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I would like to offer some statistics, that hopefully will give a little perspective to the coming 2012 Presidential Election. I had a theory pop into my head this morning, and once I looked up the data behind it, I was amazed at the outcome.

Back during '07, when the campaigning for '08 was in full swing, it was an extremely difficult time for anyone opposed to Obama as President.

I know this, because I watched and felt it first hand. Most of what any of us discovered about him was never brought to light in the Media. And if any was... It was immediately silenced by the accusations of racism. This is why the Birther debate continued, why the Muslim debate continued, why all of the debates concerning his history continued.

Most of these issues were never publicly discussed, or fully explained prior to the election. Even those that were eventually put to rest, could have been silenced even sooner, if there had actually been some openess in the conversation. And more openess from Obama himself.

Claims continue, that racial motivations are behind these attacks, or any negativity directed at the Pres. And I can only imagine what It will be like once campaigning for this election year really gears up.

As I stated above I would like to address the claim that Obama is one of the most attacked Presidents in history, and why this might be, with some statistics that some might not be familiar.

I had a theory that the increases in attacks, may be due to an increased number of American's having access to the net, and being able to do their own research on the candidates, and here is what I found...

1992 - Clinton/George H Bush/Perot
2% - Of American Households Had Internet

1996 - Clinton/Dole/Perot
26%

2000 - George W. Bush/Gore/Nader
44%

2004 - George W. Bush/Kerry
68%

2008 - Obama/McCain
72%

If you notice prior to 2004, there was such a small percentage of Americans who were actually connected to the net. So you can imagine, at that time, any information that the Majority of American's received about the candidates, was fed to them by the media.

It wasn't until 2004, that the percentages broke 50%, so there were alot of new net users out there. How many of those do you think had gotten over the shock and awe of email, net porn, chatrooms, and rotten.com, to actually use the net for research? Sure there were us conspiracy nuts, but we were few and far between, especially back then! And I'm not sure about you, but I skewered the hell out of Bush!

So please step back this coming election year... And rethink labeling anyone opposed to Obama, as a racist. It might be that we are just more informed then we were in the past.

To go from only 2% in the Clinton Era! To the almost 75% in Obama Era! I had the theory, but to actually see those numbers amazed me!
Hugs

The links to the statistical data used is here: if there was no Data for the actual election yr. I used the data from the closest yr. following. As to not skew the results in favor of my theory.


[link to www.nsf.gov]

[link to www.internetworldstats.com]

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so pree 1992 only the 1% had internet.....!
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I would like to offer some statistics, that hopefully will give a little perspective to the coming 2012 Presidential Election. I had a theory pop into my head this morning, and once I looked up the data behind it, I was amazed at the outcome.

Back during '07, when the campaigning for '08 was in full swing, it was an extremely difficult time for anyone opposed to Obama as President.

I know this, because I watched and felt it first hand. Most of what any of us discovered about him was never brought to light in the Media. And if any was... It was immediately silenced by the accusations of racism. This is why the Birther debate continued, why the Muslim debate continued, why all of the debates concerning his history continued.

Most of these issues were never publicly discussed, or fully explained prior to the election. Even those that were eventually put to rest, could have been silenced even sooner, if there had actually been some openess in the conversation. And more openess from Obama himself.

Claims continue, that racial motivations are behind these attacks, or any negativity directed at the Pres. And I can only imagine what It will be like once campaigning for this election year really gears up.

As I stated above I would like to address the claim that Obama is one of the most attacked Presidents in history, and why this might be, with some statistics that some might not be familiar.

I had a theory that the increases in attacks, may be due to an increased number of American's having access to the net, and being able to do their own research on the candidates, and here is what I found...

1992 - Clinton/George H Bush/Perot
2% - Of American Households Had Internet

1996 - Clinton/Dole/Perot
26%

2000 - George W. Bush/Gore/Nader
44%

2004 - George W. Bush/Kerry
68%

2008 - Obama/McCain
72%

If you notice prior to 2004, there was such a small percentage of Americans who were actually connected to the net. So you can imagine, at that time, any information that the Majority of American's received about the candidates, was fed to them by the media.

