and constitutional.
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Don't forget also how much the US of CIA drug cartels are part of the picture.
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It does not matter to the cia or us government weather to legalise drugs. so many Americans are already dependent on a legal type of drugs anyway, Look at the big pharma.
The CIA etc have flooded the united states street for years with heroin and coke etc. They're job would be so much easier if it was legalised.
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This will greatly effect the US job market...

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Legalize the drugs and put them out of business. Damn government types can figure shit out.
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exactly, it would put every single drug dealer out of business.

give everyone freedom and not live 'underground'
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There will always be a black market,
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black market for what


heroin grows in poppies i think its papavier somniferum? not sure about spelling

cocain well that again grows in a plant

and cannabis yet another plant..

do i need to go on, if the plants are legal and anyone could grow them, why would there be a black market?
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The PRI party is controlled by the Sinaloa cartel trust me i know. One thing is clear is that there was only one man after Calderon that was serious about ending the drug trade that was Colosio and he was shot by the Gulf cartel via the Zetas. The United states CIA has armed the Sinaloa cartel to battle the Zetas because the violence has escalated and that puts authorities on alert and hinders the drugs being smuggled. The guns that appeared in mexico were from US drug busts by the DEA and ATF that were supposed to be destroyed but were sent in to help Guzman. The Sinaloa cartel is the less violent of the two groups just killing each other off and not civilians like the Zetas. The only real way to end the war in mexico is to let citizens in mexico carry openly and fight back just like Los Pepes did in South america when Escobar was there that sent him running and eventually got him killed.
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clappa



Finally the Mexican authorities will stop this senseless and endless war.
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if you believe that I hav a nice bridge in San Francisco to sell you - cheap!
mexicans are too stupid, craven, lazy and corrupt to do a thing about anything except having ankors and trying to sneak into America
look at their country! America and mexico were wildernesses at the same time and they are a shithole and we are awesome thanks to guts, patriots and hard work
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Are people really doing billions of drugs a year or is something bigger going on here?
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You have to understand that most cocaine used in North America comes from Mexico.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18296291


------------------------------------------------------------


If most cocaine in North America comes from Mexico,
does not means it is grown and produced in Mexico.
It comes from South America; packed in Central America,
and financed in North America. That means all of them are
playing the fool with Mexico, and geting it all.
Basicly, Mexcio has become the perfect victim of them
all; ¿Could Mexico faith all of them? ¿Would Mexico breake
relations with them all? ¿Can Mexico even protest to them
all, because intervention and crime moves? No.

Actualy, the country has become in a state of parali-
sis, finding no answers.

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some good points you make there and i doubt they are at all inaccurate.

there is only one way out of this and thats to remove the problem.

if certain drugs were not singled out of thousands because they are highly profitable on a black market, then there would be no black market for them.

mexico is just being used like a hoar and its not good or on at all.
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Ah, so the North American Union will be the US, Canada, and a consortium of drug cartels... Kewl.
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If they stop the war on drugs; Mexico might as well legalize drugs!!
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Legalize the drugs and put them out of business. Damn government types can figure shit out.
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exactly, it would put every single drug dealer out of business.

give everyone freedom and not live 'underground'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18579461


There will always be a black market,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11793856


black market for what


heroin grows in poppies i think its papavier somniferum? not sure about spelling

cocain well that again grows in a plant

and cannabis yet another plant..

do i need to go on, if the plants are legal and anyone could grow them, why would there be a black market?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18579461


you think people will be allowed to just grow their own weed, coke, heroin plants?

it would need to be regulated and controlled.
We wouldn't want bad batches of drugs on the streets!

It would be controlled the same way as they control medical marijuana in some states in the US.

cigarettes and alcohol are legal in Ireland, you can purchase them in most shops.

The black market for cigarettes and alcohol in Ireland is huge. Why do you think that is?

The government controls the price and the price is unaffordable, the same would be introduced for Weed, coke etc.

it aint as easy as ''just grow your own''

Do you know how speed, meth, coke, heroin etc are manufactured. Its not just as simple as just grow it and take it.

The drugs would be legalised but would still be controlled and regulated no matter what.

