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Sure there nay be a variety of factors. BUT:
Before the Industrial Revolution – that is when society began to develop, use and rely on technology – carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere were at about 280ppm.

Today, carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere have increased to about 396ppm.

In order to put the current increase in carbon dioxide into context, look at the time of the fastest carbon dioxide rise in the past. In this case, it looks to be at about 130,000 years ago.

During this ‘rapid’ event, carbon dioxide increased from 198ppm to 287ppm (a total of 89ppm) over a period of 7,500 years.

Not only is the rate of current carbon dioxide emissions unseen in the last 400,000 years, the magnitude of the change is also incredible. We are now nearly at 400ppm.

We won't see the total effect of OUR efforts for many years because the earth can't react fast enough. But the damage is done. Weird weather is now the norm.

Remember Easter Island. Humans there thought they had unlimited growth potential there. Then a few hundred years later, they woke up and it was too late. It's too late already.
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I love this place. So the cycle we are in is perhaps the biggest one ever?
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"global warming" IS for Dummies.

Climate change is real, and right now a "global Cooling"
is a more likely scenario.

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Re: global warming for dummies
Sure there nay be a variety of factors. BUT:
Before the Industrial Revolution – that is when society began to develop, use and rely on technology – carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere were at about 280ppm.

Today, carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere have increased to about 396ppm.

In order to put the current increase in carbon dioxide into context, look at the time of the fastest carbon dioxide rise in the past. In this case, it looks to be at about 130,000 years ago.

During this ‘rapid’ event, carbon dioxide increased from 198ppm to 287ppm (a total of 89ppm) over a period of 7,500 years.

Not only is the rate of current carbon dioxide emissions unseen in the last 400,000 years, the magnitude of the change is also incredible. We are now nearly at 400ppm.

We won't see the total effect of OUR efforts for many years because the earth can't react fast enough. But the damage is done. Weird weather is now the norm.

Remember Easter Island. Humans there thought they had unlimited growth potential there. Then a few hundred years later, they woke up and it was too late. It's too late already.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13649018


I'm not disputing it isn't happening. I'm disputing the cause of it being us.

Seeing as changes are happening everywhere this is a better explanation and ticks all the boxes (first written about in the 70's)...

Current PlanetoPhysical alterations of the Earth are becoming irreversible. Strong evidence exists that these transformations are being caused by highly charged material and energetic non-uniformity's in anisotropic interstellar space which have broken into the interplanetary area of our Solar System. This "donation" of energy is producing hybrid processes and excited energy states in all planets, as well as the Sun. Effects here on Earth are to be found in the acceleration of the magnetic pole shift, in the vertical and horizontal ozone content distribution, and in the increased frequency and magnitude of significant catastrophic climatic events.

There is growing probability that we are moving into a rapid temperature instability period similar to the one that took place 10,000 years ago. The adaptive responses of the biosphere, and humanity, to these new conditions may lead to a total global revision of the range of species and life on Earth.

Current, in process, geological, geophysical, and climatical alterations
of the Earth are becoming more, and more, irreversible. At the present time researchers are revealing some of the causes which are leading to a general reorganization of the electro-magnetosphere (the electromagnetic skeleton) of our planet, and of its climatic machinery. A greater number of specialists in climatology, geophysics, planetophysics, and heliophysics are tending towards a cosmic causative sequence version for what is happening. Indeed, events of the last decade give strong evidence of unusually significant heliospheric and planetophysic transformations [1,2]. Given the quality, quantity, and scale of these transformations we may say that:

The climatic and biosphere processes here on Earth (through a tightly connected feedback system) are directly impacted by, and linked back to, the general overall transformational processes taking place in our Solar System...

[link to tmgnow.com]
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This is exactly what I was on about. I'm glad to have a thread under the radar so to speak to get contributions like this.
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Re: global warming for dummies
"global warming" IS for Dummies.