It wasn't until 2004, that the percentages broke 50%, so there were alot of new net users out there. How many of those do you think had gotten over the shock and awe of email, net porn, chatrooms, and rotten.com, to actually use the net for research? Sure there were us conspiracy nuts, but we were few and far between, especially back then! And I'm not sure about you, but I skewered the hell out of Bush!

So please step back this coming election year... And rethink labeling anyone opposed to Obama, as a racist. It might be that we are just more informed then we were in the past.

To go from only 2% in the Clinton Era! To the almost 75% in Obama Era! I had the theory, but to actually see those numbers amazed me!
Hugs

The links to the statistical data used is here: if there was no Data for the actual election yr. I used the data from the closest yr. following. As to not skew the results in favor of my theory.


[link to www.nsf.gov]

[link to www.internetworldstats.com]
 Quoting: SwampRatLost


WELL DONE SIR! you are on to something here! 5 stars.
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so pree 1992 only the 1% had internet.....!
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Yes... Crazy to think about now.
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I would like to offer some statistics, that hopefully will give a little perspective to the coming 2012 Presidential Election. I had a theory pop into my head this morning, and once I looked up the data behind it, I was amazed at the outcome.

Back during '07, when the campaigning for '08 was in full swing, it was an extremely difficult time for anyone opposed to Obama as President.

I know this, because I watched and felt it first hand. Most of what any of us discovered about him was never brought to light in the Media. And if any was... It was immediately silenced by the accusations of racism. This is why the Birther debate continued, why the Muslim debate continued, why all of the debates concerning his history continued.

Most of these issues were never publicly discussed, or fully explained prior to the election. Even those that were eventually put to rest, could have been silenced even sooner, if there had actually been some openess in the conversation. And more openess from Obama himself.

Claims continue, that racial motivations are behind these attacks, or any negativity directed at the Pres. And I can only imagine what It will be like once campaigning for this election year really gears up.

As I stated above I would like to address the claim that Obama is one of the most attacked Presidents in history, and why this might be, with some statistics that some might not be familiar.

I had a theory that the increases in attacks, may be due to an increased number of American's having access to the net, and being able to do their own research on the candidates, and here is what I found...

1992 - Clinton/George H Bush/Perot
2% - Of American Households Had Internet

1996 - Clinton/Dole/Perot
26%

2000 - George W. Bush/Gore/Nader
44%

2004 - George W. Bush/Kerry
68%

2008 - Obama/McCain
72%

If you notice prior to 2004, there was such a small percentage of Americans who were actually connected to the net. So you can imagine, at that time, any information that the Majority of American's received about the candidates, was fed to them by the media.

It wasn't until 2004, that the percentages broke 50%, so there were alot of new net users out there. How many of those do you think had gotten over the shock and awe of email, net porn, chatrooms, and rotten.com, to actually use the net for research? Sure there were us conspiracy nuts, but we were few and far between, especially back then! And I'm not sure about you, but I skewered the hell out of Bush!

So please step back this coming election year... And rethink labeling anyone opposed to Obama, as a racist. It might be that we are just more informed then we were in the past.

To go from only 2% in the Clinton Era! To the almost 75% in Obama Era! I had the theory, but to actually see those numbers amazed me!
Hugs

The links to the statistical data used is here: if there was no Data for the actual election yr. I used the data from the closest yr. following. As to not skew the results in favor of my theory.


[link to www.nsf.gov]

[link to www.internetworldstats.com]
 Quoting: SwampRatLost


WELL DONE SIR! you are on to something here! 5 stars.
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Thank you! Suggest a pin. I cant believe that other thread is pinned.
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Certainly makes a LOT more sense than the "they don't like him because EVERYONE (who's white) is racist" bullshit that's spoon-fed to us on a daily basis.
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bump

Hate to bump my own thread but with the other one pinned, I think this at least needs to stay on the front page

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democrats like him, republicans do not...ain't fucking rocket science, same old partisan bullshit here.
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If Obama was white he would STILL be a total FUCKHEAD!

Nuff said.
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You sure about this? That other guy said I didnt like him cause I was a racist so now I'm confused.
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You sure about this? That other guy said I didnt like him cause I was a racist so now I'm confused.
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Well are you racist? Do you dislike him because he's black? Its answers only you have.

But it is not my place, or anyone elses to assign anything to it, other then your own reasons.

