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The FED's 99 Year Charter Ends on 12/21/2012, How Come No One Is Talking About This???

 
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BTW. they are not talking about it because it is a big secret. the ones who currently control the financial system are afraid of a bank run by the public happening before they can bring in the Black Swan.

The plan (it is hoped)will allow a seamless transition over a period of months so as to not arouse the panic stricken mobs.
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BTW. they are not talking about it because it is a big secret. the ones who currently control the financial system are afraid of a bank run by the public happening before they can bring in the Black Swan.

The plan (it is hoped)will allow a seamless transition over a period of months so as to not arouse the panic stricken mobs.
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What is the black swann
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this is a myth.
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Well I agree with that statement to an extent. They are not going to re-charter the Fed this year, but there is legal precedent that supports the argument that it should be re-chartered, and in order to re-charter, it should require an amendment to the constitution since our currency is no longer backed by Gold or Silver...

However, I agree to the extent it will require someone taking these facts to court, and a court actually upholding legal precedent and the U.S. Constitution for a change...
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Rumor: Marine Corps Officers' Wives Told to Stock Food, Water, and Some Cash

[link to americankabuki.blogspot.com]

My wife, through her network of girlfriends in Oceanside, was told yesterday that the Marine Corps Officer wives at Camp Pendleton were being told to stock up on food, water and cash in contingency for 7-10 days of possible disruption of normal shopping and electronic banking systems. They were also told to keep the gas tanks full of fuel.

This is very similar to what Poof and Cobra has said.

Married life has taught me a healthy respect for the informal ad-hoc communication networks that women create among themselves.

Is this the ramp up to the change in the banking system?
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...however, it would probably require that someone take these facts to court for anything to be done about this...
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If anybody does try this, make sure you don't take the convertible. Or at least keep the top up.

hiding
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The courtroom approach is futile and unneccessary. The Charter is a form of Treaty and cannot be undone except by agreement of both parties or proof by one of them showing fraud on the part of the other. You are not a Party to this Treaty and have no Cause.
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Re: The FED's 99 Year Charter Ends on 12/21/2012, How Come No One Is Talking About This???
Didn't it have a 100 year charter so it expires in 2013?

I brief google search indicates that it's 100 years not 9.


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The Federal Reserve Act was passed and signed by Woodrow Wilson during the Congressional Christmas Break in 1913. The Federal Reserve is a private company owned by several multi-national bank holding companies and in the Federal Reserve Act the Fed recieved a 99 year charter. This charter expires on 12/21/2012 and in order to be re-chartered it is supposed to take the ratification of 2/3 of the states, just like a constitutional amendment...

Yet not a single politician or anyone in the Financial Media is talking about this, even the Fed isn't asking congressmen or the executive branch to act on this...

Makes you wonder if this current crisis isn't engineered to fast track this re-charter through an Emergency Act...Naw, that would be a Conpiracy!!!

Idol1
 Quoting: Saddletramp


In all non-sarcastic terms...

1) Do we know for sure the charter does NOT have an automatic renewal, unless contested in some way???

2) Can the president make a presidential declaration/? and renew it???

3) Like you, I would think it would be all over MSM or at the very least all over conspiracy sites...

4) I am clueless in terms of law and finance, hence my questions as opposed to statements.

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I think they will let the current Fed charter expire, and simply begin a new charter that has the backing of ALL nations except a very few like Iran, North Korea etc...

This NEW charter will = NWO

And that my GLP friends is the REAL 12/21/12 doom

Meanwhile we have all been distracted by Myan Calendars, Nibiru, Pole Shifts, Alien Invasions, and Massive Solar Flare doom

The rest of the sheep will be too busy buying X-Mas gifts, watching reality TV, and even waging civil war on each other to care
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"they" are not talking about it for a reason, not that any of the sheeple are even aware that "it" exists, and why it was 100 years to begin with.

All knew that we would be dependent on the system, and never question the Federal government.

It's over folks, get over it, stop acting like deer in headlights, it's done !
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...however, it would probably require that someone take these facts to court for anything to be done about this...
 Quoting: Saddletramp


If anybody does try this, make sure you don't take the convertible. Or at least keep the top up.

hiding
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The courtroom approach is futile and unneccessary. The Charter is a form of Treaty and cannot be undone except by agreement of both parties or proof by one of them showing fraud on the part of the other. You are not a Party to this Treaty and have no Cause.
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That's not true, Corporate Charters, even those created by an act of Congress have, by legal precedent, a maximum term of 99 years...

Corporate Charters are simply leaseholds granted by the States or Federal Government, leaseholds have a maximum term...

It has been determined by many previous state and federal courts that those leaseholds (charters) maximum term is 99 years...

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so is this why all the smoke is being blown recently? to cover up the fact that the charter is ending? hmmm....
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As the Constitution was abandoned in 1871 and the corporate United States of America brought into being, there is no legal way to "abolish" the Federal Reserve. However, as the leaseholder, one CAN alter the conditions/terms of how business is conducted. ie: The more stringent rules and greater oversight which is comming next year.

The only LAWFUL way to remove these predators is to re-inhabit the Dejure Government for the united states of America. This will immediately end the fed, the irs, most of the excessive beaurocracy, and a great many of the 'give-aways' which are draining the life-blood and productivity of this nation's hard working people. It will also return the original 13th Amendment, thereby ridding the governing heirarchy of all the lawyers (thieves) who have been sucking off the public teat and making themselves rich off the backs of the very constituents they have "sworn" to protect and defend.
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The Federal Reserve Act was passed and signed by Woodrow Wilson during the Congressional Christmas Break in 1913. The Federal Reserve is a private company owned by several multi-national bank holding companies and in the Federal Reserve Act the Fed recieved a 99 year charter. This charter expires on 12/21/2012 and in order to be re-chartered it is supposed to take the ratification of 2/3 of the states, just like a constitutional amendment...

