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The Witness Of Christ: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven..."

 
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The Witness Of Christ: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven..."
From Matthew ch 7:

21. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23. And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


HIS same Witness, expounded upon a bit In Luke 13:

23. Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
24. Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
25. When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
26. Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
27. But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
28. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.


Same Witness again in Matthew 22, The Parable of The King's Wedding Feast For HIS SON...

Similar Witness in Matthew 13:11-17

All about KNOWING HIM, KNOWING The Father...

HE Gave HIS Life To Enable You...
To Enable You To Come Unto The Father.

"Marvel not that I say unto you, ye Must Be Born-Again!" John 3:7

"I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6



Are you Born-Again?
Do you Know The Father, Have you Been IN HIS Presence and made your surrender? Given up your life Unto The Father, Trusting HIM and HIS Will Fully and Completely Knowing that God Loves you more and Wants More for you than you will ever imagine asking for yourself?

Got to have HIS Wedding Garment.
You MUST Be Born-Again, IF you would Abide IN-HIM With The Father...

Soon, The Age Of Faith will be concluded.
No more will anyone be able to Come Unto The Father by Faith In Christ.


If you would Be HIS, Would have Father Give you A New Heart Of HIS Flesh
NOW Is The Time to Pray Fervently and Seek Father-God humbly and reverently and make your surrender.

Acknowledge Christ Jesus,
Admit and repent of your sins,
Claim your share of Father's Infinite Grace & Mercy,
Give Father your life, all of it; good & bad holding nothing back and seeking only to do HIS Will as long as you live,
Ask HIM to Send HIS Holy Spirit to Guide you through life.

HE Will, if you are honest and sincere...


Maranatha!!!
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John 14


1. Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
4. And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
5. Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
6. Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

8. Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
10. Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.


12. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
13. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

14. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
15. If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17. Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

19. Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

20. At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.


21. He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
22. Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
23. Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

24. He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.


25. These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
26. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
27. Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

28. Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
29. And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.
30. Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
31. But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.
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Re: The Witness Of Christ: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven..."
If you love me keep my commandments
What are Jesus' commandments and do you keep them perfectly
Is it works or grace

To you OP
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If you love me keep my commandments
What are Jesus' commandments and do you keep them perfectly
Is it works or grace

To you OP
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How about a witness from you?
Know what witness & testimony is?
Got one to share?

I have written over 10,000 or more witnesses on this forum since March 2004. Had been Born-Again almost 20yrs before writing a witness on public forum. Never Led to study The Scripture previously.

If you were Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again, you would have a witness to share and you would Know what it took for you to Come Unto The Father.
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.


You might also Know John 3:14, the part about Lifting UP The Son Of Man...

It takes action on our parts to Come Unto The Father, but this is not what most Christians mean by "works or grace".

Most Laodicean Christians remain alienated from Christ and Father, even though as Jesus Witnesses, they Claim HIM...


It all really starts with Matthew 16:14-18 The Rock...
Do you KNOW WHO Christ Jesus IS?
If so, The Father Put That KNOWLEDGE Upon Your Heart, so Christ Jesus Witnesses...

All that matters is that you Know Who Christ Jesus IS and that you manifest your heart Unto The Father.

That is the witness contained within this thread.
Many have stated that there is no Born-Again Witness within The Old Testament. If you were truly Born-Again you would Know Ezekiel 36:26-27 completely and fully. Just as you would Know First John 2:20-27, Hebrews 12:5-10, 2nd Timothy 2:6-7 and all of Jesus' Witness, especially John ch 17... You would KNOW these as if they were your own.

If you were truly Born-Again, The Holy Spirit Within you would Give you Recognition of HIMSelf in me...

Many are called, but few elect to make their surrender...
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John 3


1. There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the jewish people:
2. The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

3. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5. Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.


8. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
9. Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?


10. Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
11. Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

13. And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.


14. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15. That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18. He that believeth on HIM is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
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Understand about Nicodemus?

Nic is the archetype for the Faithful/Believer who cannot bring him/herself to Trust God Fully and make their surrender.

Nic was knee to knee with Jesus, but rejected The Witness of Christ. Unable to grasp "Must Be Born-Again"...

You can read Matthew 13:10-17 and see Jesus Own Witness that HE does NOT seek to convey The Gospel plainly and in open fashion. God Does Not seek those who would understand except by their hearts...

All that matters is your heart and if you can Trust God Fully and then take action. The Good Thief did this. Undoubtedly a rotten criminal, but he Believed and Christ Delivered him Unto Paradise... All a matter of heart...
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Thanks Lester. With the craziness of the world it's easy to forget the focus. Thanks for helping bring that back.
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Re: The Witness Of Christ: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven..."
My witness to all who Claim To Love Christ Jesus is this:

Search your heart and find God's Call. Truly if you Love Christ it is Because Father-God Has Called Your Heart...

