Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11360402 06/28/2012 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? First, H.R.3200 never REQUIRED anyone to get anything implanted. Read it yourself and IN CONTEXT. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11360402 ( [link to www.gpo.gov] Section 2521 was simply to create a national registry for ALL medical devices You're so full of bullshit. It says right there that everyone gets a chip and there is a massive computer network to track it all... Quit your lying. Well post it you Dick!! |
| onlyafewawake7 User ID: 18304270 06/28/2012 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? obama is the world leader he is the head of the united nations 1st president to reside as president of the USA and the UN at the same time.. It is the mark of the beast. 1 it will forced upon us which it has and continue to (rev 13:9-12), 2nd it will also link your financial info on it. this is not in writting now but its a no brainer to know that they will link it.. dont fear if you trust in GOD |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14434074 06/28/2012 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? You can already chip your dog for about $30. Unfortunately dogs with chips have a much higher rate of cancer. Miggy It's coming...However People will deny it until Doomsday.... They will walk right into deception with both eyes wide opened... People love getting something for nothing.... You've got it all figured out, don't you? THIS is the Mark of the Beast, without a doubt. It couldn't be something to come later. It's THIS, right now. You know this because on some other website, someone once wrote that the "Mark of the Beast" would be an RFID tag. You believed that person, and now you know that this is it. It all just makes perfect sense doesn't it? It couldn't possibly be any more complicated. People and their egos. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18738148 06/28/2012 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? False. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18741420 First off, the page numbers and language referenced in the example above were taken from HR 3200, an early House version of health care reform legislation that was never passed by Congress. Passages cited from HR 3200 are therefore irrelevant, as that bill was never signed into law. Second, the now-irrelevant language of the unpassed HR 3200 (and similar language in the subsequently passed reconciliation bill, HR 4872) did not mandate that anyone be implanted with any type of microchip or device, for any reason. The passages quoted above reference a section which simply calls for the creation of a registry that would allow the Department of Health and Human Services to collect data about medical devices "used in or on a patient" (including devices which patients consent to have implanted in them during surgery, such as pacemakers) for purposes that include tracking the effectiveness of such devices and facilitating the distribution of manufacturer recall notices. [link to www.snopes.com] This |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17399700 06/28/2012 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? Quoting: christian [link to www.youtube.com] Links to news articles: [link to www.sodahead.com] This is a personal opinion nothing more. I know... Just like Obama's support for Marriage evolved Just like Obama's support for Israel was going back to the 1967 borders Just like Obama swore this was not a TAX.. He just evolves into personal opinions I guess... LOOK UP HEALTHARE NULLIFICATION ACT |
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| CleverMoniker User ID: 15254278 06/28/2012 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? OP, just wanted to let you know, that you're dumb. Really, really dumb. If you read that that bill and think it said anything about mandatory implants of RFID chips, then your reading comprehension is at about a Grade 3 level. Maybe lower. But I strongly suspect that you may not be dumb, and that like most people on this site, you're just a flat out liar. |
| KoFFee_ User ID: 1373078 06/28/2012 12:41 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? [link to www.youtube.com] However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24 "This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42 Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him; and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen. I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13582415 06/28/2012 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? *YOU SEE MR SIMSPSON, A MAN WILL WALK INTO HELL WITH BOTH EYES OPENED!* Quoting: christian BUT EVEN THE DEVIL CAN'T FOOL A DOG! Visionary Rod Serling.... Try watching the CLIP at 6:30 and hear something very PROFOUND from a Twilight Zone Episode! [link to www.youtube.com] You're right, of course. And all should watch the video. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 13582415 06/28/2012 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? OP, just wanted to let you know, that you're dumb. Really, really dumb. If you read that that bill and think it said anything about mandatory implants of RFID chips, then your reading comprehension is at about a Grade 3 level. Maybe lower. Quoting: CleverMoniker 15254278 But I strongly suspect that you may not be dumb, and that like most people on this site, you're just a flat out liar. Another liar... It says that very thing. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14434074 06/28/2012 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? Jesus Christ OP you are fucking stupid and so is anyone buying your bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10284198 ![]() You're also a liar. It says that very thing. I haven't read it, but you obviously have, so you would know exactly where it says it. So why not copy and paste what it says? |
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| christian (OP) Suited up and Armored in Christ! User ID: 6038128 06/28/2012 12:47 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? Quoting: KoFFee_ Thanks for posting Koffee...... Susie For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Ephesians 6:12 |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14434074 06/28/2012 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? If they try chipping me, they will not do it without a fight to the death with me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3376005 I'm NOT going to live in a tyrannical state. I wouldn't want to either. In fact, I think most people that can think for themselves wouldn't want to live in a tyrannical state. Speaking of thinking for myself, I find it strange that nobody can post actual evidence from the wording in the bill that supports mandatory RFID implants for everybody. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11360402 06/28/2012 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? Quoting: christian Here's the bills as they are written,the same bills this dick wad claims to contain the rfid law. Here's HR4872 and HR3590 [link to housedocs.house.gov] [link to www.gpo.gov] Just Copy and paste the RFID clause so we can see it.. |
| ladyannie2009 User ID: 18457264 06/28/2012 01:04 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? *YOU SEE MR SIMSPSON, A MAN WILL WALK INTO HELL WITH BOTH EYES OPENED!* Quoting: christian BUT EVEN THE DEVIL CAN'T FOOL A DOG! Visionary Rod Serling.... Try watching the CLIP at 6:30 and hear something very PROFOUND from a Twilight Zone Episode! [link to www.youtube.com] wow! great clip! I've always been huge fan of twilight zone, but somehow missed that one. thanks! "the truth will stand up, when nothing else will" |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9859945 06/28/2012 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? False. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18741420 First off, the page numbers and language referenced in the example above were taken from HR 3200, an early House version of health care reform legislation that was never passed by Congress. Passages cited from HR 3200 are therefore irrelevant, as that bill was never signed into law. Second, the now-irrelevant language of the unpassed HR 3200 (and similar language in the subsequently passed reconciliation bill, HR 4872) did not mandate that anyone be implanted with any type of microchip or device, for any reason. The passages quoted above reference a section which simply calls for the creation of a registry that would allow the Department of Health and Human Services to collect data about medical devices "used in or on a patient" (including devices which patients consent to have implanted in them during surgery, such as pacemakers) for purposes that include tracking the effectiveness of such devices and facilitating the distribution of manufacturer recall notices. [link to www.snopes.com] FIRST IT WILL BE OPTIONAL, THEN THEY WILL MANDATE IT, READ THE BOOK. god has warned us Now, We have see it all. sick world sick people. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1506261 06/28/2012 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? Here's the bills as they are written,the same bills this dick wad claims to contain the rfid law. Here's HR4872 and HR3590 [link to housedocs.house.gov] [link to www.gpo.gov] Just Copy and paste the RFID clause so we can see it.. Page 1014 of hr4872, then read down about 5 pages to have it in context. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11360402 06/28/2012 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? Quoting: christian Here's the bills as they are written,the same bills this dick wad claims to contain the rfid law. Here's HR4872 and HR3590 [link to housedocs.house.gov] [link to www.gpo.gov] Just Copy and paste the RFID clause so we can see it.. Well??...Is anybody going to copy and paste the RFID clause?? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1506261 06/28/2012 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? Here's the bills as they are written,the same bills this dick wad claims to contain the rfid law. Here's HR4872 and HR3590 [link to housedocs.house.gov] [link to www.gpo.gov] Just Copy and paste the RFID clause so we can see it.. Page 1014 of hr4872, then read down about 5 pages to have it in context. first link |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1506261 06/28/2012 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013? Here's the bills as they are written,the same bills this dick wad claims to contain the rfid law. Here's HR4872 and HR3590 [link to housedocs.house.gov] [link to www.gpo.gov] Just Copy and paste the RFID clause so we can see it.. Well??...Is anybody going to copy and paste the RFID clause?? 20 Subtitle C—National Medical 21 Device Registry 22 SEC. 2521. NATIONAL MEDICAL DEVICE REGISTRY. 23 (a) REGISTRY.— VerDate Nov 24 2008 23:53 Mar 17, 2010 Jkt 089200 PO 00000 Frm 01013 Fmt 6652 Sfmt 6201 E:\BILLS\H4872.RH H4872 dcolon on DSK2BSOYB1PROD with BILLS 1014 •HR 4872 RH 1 (1) IN GENERAL.—Section 519 of the Federal 2 Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C. 360i) is 3 amended— 4 (A) by redesignating subsection (g) as sub5 section (h); and 6 (B) by inserting after subsection (f) the 7 following: 8 ‘‘National Medical Device Registry 9 ‘‘(g)(1) The Secretary shall establish a national med10 ical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the 11 ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and 12 outcomes data on each device that— 13 ‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and 14 ‘‘(B) is— 15 ‘‘(i) a class III device; or 16 ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable, 17 life-supporting, or life-sustaining. 18 ‘‘(2) In developing the registry, the Secretary shall, 19 in consultation with the Commissioner of Food and Drugs, 20 the Administrator of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid 21 Services, the head of the Office of the National Coordi22 nator for Health Information Technology, and the Sec23 retary of Veterans Affairs, determine the best methods 24 for— VerDate Nov 24 2008 23:53 Mar 17, 2010 Jkt 089200 PO 00000 Frm 01014 Fmt 6652 Sfmt 6201 E:\BILLS\H4872.RH H4872 dcolon on DSK2BSOYB1PROD with BILLS 1015 •HR 4872 RH 1 ‘‘(A) including in the registry, in a manner con2 sistent with subsection (f), appropriate information 3 to identify each device described in paragraph (1) by 4 type, model, and serial number or other unique iden5 tifier; 6 ‘‘(B) validating methods for analyzing patient 7 safety and outcomes data from multiple sources and 8 for linking such data with the information included 9 in the registry as described in subparagraph (A), in10 cluding, to the extent feasible, use of— 11 ‘‘(i) data provided to the Secretary under 12 other provisions of this chapter; and 13 ‘‘(ii) information from public and private 14 sources identified under paragraph (3); 15 ‘‘(C) integrating the activities described in this 16 subsection with— 17 ‘‘(i) activities under paragraph (3) of sec18 tion 505(k) (relating to active postmarket risk 19 identification); 20 ‘‘(ii) activities under paragraph (4) of sec21 tion 505(k) (relating to advanced analysis of 22 drug safety data); and 23 ‘‘(iii) other postmarket device surveillance 24 activities of the Secretary authorized by this 25 chapter; and VerDate Nov 24 2008 23:53 Mar 17, 2010 Jkt 089200 PO 00000 Frm 01015 Fmt 6652 Sfmt 6201 E:\BILLS\H4872.RH H4872 dcolon on DSK2BSOYB1PROD with BILLS 1016 •HR 4872 RH 1 ‘‘(D) providing public access to the data and 2 analysis collected or developed through the registry 3 in a manner and form that protects patient privacy 4 and proprietary information and is comprehensive, 5 useful, and not misleading to patients, physicians, 6 and scientists. 7 ‘‘(3)(A) To facilitate analyses of postmarket safety 8 and patient outcomes for devices described in paragraph 9 (1), the Secretary shall, in collaboration with public, aca10 demic, and private entities, develop methods to— 11 ‘‘(i) obtain access to disparate sources of 12 patient safety and outcomes data, including— 13 ‘‘(I) Federal health-related electronic 14 data (such as data from the Medicare pro15 gram under title XVIII of the Social Secu16 rity Act or from the health systems of the 17 Department of Veterans Affairs); 18 ‘‘(II) private sector health-related 19 electronic data (such as pharmaceutical 20 purchase data and health insurance claims 21 data); and 22 ‘‘(III) other data as the Secretary 23 deems necessary to permit postmarket as24 sessment of device safety and effectiveness; 25 and VerDate Nov 24 2008 23:53 Mar 17, 2010 Jkt 089200 PO 00000 Frm 01016 Fmt 6652 Sfmt 6201 E:\BILLS\H4872.RH H4872 dcolon on DSK2BSOYB1PROD with BILLS 1017 •HR 4872 RH 1 ‘‘(ii) link data obtained under clause (i) 2 with information in the registry. 3 ‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to in4 formation respecting a device described in paragraph (1), 5 including claims data, patient survey data, standardized 6 analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of 7 data from disparate data environments, electronic health 8 records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the 9 Secretary. 10 ‘‘(4) Not later than 36 months after the date of the 11 enactment of this subsection, the Secretary shall promul12 gate regulations for establishment and operation of the 13 registry under paragraph (1). Such regulations— 14 ‘‘(A)(i) in the case of devices that are described 15 in paragraph (1) and sold on or after the date of the 16 enactment of this subsection, shall require manufac17 turers of such devices to submit information to the 18 registry, including, for each such device, the type, 19 model, and serial number or, if required under sub20 section (f), other unique device identifier; and 21 ‘‘(ii) in the case of devices that are described in 22 paragraph (1) and sold before such date, may re23 quire manufacturers of such devices to submit such 24 information to the registry, if deemed necessary by 25 the Secretary to protect the public health; VerDate Nov 24 2008 23:53 Mar 17, 2010 Jkt 089200 PO 00000 Frm 01017 Fmt 6652 Sfmt 6201 E:\BILLS\H4872.RH H4872 dcolon on DSK2BSOYB1PROD with BILLS 1018 •HR 4872 RH 1 ‘‘(B) shall establish procedures— 2 ‘‘(i) to permit linkage of information sub3 mitted pursuant to subparagraph (A) with pa4 tient safety and outcomes data obtained under 5 paragraph (3); and 6 ‘‘(ii) to permit analyses of linked data; 7 ‘‘(C) may require device manufacturers to sub8 mit such other information as is necessary to facili9 tate postmarket assessments of device safety and ef10 fectiveness and notification of device risks; 11 ‘‘(D) shall establish requirements for regular 12 and timely reports to the Secretary, which shall be 13 included in the registry, concerning adverse event 14 trends, adverse event patterns, incidence and preva15 lence of adverse events, and other information the 16 Secretary determines appropriate, which may include 17 data on comparative safety and outcomes trends; 18 and 19 ‘‘(E) shall establish procedures to permit public 20 access to the information in the registry in a manner 21 and form that protects patient privacy and propri22 etary information and is comprehensive, useful, and 23 not misleading to patients, physicians, and sci24 entists. VerDate Nov 24 2008 23:53 Mar 17, 2010 Jkt 089200 PO 00000 Frm 01018 Fmt 6652 Sfmt 6201 E:\BILLS\H4872.RH H4872 dcolon on DSK2BSOYB1PROD with BILLS 1019 •HR 4872 RH 1 ‘‘(5) To carry out this subsection, there are author2 ized to be appropriated such sums as may be necessary 3 for fiscal years 2010 and 2011.’’. 4 (2) EFFECTIVE DATE.—The Secretary of 5 Health and Human Services shall establish and 6 begin implementation of the registry under section 7 519(g) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic 8 Act, as added by paragraph (1), by not later than 9 the date that is 36 months after the date of the en10 actment of this Act, without regard to whether or 11 not final regulations to establish and operate the 12 registry have been promulgated by such date. 13 (3) CONFORMING AMENDMENT.—Section 14 303(f)(1)(B)(ii) of the Federal Food, Drug, and 15 Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C. 333(f)(1)(B)(ii)) is amend16 ed by striking ‘‘519(g)’’ and inserting ‘‘519(h)’’. 17 (b) ELECTRONIC EXCHANGE AND USE IN CERTIFIED 18 ELECTRONIC HEALTH RECORDS OF UNIQUE DEVICE 19 IDENTIFIERS.— 20 (1) RECOMMENDATIONS.—The HIT Policy 21 Committee established under section 3002 of the 22 Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 300jj–12) 23 shall recommend to the head of the Office of the Na24 tional Coordinator for Health Information Tech25 nology standards, implementation specifications, and VerDate Nov 24 2008 23:53 Mar 17, 2010 Jkt 089200 PO 00000 Frm 01019 Fmt 6652 Sfmt 6201 E:\BILLS\H4872.RH H4872 dcolon on DSK2BSOYB1PROD with BILLS 1020 •HR 4872 RH 1 certification criteria for the electronic exchange and 2 use in certified electronic health records of a unique 3 device identifier for each device described in section 4 519(g)(1) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic 5 Act, as added by subsection (a). 6 (2) STANDARDS, IMPLEMENTATION CRITERIA, 7 AND CERTIFICATION CRITERIA.—The Secretary of 8 the Health Human Services, acting through the 9 head of the Office of the National Coordinator for 10 Health Information Technology, shall adopt stand11 ards, implementation specifications, and certification 12 criteria for the electronic exchange and use in cer13 tified electronic health records of a unique device 14 identifier for each device described in paragraph (1), 15 if such an identifier is required by section 519(f) of 16 the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 17 U.S.C. 360i(f)) for the device. |
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