Yet not a single politician or anyone in the Financial Media is talking about this, even the Fed isn't asking congressmen or the executive branch to act on this...

Makes you wonder if this current crisis isn't engineered to fast track this re-charter through an Emergency Act...Naw, that would be a Conpiracy!!!

Idol1
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There is no time limit. THe charter goes on forever.
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BUMP!!!
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Quick google search shows it has a 100 year charter
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Your statement about Corporate Charters is correct Saddletramp, and yes as far as I understand the precedents,
99 years is the maximum. The detail that is different is that the Fed Charter was with an acting government, which by definition makes it a Treaty eventhough the acting government was acting only legally, not Lawfully.

As the Original Act was never ratified (neither legally nor Lawfully)by the Several States, and yet was magically enacted in the dead of night by less than a quorum while everyone else in Congress was on Christmas Vacation, I am now, as I have been for ten years, very interested to see what transpires over the next few months.

For instance; when will they bring out the new $100 bills? Why have they been wharehousedfor the past several years instead of being destroyed if , as they say, they are flawed and useless?

Inquiring minds want to know.
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The charter was extended to eternity!

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This thread is BS.
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BTW. they are not talking about it because it is a big secret. the ones who currently control the financial system are afraid of a bank run by the public happening before they can bring in the Black Swan.

The plan (it is hoped)will allow a seamless transition over a period of months so as to not arouse the panic stricken mobs.
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What is the black swann
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Orchestrated wipe out of the finacial markets in a matter of minutes.
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I find it extremely interesting that the charter ends at the same time as the Myan Calendar ends.

Maybe well get lucky and the states WONT re-authorize it!

And maybe those fuckers will end the world or maybe it will be a new start for us for a btter future :)

Good Post, Thanks!

Frater
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i have been talking about it since 2008



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I find it extremely interesting that the charter ends at the same time as the Myan Calendar ends.

Maybe well get lucky and the states WONT re-authorize it!

And maybe those fuckers will end the world or maybe it will be a new start for us for a btter future :)

Good Post, Thanks!

Frater
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Or maybe a few million of us will get tired of the liars in DC ruining our country and get rid of them.
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If any of this was true, Ron Paul's 2009 book, End the Fed, would've been entitled, Three Years and Counting.

I have to presume Paul, a fairly keen student of the Fed, would've made some mention of this expiration provision, if it existed.
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Federal Reserve had an initial charter of 20 years.

In 1927 it was extended indefinitely until Congress dissolves the Federal Reserve.
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bumpbumpbumpbumpbumpbumpbumpbumpbumpbumpbump
NOW WHAT...anyone got any good news for a change
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this is a myth.
 Quoting: Skin Suit


Well I agree with that statement to an extent. They are not going to re-charter the Fed this year, but there is legal precedent that supports the argument that it should be re-chartered, and in order to re-charter, it should require an amendment to the constitution since our currency is no longer backed by Gold or Silver...

However, I agree to the extent it will require someone taking these facts to court, and a court actually upholding legal precedent and the U.S. Constitution for a change...
 Quoting: Saddletramp



No, that former statement is 100% correct.

The Fed is operating under perpetual charter, no longer the 99-year one. Look up the history. NOTHING is about to expire.

You are repeating a stupid GLP meme that is INCORRECT.
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I find it extremely interesting that the charter ends at the same time as the Myan Calendar ends.

Maybe well get lucky and the states WONT re-authorize it!

And maybe those fuckers will end the world or maybe it will be a new start for us for a btter future :)

Good Post, Thanks!

Frater
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Or maybe a few million of us will get tired of the liars in DC ruining our country and get rid of them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1103915




Good luck with that.

The sheeple will do nothing. They are powerless anyway so it's a moot point.
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I went to one of the top business colleges in NYC and graduated in the early `70's. The Federal Reserve Act was discussed in numerous classes I took. All the prof's made it clear to us that the Fed was a fraud and that it was leased as a corporation for 99 years...

Sorry to say, this end-of-lease clause will be dumped into the dust bowl of history as all important issues are, not the least of which is:

Obama's refusal to release any of his personal information, especially his vault copy birth certificate (which, of course, does not exist). His supporters claim that, as President, he doesn't have time for such things (but he has plenty of time for more vacations than any other U.S. President).

Little or no mention of the many violations of the War Powers Act by Obama.

No recognition by the media that Obama has reneged on almost all of his 2008 campaign promises.

And last but not least, Obama's scheduled swearing in as President in private (as was actually the case in 2009).
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Federal Reserve had an initial charter of 20 years.

In 1927 it was extended indefinitely until Congress dissolves the Federal Reserve.
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Actually, the 20 year charter provisions within the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 are on the Regional Federal Reserve Banks such as the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas, etc...

These individual banks are only a small part of the original Federal Reserve Act of 1913, the Federal Reserve Bank of the United States of America itself was not given a specific charter time limitation, but that does not mean it is perpetual. Legal precedent at both the State and Federal Levels says that if no time limitation is imposed in the original articles of incorporation these Corporate Charters (leaseholds), be they State or Federal, have a maximum term of 99 years...

The Regional Federal Reserve Banks still renew thier charters every twenty years in the regions which they reside, this was the power they were given in the 1927 legislation, the United States Federal Reserve Bank however would require an act of congress to re-charter, and should require a constitutional amendment, since the currency is no longer backed by Gold or Silver...

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VERY interesting OP, yet another piece of the puzzle raises its head!
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Could it be that 99 years ago they were already planning for the hype surrounding 12/21/12?
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