Highly Pathogenic flu strain H7N3 being blamed for over (update: 870,000) bird deaths in Mexico | |
ladyannie2009 (OP) User ID: 18457264 United States 06/27/2012 02:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "the truth will stand up, when nothing else will" - annie's mom "When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt. But that is not what great ships are built for." - Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes |
ladyannie2009 (OP) User ID: 18457264 United States 06/27/2012 02:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's a case study I just found. It's from 2004, but has LOTS information in it for those that are interested. <snip> Highly pathogenic avian influenza A viruses of subtypes H5 and H7 are the causative agents of fowl plague in poultry. Influenza A viruses of subtype H5N1 also caused severe respiratory disease in humans in Hong Kong in 1997 and 2003, including at least seven fatal cases, posing a serious human pandemic threat. Between the end of February and the end of May 2003, a fowl plague outbreak occurred in The Netherlands. A highly pathogenic avian influenza A virus of subtype H7N7, closely related to low pathogenic virus isolates obtained from wild ducks, was isolated from chickens. The same virus was detected subsequently in 86 humans who handled affected poultry and in three of their family members. Of these 89 patients, 78 presented with conjunctivitis, 5 presented with conjunctivitis and influenza-like illness, 2 presented with influenza-like illness, and 4 did not fit the case definitions. Influenza-like illnesses were generally mild, but a fatal case of pneumonia in combination with acute respiratory distress syndrome occurred also. Most virus isolates obtained from humans, including probable secondary cases, had not accumulated significant mutations. However, the virus isolated from the fatal case displayed 14 amino acid substitutions, some of which may be associated with enhanced disease in this case. Because H7N7 viruses have caused disease in mammals, including horses, seals, and humans, on several occasions in the past, they may be unusual in their zoonotic potential and, thus, form a pandemic threat to humans. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] "the truth will stand up, when nothing else will" - annie's mom "When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt. But that is not what great ships are built for." - Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes |
ladyannie2009 (OP) User ID: 18457264 United States 06/27/2012 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Highly contagious to birds....doesn't appear very threatening to humans (although it CAN jump species) <snip> According to background information from the US Department of Agriculture (USDA), poultry imported from all countries except Canada must be quarantined for at least 30 days at a USDA Animal Import Center and be accompanied by import permits and veterinary health certificates. Canadian poultry entering the United States must be accompanied by a veterinary health certificate issued within 30 days of import date. In 2004, highly pathogenic H7N3 outbreaks in British Columbia's Fraser Valley led to the culling of 19 million birds, and two related human infections were confirmed. The patients, both men who had been exposed to infected poultry on the farms, were the first known H7N3 infections in humans. Both had conjunctivitis with mild flulike symptoms, according to a December 2004 report on the cases in Emerging Infectious Diseases. Neither patient mounted an H7 antibody response, which led researchers to suggest that the men had highly localized, rather than systemic, infections. [link to www.cidrap.umn.edu] "the truth will stand up, when nothing else will" - annie's mom "When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt. But that is not what great ships are built for." - Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18219491 Japan 06/28/2012 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a cover up.. Bees, fish, birds, etc are dying because the World (Universe) is devoid of its spirit and things are running on artificial controls but the good news is the Truth will be there for you to see if you're not too busy to realize it. |
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Chrit User ID: 15366081 United States 06/28/2012 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this strain of bird flu gets on to the poultry farms we will lose billions. The less scary form of this H5N3 was the reason Taiwan killed nearly every farm bird in their country on 2004. If this is the highly contagious version it will spread to migrating birds and be carried all over. [link to www.enotes.com] Last Edited by Chrit on 06/28/2012 01:16 PM I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw. We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three. |
grefey User ID: 12865962 United States 06/28/2012 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is part of the depopulation agenda in 2 ways: 1.) Possibley contagious to humans. 2.) Famine - a lot of these types of diseases will result in the culling of these flocks and limiting the amount of healthy protien availble for human consumption. Now all we need is foot and mouth disease and a few more and there will be no more source of protien available for consumption. |
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grefey User ID: 12865962 United States 06/28/2012 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this strain of bird flu gets on to the poultry farms we will lose billions. Quoting: Chrit The less scary form of this H5N3 was the reason Taiwan killed nearly every farm bird in their country on 2004. If this is the highly contagious version it will spread to migrating birds and be carried all over. [link to www.enotes.com] If I was to take a wild guess, this entire thing could be intentional and may not lead to indigenous bird infections. Time will tell, however, aersol infection is an easy thing to accomplish under conditions in whih fowl are being raised on factory farms. This will result in the culling of all locally raised foul by the small rural farmers under the rouse of stopping infection. Watch and see this is how the CDC and the D of Ag. operate. This will turn out to be a direct assult on food supplys and result in shortages of protien in the future. This is what Agenda 21 and Codex Alimentarius and other ledgislation is all about. I was a Veterinarian for 30 years. |
