BREAKING! EU unveils its vision for the future of monetary union | |
Cybermerc (OP) User ID: 1254056 United States 06/26/2012 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do they really think individual countries are going to give up their say so for how they run their finances? The leaders might give in, but hopefully the people won't. "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." - James Madison “The first time you blow someone away is not an insignificant event. That said, there are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.” - Marine Gen. James Mattis |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4227306 United States 06/26/2012 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do they really think individual countries are going to give up their say so for how they run their finances? The leaders might give in, but hopefully the people won't. Quoting: Cybermerc Human stupidity knows no bounds. They don't know how precious Sovereignty is until it's gone. Usually they figure it out when it's to late. |
Cybermerc (OP) User ID: 1254056 United States 06/26/2012 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Earlier, German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble also called for there to be a European finance minister, with the power to veto national budgets as well as an elected president of Europe. Quoting: [link to www.bbc.co.uk] I wonder which country those 2 individuals would come from... "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." - James Madison “The first time you blow someone away is not an insignificant event. That said, there are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.” - Marine Gen. James Mattis |
Cybermerc (OP) User ID: 1254056 United States 06/26/2012 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do they really think individual countries are going to give up their say so for how they run their finances? The leaders might give in, but hopefully the people won't. Quoting: Cybermerc Human stupidity knows no bounds. They don't know how precious Sovereignty is until it's gone. Usually they figure it out when it's to late. The people of Europe seem to have a great sense of national pride. They will see this move as a loss of that pride. I expect there to be much turmoil if they move forward with this plan. "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." - James Madison “The first time you blow someone away is not an insignificant event. That said, there are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.” - Marine Gen. James Mattis |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 4227306 United States 06/26/2012 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I guess all these changes, and all this power shift to Brussels will still not trigger a referendum in the UK, regardless of promise, they'll weasell their way out of it because it doesn't directly impact us, which is complete cobblers, such changes impact everyone.. I hope those fighting will find a legal way to trigger a referendum.. in or out.. :) OUT..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18490641 England. You guys better not get sucked into that horse shit. They'll try & bleed you dry too. |
Cybermerc (OP) User ID: 1254056 United States 06/26/2012 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I guess all these changes, and all this power shift to Brussels will still not trigger a referendum in the UK, regardless of promise, they'll weasell their way out of it because it doesn't directly impact us, which is complete cobblers, such changes impact everyone.. I hope those fighting will find a legal way to trigger a referendum.. in or out.. :) OUT..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18490641 England. You guys better not get sucked into that horse shit. They'll try & bleed you dry too. They've been smart enough so far to stay out of most of it. Let's hope they stay that way. And I agree, OUT is the only choice to be made here. "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." - James Madison “The first time you blow someone away is not an insignificant event. That said, there are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.” - Marine Gen. James Mattis |
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Cybermerc (OP) User ID: 1254056 United States 06/26/2012 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well then enlighten us as to why this is a good plan. Us backward hillbilly folk are none to smrt and can't see the genius of this plan. Last Edited by Cybermerc on 06/26/2012 12:22 PM "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." - James Madison “The first time you blow someone away is not an insignificant event. That said, there are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.” - Marine Gen. James Mattis |
Cybermerc (OP) User ID: 1254056 United States 06/26/2012 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | *double post* Last Edited by Cybermerc on 06/26/2012 12:22 PM "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." - James Madison “The first time you blow someone away is not an insignificant event. That said, there are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.” - Marine Gen. James Mattis |
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Cybermerc (OP) User ID: 1254056 United States 06/26/2012 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Great argument you got there. "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." - James Madison “The first time you blow someone away is not an insignificant event. That said, there are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.” - Marine Gen. James Mattis |
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Bowmanator User ID: 1822658 Sweden 06/26/2012 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do they really think individual countries are going to give up their say so for how they run their finances? The leaders might give in, but hopefully the people won't. Quoting: Cybermerc Human stupidity knows no bounds. They don't know how precious Sovereignty is until it's gone. Usually they figure it out when it's to late. Yes and a good point. BUT this is also a scam by the ECB to con these nations into selling their Gold for ECB loans. This is the end game and the plan for the PTB. Soon all of Europe will be without Gold and replaced with more debt..... Bowman |
