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Is choosing to have a child a selfish act in the modern world?

 
No Ego
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06/27/2012 06:52 PM
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Re: Is choosing to have a child a selfish act in the modern world?
I just had a vasectomy because I know for sure I don't want kids. Poeple have their own reasons and it is completly wrong for others to judge those that don't want kids. Judging is ignorance! We should move past puting individual beliefs and ideas of right or wrong onto others. People have kids( those that though to never have them) and realize how empty they were or could have been in their life. But don't put that personal realization on others. It is interesting that someons says that it is selfish to not give someone life. I guess they had a meeeting with the not yet conceived and felt guilt? Selfish would fall under the judgement umbrella of having kids so someone looks ofter you when your old!

I see there is still alot of consciousness growth needed here on Earth. The next 6 months are going to be very difficult for alot of people here a it appears. Doom and Gloom? NO, this is not what will be but for those with unawares of what and why things will be happening during this time period. We will be transitioning into anew consciousness that will be wonerful!!

I want to advise on something that is known. The indigenous peoples that are attuned to this reality change are not having kids untill this is transitioned.What does that tell you.
queenbee
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06/27/2012 07:09 PM
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Re: Is choosing to have a child a selfish act in the modern world?
Baloney. The urge to have sex, yes. Humans are not animals with instinctual needs to procreate.

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 Quoting: gus 18686485


guys please realize that you can't extrapolate how women feel by how YOU feel.

i've got news for you.

many women (i know this because i was one of them) want babies AS MUCH AS YOU WANT SEX

ying and yang

men love sex
women love babies

put em together and whadda you get?

breakfast cereals, dirty dishes, load after load of laundry, saturday morning cartoons, colonizing new lands...
Anonymous Coward
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06/27/2012 07:20 PM
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Re: Is choosing to have a child a selfish act in the modern world?
I didn't make my kid on purpose. That said there was no way I could end her existence before I gave birth. Knowing what I now today (she is now almost 19) she states that she is glad she is alive and hopes the world comes to an end so she gets a chance to witness it during her lifetime. This kid knows that her body is merely a vehicle so no...I don't worry about her. We will find each other if TSHTF. So I don't think it was selfish....It is selfish if you just can't provide for them while they are here however and you know that....
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06/27/2012 07:21 PM
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Re: Is choosing to have a child a selfish act in the modern world?
Not having a child, or having abortion is the selfish act.
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and forgoing motherhood to have a career is the ultimate selfish act.

this slippery slope is what is and will destroy our western culture.

there is no need to have a war.

no kids in the pipeline--no society---its pretty self explanatory--but of course the university geniuses study hard and spend ridiculous amounts of time thinking up ways to justify their selfishness no child worldview.

check the projections--in 30 odd years the demographics will be predominately muslim

sharia law here we come

well done feminists and all manner of sexual "norms"

well done.

there is a reason the saying "careful what you wish for " is a mainstay.

fools.
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06/27/2012 07:36 PM
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Bringing life into this world ensures you another trip here when you pass away. Its the ultimate karma
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Drunkwraith
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06/27/2012 07:37 PM
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Re: Is choosing to have a child a selfish act in the modern world?
At this point in time it is completely selfish to have kids. For starters, the world is severely over populated and how we went this long without going into a worldwide depression is beyond me. Another thing is that the youth are the ones that will have to try and make amends and pay off the insane amount of debt that all of these 40 year old+ politicians have piled on us. Imagine twenty years from now when there are literally twice as many politicians than there are now, do you think they'll make a better world? Not to mention our youth literally has never been as dumb as it is now. I graduated high school a little over a month ago, I've seen it first hand. My good friend graduated with honors a few years ago and he's dumb as rocks and I have to constantly correct him on everything even though I barely managed to graduate. Bringing kids into this American education system is the worst thing you can do because it's only going to pile on the consistent downgrading of society. I can't speak for other countries because I've never left the U.S. and therefore have no personal experience to speak from.
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There is truth in what you say, however I believe you missed the point. You see the hopelessness of your future, and because of that, you will never see anything else. The truth is, tomorrow was never promised, and because of that so many young people only live for today, casting their futures of hopelessness onto a sea of apathy. Nothing ever changes, it only gets worse, what's the use? The use is the hope and dream for a better tomorrow. It can't come from bitching about how hard it is. Who the hell said life was suppose to be easy? It hasn't been for your parents, your grandparents, so why the hell do you think it should be for you? And that is the very reason why a child should be raised at this time. Let it see the darkness in others soul and know that it doesn't have to be that way. Teach the child to learn to know the difference between the hope for tomorrow, and the curse of yesterday. Just because your life is not a bed of roses doesn't give you the right to destroy everyone's tomorrow.
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You do make valid points. My main reason as to why we shouldn't be having kids is simply overpopulation. All having more kids is going to do is add to every problem you can think of. For example, if you have one kid, its not impossible by any means to make sure they're healthy, intelligent, well behaved, etc. If you have 10 kids there isn't even enough time in the day to show half of them the attention they need. Put this on a global scale and you get catastrophe. In schools, teachers struggle to help people pass because every class is packed full and the only way you get help on your work is if you ask before everyone else. Half of the time teachers ignore students asking questions, because they have to move on to other lessons. You can't expect people to wise up in these times, because the wise people are getting fewer and fewer every day. You have to be a part of todays youth to really understand how corrupt they really are. All I ever heard about at school was sex, parties, drugs, and drama. When I was younger it was just tv and sports. Do you really believe adding more people is going to fix this? Like anybody I'm hoping for the best, but I don't have high expectations considering we're so dumb that we give shows like Teen Mom and Jersey Shore millions upon millions of views every time they air.
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06/27/2012 07:43 PM
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Re: Is choosing to have a child a selfish act in the modern world?
IMO, it is selfish, only if you can't afford to pay the kid-freight, yourself, and leech off taxpayer-money.

