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PENG User ID: 1159762 United States 06/28/2012 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Gratia Plena I agree with you. I love RP, but I can't risk putting my vote toward him and letting O get back in. It's time to face the music and vote for the lesser of 2 evils. oh well told you guys before the nomination process before the primaries even started make paul the nominee or the repub party will NOT have my vote and many others agree we don't care if it's obamacare or romneycare fascism of the left or fascism of the right so don't count on our votes because the lesser of 2 evils bullshit doesn't work on us anymore and i won't risk my soul by voting for anyone who thinks it's okay to murder people in other countries for banks and other corporations That's fine. I voted for RP in the primary even though it was all but decided already when they were held in my state. But I cannot STAND Obama, and I can't knowingly contribute to letting him win. I'm not trying to twist anyone's arm to do what I do, so I'm not sure what it is I said that isn't working on you anymore. Vote your conscience. If RP still stands any chance, damn right I'll be behind him. I think/thought he was our last hope. But pop a Xanax or something. You're bitching at someone who agrees with your point of view. I'm just having a different reaction to reality than you are. i'm not bitching at ya and not at all stressed. pretty chill honestly. for me it's about my soul. it's about what i have to answer for later which if i vote for either of the two then that's giving my permission for the things i know they'll do (war, lock up innocents, violate our rights). and, because of that, i cannot partake in a rigged election and i cannot, no matter how awful obama is, put my SOUL behind someone else who is also awful even if it appears that he may be less awful (despite all his advisors coming from the bush team). i'm not even sure romney is less awful. so, for me, it's about supporting murder or not. and deciding to support either candidate is supporting murder of innocents. and you know this. everyone knows this. but are choosing, out of FEAR (those with faith have little fear, btw), to support one anyway. everyone awake knows it's wrong and, imo, are making excuses for supporting murder. tyranny. pedophilia. and continuation of destroying our rights, the planet, and everything else tptb have been up to. this election isn't about making a choice about left or right or healthcare mandates or no mandates this election. this is spiritual warfare in case some have missed it. the choices made will reflect on your soul. Ok I see this point. Very true. But, if you know RP is not going to get the vote and it's between two murders.... One lets your children die a slow painful death or the other who makes it quick, are you still not going to vote? It's not always about selling your soul. It's about the reality of the situation. For some maybe it is fear inhibited, but for others it's about which is a hair closer to my beliefs. There is no way RP would vote for Obama before Romney. And this is coming from someone who doesn't like Romney either. I'm just DONE with Obama, that I will vote for Romney. If RP doesn't slam in the poles, forget it. I'm not wasting my vote and garunteeing Obama gets elected. Now that is selling my soul to the devil. IMO. "May the road rise up to meet you.... May the wind be always at your back..." |
Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States 06/28/2012 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If we wanted to create a near perfect Cloward/Piven text book super bomb?...I'd say it just happened... Quoting: SHR Bingo. Yes, something like one sixth of the economy just gobbled up by the government. Collapse the system by overwhelming it. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18742725 United States 06/28/2012 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama is going to be on television GLOATING within the next two hours... Quoting: CuriosityCat1 What a piece of lying shit he is...smiling while he sticks it to the poor working man and woman on the street.. He is busy jerking it to his drone kill films he orders. yes but now that Obamacare was upheld, he'll slip a couple fingers up his ass while he's jerkin' it to drone porn. |
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Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States 06/28/2012 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, this sort of does that. If you are forced to give a huge amount of your income to insurance companies, that is a form of limit. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1137351 United States 06/28/2012 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | my wife doesnt have insurance because we cant afford it. i am the only one working. my children are covered under BCBS NC state ins, which is called health choice...a form of medicaid. my cost for family coverage, we cant afford. but the kids are covered as stated above. question is what does this mean seeing as how my wife does not have coverage? thank you... |