Surrender Unto Father's Will IS The Way Unto HIS Victory; how you Become An OverComer, A Partaker Of The Fruits, Endowed With An Unction From The Holy One...

All The Witness of Scripture Sings The Name Christ Jesus.
Our Redeemer WHO Made The Way Unto The Father Possible.


You cannot Know until you surrender.
You cannot Surrender unless you Trust Father-God Fully with every aspect of your life.
You cannot hold any expectation or condition.

God's Will IS Always Perfect!
God Cannot Betray HIS People.
Only God IS Worthy of our confidence and Trust!

If you cannot decide in these Final Moments, your legacy is indecision and self.

Self is what you are now.
Born-Again IS The Gift of A New Heart Of HIS OWN Flesh That Only Father Can Give you...

As that Good Thief hung upon his cross, he understood his time was ending; so he cried out and confessed/Acknowledged Christ Jesus.

Right Now, The Age Of Faith is about to end.
Once ALL Mankind Knows, there will be no more Coming Unto The Father By Faith...

If you would Be HIS and are able to Come Unto HIM,
NOW Is The Time to Tell HIM So...


Maranatha!!!
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From Matthew ch 16:


13. When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?

14. And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
15. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

16. And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

18. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

20. Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.


You either Know WHO HE IS in your heart, or you don't.
If you Know, The Father Has Called your heart...

God Loves you about a Billion times more than the finest and best earthly parent could begin to conceive of...

HE Merits your Unconditional Trust and Surrender.
No one else does.

Time to Take Action For HIM...

Maranatha!!!
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If you would Be HIS, Would have Father Give you A New Heart Of HIS Flesh
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Sounds a bit like slavery to me.
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If you would Be HIS, Would have Father Give you A New Heart Of HIS Flesh
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Sounds a bit like slavery to me.
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Jesus came to earth to set the captives free.
Jesus Christ is the Savior.
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If you would Be HIS, Would have Father Give you A New Heart Of HIS Flesh
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Sounds a bit like slavery to me.
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Jesus came to earth to set the captives free.
Jesus Christ is the Savior.
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But we are still not free? Savior from what?
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Jesus saves us from sin and death.
And hell.
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Poor Lester.

What Lester still denies is that Jesus IS God in the flesh.

When will you believe?

You understand the Jehovah's witness is a cult and has always been.

Turn away and turn to Jesus Christ TRULY.

In Jesus Christ.
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Lester.

How can you know God?
When you do not even know who is His Son?

In Jesus Christ.
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You think you are truly free?

Many cannot go for an hour without sex thoughts or behaviors, addictions to alcohol, ciggy's or the millions of sins that keep men and women BOUND to sin.

Jesus sets the captives free.
He is able to throw open the jail door and you can walk out.

Surrender.. and give your mind, body, spirit & soul to Him.

Jesus/HolySpirit/GOD

Trust in God for your life & everything.
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Jesus saves us from sin and death.
And hell.
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He doesn't save us from death, everything dies.
Explain that one Einstein?
I don't think Jesus said any of this stuff at all you know why?
Because I think Jesus was a nice person, and a nice person as such would not tell such lies.
This crap was made up by the Jewish and Roman dictators to control us.
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Those who are taken the RAPTURE will not taste death but a transfiguration, just like what happened when Jesus took Peter, James and John to a mountain and Moses and Elijah appeared next to Jesus and suddenly Jesus CHANGED right in front of their eyes.

This is what will occur when the Church is RAPTURED.
These will die in the sense that our physical bodies will pass away to ETERNAL ones.

Just like the dead who believed will be raised and be changed.

That is why those who die physically now do not die but sleep.

But those who die without forgiveness of their sins, die forever. They are the truly dead.

In Jesus Christ.
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Bump

It saddens and baffles me to see some who claim to love Christ and then treat their fellow brothers and sisters with disrespect and unlove..

Because Christ sees everything..and everything is noted..

Christ says even our thoughts will condemn us..how on earth to we expect to make it into the Kingdom if we treat others harshly and without love? It amazes me
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The Lord said, if you love me you will do as He taught while He walked this earth and as He sits on the right hand throne of God.

How then can you love God if you preach a different gospel than the one He spoke of and taught?

You speak of love, but do you love the devil?
Should you follow his ways and love him to follow him to hell?

Love the Truth.
Love the Holy Spirit.
Love the Son.
Love the Father.

Follow Him into eternal life.
And those you see who teach evil, do not love these for they will answer for the lies they speak.

For they who presume to teach do not understand how great a responsibility they have been given or have taken on.