Climate change is real, and right now a "global Cooling"
is a more likely scenario.

class dismissed.
 Quoting: DanG 15299538


wow thanks for summing it all up, there was us ignorant of it all.



climate change is real yes, it changes evey second of every day.

can you show me evidence of there being no climate change?
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I am not a huge conspiracy theorist but this is a case where every Government in the World wants to you look at the left hand so you don't see what's really going on with the right hand.

When you start looking at ALL the changes happening above us it is very clear Planet Earth is not the only object in our system to have noticeable changes.
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apparntly the sun is going to turn into a red giant in a few months, give birth to a new planet and return to its normal state.. and we will get pushed a little more away from the sun when this happens, plants will die over decades and we will take mars place in the cosmos.

ofcourse i just made all that up.
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Something has to happen with all the fuel its been getting. Of course.
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yes they are seeding the sun to give birth, we have been officially aborted.

sad they have decided this about the planet, we must have fucked up somehow.. and they are going to try again, for the 100xxxth? time
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Who is they or shouldn't I ask
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the bottom line is this/

when the balance of animals that take o2 and make co2 to plants that make o2 and take co2 is off, one of them will thrive and the other will die, until it corrects itself, and then the process repeates in the reverse, because of the delay between the two systems.

this process has been going on since the first oxygen breathing life form on this planet.
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Re: global warming for dummies
"global warming" IS for Dummies.

Climate change is real, and right now a "global Cooling"
is a more likely scenario.

class dismissed.
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Yeah but I'm trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator. But thankfully have gotten the highest.
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apparntly the sun is going to turn into a red giant in a few months, give birth to a new planet and return to its normal state.. and we will get pushed a little more away from the sun when this happens, plants will die over decades and we will take mars place in the cosmos.

ofcourse i just made all that up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18579461


Something has to happen with all the fuel its been getting. Of course.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4241337


yes they are seeding the sun to give birth, we have been officially aborted.

sad they have decided this about the planet, we must have fucked up somehow.. and they are going to try again, for the 100xxxth? time
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18617434

Who is they or shouldn't I ask
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4241337


i dunno, the solar systems creators? ancient aliens with big ships that go around making suns give birth to planets.. or it might just be a natural process of the suns interaction with the universe.
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Re: global warming for dummies
"global warming" IS for Dummies.

Climate change is real, and right now a "global Cooling"
is a more likely scenario.

class dismissed.
 Quoting: DanG 15299538


wow thanks for summing it all up, there was us ignorant of it all.



climate change is real yes, it changes evey second of every day.

can you show me evidence of there being no climate change?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18617434


Again w my pet leave climate doesn't change daily but weather does.
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Something has to happen with all the fuel its been getting. Of course.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4241337


yes they are seeding the sun to give birth, we have been officially aborted.

sad they have decided this about the planet, we must have fucked up somehow.. and they are going to try again, for the 100xxxth? time
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18617434

Who is they or shouldn't I ask
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4241337


i dunno, the solar systems creators? ancient aliens with big ships that go around making suns give birth to planets.. or it might just be a natural process of the suns interaction with the universe.
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Well I think the universe is conscious.
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Re: global warming for dummies
Sure there nay be a variety of factors. BUT:
Before the Industrial Revolution – that is when society began to develop, use and rely on technology – carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere were at about 280ppm.

Today, carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere have increased to about 396ppm.

In order to put the current increase in carbon dioxide into context, look at the time of the fastest carbon dioxide rise in the past. In this case, it looks to be at about 130,000 years ago.

During this ‘rapid’ event, carbon dioxide increased from 198ppm to 287ppm (a total of 89ppm) over a period of 7,500 years.

Not only is the rate of current carbon dioxide emissions unseen in the last 400,000 years, the magnitude of the change is also incredible. We are now nearly at 400ppm.

We won't see the total effect of OUR efforts for many years because the earth can't react fast enough. But the damage is done. Weird weather is now the norm.

Remember Easter Island. Humans there thought they had unlimited growth potential there. Then a few hundred years later, they woke up and it was too late. It's too late already.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13649018


I love this place. So the cycle we are in is perhaps the biggest one ever?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4241337

How do you get that idea? The rate of carbon input is the fastest even. Obviously it's from the ten trillion tons we've put out our smokestacks since the 1880's. It's too fast for the natural systems to react too.
I must say, I love (and study) the speculations that seem like science fiction. Plazma ribbon, local dust clowd making the sun spark up, etc etc. The polar shift Is ongoing as well as the loss of protection from cosmic radiation. I just hope they aren't going to kill us before the party is over.
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Re: global warming for dummies
"global warming" IS for Dummies.

Climate change is real, and right now a "global Cooling"
is a more likely scenario.

class dismissed.
 Quoting: DanG 15299538


wow thanks for summing it all up, there was us ignorant of it all.



climate change is real yes, it changes evey second of every day.

can you show me evidence of there being no climate change?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18617434


Again w my pet leave climate doesn't change daily but weather does.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4241337


i think you will find they just twisted the word climate to mean something its the usual way people are manipulated.

give them a word to hold onto then secretly change its meaning.

then what are they holding onto?
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Re: global warming for dummies
the bottom line is this/

when the balance of animals that take o2 and make co2 to plants that make o2 and take co2 is off, one of them will thrive and the other will die, until it corrects itself, and then the process repeates in the reverse, because of the delay between the two systems.

this process has been going on since the first oxygen breathing life form on this planet.
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And what of the respiratory functions of the ant or termite?
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I love this place. So the cycle we are in is perhaps the biggest one ever?
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No of course it isn't. A few million years ago, atmospheric carbon dioxide levels were EIGHT THOUSAND PPM. That's 20 times higher than current levels of around 400ppm.

Where did the coal come from? How did the carbon get in the coal? The answer is that coal is dead plants. They got ALL their carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. ALL the carbon that is in the coal used to be in the atmosphere! ALL OF IT!!!

Here is a graph:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The orange line is atmospheric carbon dioxide levels. Today is on the left of the graph. As you move to the right of the graph, you are moving back into the past. Look how high the levels were 500 million years ago!

Then the levels dropped rapidly until about 300 million years ago. This was due to all those plants sucking carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and turning it into coal. The coal was all laid down during the Carboniferous Period.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You will never get an environmental activist to admit that carbon dioxide levels were MUCH HIGHER in the past. They like to pretend that 400ppm is the highest level it has ever been, when in fact, 400ppm is in fact pretty much the LOWEST CARBON DIOXIDE LEVELS EVER ON THE PLANET. Sure it was a tiny bit lower a couple of hundred years ago. But current levels are way lower than the planet and life has easily survived in the past.
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Re: global warming for dummies
Sure there nay be a variety of factors. BUT:
Before the Industrial Revolution – that is when society began to develop, use and rely on technology – carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere were at about 280ppm.

Today, carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere have increased to about 396ppm.

In order to put the current increase in carbon dioxide into context, look at the time of the fastest carbon dioxide rise in the past. In this case, it looks to be at about 130,000 years ago.

During this ‘rapid’ event, carbon dioxide increased from 198ppm to 287ppm (a total of 89ppm) over a period of 7,500 years.

Not only is the rate of current carbon dioxide emissions unseen in the last 400,000 years, the magnitude of the change is also incredible. We are now nearly at 400ppm.

We won't see the total effect of OUR efforts for many years because the earth can't react fast enough. But the damage is done. Weird weather is now the norm.

Remember Easter Island. Humans there thought they had unlimited growth potential there. Then a few hundred years later, they woke up and it was too late. It's too late already.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13649018


I love this place. So the cycle we are in is perhaps the biggest one ever?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4241337

How do you get that idea? The rate of carbon input is the fastest even. Obviously it's from the ten trillion tons we've put out our smokestacks since the 1880's. It's too fast for the natural systems to react too.
I must say, I love (and study) the speculations that seem like science fiction. Plazma ribbon, local dust clowd making the sun spark up, etc etc. The polar shift Is ongoing as well as the loss of protection from cosmic radiation. I just hope they aren't going to kill us before the party is over.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13649018

You were doing good there but then...well lets just think for a moment how much we put in the air compared to idk volcanoes?
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"global warming" IS for Dummies.

Climate change is real, and right now a "global Cooling"
is a more likely scenario.

class dismissed.
 Quoting: DanG 15299538


wow thanks for summing it all up, there was us ignorant of it all.



climate change is real yes, it changes evey second of every day.

can you show me evidence of there being no climate change?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18617434


Again w my pet leave climate doesn't change daily but weather does.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4241337


i think you will find they just twisted the word climate to mean something its the usual way people are manipulated.

give them a word to hold onto then secretly change its meaning.

then what are they holding onto?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18617434


Agreed. I think they are just holding out for times preparations sake.
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Re: global warming for dummies
the bottom line is this/

when the balance of animals that take o2 and make co2 to plants that make o2 and take co2 is off, one of them will thrive and the other will die, until it corrects itself, and then the process repeates in the reverse, because of the delay between the two systems.

this process has been going on since the first oxygen breathing life form on this planet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18617434


And what of the respiratory functions of the ant or termite?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4241337


anything that is not dependant on o2 or co2 is not part of that system.

but ants breath too they just dont need lungs.
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I love this place. So the cycle we are in is perhaps the biggest one ever?
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No of course it isn't. A few million years ago, atmospheric carbon dioxide levels were EIGHT THOUSAND PPM. That's 20 times higher than current levels of around 400ppm.

Where did the coal come from? How did the carbon get in the coal? The answer is that coal is dead plants. They got ALL their carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. ALL the carbon that is in the coal used to be in the atmosphere! ALL OF IT!!!

Here is a graph:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The orange line is atmospheric carbon dioxide levels. Today is on the left of the graph. As you move to the right of the graph, you are moving back into the past. Look how high the levels were 500 million years ago!

Then the levels dropped rapidly until about 300 million years ago. This was due to all those plants sucking carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and turning it into coal. The coal was all laid down during the Carboniferous Period.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You will never get an environmental activist to admit that carbon dioxide levels were MUCH HIGHER in the past. They like to pretend that 400ppm is the highest level it has ever been, when in fact, 400ppm is in fact pretty much the LOWEST CARBON DIOXIDE LEVELS EVER ON THE PLANET. Sure it was a tiny bit lower a couple of hundred years ago. But current levels are way lower than the planet and life has easily survived in the past.
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So what's the reason for this
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Re: global warming for dummies
the bottom line is this/

when the balance of animals that take o2 and make co2 to plants that make o2 and take co2 is off, one of them will thrive and the other will die, until it corrects itself, and then the process repeates in the reverse, because of the delay between the two systems.

this process has been going on since the first oxygen breathing life form on this planet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18617434


And what of the respiratory functions of the ant or termite?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4241337


anything that is not dependant on o2 or co2 is not part of that system.

but ants breath too they just dont need lungs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18617434


Ants outweigh humans or any other animal on this planet multi fold. I want to know what their respiratory sic functions are. Its a good question to me anyway.
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I love this place. So the cycle we are in is perhaps the biggest one ever?
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No of course it isn't. A few million years ago, atmospheric carbon dioxide levels were EIGHT THOUSAND PPM. That's 20 times higher than current levels of around 400ppm.

Where did the coal come from? How did the carbon get in the coal? The answer is that coal is dead plants. They got ALL their carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. ALL the carbon that is in the coal used to be in the atmosphere! ALL OF IT!!!

Here is a graph:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The orange line is atmospheric carbon dioxide levels. Today is on the left of the graph. As you move to the right of the graph, you are moving back into the past. Look how high the levels were 500 million years ago!

