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Social Security Disability Recipients to Take 21-percent Cut

 
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Social Security Disability Recipients to Take 21-percent Cut
In April the trustees of Social Security and Medicare announced that beneficiaries of those programs face a cut in their benefits of about 25 percent by 2033 if Congress does nothing. But buried in their report was their estimate that beneficiaries receiving disability benefits under Social Security, known as the Social Security Disability Insurance program (SSDI), will see their checks reduced much sooner — by 21 percent within four years — because of burgeoning disability claims.

Pamela Villarreal, writing for the National Center for Policy Analysis, explained that a number of factors are behind the explosion in disability claims – nearly 1 million in just the last three years — including the broadening of the definition of “disability,” the expiration of unemployment benefits, the impact of the Great Recession on the jobs market, the lack of accountability by the Social Security Administration, malingering by the program’s recipients, and the unwillingness of Congress to face reality.

She explained:

Since the mid-1950s, the program has expanded and now covers workers under the age of 50, disabled spouses of deceased workers and disabled children who were never able to work.

Disability now includes mental impairments as well as physical ones. But even with better treatments … few people ever leave the rolls, except through retirement.

The program, funded federally but administered by the states, is being milked by many who have run out of unemployment benefits and other resources and haven’t been able to find work. At present one out of every eight working-age, nonretired individuals receive disability payments, some for “mental disorders” and “back pain.” Claims for mental disorders, for instance, have more than tripled from 10 percent of cases in 1982 to 32.8 percent in 2012, with half of those based on “mood disorders” such as depression or anxiety.


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so what are your thoughts on this?
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they need to work
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they need to work
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Do you mean they 'ought' to work, or they 'should' work?

Clearly, they don't 'need' to work.
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Get RID of the FREAKING ILLEGAL ALIENS like ticks on a dog draining our social security's life blood... and going to leave us a drained husk and all the FREAKING ILLEGAL ALIENS having sent all our money back to Mexico and every other shithole.

GET RID OF THE ILLEGAL ALIENS.

SEAL THE BORDERS.

PUT TARIFFS ON ALL IMPORTED GOODS.

REMOVE ALL REGULATIONS FROM MANUFACTURING.

SEE AMERICAN ECONOMIC POWER GROW.
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Get RID of the FREAKING ILLEGAL ALIENS like ticks on a dog draining our social security's life blood... and going to leave us a drained husk and all the FREAKING ILLEGAL ALIENS having sent all our money back to Mexico and every other shithole.

GET RID OF THE ILLEGAL ALIENS.

SEAL THE BORDERS.

PUT TARIFFS ON ALL IMPORTED GOODS.

REMOVE ALL REGULATIONS FROM MANUFACTURING.

SEE AMERICAN ECONOMIC POWER GROW.
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THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

No SSDI stuff should matter to anyone right now with all the money being siphoned off for the above!!!!! Don't mess with our own until we get rid of the real pork!--------ONLY then should we look at what is going on with our own.
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they need to work
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Do you mean they 'ought' to work, or they 'should' work?

Clearly, they don't 'need' to work.
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Some people really are disabled and can't work.

This is a nightmare - no doubt. A lot of very sick people are going to suffer even more than they are now. I know a number of people on disability that shouldn't really be on it. I don't understand how they decide what is and isn't a disability.
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they need to work
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Do you mean they 'ought' to work, or they 'should' work?

Clearly, they don't 'need' to work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1577797

Some people really are disabled and can't work.

