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The FED's 99 Year Charter Ends on 12/21/2012, How Come No One Is Talking About This???

 
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Woodrow Wilson Laments Signing The Federal Reserve Into Law


President Woodrow Wilson, who signed the illegal Federal Reserve Act of 1913 into law, had this to say before his death, concerning his signing this act into law. . .


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"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by it system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men.
We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world.
No longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but of Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."


This is a man that died knowing that he had sold his country to a bunch of international bankers. There were rumors that he was black-mailed into signing it, but I doubt it. He was a very liberal progressive, and I think he knew what he was doing. I don't think the Rothschilds are above black-mailing a sitting president, but I doubt that was necessary in this case.
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bump For truth!! Thank you OP!!
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As far as I was able to surmise in looking into this matter, the ability to 'expire' the Federal Reserve is only within the power of Congress. And there's no timetable on when such an act could take place.


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Woodrow Wilson Laments Signing The Federal Reserve Into Law


President Woodrow Wilson, who signed the illegal Federal Reserve Act of 1913 into law, had this to say before his death, concerning his signing this act into law. . .


[link to www.larrywishon.com]
 Quoting: CoiNmaN


this is the kind of stuff that I can't believe more people don't pay attention to!!confuse
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Would you please verify that claim by pointing to a government website where it is written?
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this
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12331832


Yeah, because a GOVERNMENT website is where you should get all your information...Fucking Moran.
 Quoting: Below Me


...so who is Moran?
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The Federal Reserve Act was passed and signed by Woodrow Wilson during the Congressional Christmas Break in 1913. The Federal Reserve is a private company owned by several multi-national bank holding companies and in the Federal Reserve Act the Fed recieved a 99 year charter. This charter expires on 12/21/2012 and in order to be re-chartered it is supposed to take the ratification of 2/3 of the states, just like a constitutional amendment...

Yet not a single politician or anyone in the Financial Media is talking about this, even the Fed isn't asking congressmen or the executive branch to act on this...

Makes you wonder if this current crisis isn't engineered to fast track this re-charter through an Emergency Act...Naw, that would be a Conpiracy!!!

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Because it was prolonged indefinitely about 40 years ago.
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What does it mean to ratify a state? Forgive my ignorance. Thank you.
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2/3 of the States must ratify this for it to be re-chartered, at least according to the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. For a state to ratify, the State House must vote on the act or amendment...
 Quoting: Saddletramp




they clearly plan on having their full nazi regime in place by that date

and/or why bother at this point as long as they're packing that "rubber stamp"

making them exempt them from all reason, law
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OP posts totally unsupported claim.
Not surprising, though.
Based upon his photo, he has the mind of a 12 year old.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16598644


Also, I provided a link to Florida State Law School's website which explains the vagrancies of Federally Chartered Business'...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


You guys who disagree with me don't have to get mad or personal about this, I'm open to anything, I just wanted to "Talk About It!"

peace
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I hate your Avatar moron (1 star)
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I like it, reminds me of being on a boat in Florida, good times. Plus he has the balls to put his pic out there and not hide behind Anonymous Coward.
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Would you please verify that claim by pointing to a government website where it is written?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5746768


Here's a link to an Adobe Acrobat File from Florida State University that explains Federally Chartered Companies...

[link to www.law.fsu.edu]
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Companies are not given permenent charters, not by the states, or the Federal Government, and for it to be legal, 99 years is the maximum term of a leasehold, which is what a Charter to do business is...
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I am sure it was QUIETLY reratified, behind the scenes probably indefinitely. They probably changed the regulation status and requirements for ratification under the a new status change.
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As far as I was able to surmise in looking into this matter, the ability to 'expire' the Federal Reserve is only within the power of Congress. And there's no timetable on when such an act could take place.


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Does anyone on GLP bother to read previous posts before they slam one? I've provided links, and I've explained the reasoning numerous times...if you want to see the evidence, look back through the thread, I'm not wasting my time going over it again and again and again...

If you have any conclusive links from the government or courts that say otherwise, I invite you to post them, I would be most interested in seeing them...

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Old news brah, welcome to the party...

Isn't it great when you find out something new?

A feeling that can never be experienced... until the next time you educate yourself!
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Everybody will be ass probed by one or another..IMF,ECB,worldbank,FED they got this covered ,dont worry..sigh

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Would you please verify that claim by pointing to a government website where it is written?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5746768


Here's a link to an Adobe Acrobat File from Florida State University that explains Federally Chartered Companies...

[link to www.law.fsu.edu]
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Companies are not given permenent charters, not by the states, or the Federal Government, and for it to be legal, 99 years is the maximum term of a leasehold, which is what a Charter to do business is...
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So the Federal Reserve is a company?
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Woodrow Wilson Laments Signing The Federal Reserve Into Law


President Woodrow Wilson, who signed the illegal Federal Reserve Act of 1913 into law, had this to say before his death, concerning his signing this act into law. . .


[link to www.larrywishon.com]
 Quoting: CoiNmaN





"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by it system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men.
We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world.
No longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but of Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."


This is a man that died knowing that he had sold his country to a bunch of international bankers. There were rumors that he was black-mailed into signing it, but I doubt it. He was a very liberal progressive, and I think he knew what he was doing. I don't think the Rothschilds are above black-mailing a sitting president, but I doubt that was necessary in this case.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


Who knows what they did to entice/blackmail/force him ... I read years ago there was a group of elite coming from Europe to oppose this system but they came to the U.S. ... on the Titanic in April 1912.
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Found a link re those opposing the Fed in 1912:

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nice avatar op--

you from West Virginia ??
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Wonder what happened with this:
Thread: DALE v. UNITED STATES (dba corporation) Fed Charters in Jeopardy
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Would you please verify that claim by pointing to a government website where it is written?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5746768


Here's a link to an Adobe Acrobat File from Florida State University that explains Federally Chartered Companies...

[link to www.law.fsu.edu]
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Companies are not given permenent charters, not by the states, or the Federal Government, and for it to be legal, 99 years is the maximum term of a leasehold, which is what a Charter to do business is...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


So the Federal Reserve is a company?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1412635


Yes, the Federal Reserve is a Federal Government Chartered Company, but is not owned by the United States Government, the Federal Reserve is more like Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and Farmer Mac, these companies are Federally Chartered (not state chartered like most companies) and they are subject to Govt. Oversight, but not owned by the Government.

The Federal Reserve is in fact owned by a number of Multi-National Bank holding companies...

Good question, thanks for giving me the oportunity to explain that...
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nice avatar op--

you from West Virginia ??
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No, my wife took that picture in the National Wildlife Preserve (The Lakes) area off of Key West, FL. I'm actually from Texas...
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The reason no one is talking about it is because it isn't true. There is no 100-year (or 99-year) charter to expire. The Fed was created by an act of congress and can only be dissolved by an act of congress.

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Sssssshhhhhiiiiisssssshhhhh !

Our PARASITIC politicians and Obammy are working on it secretly to screw the GREATEST number with the LEAST EFFORT !

Especially with all the other CRAP they have stirred up to keep you 'Occupied', lol !
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Federal Reserve Act
Section 31. Reservation of Right to Amend
1. Reservation of Right to Amend
The right to amend, alter, or repeal this Act is hereby expressly reserved
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Can anyone explain what this actually allows the FED to ammend? Would there be a reason to think it would NOT include being able to change the lease term?
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The reason no one is talking about it is because it isn't true. There is no 100-year (or 99-year) charter to expire. The Fed was created by an act of congress and can only be dissolved by an act of congress.
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And what documentation or references do you have to back up your rebuttal?
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They aren't talking about it because there's no backup plan. Since there is no backup plan, they will be 'forced' to stay with the fed.






BRILLIANT.
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The reason no one is talking about it is because it isn't true. There is no 100-year (or 99-year) charter to expire. The Fed was created by an act of congress and can only be dissolved by an act of congress.
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The Federal Reserve is a Federally Chartered Company, which requires an act of congress, but there is a Charter. The Federal Reserve is like Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, or Farmer Mac, they have Govt. oversight, but they are not owned by the Govt. For the Federal Reserve to not have a charter, they would have to be like the United States Postal Service, but they are not, they are a PRIVATELY OWNED COMPANY...therefore, they do have a charter...

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This will be shortly after the shit hits the fan 10/11/2012 total economic collapse.Se the American people will welcome the ((NWO)) With open arms because they will believe they can safe us,And in reality they are the ones cutting our throats
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Federal Reserve Act
Section 31. Reservation of Right to Amend
1. Reservation of Right to Amend
The right to amend, alter, or repeal this Act is hereby expressly reserved
 Quoting: willard 18745444


Can anyone explain what this actually allows the FED to ammend? Would there be a reason to think it would NOT include being able to change the lease term?
 Quoting: The_New _Guy


From what I can surmise, there was a sunset clause built into the Federal Reserve Act that required the Ratification of 2/3 of the States to "Re-Authorize" the charter, but the original txt of the Federal Reserve Act is hard to find, because it almost seems like "Someone" wants to keep it secret...all I can find on the Federal Register is a "Synopsis"....

It is also possible Congress could issue an entirely new Charter under a slightly different business name I suppose, and under the language available in the Synopsis, it appears congress might have to act to either Abolish or Re-Enact the Charter, so they may just choose to do nothing, even though a Charter exceeding 99 years is entirely illegal, then someone would have to sue to prove that well established legal precedent...
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Would you please verify that claim by pointing to a government website where it is written?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5746768


Here's a link to an Adobe Acrobat File from Florida State University that explains Federally Chartered Companies...

[link to www.law.fsu.edu]
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Companies are not given permenent charters, not by the states, or the Federal Government, and for it to be legal, 99 years is the maximum term of a leasehold, which is what a Charter to do business is...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


I am sure it was QUIETLY reratified, behind the scenes probably indefinitely. They probably changed the regulation status and requirements for ratification under the a new status change.
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CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN>................ SAD
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Federal Reserve Act
Section 31. Reservation of Right to Amend
1. Reservation of Right to Amend
The right to amend, alter, or repeal this Act is hereby expressly reserved
 Quoting: willard 18745444


Can anyone explain what this actually allows the FED to ammend? Would there be a reason to think it would NOT include being able to change the lease term?
 Quoting: The_New _Guy


From what I can surmise, there was a sunset clause built into the Federal Reserve Act that required the Ratification of 2/3 of the States to "Re-Authorize" the charter, but the original txt of the Federal Reserve Act is hard to find, because it almost seems like "Someone" wants to keep it secret...all I can find on the Federal Register is a "Synopsis"....

It is also possible Congress could issue an entirely new Charter under a slightly different business name I suppose, and under the language available in the Synopsis, it appears congress might have to act to either Abolish or Re-Enact the Charter, so they may just choose to do nothing, even though a Charter exceeding 99 years is entirely illegal, then someone would have to sue to prove that well established legal precedent...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


Of course anyone with the money and balls to sue the Fed might end up like Lincoln (who tried to abolish the Central Bank of his time through issuing United States Currency to pay off the Civil War debt), or John Kennedy (who took on the Fed by also trying to issue United States Currency). Both of these Presidents ended up dead shortly after printing some of this "United States Currency" (as is authorized in the Constitution)...
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