ScrumpTheTexan Forum Administrator User ID: 10844865 United States 06/28/2012 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If we wanted to create a near perfect Cloward/Piven text book super bomb?...I'd say it just happened... Quoting: SHR Bingo. Yes, something like one sixth of the economy just gobbled up by the government. Collapse the system by overwhelming it. 'The Perfect Storm' is at the door... I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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marlborolightsplease User ID: 1276307 United States 06/28/2012 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If we wanted to create a near perfect Cloward/Piven text book super bomb?...I'd say it just happened... Quoting: SHR Bingo. Yes, something like one sixth of the economy just gobbled up by the government. Collapse the system by overwhelming it. 'The Perfect Storm' is at the door... timewave zero right again |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18742725 United States 06/28/2012 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is wrong with you people? Seriously! I hope the hatred you spew consumes you, because eventually it will. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1526270 What is wrong with us is that we don't want to be allowed to die at the decision of panels addressing how cost effective it is to keep us alive. Silly and hateful things like that. ^^^this^^^ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17865664 United States 06/28/2012 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this may have already been covered, if so, my apologies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1137351 my wife doesnt have insurance because we cant afford it. i am the only one working. my children are covered under BCBS NC state ins, which is called health choice...a form of medicaid. my cost for family coverage, we cant afford. but the kids are covered as stated above. question is what does this mean seeing as how my wife does not have coverage? thank you... I'm not sure if someone here can answer your question. But I think I can say Today, nothing changed from yesterday, other than knowing tomorrow will be the same also, as far as your health care goes anyway.... If Afordable Health Care was voted down today, then tomorrow would have changed, now tomorrow won't change. Hope that helps you... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18414782 United States 06/28/2012 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.beaconhill.org] Doesn't look like RomneyCare is doing well. Very expensive. Since Obamacare is supposedly modeled after RomneyCare (can anyone verify it?). We're fucked. That means no more powerful miltary to protect us... |
Eggcellent Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 13043121 United States 06/28/2012 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good luck having a job when you go back. Hundreds of businesses are already closing their doors TODAY, and the closures will only escalate as the provisions of this so-called "tax" are revealed. "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
snark Forum Administrator User ID: 1050548 United States 06/28/2012 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Holy fuck Obama is just up and goes right into the class warfare rhetoric with some crap about CEO's taking big bonuses instead of paying for healthcare...this shit is just flat out insanity...the brakes are off on the crazy train. Quoting: SHR SHR you know more about this clusterfuck than I do-- can ya give me an idea what this means for me as a small biz owner? Isn't there a limit on how many employees you have to have before you're liable for the mandate? I think I'm pretty close to that number and may have to make some (unwanted) cuts. I imagine I'm not the only one. T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1513090 Canada 06/28/2012 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this may have already been covered, if so, my apologies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1137351 my wife doesnt have insurance because we cant afford it. i am the only one working. my children are covered under BCBS NC state ins, which is called health choice...a form of medicaid. my cost for family coverage, we cant afford. but the kids are covered as stated above. question is what does this mean seeing as how my wife does not have coverage? thank you... I'm not sure if someone here can answer your question. But I think I can say Today, nothing changed from yesterday, other than knowing tomorrow will be the same also, as far as your health care goes anyway.... If Afordable Health Care was voted down today, then tomorrow would have changed, now tomorrow won't change. Hope that helps you... Depends on what your income level is. If you're under the federal guidelines for below the poverty level, then you get free medical becuase you will qualify. anything over the poverty level and you pay. But I could be wrong, who knows? shit they change things so damn much it's not funny. Hell for all we know it could be that poor folks have to pay, who the hell knows anymore? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5490382 United States 06/28/2012 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The US Constitution was rendered irrelevant today. It it truly the "living breathing" document liberals have longed for. In other words it means whatever they want it to mean. A document that was intended to restrain the power of the federal government by precisely enumerating its powers, can now be used to infringe on every personal liberty. The commerce clause was intended to have a very limited scope, namely to ensure barriers were not erected to interstate trade. Today's ruling ensures that any activity, or inactivity for that matter, which has an impact on commerce can be regulated by the federal government. Of course, that includes everything. There no longer remains any contraint on the exercise of federal power and personal liberty is now subservient to the "greater good" as defined by liberals. Apparently Roberts determined that the the mandate was a tax instead of an exercise of federal power under the commerce clause. This is a distinction without a difference. And it means the outcome is even more devastating than it first appeared. Regardless of whether you call it a penalty or a tax, it is designed not to raise revenue but to regulate commerce. The administration argued as much. And of course they argued when passing the law that it was not a tax. It would never have passed congress if they had done so. Regardless, the penalty/tax is designed to bring healthy individuals into the system to spread out the cost of insuring those with pre-existing conditions. The core purpose is to regulate commercial activity, to force people to engage in a particular commercial activity. The tax/penalty is just the means to that end regardless of what you call it. According to Roberts' logic, the government can regulate any activity/inactivity, not just commercial activity, simply by calling it a tax. That's bullshit and it's a distinction without a difference. The effect is the same. The opinion gives lip service to limits on federal power and yet it places no limit on the exercise of federal power under the commerce clause or the tax clause. It's contrary to the letter and intent of the constitution in both cases. It's incredibly disappointing that a republican appointee provided the deciding vote when Kennedy was willing to strike down the entire bill. |
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DILKe User ID: 18575161 United States 06/28/2012 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone have a link/pic of todays TWZ to correlate??? Marxism is the true enemy of our civilization. What is Cultural Marxism: [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15359896 United States 06/28/2012 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Working Americans now will pay for ILLEGAL MEXICAN HEALTH CARE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13582415 What the fuck? Working Americans now will pay for ILLEGAL MEXICAN HEALTH CARE. What the fuck? Working Americans now will pay for ILLEGAL MEXICAN HEALTH CARE. What the fuck? Working Americans now will pay for ILLEGAL MEXICAN HEALTH CARE. What the fuck? Working Americans now will pay for ILLEGAL MEXICAN HEALTH CARE. What the fuck? Working Americans now will pay for ILLEGAL MEXICAN HEALTH CARE. What the fuck? I know this to be true! |
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Eggcellent Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 13043121 United States 06/28/2012 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is NO WAY I am gonna be able to stomach Obammy on TV in a few minutes, so I'm counting on you guys to do the heavy lifting and tell me what he says. Quoting: snark You mean, "I won, I won, I WON!!! Nannner nanner NANNER!!! as the camera only shows him from the chest up because he is so busy wanking himself below the chest level? "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
snark Forum Administrator User ID: 1050548 United States 06/28/2012 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is NO WAY I am gonna be able to stomach Obammy on TV in a few minutes, so I'm counting on you guys to do the heavy lifting and tell me what he says. Quoting: snark You mean, "I won, I won, I WON!!! Nannner nanner NANNER!!! as the camera only shows him from the chest up because he is so busy wanking himself below the chest level? Holder's under the podium fulfilling his duties T For Texas, T For Tennessee! The virtue of courage is a prerequisite for the practice of all other virtues, because otherwise one is virtuous only when virtue has no cost. There are times when something needs to be done, and yet we know that if we step up and do this needful thing, we will pay a heavy personal price. -C.S. Lewis |
Eggcellent Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 13043121 United States 06/28/2012 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just great. The size of Obama's government just increased by thousands and thousands of new bureaucrats and agencies. Quoting: January Wolves Plus what about all the businesses with over 50 employees being forced to meet these requirements? Does this mean a business with 60 employees will have to lay off 10 people? How much of that will happen? Here's a good explanation of the main facets of this bill (warning-it's from a blogger who is pro Obamacare but he offers a good outline of it): heimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2012/06/obamacare-demystified-and-explained-in.html And go here to see how this bill screws, uh affects, you: [link to www.healthcare.gov] You go to your state and answer their questions and it tells you your options. Sounds like we'll all be working for the government sooner or later... Hmmmm... So...(if/when that happens) taxes will be taken out of our paychecks TO PAY OURSELVES? BRILLIANT!!!! (sarc) "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |