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technologically advanced aliens are communists or capitalists? do they have division?

 
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technologically advanced aliens are communists or capitalists? do they have division?
what do you think.when they can produce everything, what could be the best system?

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Re: technologically advanced aliens are communists or capitalists? do they have division?
Do they have a dictator? or is it democracy.Could they be anarchists?
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Re: technologically advanced aliens are communists or capitalists? do they have division?
any thoughts?
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Re: technologically advanced aliens are communists or capitalists? do they have division?
what do you think.when they can produce everything, what could be the best system?
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Sadly they will probably be as artificially hierarchal, deluded and dangerous as we humans friend...because they also will still be living in denial...and so battling with the conflicting reality of a infinite bipolar (positive/negative) unstable universe. Of course they will be trying perhap to judge and control thing in an attempt to create a more positive reality...which can never actually be realised...just like humans here too.
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Re: technologically advanced aliens are communists or capitalists? do they have division?
what do you think.when they can produce everything, what could be the best system?
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Also ....you might be missing the point ...as the constructs of communism and capitalism are basically both the same. Elitist run hierarchal systems that enable a few to elevate to godly status and positions and the cost of those beneath them.

Currently there is no truly inclusive egalitarian social systems in operation..anywhere on the planet...and therefore most evolved organism suffer the paradox of living in and under the rules and control of others who claim to be more worthy or righteous..when in fact they are no better or different than ourselves.

There ET's will probably also be constrained by the same delusional hierarchal construct and therefore the imbalances, corruption and divisions that arise from them.
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Re: technologically advanced aliens are communists or capitalists? do they have division?
what do you think.when they can produce everything, what could be the best system?
 Quoting: Star God


Also ....you might be missing the point ...as the constructs of communism and capitalism are basically both the same. Elitist run hierarchal systems that enable a few to elevate to godly status and positions and the cost of those beneath them.
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You are misinformed. True or pure communism is supposed to be a stateless classless society. ie no government or dicatorship which the psuedo communistic states presently all have. To my knowledge there has never been a true communistic society on a grand scale. Examples though can be found in tribes or amish like societies.

I think that truly advanced civilisations like we hope there would be amongst the extraterrestrial societies, would be just such a thing. A pure communistic society.

In my eyes the perfect society would consist of equality, respect and doing your thang. Like an ant colony which acts like a hive mind. The hive knows what you are thinking. what you need and where to get it and where to send the foragers, soldiers etc. Advanced societies might rely on an all encompassing computer mind which calculates all this like with the venus project. Also it might be credible that alien beings might have evolved as to stand in contact which their society by means of telepathy. This would aid the hive mind. there are no secrets there are no ambitions. All simply live to serve others and thus being served themselves. While enjoy doing it because the organism of the society is bigger than the smaller but equally important individual. They are all a part of a magnificent and benign society.

the road may have been laid down in holy scriptures which the normals like me are only now uncovering. "Give unto others what you would want to be given unto you". Seems to imply compassion for others and treating them like equals. This I think is true for the most part. But it suggests to my mind also of being part of a community.

In a society like this everyone will be like jesus. It would be the normal and logical thing to do.

If i'm not mistaken Marx predicted that true communism can only be achieved from the foundations of capitalism. The infrastructure, technology and manpower is at its peak and can easily be modified to sustain the entire world population with a great deal of efficiency. Also the impoverished people have a strong take on capitalism in their mind. A contrast so to speak of what they don't want anymore.

Maybe the aliens are waiting untill we have reached such a point before making contact.

If I see how many people are thinking of reform and offering inspirational ideas over the last years like the Venus project, Zeitgeist movement, movements of setting up direct democracies, the recent revolutions etc. Then maybe we can accomplish just such a feat.

Not knowing but hoping what the future brings I certainly know we live in interesting times :) May you as well :)
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Re: technologically advanced aliens are communists or capitalists? do they have division?
what do you think.when they can produce everything, what could be the best system?
 Quoting: Star God


Also ....you might be missing the point ...as the constructs of communism and capitalism are basically both the same. Elitist run hierarchal systems that enable a few to elevate to godly status and positions and the cost of those beneath them.
 Quoting: humanitech 18725228


You are misinformed. True or pure communism is supposed to be a stateless classless society. ie no government or dicatorship which the psuedo communistic states presently all have. To my knowledge there has never been a true communistic society on a grand scale. Examples though can be found in tribes or amish like societies.

I think that truly advanced civilisations like we hope there would be amongst the extraterrestrial societies, would be just such a thing. A pure communistic society.

In my eyes the perfect society would consist of equality, respect and doing your thang. Like an ant colony which acts like a hive mind. The hive knows what you are thinking. what you need and where to get it and where to send the foragers, soldiers etc. Advanced societies might rely on an all encompassing computer mind which calculates all this like with the venus project. Also it might be credible that alien beings might have evolved as to stand in contact which their society by means of telepathy. This would aid the hive mind. there are no secrets there are no ambitions. All simply live to serve others and thus being served themselves. While enjoy doing it because the organism of the society is bigger than the smaller but equally important individual. They are all a part of a magnificent and benign society.

the road may have been laid down in holy scriptures which the normals like me are only now uncovering. "Give unto others what you would want to be given unto you". Seems to imply compassion for others and treating them like equals. This I think is true for the most part. But it suggests to my mind also of being part of a community.

In a society like this everyone will be like jesus. It would be the normal and logical thing to do.

If i'm not mistaken Marx predicted that true communism can only be achieved from the foundations of capitalism. The infrastructure, technology and manpower is at its peak and can easily be modified to sustain the entire world population with a great deal of efficiency. Also the impoverished people have a strong take on capitalism in their mind. A contrast so to speak of what they don't want anymore.

Maybe the aliens are waiting untill we have reached such a point before making contact.

If I see how many people are thinking of reform and offering inspirational ideas over the last years like the Venus project, Zeitgeist movement, movements of setting up direct democracies, the recent revolutions etc. Then maybe we can accomplish just such a feat.

Not knowing but hoping what the future brings I certainly know we live in interesting times :) May you as well :)
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Re: technologically advanced aliens are communists or capitalists? do they have division?
Sorry for double post I was in the middle of registering and i didnt know i already posted. Waiting for my activation also so i cannot delete or edit posts right now.

So any admin may remove these last 2 posts if they are so inclined.
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Re: technologically advanced aliens are communists or capitalists? do they have division?
Since aliens are all the same RACE working together for a common cause and similar vision, they don't need silly humanistic constructs. They all operate independently working towards the same goal. That goal is knowledge, wisdom, and growth for all.

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