Food is legal, but I cant just make something and sell it, as food safety, regulations kick in etc
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If they stop the war on drugs; Mexico might as well legalize drugs!!
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mexico will go down in history as having solved the long standing drug problem...


mr mexico if your reading this, do it.

you will not regret it and will be liked by the population of the entire world, once they see how everything starts to resolve itself naturally when the artificial governing of drugs ends.
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So legalize pot and double the penalties on the sale of cocaine and heroin. Burn the fields in Afghanistan, or allow them to use the opiates for generic priced medical grade opiates so we don't have an item on our hospital bill that says AMA Authorized Pain Medicine $3293.87 on the laundry list that adds up to $75,000 for a common procedure.

Or don't do that.
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exactly, it would put every single drug dealer out of business.

give everyone freedom and not live 'underground'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18579461


There will always be a black market,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11793856


black market for what


heroin grows in poppies i think its papavier somniferum? not sure about spelling

cocain well that again grows in a plant

and cannabis yet another plant..

do i need to go on, if the plants are legal and anyone could grow them, why would there be a black market?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18579461


you think people will be allowed to just grow their own weed, coke, heroin plants? - yes i do

it would need to be regulated and controlled.
We wouldn't want bad batches of drugs on the streets! - no need to regulate and control somehting your growing yourself

It would be controlled the same way as they control medical marijuana in some states in the US. - N/A

cigarettes and alcohol are legal in Ireland, you can purchase them in most shops. - and there are people who grow and make both tobacco and alcohol and the practices are gaining popularity

The black market for cigarettes and alcohol in Ireland is huge. Why do you think that is? because its regulated and taxed heavily, supposedly to curb its use due to health concerns, but in reality its to simply make money and the health concerns are contrived to do so.

The government controls the price and the price is unaffordable, the same would be introduced for Weed, coke etc. - does the gov control the price of you dandelion or st johns wort ?

it aint as easy as ''just grow your own'' - its easy if you know how, besides nature didnt need any help since the dawn of time.

Do you know how speed, meth, coke, heroin etc are manufactured. Its not just as simple as just grow it and take it. - yes im pretty well informed on how each drug is made, and i can tell you for a fact each plant of each drug can be used raw, and there would be no market for synthetics.

The drugs would be legalised but would still be controlled and regulated no matter what. - i dont think theres any evidence for that, but it would probably creep in as someone tries to control it for the pure purpose of making money and putting it back to where it is now

Food is legal, but I cant just make something and sell it, as food safety, regulations kick in etc - why would selling the drugs be relevant?
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Just curious.. what would happen if they made the drug trade legal?
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There would still be lots of bloodshed in Mexico because you have the main cartels & the Zetas continually vying for control of the major smuggling routes and territory within the country.
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Whether drugs are legal or not, it won't make any difference to the violence. Take the drugs away, still left with violence for the sake of it. I watched a Channel 4 interview with a Mexican gangster who was laughing & bragging how he tortured his victims, his face hidden, but very 'chilling' interview. Then I saw the Mexican chainsaw beheading.. realizing that fact.. that 'anyone' actually capable of doing that to another human being or even an animal are just born to be ruthless & violent.. so would have gone killing & torturing with or without drugs. Men & Women just get a crazed addiction to committing crime & violence. That's it!
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Legalize the drugs and put them out of business. Damn government types can figure shit out.
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exactly, it would put every single drug dealer out of business.

give everyone freedom and not live 'underground'
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18579461


There will always be a black market,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11793856


black market for what


heroin grows in poppies i think its papavier somniferum? not sure about spelling

cocain well that again grows in a plant

and cannabis yet another plant..

do i need to go on, if the plants are legal and anyone could grow them, why would there be a black market?
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Someone with common sense :)
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So legalize pot and double the penalties on the sale of cocaine and heroin. Burn the fields in Afghanistan, or allow them to use the opiates for generic priced medical grade opiates so we don't have an item on our hospital bill that says AMA Authorized Pain Medicine $3293.87 on the laundry list that adds up to $75,000 for a common procedure.

Or don't do that.
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Someone simply needs to destroy the fields in Afghanistan with a 'smart' bio or chemical weapon, making sure that the stuff can't even grow ever again anymore.. but without harming other plants, humans or life.

Just legalize the weed, mdma (been trying that lately.. wow! great stuff..! way better than an E..!' let people chill out on drugs.. except heroin or cocaine. I tried Cocaine.. but it's not for me. Felt light & light headed.. calm.. but it didn't feel right.. so refused anymore. I LOVE.. Dutch Skunk!
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The "war" on drugs is a waste of tax payers money. It's obviously useless and we need to get rid of it.

Also, the only one smuggling drug into the States are the fucks with their privates jets. You know, the rich fucks.

Mostly jewish people and the CIA and other govt officials. Heck, they have their own poppy fields in Afghanistan.... Our soldiers are doing a great job protecting those fields.
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So legalize pot and double the penalties on the sale of cocaine and heroin. Burn the fields in Afghanistan, or allow them to use the opiates for generic priced medical grade opiates so we don't have an item on our hospital bill that says AMA Authorized Pain Medicine $3293.87 on the laundry list that adds up to $75,000 for a common procedure.

Or don't do that.
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Someone simply needs to destroy the fields in Afghanistan with a 'smart' bio or chemical weapon, making sure that the stuff can't even grow ever again anymore.. but without harming other plants, humans or life.

Just legalize the weed, mdma (been trying that lately.. wow! great stuff..! way better than an E..!' let people chill out on drugs.. except heroin or cocaine. I tried Cocaine.. but it's not for me. Felt light & light headed.. calm.. but it didn't feel right.. so refused anymore. I LOVE.. Dutch Skunk!
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spock

The Russkies have already developed a pathogen that attacks Papaver Somniferum. And while a good thought, we've seen what happens with Monsanto....I don't want to go that direction. I'd rather just give out free heroin and let Darwin sort it out.
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One thing that bothers me is the amount of money the drug cartels seem to pull in.

Who the fuck is doing all of these drugs?
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So legalize pot and double the penalties on the sale of cocaine and heroin. Burn the fields in Afghanistan, or allow them to use the opiates for generic priced medical grade opiates so we don't have an item on our hospital bill that says AMA Authorized Pain Medicine $3293.87 on the laundry list that adds up to $75,000 for a common procedure.

Or don't do that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364318


Someone simply needs to destroy the fields in Afghanistan with a 'smart' bio or chemical weapon, making sure that the stuff can't even grow ever again anymore.. but without harming other plants, humans or life.

Just legalize the weed, mdma (been trying that lately.. wow! great stuff..! way better than an E..!' let people chill out on drugs.. except heroin or cocaine. I tried Cocaine.. but it's not for me. Felt light & light headed.. calm.. but it didn't feel right.. so refused anymore. I LOVE.. Dutch Skunk!
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spock
Thought E was MDMA
The Russkies have already developed a pathogen that attacks Papaver Somniferum. And while a good thought, we've seen what happens with Monsanto....I don't want to go that direction. I'd rather just give out free heroin and let Darwin sort it out.
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I thought E was MDMA

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Most presidential candidates in Mexico claim that a tough war on drug cartels "is not the solution". You know what it means...

(CNN) -- With just a few weeks before Mexico's July 1 presidential election, the candidates' campaigns have been mostly driven by personalities and vague promises. Yet some policy glimpses have emerged, particularly in the security realm.

All the candidates have pledged a major shift, making violence reduction a priority over President Felipe Calderón's war on narcotraffickers, which has been carried out with U.S. cooperation. Front-runner Enrique Peña Nieto told The New York Times recently that he would focus on reducing homicide rates and not on catching cartel leaders.

It is not just Peña Nieto endorsing this approach. Calderón's own National Action Party candidate Josefina Vázquez Mota promises on her website that "results will be measured not by how many criminals are captured, but by how stable and secure the communities are."
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Mexico is 110% controlled by drug lords and the next president is just going to make it official and constitutional.
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Good luck, they are going to need it.
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Not so quick sport!! If Obama is reelected I see a new nation in formation: The United States of Amexico.
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lol, probably.
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The drug war is here so our politicians can make money from drugs. If they are devriminalized then you are taking away their income...
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So legalize pot and double the penalties on the sale of cocaine and heroin. Burn the fields in Afghanistan, or allow them to use the opiates for generic priced medical grade opiates so we don't have an item on our hospital bill that says AMA Authorized Pain Medicine $3293.87 on the laundry list that adds up to $75,000 for a common procedure.

Or don't do that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364318


Someone simply needs to destroy the fields in Afghanistan with a 'smart' bio or chemical weapon, making sure that the stuff can't even grow ever again anymore.. but without harming other plants, humans or life.

Just legalize the weed, mdma (been trying that lately.. wow! great stuff..! way better than an E..!' let people chill out on drugs.. except heroin or cocaine. I tried Cocaine.. but it's not for me. Felt light & light headed.. calm.. but it didn't feel right.. so refused anymore. I LOVE.. Dutch Skunk!
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spock

The Russkies have already developed a pathogen that attacks Papaver Somniferum. And while a good thought, we've seen what happens with Monsanto....I don't want to go that direction. I'd rather just give out free heroin and let Darwin sort it out.
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Didn't know that..! but yeah.. you have a point.. but heroin isn't even natural.. it's man made from Opium. I've never understood why Opium and/or is it morhine..? is turned into Heroin. I've had morphine for a couple of days after surgery to kill pain.. which is does!! but I did feel rather pleasant on it, but not capable of doing anything right. Trying to draw a map to my parents of my new flat was a disaster.. took ages.. lol.. lots of childish scribbles.. 'well.. you turn in this.. no..ang on.. if you.. umm..' I was confused! lol..

Even our Queen Victoria used to take drugs, opium & weed. Watching a BBC doc, on how Britain conquered Hong Kong.. cos the Chinese wouldn't trade tea for opium. Us Brits finally got the Chinese hooked on Opium, & the Chinese got their own back.. by making us addicted to their tea & Chinese take-aways.
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Re: IT'S OVER!!! Mexican presidential candidates say they will stop the war on drug cartels.
So legalize pot and double the penalties on the sale of cocaine and heroin. Burn the fields in Afghanistan, or allow them to use the opiates for generic priced medical grade opiates so we don't have an item on our hospital bill that says AMA Authorized Pain Medicine $3293.87 on the laundry list that adds up to $75,000 for a common procedure.

Or don't do that.
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Someone simply needs to destroy the fields in Afghanistan with a 'smart' bio or chemical weapon, making sure that the stuff can't even grow ever again anymore.. but without harming other plants, humans or life.

Just legalize the weed, mdma (been trying that lately.. wow! great stuff..! way better than an E..!' let people chill out on drugs.. except heroin or cocaine. I tried Cocaine.. but it's not for me. Felt light & light headed.. calm.. but it didn't feel right.. so refused anymore. I LOVE.. Dutch Skunk!
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spock
Thought E was MDMA
The Russkies have already developed a pathogen that attacks Papaver Somniferum. And while a good thought, we've seen what happens with Monsanto....I don't want to go that direction. I'd rather just give out free heroin and let Darwin sort it out.
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I thought E was MDMA
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E is mdma.. but mdma in pure crystal form with a drink is much better. It's hard to trust someone who deals E's as one doesn't know what 'else' might be crushed into a pill. I took some excellent E's at raves back in the 90s.. but mdma in it's pure form is.. mmmm.. pretty good 'feeling.'
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exactly, it would put every single drug dealer out of business.

give everyone freedom and not live 'underground'
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There will always be a black market,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11793856


black market for what


heroin grows in poppies i think its papavier somniferum? not sure about spelling

cocain well that again grows in a plant

and cannabis yet another plant..

do i need to go on, if the plants are legal and anyone could grow them, why would there be a black market?
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Someone with common sense :)
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There will always be a black market because governments will always say some things are good and some are bad because we say so.

And because governments want to tax, control and regulate everything in human affairs.

Some people don't like everything being taxed, regulated and controlled so there will ALWAYS be a black market.


The black market is essentially the real market.





GLP