Also, I'm glad I'm almost 60 and have no kids.

The latest generation are going to have to be the fighters, and martyrs.
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06/27/2012 09:09 PM
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I think everyone thinking of having children should watch Idiocracy. If you don't get it, don't have kids. If you do get it, please try to keep Idiocracy from becoming a true story of our future. We have enough kids in America that depend on the government for their very lives. Please do not make any more. If you and your spouse have above average IQs please help us repopulate the world with people that are smart enough to keep the world running. If your IQ is in the low double digits, or high single digits, please do not procreate. We have enough of your kind in Washington DC. There is no more room in the white house or the cabinet.
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06/27/2012 11:24 PM
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Re: Is choosing to have a child a selfish act in the modern world?
Selfish? No.
Stupid? Yes
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06/28/2012 10:04 AM
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Re: Is choosing to have a child a selfish act in the modern world?
Here are some points to consider:

1. (Assuming doom) Do you want your kids to grow up in doomtimes?

2. Do you really think you won't make a fuck-up of a child?

3. Given the vast array of subcultures, sexuality and gender orientations, and lack of fixed social norms, wouldn't you be subjecting a kid to a series of impossible decisions?

4. Could you really give them a life worth living?
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1) Who would want that for their children honestly? I don't want kids because of the world is currently, not the constant "doom" nonsense. We live in a world where we accept homosexuality, gender bending, and where rape and murder is daily news that we laugh at. Why would I want to introduce a innocent soul to this cesspool of a world?

2) With my family I could raise a child and keep him semi-unfucked up. The question is would he CHOOSE not to go down that path once he is free.

3) Not impossible but its a challenge my parents never had to worry about when I was kid. I would raise him in the Christian faith, so he will have all the knowledge needed to protect himself from this problem, and I wont mask my thoughts on the matter. I wont tell him its ok that Billy has two daddies, or that Sussie was really born a man inside because society thinks its ok and natural. I would tell him I don't care if two men get "married" but I will tell him its not REAL marriage in God's eye nor is it a Godly union.

4) Not good enough...we're in a uncertain part of history and I think its irresponsible to bring a child into this world. Did you know in Greece they're abandoning their children and some parents are killing their children because they can't feed them and its less painful than starving to death. Don't think this can't happen in your country because it can happen anywhere and to anyone.
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Homosexuality isn't wrong, but your bullshit christian faith is.
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Yes, it is, pedo.
Anonymous Coward
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06/28/2012 10:25 AM
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Re: Is choosing to have a child a selfish act in the modern world?
Is finding fault in other people having children selfish?
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06/28/2012 10:57 AM
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Re: Is choosing to have a child a selfish act in the modern world?
spawn children in a shitty enviroment like our world today... that could be described selfish, evil or extremely stupid

and now stfu and stop speaking with your cock / uterus, start seeing how shitty is our world today and realize that more people won't fix the main problems, maybe less people will
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06/29/2012 10:08 AM
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Re: Is choosing to have a child a selfish act in the modern world?
spawn children in a shitty enviroment like our world today... that could be described selfish, evil or extremely stupid

and now stfu and stop speaking with your cock / uterus, start seeing how shitty is our world today and realize that more people won't fix the main problems, maybe less people will
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18449936
That's the result of people like you, with opinions like yours.





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