This is a nightmare - no doubt. A lot of very sick people are going to suffer even more than they are now. I know a number of people on disability that shouldn't really be on it. I don't understand how they decide what is and isn't a disability.
 Quoting: Éireann


If you problem keeps you from getting hired or if hired being able to hold on to a job, that's a good reason right there. The same people that bitch about people that are on disability are the same people that bitch that they miss to much work or can't pull their weight with the team. When you look at it like that, it's easy to understand. Jobs are demanding more and more out of people and some people are in a lot of pain (or other things). People can't always see what's going on but if someone is unreliable because of their condition, how are they suppose to hold a job? People think you have to be a quadraparlegic or something. Just the other day, someone posted that a nurse that performs abortions should be fired because she's a sociopath? Really? What other field would they like this person to go into, then because that's probly the best field for someone like that! If you don't want to have your tax dollars paying for your co-worker that you don't think is as good as you--then quit trying to get them fired! Stop bitchin'.
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so what are your thoughts on this?
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It will eventually be cut altogether

It is one of the most abused programs out there and it is too bad for those who really need it...

but the lazy slugs who get on it and abuse its resources are tapping it dry and

soon it will be cut altogether

and the truly disabled will suffer

these are my thoughts on it
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so what are your thoughts on this?
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It will eventually be cut altogether

It is one of the most abused programs out there and it is too bad for those who really need it...

but the lazy slugs who get on it and abuse its resources are tapping it dry and

soon it will be cut altogether

and the truly disabled will suffer

these are my thoughts on it
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I use to work in the health care arena...

and did see first hand those representatives who truly needed it...

and those specimens who were too lazy to work who did not need it but were able to fix their information enough to get on it...
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they need to work
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Do you mean they 'ought' to work, or they 'should' work?

Clearly, they don't 'need' to work.
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Wonder where we are going to find that many jobs.
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Unless you are living it, you don't really know if someone needs it. Just know that much.
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Unless you are living it, you don't really know if someone needs it. Just know that much.
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Totally agree.Anyone has a good day here and there.Just because someone is looking okay today doesnt mean they are able to work 8 hours tomorrow or even 2 hours.
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Unless you are living it, you don't really know if someone needs it. Just know that much.
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Totally agree.Anyone has a good day here and there.Just because someone is looking okay today doesnt mean they are able to work 8 hours tomorrow or even 2 hours.
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You can even LOOK fine at the grocery store but all of the movements and lifting and everything else can be so painful by the time you get home you can barely put them away let alone do any house chores or anything else but if you can't meet someone for lunch and they saw you shopping earlier they think your using it as an excuse--they have absolutely NO idea and you can't make them understand.
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some people really need their SSDI
hell they have worked for it
but some are just abusing the system
and making it rough for the ones that do
the question is how to weed them out
i know several people that have never worked a day in their life and are drawing a check
a couple of them still work and draw it WTF
and even a couple drawing and running their own business
one of them i know for a fact is healthy as a horse
and draws over $900 a month

WOW what a fucked up system
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50 years ago SSDI did not exist

what did all those ; lazies do?
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our politicians are sucking us dry
wait till the 401k's get hit again
the stock market is only up because of the speculators
and the fed pumping money into it to prop it up
but eventually that prop wont be able to hold the weight and will collapse


peace
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so what are your thoughts on this?
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i told ppl here of a convo back in 2009 i overheard from politicians in HBG pa.....that the soc sec admin will have a universal pmt benefit regardless of quarters, money paid in, yrs worked etc. nor geographic location

the $$ amount discussed was 750-1000 across the board.

watch it happen. this goes for retirees/disabled - not to be confused with ssi
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1. these "cuts" are reduced increases

2. when the feds are out of money, what do you want them to do ???
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Get RID of the FREAKING ILLEGAL ALIENS like ticks on a dog draining our social security's life blood... and going to leave us a drained husk and all the FREAKING ILLEGAL ALIENS having sent all our money back to Mexico and every other shithole.

GET RID OF THE ILLEGAL ALIENS.

SEAL THE BORDERS.

PUT TARIFFS ON ALL IMPORTED GOODS.

REMOVE ALL REGULATIONS FROM MANUFACTURING.

SEE AMERICAN ECONOMIC POWER GROW.
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The other day at work I said something like "Well, we wouldn't have to have a pay cut if they would stop spending so much money on the illegal alien's healthcare and rent subsidies." You should have felt the icicles and dirty looks! I knew I worked with some fairly liberal folks but you would have thought I had suggested we skewer all the illegals and barbeque them, the way they looked at me. Just sayin'....
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so what are your thoughts on this?
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Well, if the government - pic whatever party or administration - left the Social Security fund alone and quit looting it, this would not need to happen. Should not happen anyway.
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they are gonna steal every cent and leave us high and dry
begging for their crumbs
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so what are your thoughts on this?
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And the prison population keeps getting more spending to take care of evil talk monkeys. No cuts for the little wolfs
The revealing is going to happen and then all will be set right..Truth is truth and it will not sit by
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so what are your thoughts on this?
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anyone ON ssd will tell you how hard it was to get and the amount of waiting and bs
and want to know WHO IS GIVING ssd AWAY ?
let them get after them.


but of COURSE,muck around with the truly disabled and continue the shamnesty game and full financial,medical ,social services,foodstamps,medicaid,wic etc FOR THEM.
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Therefore government workers should take a 42% cut they would still earn more than their private counterparts.
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the checks may still go out but I'll bet our money becomes worthless....
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so what are your thoughts on this?
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My thoughts on this is that it's ALREADY impossible to live on SSDI if you make the minimum amount ($678). And they plan to cut THAT by 21%???

They will FORCE people into becoming thieves. And then the thieves will end up in jail, costing the taxpayers FAR more than SSDI ever dreamed of.
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they need to work
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If you think that trying to live off of SSDI is PREFERABLE to being able to work, you are one sorely misinformed dumbass.
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they need to work
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Do you mean they 'ought' to work, or they 'should' work?

Clearly, they don't 'need' to work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1577797

Some people really are disabled and can't work.

This is a nightmare - no doubt. A lot of very sick people are going to suffer even more than they are now. I know a number of people on disability that shouldn't really be on it. I don't understand how they decide what is and isn't a disability.
 Quoting: Éireann


If you problem keeps you from getting hired or if hired being able to hold on to a job, that's a good reason right there. The same people that bitch about people that are on disability are the same people that bitch that they miss to much work or can't pull their weight with the team. When you look at it like that, it's easy to understand. Jobs are demanding more and more out of people and some people are in a lot of pain (or other things). People can't always see what's going on but if someone is unreliable because of their condition, how are they suppose to hold a job? People think you have to be a quadraparlegic or something. Just the other day, someone posted that a nurse that performs abortions should be fired because she's a sociopath? Really? What other field would they like this person to go into, then because that's probly the best field for someone like that! If you don't want to have your tax dollars paying for your co-worker that you don't think is as good as you--then quit trying to get them fired! Stop bitchin'.
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Well said.
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1. these "cuts" are reduced increases

2. when the feds are out of money, what do you want them to do ???
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Ohhh... brother.

The FEDS are the ones who have robbed SS blind!

And the REAL rate of inflation is ALREADY far above the yearly increases in SSDI. In fact, for two years straight, inflation continued to rise, and SSDI payments STAYED the same. And then when they DO finally raise it again, it's by a ridiculous 2.3 percent. After 3 YEARS!
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Get RID of the FREAKING ILLEGAL ALIENS like ticks on a dog draining our social security's life blood... and going to leave us a drained husk and all the FREAKING ILLEGAL ALIENS having sent all our money back to Mexico and every other shithole.

GET RID OF THE ILLEGAL ALIENS.

SEAL THE BORDERS.

PUT TARIFFS ON ALL IMPORTED GOODS.

REMOVE ALL REGULATIONS FROM MANUFACTURING.

SEE AMERICAN ECONOMIC POWER GROW.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13582415


The other day at work I said something like "Well, we wouldn't have to have a pay cut if they would stop spending so much money on the illegal alien's healthcare and rent subsidies." You should have felt the icicles and dirty looks! I knew I worked with some fairly liberal folks but you would have thought I had suggested we skewer all the illegals and barbeque them, the way they looked at me. Just sayin'....
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