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Fand User ID: 18625586 United States 06/26/2012 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do they really think individual countries are going to give up their say so for how they run their finances? The leaders might give in, but hopefully the people won't. Quoting: Cybermerc Human stupidity knows no bounds. They don't know how precious Sovereignty is until it's gone. Usually they figure it out when it's to late. Yes and a good point. BUT this is also a scam by the ECB to con these nations into selling their Gold for ECB loans. This is the end game and the plan for the PTB. Soon all of Europe will be without Gold and replaced with more debt..... This whole world is going to shit. I always thought Europe would be smarter. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17418121 Ireland 06/26/2012 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do they really think individual countries are going to give up their say so for how they run their finances? The leaders might give in, but hopefully the people won't. Quoting: Cybermerc Human stupidity knows no bounds. They don't know how precious Sovereignty is until it's gone. Usually they figure it out when it's to late. Yes and a good point. BUT this is also a scam by the ECB to con these nations into selling their Gold for ECB loans. This is the end game and the plan for the PTB. Soon all of Europe will be without Gold and replaced with more debt..... F***ing eejits here keep saying yes. We say no in protests and then vote yes. Hopefully UK will ruin their plans. |
Ohwell User ID: 15674802 United Kingdom 06/26/2012 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | European authorities have unveiled their vision for the future, which gives them much greater powers. Quoting: [link to www.bbc.co.uk] It includes the creation of a European treasury, which would have powers over national budgets. European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso said it was "a defining moment for European integration". Described as a 10-year plan, it is designed to strengthen the eurozone and prevent future crises, as countries grapple with current debt problems. Proposals in the report included: Limits on the amount of debt individual countries can take on Annual national budgets can be vetoed if they are likely to mean a country exceeding its debt limits The eurozone borrowing money collectively "could be explored" A European treasury office to be set up to control a central budget and keep an eye on national ones A single European banking regulator and a common scheme guaranteeing bank deposits Common policies on employment regulations and levels of taxation Joint decision-making with national parliaments to give it "democratic legitimacy" As long as the masses agree to the use of money, seems they will continue not to be autonomous and will be manipulated forever. Will people change? |
Ohwell User ID: 15674802 United Kingdom 06/26/2012 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, this is their Solution for you before they unleash the problem which will tie in together with laws after the False Flags that triggers the collapse. Problem is about to be unleashed whilst Reaction is a known unknown but you can bet they are prepared for all possible outcomes. Last Edited by Ohwell on 06/26/2012 01:21 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18610044 Germany 06/26/2012 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Earlier, German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble also called for there to be a European finance minister, with the power to veto national budgets as well as an elected president of Europe. Quoting: [link to www.bbc.co.uk] I wonder which country those 2 individuals would come from... If you think these plans benefit Germany you are stupid. |
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Cybermerc (OP) User ID: 1254056 United States 06/26/2012 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Earlier, German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble also called for there to be a European finance minister, with the power to veto national budgets as well as an elected president of Europe. Quoting: [link to www.bbc.co.uk] I wonder which country those 2 individuals would come from... If you think these plans benefit Germany you are stupid. No, but being the European finance minister and president of Europe would benefit Germany. "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." - James Madison “The first time you blow someone away is not an insignificant event. That said, there are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.” - Marine Gen. James Mattis |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18624027 Germany 06/26/2012 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well the ESM is the perfect financial Diktatorship! When the ESM need money it just tells it needs money and whatever country is selected has to pay. The ESM kann noch be sewed and is freed of all and any TAX. Cha Ching On Thursday I am going to empty my savings account. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18610044 Germany 06/26/2012 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Earlier, German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble also called for there to be a European finance minister, with the power to veto national budgets as well as an elected president of Europe. Quoting: [link to www.bbc.co.uk] I wonder which country those 2 individuals would come from... If you think these plans benefit Germany you are stupid. No, but being the European finance minister and president of Europe would benefit Germany. No it wouldnt, if these people would be traitors. Schaeuble and Merkel are traitors to Germany. They are loyal to the globalist NWO. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18230679 United Kingdom 06/26/2012 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And I guess all these changes, and all this power shift to Brussels will still not trigger a referendum in the UK, regardless of promise, they'll weasell their way out of it because it doesn't directly impact us, which is complete cobblers, such changes impact everyone.. I hope those fighting will find a legal way to trigger a referendum.. in or out.. :) OUT..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18490641 England. You guys better not get sucked into that horse shit. They'll try & bleed you dry too. no fucking way and it's the UK, not england. EU can suck my rigid middle digid |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18230679 United Kingdom 06/26/2012 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do they really think individual countries are going to give up their say so for how they run their finances? The leaders might give in, but hopefully the people won't. Quoting: Cybermerc Human stupidity knows no bounds. They don't know how precious Sovereignty is until it's gone. Usually they figure it out when it's to late. Yes and a good point. BUT this is also a scam by the ECB to con these nations into selling their Gold for ECB loans. This is the end game and the plan for the PTB. Soon all of Europe will be without Gold and replaced with more debt..... F***ing eejits here keep saying yes. We say no in protests and then vote yes. Hopefully UK will ruin their plans. the vote is fixed ALL votes are fixed they get whatever result they WANT! |