Then the levels dropped rapidly until about 300 million years ago. This was due to all those plants sucking carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and turning it into coal. The coal was all laid down during the Carboniferous Period.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You will never get an environmental activist to admit that carbon dioxide levels were MUCH HIGHER in the past. They like to pretend that 400ppm is the highest level it has ever been, when in fact, 400ppm is in fact pretty much the LOWEST CARBON DIOXIDE LEVELS EVER ON THE PLANET. Sure it was a tiny bit lower a couple of hundred years ago. But current levels are way lower than the planet and life has easily survived in the past.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18544112

So what's the reason for this
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4241337


the reason is like i said

more plants = more o2, more o2 = less plants then more c02 = more plants and more o2 and vice versa.

its the cycle.
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the bottom line is this/

when the balance of animals that take o2 and make co2 to plants that make o2 and take co2 is off, one of them will thrive and the other will die, until it corrects itself, and then the process repeates in the reverse, because of the delay between the two systems.

this process has been going on since the first oxygen breathing life form on this planet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18617434


And what of the respiratory functions of the ant or termite?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4241337


anything that is not dependant on o2 or co2 is not part of that system.

but ants breath too they just dont need lungs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18617434


Ants outweigh humans or any other animal on this planet multi fold. I want to know what their respiratory sic functions are. Its a good question to me anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4241337


good q, but they are the same as us, breathing o2 making co2, the opposite of plants under photosynthesis... btw when its dark most plants make co2 and consume o2 ;)!
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I love this place. So the cycle we are in is perhaps the biggest one ever?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4241337

No of course it isn't. A few million years ago, atmospheric carbon dioxide levels were EIGHT THOUSAND PPM. That's 20 times higher than current levels of around 400ppm.

Where did the coal come from? How did the carbon get in the coal? The answer is that coal is dead plants. They got ALL their carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. ALL the carbon that is in the coal used to be in the atmosphere! ALL OF IT!!!

Here is a graph:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The orange line is atmospheric carbon dioxide levels. Today is on the left of the graph. As you move to the right of the graph, you are moving back into the past. Look how high the levels were 500 million years ago!

Then the levels dropped rapidly until about 300 million years ago. This was due to all those plants sucking carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and turning it into coal. The coal was all laid down during the Carboniferous Period.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You will never get an environmental activist to admit that carbon dioxide levels were MUCH HIGHER in the past. They like to pretend that 400ppm is the highest level it has ever been, when in fact, 400ppm is in fact pretty much the LOWEST CARBON DIOXIDE LEVELS EVER ON THE PLANET. Sure it was a tiny bit lower a couple of hundred years ago. But current levels are way lower than the planet and life has easily survived in the past.
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Very well said.

As for the reason it goes back to what I said. They want you looking at the left hand and do not want you to know what's really going on with the right hand.
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This isn't a cycle but new science happening above us. Things are changing everywhere.
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I love this place. So the cycle we are in is perhaps the biggest one ever?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4241337

No of course it isn't. A few million years ago, atmospheric carbon dioxide levels were EIGHT THOUSAND PPM. That's 20 times higher than current levels of around 400ppm.

Where did the coal come from? How did the carbon get in the coal? The answer is that coal is dead plants. They got ALL their carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. ALL the carbon that is in the coal used to be in the atmosphere! ALL OF IT!!!

Here is a graph:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The orange line is atmospheric carbon dioxide levels. Today is on the left of the graph. As you move to the right of the graph, you are moving back into the past. Look how high the levels were 500 million years ago!

Then the levels dropped rapidly until about 300 million years ago. This was due to all those plants sucking carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and turning it into coal. The coal was all laid down during the Carboniferous Period.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You will never get an environmental activist to admit that carbon dioxide levels were MUCH HIGHER in the past. They like to pretend that 400ppm is the highest level it has ever been, when in fact, 400ppm is in fact pretty much the LOWEST CARBON DIOXIDE LEVELS EVER ON THE PLANET. Sure it was a tiny bit lower a couple of hundred years ago. But current levels are way lower than the planet and life has easily survived in the past.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18544112

So what's the reason for this
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4241337


the reason is like i said

more plants = more o2, more o2 = less plants then more c02 = more plants and more o2 and vice versa.

its the cycle.
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I'm looking for the cause dips hit.
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Had a discussion with one of my kid classes today on global warming. Right off the bat they believed so strongly that co2 was so evil. One kid even said

The Earth Is On Fire! . Can you believe it??