And with great responsibility, there will be a great accounting.

In Jesus Christ.
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Christ answered the question "Who Is My Mother and Brother"?

Fro Matthew 12
46. While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
47. Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
48. But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
49. And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
50. For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.


Not much for the idea of surrender are you; any of you???

Without surrendering your heart Unto The Father, none of Christ Jesus' Sacrifice matters in context to you...

You of the waxed heart,
You who remain "workers of iniquity".. which means carnal-hearted, self-willed and thereby are alienated from God.


Don't matter to me. These are YOUR Final Moments.
My final moment was 28yrs ago when I made my surrender.

I've Been In The Father's Presence and Been Given A New Heart Of HIS Flesh.

I didn't Know Christ Jesus' Witness or The Truth of The Gospel before I made my surrender. I didn't Know God's Plan or even how Jesus Fit Into HIS Plan. I Knew Christ To Be God The SON, but made my surrender Unto Father-God, YahWeh, Elohim, Jehovah, Adonai. I made sure God The Father Knew I was giving my life Unto HIM...

The sincerity and honesty of my Love and Unconditional Trust with HIS Infinite Grace and Mercy carried me through Into HIS Accord. I KNEW I had Been In HIS Presence and that my life had changed. My brother later told me my mother asked him "What's with Lester, he seems so different?", the next time I saw her.

You don't like my style, the Scriptures I cite, or what I Know and have Seen Of-God? Don't matter to me.

God's Will IS Always Perfect!

Maranatha!!!
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Your problem Lester is that you separate the Son from the Father and by doing this you make a distinction when Jesus Himself said HE and the FATHER are ONE.

They are the TRIUNE, the ONE God.
The Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

There is no separating the 3, for they all are one.

Jesus Christ is God in the FLESH.
God the FATHER'S WORD manifest and made FLESH.

How do you separate God's Word from God?
They are the same for does not God's Word originate from God Himself?

For is it not written that nothing has been created that has been created without the Son?

For all things were MADE THROUGH HIM.

Jesus Christ the SON OF GOD is the CREATOR.

Jesus Christ the SON OF GOD existed from the beginning not as a creation but THE CREATOR.

Why do you keep denying this?
Do you not testify by your own words that of the title you made in this thread?

For how did you know the Father at all when you never knew the Son?

For did Jesus Christ not even tell His diciples that if they have seen HIM, they have SEEN THE FATHER?

They are ONE.
You cannot separate them.

BELIEVE.

In Jesus Christ.
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By the way Lester, there is also no way to the Father except through the SON.

And THAT is from God's own Word, who Jesus Christ IS.

Is the Holy Spirit in you that you can comprehend this?

I pray that He will show you the Truth.

In Jesus Christ.
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I saw you speaking of witness earlier, I'd like to share my testimony, if I may.

I was an atheist for nearly a decade. I never stopped seeking, but without any evidence, I was unable to maintain my faith and simply gave up.

Finally, about 2 years ago (2 years and 20 days, to be exact) He spoke to me. Simple as that. Sure my evidence can not be another's evidence ... I understand that. However, since then, I've dedicated my life to being Torah observant and serving YHWH to the best of my ability. Do I manage to do so perfectly? Of course not, but my studies have led me to realize that I am unable to maintain my beliefs as a "modern traditional christian". Torah observance is the only way for me.
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes
"The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin
Real men keep Torah.
Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10.

Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money.

Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married.

Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common.
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You who remain "workers of iniquity".. which means carnal-hearted, self-willed and thereby are alienated from God.
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I don't mean to be contrary ... but "iniquity" in the Greek is "anomia".

a - Without

nomia - law.

Workers of iniquity are "lawless ones", ones that reject the law.

Just sayin'.
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Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money.

Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married.

Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common.
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I can only imagine The Lord to have felt extraordinarily lonely when amongst us humans.

Nicodemus as already cited came to HIM in Knowledge that HE was Of The Father, but could not grasp Born-Again and thereby was unable to receive Jesus' Witness. See John 3 citation in above posts....

In John 14:9 also cited earlier, HIS disappointment is clear:
Jesus saith unto him, "Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?"

5. Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
6. Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
8. Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
10. Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.


The Father Dwelleth IN ME; HE Doeth The Works.....


Jesus Witnesses HE IS The Way Unto The Father... No man Cometh Unto The Father But By ME!

Think I deny Christ Jesus through HIS OWN Witness?

What I deny and denounce are the self-willed/workers of iniquity Christians who attempt to impeach The Witness of Christ and The Intent of The New Testament, namely To Enable those Whose Hearts God Has Called to Come Unto HIM and live their lives In Born-Again Relationship...