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democrats like him, republicans do not...ain't fucking rocket science, same old partisan bullshit here.
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I think it goes much deeper then that.
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Interesting. I started using internet in 1996 in college. I used that slow ass modem during 1997-2000 years when I lived in an apartment when not using fast ones on campus. Amazing how much it had changed since then. Democrats for sure kept up with and first one to spread propaganda before conservatives realized what was going on. Conservatives prefer to live a quite life but they are being forced to give that up and fight liberal bullshit spewed everywhere on the internet.
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no shit white people voted him in
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Good sense OP...
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Good sense OP...
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hf

Thank you Chas. I had the theory, but the results of the research actually surprised the hell out of me. I had no clue that the stats would be that dramatic.
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i don't like him because he is a communist and am not white... but i know a communist when i see one ... used to be living under their rules for quite some time before escaping to the US....
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Uh... What does that mean?
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cum hoc ergo propter hoc

If Internet subscription status is your explanatory variable, and favorability status is your response variable, what have you done to eliminate the possibility of confounding variables within your analysis?

Have you tested you hypothesis against other explanatory variables? If so, please post the scatter plot matrices and summary results of your analyses.
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I hated Carter & Clinton. Why should I like Obummer. He is far worse
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Good one Wonker!

Wonder if he even sees his own stupidity right before all of our eyes. I see GLP hasn't changed much since I took a break.

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Perhaps I can offer you a counterpoint for consideration. Greater numbers of households having internet has just given people exposure to a larger amount of information, specifically information from media companies, where fewer and fewer groups are controlling more and more of the media we see. People have also been given the freedom to filter their own information, which causes greater incidents of people receiving information from only sources that they agree with politically, ideologically or otherwise, causing people to only receive information that a certain group deems important or that group has filtered to match their views. If anything, the rise of the internet has caused people to become less informed. The internet has also made it easier to spread falsehood and delude the masses, since, reputable media outlets cannot truly get away with blatantly lying to you or manipulating you (they have to be much more subtle), whereas on the internet, people can spread disinformation without having to tie it to a source. Furthermore, the number of people propagating this disinformation causes people to more easily believe it than if they heard it from one source, such as a journalist or a politician.

But, moving along. It appears your original intent was to prove that you are not a racist. Generally, I find that people most set on proving they are not something they have not been accused of are guilty of what they were trying to disprove. No one is labeling people opposed to Obama as a racist. You are just trying to promote the narrative that people are labeling Obama as a racist because you want to avoid the real issues that face this country. The fact that we are run by a bunch of idiots who want to spend us into extinction on one side, and a bunch of idiots who want to sell us into corporate slavery to the highest bidders on the other, with both sides blaming the other side for the shit they caused.

As far as your idiotic debates go... Well, the reason they are not continuing to be discussed is because any rational person moved on, including those on the right. No one in their right mind would leave America to have a baby in a mud hut in the middle of nowhere in Kenya shortly before childbirth. It is as simple as that. Why don't I believe the birther argument? Because if nothing else, even an idiot would be smart enough to say, "Hey, we can use this automatic citizenship and there is no reason to travel in this delicate condition to a third world shithole and have a child where mortality rates are so friggen high."
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No, it certainly isn't racism, SwampRatLost. hf
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No, it certainly isn't racism, SwampRatLost. hf
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Ahhh! Hi there Friend! Its been too long!hugs
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Perhaps I can offer you a counterpoint for consideration. Greater numbers of households having internet has just given people exposure to a larger amount of information, specifically information from media companies, where fewer and fewer groups are controlling more and more of the media we see. People have also been given the freedom to filter their own information, which causes greater incidents of people receiving information from only sources that they agree with politically, ideologically or otherwise, causing people to only receive information that a certain group deems important or that group has filtered to match their views. If anything, the rise of the internet has caused people to become less informed. The internet has also made it easier to spread falsehood and delude the masses, since, reputable media outlets cannot truly get away with blatantly lying to you or manipulating you (they have to be much more subtle), whereas on the internet, people can spread disinformation without having to tie it to a source. Furthermore, the number of people propagating this disinformation causes people to more easily believe it than if they heard it from one source, such as a journalist or a politician.