So here in a nutshell is the easy gist.

First plants need co2. More co2 means more plants..more oxygen for us.

Next methane is stronger. Co2 anyway is so weak.

Stronger still is water vapor.

That about sums it up and shouldn't have to spell it out further to anyone here.

Just had to vent. Thanks for listening.
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Totally agree. This means that nothing on earth can die anymore because decomposition brings on more CO2? LMAO
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And what of the respiratory functions of the ant or termite?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4241337


anything that is not dependant on o2 or co2 is not part of that system.

but ants breath too they just dont need lungs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18617434


Ants outweigh humans or any other animal on this planet multi fold. I want to know what their respiratory sic functions are. Its a good question to me anyway.
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good q, but they are the same as us, breathing o2 making co2, the opposite of plants under photosynthesis... btw when its dark most plants make co2 and consume o2 ;)!
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That surprised me when I first learned a bout it. I guess ants will still be around when we aren't..giving critical co2 to the few remaining plants left. And then oxygen to the life coming up next.
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This isn't a cycle but new science happening above us. Things are changing everywhere.
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The ancients knew it to be a cycle
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Re: global warming for dummies
Had a discussion with one of my kid classes today on global warming. Right off the bat they believed so strongly that co2 was so evil. One kid even said

The Earth Is On Fire! . Can you believe it??

So here in a nutshell is the easy gist.

First plants need co2. More co2 means more plants..more oxygen for us.

Next methane is stronger. Co2 anyway is so weak.

Stronger still is water vapor.

That about sums it up and shouldn't have to spell it out further to anyone here.

Just had to vent. Thanks for listening.
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Totally agree. This means that nothing on earth can die anymore because decomposition brings on more CO2? LMAO
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Imagine the fertile soil then when all of us are dead lol!
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No of course it isn't. A few million years ago, atmospheric carbon dioxide levels were EIGHT THOUSAND PPM. That's 20 times higher than current levels of around 400ppm.

Where did the coal come from? How did the carbon get in the coal? The answer is that coal is dead plants. They got ALL their carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. ALL the carbon that is in the coal used to be in the atmosphere! ALL OF IT!!!

Here is a graph:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The orange line is atmospheric carbon dioxide levels. Today is on the left of the graph. As you move to the right of the graph, you are moving back into the past. Look how high the levels were 500 million years ago!

Then the levels dropped rapidly until about 300 million years ago. This was due to all those plants sucking carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere and turning it into coal. The coal was all laid down during the Carboniferous Period.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You will never get an environmental activist to admit that carbon dioxide levels were MUCH HIGHER in the past. They like to pretend that 400ppm is the highest level it has ever been, when in fact, 400ppm is in fact pretty much the LOWEST CARBON DIOXIDE LEVELS EVER ON THE PLANET. Sure it was a tiny bit lower a couple of hundred years ago. But current levels are way lower than the planet and life has easily survived in the past.
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So what's the reason for this
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the reason is like i said

more plants = more o2, more o2 = less plants then more c02 = more plants and more o2 and vice versa.

its the cycle.
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I'm looking for the cause dips hit.
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this is the cause 'dips hit'! :)

the cause of the elvated co2, is due to the sun being blocked and plants not producing oxygen.

also if there is mass destruction of the plant matter due to natural disaters the same applies!

elevated co2 levels
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This isn't a cycle but new science happening above us. Things are changing everywhere.
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The ancients knew it to be a cycle
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Yes but not in the context I was referring to with regards to the Sun.

We are travelling through space at roughly 1.3million kph. Although space appears to be empty there is indeed a lot of different energies out there. The IBEX ribbon is an interesting one as is the new energy bubbles discovered ( [link to www.nytimes.com] ).

We can and do go through pockets of different energies as we hurtle through space and I'm suggesting that this is what is happening to us at this current time. It is part of a much larger cycle but it isn't a part of the sun cycle.
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