The FED's 99 Year Charter Ends on 12/21/2012, How Come No One Is Talking About This??? | |
Archaic Mason User ID: 1468378 United States 06/28/2012 02:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Old news brah, welcome to the party... Isn't it great when you find out something new? A feeling that can never be experienced... until the next time you educate yourself! -- Archaic Mason 2B1ASK1 "Meet on the level, part on the square." Initiated: January 12th, 2011 Passed: February 8th, 2011 Raised: March 8th, 2011 Tall Cedars of Lebanon Initiated: June 25th, 2011 Y.O.L.O. You Only Live Once DON'T BRING A KNIFE TO A GUN FIGHT! |
Baltar User ID: 14348632 United States 06/28/2012 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would you please verify that claim by pointing to a government website where it is written? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5746768 Here's a link to an Adobe Acrobat File from Florida State University that explains Federally Chartered Companies... [link to www.law.fsu.edu] Companies are not given permenent charters, not by the states, or the Federal Government, and for it to be legal, 99 years is the maximum term of a leasehold, which is what a Charter to do business is... Very interesting information OP In light of the fact there is now more sympathy for the concept of auditing the Fed, do you think there is any chance the Fed charter might not be automatically renewed? The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. ~Marcus Aurelius |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14384867 United States 06/28/2012 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP posts totally unsupported claim. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16598644 Not surprising, though. Based upon his photo, he has the mind of a 12 year old. Also, I provided a link to Florida State Law School's website which explains the vagrancies of Federally Chartered Business'... You guys who disagree with me don't have to get mad or personal about this, I'm open to anything, I just wanted to "Talk About It!" I hate your Avatar moron (1 star) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18735596 United States 06/28/2012 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the elite are gonna crash the Fed intentionally. it's the only way to get everyone to adopt the NWO dollar. So instead of being a slave to the Fed, after the end of the charter, then you will become a slave to the World Bank and IMF which is mostly owned by Rothschild. Welcome to the NWO by financial suicide. you're just trading in one system of control for a bigger one. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18735596 United States 06/28/2012 10:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Old news brah, welcome to the party... Quoting: Archaic Mason Isn't it great when you find out something new? A feeling that can never be experienced... until the next time you educate yourself! hey Mason you need to demit from your Blue Lodge and recant your Masonic oaths. the light you receive comes from Lucifer. Lucifer is the light bearer. page 321, Morals and Dogma, author Albert Pike. You cannot be a Christian and a Free Mason. |
grefey User ID: 12865962 United States 06/28/2012 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Federal Reserve Act was passed and signed by Woodrow Wilson during the Congressional Christmas Break in 1913. The Federal Reserve is a private company owned by several multi-national bank holding companies and in the Federal Reserve Act the Fed recieved a 99 year charter. This charter expires on 12/21/2012 and in order to be re-chartered it is supposed to take the ratification of 2/3 of the states, just like a constitutional amendment... Quoting: Saddletramp Yet not a single politician or anyone in the Financial Media is talking about this, even the Fed isn't asking congressmen or the executive branch to act on this... Makes you wonder if this current crisis isn't engineered to fast track this re-charter through an Emergency Act...Naw, that would be a Conpiracy!!! Perhaps they know there will be no need for a monetary system after 12/21/12. We could be inhabiting a different dimension where money will not be necessary. That's my take. If you look at the date when Marvin Bush's contract with Securacom at the World Trade Center concluded it was 9/11/01. I guess they knew it would not be necessary after that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18066254 United States 06/28/2012 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 502821 United States 06/28/2012 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Federal Reserve Act was passed and signed by Woodrow Wilson during the Congressional Christmas Break in 1913. The Federal Reserve is a private company owned by several multi-national bank holding companies and in the Federal Reserve Act the Fed recieved a 99 year charter. This charter expires on 12/21/2012 and in order to be re-chartered it is supposed to take the ratification of 2/3 of the states, just like a constitutional amendment... Quoting: Saddletramp Yet not a single politician or anyone in the Financial Media is talking about this, even the Fed isn't asking congressmen or the executive branch to act on this... Makes you wonder if this current crisis isn't engineered to fast track this re-charter through an Emergency Act...Naw, that would be a Conpiracy!!! [link to www.allgov.com] "Federal Reserve Board Members Gave Their Own Banks $4 Trillion in Bailouts Following the 2008 financial crisis, the Federal Reserve provided more than $4 trillion in near zero-interest loans and other help to banks and businesses whose executives also served as directors for the national bank. At least 18 current and former Fed regional bank directors had a direct stake in the trillion-dollar bailout given to teetering institutions, according to a report produced by the Government Accountability Office, but released by Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont). “This report reveals the inherent conflicts of interest that exist at the Federal Reserve,” Sanders said in a prepared statement. “At a time when small businesses could not get affordable loans to create jobs, the Fed was providing trillions in secret loans to some of the largest banks and corporations in America that were well represented on the boards of the Federal Reserve Banks...” |