Treyfish User ID: 14756837 United States 06/28/2012 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pretty serious outbreak. Lax Mexican farming practices assure this will spread. Our open border and smuggling of anything, any kind of way, almost guarantee some form of it will reach the U.S. It will be in other central american countries in no time. Chicken in Amerika is loaded with vaccines and steroids that these other countries don't have. This is not H5N1, but could be soon enuff. It is killing birds everywhere BUT north america? Why is that? Our gov't would not admit H5N1 was found within 3000 miles of here if I presented absolute proof. Once this shit gets into some pigs, and wallows around for a few weeks, it will cause more than conjunctivitis and flu like symptoms.Pigs and chickens are regularly farmed together, hand in hand. I would watch it with both eyes |
ladyannie2009 (OP) User ID: 18457264 United States 06/28/2012 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here's something I just found...was posted yesterday (june 27th)...Wisconsin Congressman (Sesenbrenner) critical of the handling regarding research pappers on H5N1. He also stated that 'congressional action could be required' <snip <50%> An influential member of the US Congress remains dissatisfied with the government’s handling of two research papers on mutant forms of avian influenza, and is threatening legislation to control the controversial research. Jim Sensenbrenner (Republican, Wisconsin) today said that the lack of a cohesive policy for handling risky research funded by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and other federal agencies could necessitate new laws, a situation that researchers have been trying to avoid. “I prefer not to pursue legislation on this issue, with the hopes the scientific community can create its own approach. But failing a consequential … policy, Congressional action could be required,” Sensenbrenner told Nature in a statement. The second of the controversial papers showing that H5N1, or ‘bird flu’, can spread through the air between mammals was published last week, providing some closure to the months-long debate about the work and whether its publication would result in the proliferation of dangerous viruses and increased risk of an accidental or intentional release. Sensenbrenner says not enough work has been done to ensure that such controversies don’t arise again. [link to blogs.nature.com] **** here's some more information--(can't snip the one that I'd like to share, but if you go to the US disease experts There's an updated version released today. But here is a paraphrase, and another more 'friendlier' link for the information. Article (posted today) says that with the highly contagious strain of bird flu, that a global pandemic is VERY possible. Goes on to say that altho there has yet to be a global outbreak, that it COULD happen at any time. [link to thegreatdayofannihilation.com] **** let me just add this: I've been researching this, and there's some very conflicting information out there. Hard to know what to believe/not believe. also--if you try and do your own research, you may want to search 'bird flu' or 'mexican poultry epidemic' something like that. There's many strains already out there of what initially began as H1N1, and unless you're searching the exact viral strain, your search may not produce much. Broader search term = more results "the truth will stand up, when nothing else will" - annie's mom "When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt. But that is not what great ships are built for." - Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes |
grefey User ID: 12865962 United States 06/28/2012 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pretty serious outbreak. Lax Mexican farming practices assure this will spread. Our open border and smuggling of anything, any kind of way, almost guarantee some form of it will reach the U.S. It will be in other central american countries in no time. Chicken in Amerika is loaded with vaccines and steroids that these other countries don't have. This is not H5N1, but could be soon enuff. It is killing birds everywhere BUT north america? Why is that? Our gov't would not admit H5N1 was found within 3000 miles of here if I presented absolute proof. Once this shit gets into some pigs, and wallows around for a few weeks, it will cause more than conjunctivitis and flu like symptoms.Pigs and chickens are regularly farmed together, hand in hand. I would watch it with both eyes Quoting: Treyfish 14756837 This will spread and into the U.S. if TPTB want it to. It will wipe out entire factory farms and the cost of animal protein will go through the roof. All the legislation over the past years has made small family farms subjected to extreme regulation(to what end). Do you know it was the CDC that dug up an Inuit women who died of the Spanish Flu(SWINE fLU) BACK IN THE 90'S AND REPRODUCED IT. i WONDER WHY THEY WOULD DO THAT? PERHAPS SO THEY COULD COMBINE IT WITH THE AVIAN FLU AND GET H5N1, H2N7, H45N78, H33N911. DO YOU CATCH MY DRIFT? CDC EXHUMES INUIT WHO DIED FROM SPANISH FLU(SWINE FLU) [link to en.wikipedia.org] Last Edited by grefey on 06/28/2012 02:06 PM |