But, moving along. It appears your original intent was to prove that you are not a racist. Generally, I find that people most set on proving they are not something they have not been accused of are guilty of what they were trying to disprove. No one is labeling people opposed to Obama as a racist. You are just trying to promote the narrative that people are labeling Obama as a racist because you want to avoid the real issues that face this country. The fact that we are run by a bunch of idiots who want to spend us into extinction on one side, and a bunch of idiots who want to sell us into corporate slavery to the highest bidders on the other, with both sides blaming the other side for the shit they caused.

As far as your idiotic debates go... Well, the reason they are not continuing to be discussed is because any rational person moved on, including those on the right. No one in their right mind would leave America to have a baby in a mud hut in the middle of nowhere in Kenya shortly before childbirth. It is as simple as that. Why don't I believe the birther argument? Because if nothing else, even an idiot would be smart enough to say, "Hey, we can use this automatic citizenship and there is no reason to travel in this delicate condition to a third world shithole and have a child where mortality rates are so friggen high."
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So you want the news to come from one source, like a journalist or government? You don't like the freedom of the internet? Yeah, that's a good idea. Let's just have a ministry of propaganda. That will work well for your purposes.

Sounds to me like your ideological bent causes you to dislike the truth in the internet.

That would be because the leftist ideas can't stand the light. And so you attack it bitterly.

You sound like that obama creep who wanted to censor the internet and only give the goverernment version of the truth.

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No, it certainly isn't racism, SwampRatLost. hf
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Ahhh! Hi there Friend! Its been too long!hugs
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Indeed it has! smile_kiss
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Perhaps I can offer you a counterpoint for consideration. Greater numbers of households having internet has just given people exposure to a larger amount of information, specifically information from media companies, where fewer and fewer groups are controlling more and more of the media we see. People have also been given the freedom to filter their own information, which causes greater incidents of people receiving information from only sources that they agree with politically, ideologically or otherwise, causing people to only receive information that a certain group deems important or that group has filtered to match their views. If anything, the rise of the internet has caused people to become less informed. The internet has also made it easier to spread falsehood and delude the masses, since, reputable media outlets cannot truly get away with blatantly lying to you or manipulating you (they have to be much more subtle), whereas on the internet, people can spread disinformation without having to tie it to a source. Furthermore, the number of people propagating this disinformation causes people to more easily believe it than if they heard it from one source, such as a journalist or a politician.

But, moving along. It appears your original intent was to prove that you are not a racist. Generally, I find that people most set on proving they are not something they have not been accused of are guilty of what they were trying to disprove. No one is labeling people opposed to Obama as a racist. You are just trying to promote the narrative that people are labeling Obama as a racist because you want to avoid the real issues that face this country. The fact that we are run by a bunch of idiots who want to spend us into extinction on one side, and a bunch of idiots who want to sell us into corporate slavery to the highest bidders on the other, with both sides blaming the other side for the shit they caused.

As far as your idiotic debates go... Well, the reason they are not continuing to be discussed is because any rational person moved on, including those on the right. No one in their right mind would leave America to have a baby in a mud hut in the middle of nowhere in Kenya shortly before childbirth. It is as simple as that. Why don't I believe the birther argument? Because if nothing else, even an idiot would be smart enough to say, "Hey, we can use this automatic citizenship and there is no reason to travel in this delicate condition to a third world shithole and have a child where mortality rates are so friggen high."
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Sounds to me like your ideological bent causes you to dislike the truth in the internet.

That would be because the leftist ideas can't stand the light. And so you attack it bitterly.

You sound like that obama creep who wanted to censor the internet and only give the goverernment version of the truth.
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Oh, so you are saying that MediaMatters and MoveOn.org are the truth, because as you know, a significant amount of the population chooses to only get those information from those types of sources, just the same as a significant amount of the population only chooses to get information from far right leaning sources.

Perhaps the all the guys going on about Nibiru, chemtrails, alien abductions, etc are all the truth too?

I point out the propagation of mass ignorance, and you say that I want to censor the truth? You accuse me of being a leftist because I am not a birthertard and believe that the left is trying to bankrupt us while the right wants to sell us into slavery?

Interesting. Let me know how that all works out for you. Enjoy your ignorance and disinformation that you stubbornly cling to as "the truth".

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