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roadrunnerray User ID: 1352816 United States 06/28/2012 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Federal Reserve Act was passed and signed by Woodrow Wilson during the Congressional Christmas Break in 1913. The Federal Reserve is a private company owned by several multi-national bank holding companies and in the Federal Reserve Act the Fed recieved a 99 year charter. This charter expires on 12/21/2012 and in order to be re-chartered it is supposed to take the ratification of 2/3 of the states, just like a constitutional amendment... Quoting: Saddletramp Yet not a single politician or anyone in the Financial Media is talking about this, even the Fed isn't asking congressmen or the executive branch to act on this... Makes you wonder if this current crisis isn't engineered to fast track this re-charter through an Emergency Act...Naw, that would be a Conpiracy!!! Thanks for this thread and you are correct, not a peep out in the MSM on this subject. |
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Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 87490 United States 06/28/2012 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The charter is perpetual but even if it was for 99 years it would end on December 22, 2012, not the 21st. Quoting: Paddy As I've said any number of times: In Establisted Legal Precedent dating back to NUMEROUS court decisions from the 18-1900's, the MAXIMUM LEASEHOLD AND BUSINESS CHARTER (Which is a Leasehold with the State or Federal Government) can only be 99 years. The Language I've seen from the Federal Reserve Act says (The Maximum Charter Allowable by Law), that's 99 years... And the bill was entered into the Federal Register on Dec 20, 1913, meaning the Charter would expire on Dec 21, 2012... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17399700 United States 06/28/2012 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP posts totally unsupported claim. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16598644 Not surprising, though. Based upon his photo, he has the mind of a 12 year old. he is correct, no charter may be longer than 99 yrs. it is, in fact, A LEASE. Remember the 99yr lease china had for Hong Kong? it recently expired. the orig charter was signed by eisenhower on 12-23-1913 and will therefore expire on 12-22-2012 at mignight. is this the reason for the financial mess we are in right now? will all their control end in approx less than 6 mos? |
Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 87490 United States 06/28/2012 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, Are you more concerned about it expiring or the fact that it expires 12/21/12? o_O Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18066254 The 12/21/2012 Date is Interesting from a symbolic standpoint, but irrelivent other than the fact is it close at hand... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12339688 United States 06/28/2012 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess it's just because it's getting so close, and no one is doing anything, makes me wonder if they won't try to quickly pass another act in congress in the dark of night rather than undergo the prescribed ratification process... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14954100 Like when the Federal Reserve Act was ratified orginally? Makes you wonder about all the 12/21/2012 end of the world stuff that is available on TV now. LOL We are preconcitioned for fear on the date. People will be hollering "It's the end of the world, we need the Fed in place." LOL |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12339688 United States 06/28/2012 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The charter is perpetual but even if it was for 99 years it would end on December 22, 2012, not the 21st. Quoting: Paddy As I've said any number of times: In Establisted Legal Precedent dating back to NUMEROUS court decisions from the 18-1900's, the MAXIMUM LEASEHOLD AND BUSINESS CHARTER (Which is a Leasehold with the State or Federal Government) can only be 99 years. The Language I've seen from the Federal Reserve Act says (The Maximum Charter Allowable by Law), that's 99 years... And the bill was entered into the Federal Register on Dec 20, 1913, meaning the Charter would expire on Dec 21, 2012... What if they change the law? Seems to be happening pretty regularly these days. |
Saddletramp (OP) User ID: 87490 United States 06/28/2012 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP posts totally unsupported claim. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16598644 Not surprising, though. Based upon his photo, he has the mind of a 12 year old. he is correct, no charter may be longer than 99 yrs. it is, in fact, A LEASE. Remember the 99yr lease china had for Hong Kong? it recently expired. the orig charter was signed by eisenhower on 12-23-1913 and will therefore expire on 12-22-2012 at mignight. is this the reason for the financial mess we are in right now? will all their control end in approx less than 6 mos? I think you're right in everything except it was Woodrow Wilson that signed the Federal Reserve Act, and I believe that the date of the Charter actually starts when it was entered in the Congressional Record, passed on 12/19/1913 entered into the record on 12/20/1913...but that involves govt. rules, which have changed substansially over the years, so I admit I could be off two or three days in either direction... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Dr.DoomLittle User ID: 6231580 United States 06/28/2012 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Federal Reserve Act was passed and signed by Woodrow Wilson during the Congressional Christmas Break in 1913. The Federal Reserve is a private company owned by several multi-national bank holding companies and in the Federal Reserve Act the Fed recieved a 99 year charter. This charter expires on 12/21/2012 and in order to be re-chartered it is supposed to take the ratification of 2/3 of the states, just like a constitutional amendment... Quoting: Saddletramp Yet not a single politician or anyone in the Financial Media is talking about this, even the Fed isn't asking congressmen or the executive branch to act on this... Makes you wonder if this current crisis isn't engineered to fast track this re-charter through an Emergency Act...Naw, that would be a Conpiracy!!! Mathew 21:12 December 21 Jesus overturned the tables. 2112 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12339688 United States 06/28/2012 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Federal Reserve Act was passed and signed by Woodrow Wilson during the Congressional Christmas Break in 1913. The Federal Reserve is a private company owned by several multi-national bank holding companies and in the Federal Reserve Act the Fed recieved a 99 year charter. This charter expires on 12/21/2012 and in order to be re-chartered it is supposed to take the ratification of 2/3 of the states, just like a constitutional amendment... Quoting: Saddletramp Yet not a single politician or anyone in the Financial Media is talking about this, even the Fed isn't asking congressmen or the executive branch to act on this... Makes you wonder if this current crisis isn't engineered to fast track this re-charter through an Emergency Act...Naw, that would be a Conpiracy!!! Mathew 21:12 December 21 Jesus overturned the tables. 2112 That's interesting. LOL I guess that would be in the end of the world for some people. |
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Dr.DoomLittle User ID: 6231580 United States 06/28/2012 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i would wager they ... move it to a global jurisdiction. means the end of the tax system as we know it; into a broader global taxation authority. Things are already being 'led' in this direction. Hell i could get behind it, our arcane tax system sucks anyway. But it also means a comprehensive change in the legality of ownership, and existing federal contracts become voidable. consider indian tribes; if the federal gov is replaced by a global authoriity, they will need to renegotiate. So, tribes.. still content sitting on your asses? |
Epic Beard Guy User ID: 1079209 United States 06/28/2012 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are not talking about it because the lame stream media is ignoring the story. They don't want people getting upset when the contract is renewed. I have written my senators many times on the subject, and they always reply that the fed does a lot of good things for us, and they will keep my comment in mind. That's your basic "fuck you 'cause you're not smart enough to know what we do in Washinton" it think. I would be shocked if they decide to read the Constitution before they vote. The media is not going to tell us about it, because it is easier to fuck us if we don't see them coming. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
ExoPoliChick User ID: 12909685 Canada 06/28/2012 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been asking myself this question for months.... Isn't it a little....coincidental? LOL ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Resident Led Zeppelin Expert (ask me anything!) Traveler of both time and space Fuck Trudeau. mRNA-Free and Proud. "The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.' ~ Chris Hitchens |
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Dr.DoomLittle User ID: 6231580 United States 06/28/2012 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess it's just because it's getting so close, and no one is doing anything, makes me wonder if they won't try to quickly pass another act in congress in the dark of night rather than undergo the prescribed ratification process... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14954100 The false presumption is that americans are the priority. they have their eyes on the big prize; manufacturing it now. global taxation authority... but they wouldnt FORMALLY end the IRS... it will be like Christianity or 9/11, even after the paradigm is gone, it will just sit there and let people play along if they choose. Last Edited by Intergalactic Diplomat on 06/28/2012 12:21 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17399700 United States 06/28/2012 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i would wager they ... move it to a global jurisdiction. Quoting: Dr.DoomLittle means the end of the tax system as we know it; into a broader global taxation authority. Things are already being 'led' in this direction. Hell i could get behind it, our arcane tax system sucks anyway. But it also means a comprehensive change in the legality of ownership, and existing federal contracts become voidable. consider indian tribes; if the federal gov is replaced by a global authoriity, they will need to renegotiate. So, tribes.. still content sitting on your asses? i'm certain its what is behind all the IMF "bailouts" no lease therefore, no time limit, goes on until its paid which, of course, will be NEVER |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3228712 United States 06/28/2012 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This expiration claim appears to be bogus. There is no expiration date in the charter that I've ever seen. You cannot say it is an "understood" date because that doesn't exist in legislation as far as I can tell. |