I have defended God's Trinity Nature and The Godhead of Christ Jesus many times over the years on this forum.

I will not have my Love and Brotherhood With Christ In-Father impugned or denied by any Hebrews 12 Bastard who cannot receive True and Holy Spirit Guided witness from one who made his surrender and was Instructed To Witness 19.7yrs later.


Can't understand means only that you won't or can't hear with your heart...
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Lester, do you have any links that can help a Christian overcome sin in his life? Preferably related to overcoming sexual immorality?
The false gospel: If you don't continually perform, you're out.

The true Gospel: Believe.
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I am Father's witness, like Christ Jesus.

All who are Ezekiel 36 Born-Again, witness The Father.
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Read the John 14 verses again. Cited now twice above.

Maybe ponder John ch 17 in its entirety? This is Jesus' last Witness before being taken in the garden. This IS Jesus' Prayer For HIS Remnant...

1. These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
2. As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
3. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
4. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
6. I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.
7. Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.
8. For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
9. I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
10. And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.


11. And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
12. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
13. And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.
14. I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
16. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
17. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
18. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
19. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
20. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21. That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.


22. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23. I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24. Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
25. O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
26. And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.


This IS Our Legacy From Father and what All Scripture Witnesses: That Enabled By Father-God, we can and do Live Our Lives In & With HIM, Christ Jesus and The Holy Spirit...



Can you witness HIS Truth IS a daily occurrence in your life?

If it is not, you are living in confused alienation. Such defines a "worker of iniquity".

Can't Trust HIM enough to make your surrender?
Then by my witness, your iniquity and iniquitous ways will betray you and cause much fear and despair in the days and years to come. If you are capable of self-honesty, you must admit you already live in such fear and despair and you rebuke God for not being WHO you want HIM to be...

There remains time and The Way to change all this; to allow God to Vanquish defeat from your life with HIS Victory!

Just takes about 20min and a quiet place to make your surrender. Got 20min for the most important event in your life?

Maranatha!!!
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Lester, do you have any links that can help a Christian overcome sin in his life? Preferably related to overcoming sexual immorality?
 Quoting: Fidokrab


From John ch 8:

1. Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.
2. And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
3. And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
4. They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
5. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
6. This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
7. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

8. And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
9. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
10. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?

11. She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

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Trust God Fully and make your surrender.
Until you are Born-Again you will be unable to Know HIS Will, Do HIS Will or live free of sin.

Understand that if you Love God, you Must Be Born-Again?
Until you can give control of your life Unto The Father you will remain ruled-over by self and carnality.



What matters in context of your life is that you Trust God and are Guided By HIM. Others unable to make their surrender may judge you and will fail to understand, but if you Abide In & With The Father your life is Exactly What HE Means For It To Be.

Consider this from St. John's Epistle 1 ch 2: esp v.27...
18. Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

20. *** But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.***
21. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

22. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26. These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

27. *** But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.***

28. And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.
29. If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.
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Hey Lester, somebody is asking for help. Scroll up and see if you can provide a helping hand.
The false gospel: If you don't continually perform, you're out.

The true Gospel: Believe.
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Help needed, eh?

Scripture Witnesses to the guy bound-up in the torah. How many times can I post John 14:6? They either understand or they don't...


The guy who can't grasp Trinity and seeks to rationalize his "insights" won't understand either. Can't really help anyone who is unwilling to consider witness.



These are The Final Moments.
Christians (not messianic jewish, not "others") can either hear with their hearts and praying about the witness they've heard, Take Action; or they won't....

Jesus Did NOT Seek To Make "understanding" easy to come by...
Matthew 13 Witnesses this:
10. And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

11. He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.


13. Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15. For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.


16. But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
17. For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.


I have witnessed to all kinds:
-deniers of Christ Jesus' Divinity,
-catholics,
-deniers of Born-Again,
-deniers of Christianity, IE "followers of Jesus/God",
-all sorts of crazed Laodicean Christians seeking after their will for God, not able to submit Unto Father.

Many are called, but few are chosen...

Those "chosen" are they who elected to make their surrender.
The Very Elect,
The Bond-Slaves,
(Someone posted, "sounds like slavery" above. Very much so, but entirely voluntary and founded in devotion & Love!)


I was Instructed To Witness in 2004.
Told By God The Father to TELL...

There is no helping those who cannot humble themselves and Come Unto The Father.

You either KNOW God Changed your heart and you Abide In/With HIM, or you must admit you don't Know HIM...


The Holy Spirit Revealed to me in 2004 that "Anyone who ever Loved Christ Jesus with a True heart, even as a child, will not be lost or condemned".

There is no help for those who will not reflect or consider that With Father, All Things Are Possible, Through Jesus...





GLP