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2342 User ID: 1649286 United States 06/28/2012 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow....this could be VERY bad. Being described as the largest outbreak in almost 20 years Quoting: ladyannie2009 <snip> MEXICO – Mexican veterinary authorities are intensifying avian influenza control efforts in a region that houses several large commercial farms after further tests determined that the strain responsible for more than 200,000 bird deaths at three farms is the highly pathogenic H7N3 subtype. The events represent the first highly pathogenic avian influenza outbreaks in Mexican flocks since the country battled H5N2 in the mid 1990s. In a follow-up report submitted today to the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE), Mexican animal health officials said intravenous pathogenicity tests revealed the highly pathogenic H7N3 subtype. The initial report on Jun 21 said preliminary tests suggested a low-pathogenic H7 subtype. The outbreaks began at three large commercial farms in Jalisco state on Jun 13, causing clinical signs in the layer flocks that included gasping, lethargy, fever, and death. [link to exaltedtruth.com] Its all apart of the plan. Shhh www.youtube.com/clandestinetimelord |
grefey User ID: 12865962 United States 06/28/2012 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even though WW1 was one of the bloodiest wars in history and killed 35 million. The Spanish Flu of 1918 killed about 40 million. They have very effective ways to eradicate, decimate and severely traumatize population as they see fit. As one can see fro a cursory view of the history of the early 1900's. "The flu was most deadly for people ages 20 to 40. This pattern of morbidity was unusual for influenza which is usually a killer of the elderly and young children. It infected 28% of all Americans (Tice). An estimated 675,000 Americans died of influenza during the pandemic, ten times as many as in the world war. Of the U.S. soldiers who died in Europe, half of them fell to the influenza virus and not to the enemy (Deseret News). An estimated 43,000 servicemen mobilized for WWI died of influenza (Crosby). 1918 would go down as unforgettable year of suffering and death and yet of peace. As noted in the Journal of the American Medical Association final edition of 1918": Most don't realize that the Spanish flu first broke out in the U.S. on Military bases in Kansas(that is way it's was really swine flu as people got it from the swine). The U.S. Army spread the disease worldwide with the movement of their troops world wide. [link to virus.stanford.edu] Last Edited by grefey on 06/28/2012 03:34 PM |
Treyfish User ID: 14756837 United States 06/28/2012 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Confirmed outbreak of bird flu in Jalisco June 28, 2012 MEXICO CITY-After confirmation of the presence of avian influenza type H7N3 in three poultry farms and municipalities Tepatitlán Acatic in Jalisco, the leading egg producer nationwide, the authorities launched the National Emergency Animal Health 110 farms in the state. According to statements by the Secretary of Health of Jalisco, Antonio Muñoz 2.5 million birds have been culled since to contain the spread. Meanwhile, federal authorities of the Ministry of Agriculture and the National Health Service, Food Safety and Food Quality (SENASICA) met yesterday with producers in the region today and is expected to disclose more information... [link to www.vanguardia.com.mx] |
Treyfish User ID: 14756837 United States 06/28/2012 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ..SENASICA representatives established a perimeter quarantine aviaries 110 centers, where carrying a 80 percent advance of the inspection. According to theSENASICA only 4 poultry farms have confirmed the presence of the AH7N3 virus, however, on a tour in Tepatitlan, producers warned an involvement in 30 of the 48 farms established in the township. Jalisco is estimated that there are more than 80million birds, and in the towns of Ajijic and Tepatitlán calculate a universe of 12 million poultry... [link to www.latarde.com.mx] Already denials of human cases |
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Treyfish User ID: 14756837 United States 06/28/2012 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is about Mexico h7n3, not h5n1 mutations |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17418121 Ireland 06/28/2012 03:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a cover up.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18219491 Bees, fish, birds, etc are dying because the World (Universe) is devoid of its spirit and things are running on artificial controls but the good news is the Truth will be there for you to see if you're not too busy to realize it. Absolutely......it is written so it shall be done. :-) |
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ladyannie2009 (OP) User ID: 18457264 United States 06/28/2012 03:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes, I realize this. I only made the suggestion because there were a few sites I had visited that were reporting on this most recent outbreak in Mexico, but they were making reference to the wrong strain. I should have mentioned that in my follow-up post and I didn't. thanks for clearing that up tho "the truth will stand up, when nothing else will" - annie's mom "When a great ship is in harbor and moored, it is safe, there can be no doubt. But that is not what great ships are built for." - Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15778489 United Kingdom 06/28/2012 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It only take one human to get infected with this for it to mumtate and spread this form. Wish it would as the human race has become a cespit ruled by corruption. my only hope is that those elitist die first and leave those less fortunate to survive to run thr world as it should be run. |
Treyfish User ID: 14756837 United States 06/28/2012 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Japan blocks Mexican chicken meat. Many other countries will soon say the same. I wonder how much the U.S. takes in and if they will say the same. |
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