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Don't take the MARK people! ObamaCare Mandates RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans by March 23rd 2013?

 
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The MARK of the BEAST is to be worldwide.....this is NOT.
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Its the beginning
 Quoting: shadasonic


Futurists agree that the idea of using microchips inside the body could ultimately represent a large market opportunity, but they doubt whether this initial effort will have a significant effect on the RFID market.

"Are we going to see chips embedded in the human body? You bet we are," said Paul Saffo, a director of The Institute for the Future (Menlo Park, Calif.). "But it isn't going to happen overnight."

Pacemaker helper

Still, Applied Digital Solutions' executives are preparing to sell between $2.5 million and $5 million worth of VeriChips in 2002. The company initially plans to sell the chips in South America and Europe for use with pacemakers and defibrillators. In that application, it could be attached to the outside of the heart device or implanted nearby in the body.
Doing so would enable medical personnel to identify and monitor a patient's implanted devices merely by running a handheld scanner over the patient's chest.
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The problem with the subject of the Mark of the Beast is that it is NOT a single layer of truth.
It is a multi layer of wisdom or truth.

The four beast systems are "political, educational, economical, and religion beast systems.
Both the economical and POLITICAL beast systems work
together to complete the depth of the Mark of the Beast.
We have already seen the "economical" beast system take
a hit on 911. The next hit is the POLITICAL BEAST SYSTEM and
that we will go into and are being driven into the NWO beast system.
So for you all to begin to start to understand the end time beast systems, you need to start reading from Zec. 1:18 those four horns. Horns symbolically means "power or powers".
I can tell you this, most Christians fear any kind of chipping. But the ultimate thing is that when the POLITICAL beast system NWO solidifies and we are all under that system, it will take a deadly blow. That is when Satan comes with his 7000 angels. And since Satan is gorgeous and very beautiful in appears having a very bright light around his body and rainbows of colors shooting off of that body, all peoples of the World will think (IT) or (HE) as Dr. Moffett puts into his works and is correct; will bow down to him. And even the UFO buffs will be satisfied because Satan will arrive in a Craft landing 7 miles North of Mt. Zion and march right up to the Dome of the Rock of the Muslims and wait for the jewish people to build the temple which will take two months for them to complete. In the third month of that summer, we will see Satan go into that temple and tell the world he is God.
Not learning the timing of the end time events is dangerous and it will make tons of Christians follow Satan out of ignorance.
So again, the Mark of the Beast is multi-layered scenario.

I hope this enlightens the thread a bit.
blessings
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What’s the Hold Up Oklahoma? Woman Waits to Learn the Fate of Her Religious Freedoms While Life becomes More Complicated Day by Day.

Anyone who follows the work of the Constitutional Alliance is aware that one of our members, Kaye Beach, is embroiled in a legal battle that pits the states desire to collect and share personal biometric data against an individual’s right to religious freedom.

This woman has been without a valid driver’s license since Feb 28, 2011. She is suing the state’s Department of Public Safety over the unwarranted collection of her personal biometric information as a condition for being granted a state driver’s license or identification card.

Read ‘My Real ID Reckoning’ by Kaye Beach

In a little over a year Kaye has come to realize that she is taking up this fight not a moment too soon as she is increasingly denied access to more and more places and things that she used to take for granted. Prescription medication, for example, has been denied her under new rules in place in the state of Oklahoma that pressures pharmacists to ignore their better judgment and deny a long standing client like Kaye, her legitimately prescribed medications. Fortunately Kaye is still permitted to buy antibiotics but cough medicine? No way. Not without a “government issued photo ID”. Her birth certificate won’t suffice for identification purposes. So what is so special about a government issued photo ID? In a word-biometrics. Any government issued photo ID contains the biometrics of the holder.

Visit www.constitutionalalliance.org to read the petition/lawsuit filed. In the upper left hand corner of our web-site you will see a "block" titled "Kaye Beach petition/suit as Filed". Click on the "block" and you can read the petition/suit.

There are two "causes of action" within the suit filed by Kaye Beach. One is specific to a religious exemption that pertains to the religious rights and thus freedom of Christians [link to essexuu.org]
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Rfid chips will have their uses though if they are optional. Like monitoring blood glucose levels in diabetics
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Its the beginning
 Quoting: shadasonic


Futurists agree that the idea of using microchips inside the body could ultimately represent a large market opportunity, but they doubt whether this initial effort will have a significant effect on the RFID market.

"Are we going to see chips embedded in the human body? You bet we are," said Paul Saffo, a director of The Institute for the Future (Menlo Park, Calif.). "But it isn't going to happen overnight."

Pacemaker helper

Still, Applied Digital Solutions' executives are preparing to sell between $2.5 million and $5 million worth of VeriChips in 2002. The company initially plans to sell the chips in South America and Europe for use with pacemakers and defibrillators. In that application, it could be attached to the outside of the heart device or implanted nearby in the body.
Doing so would enable medical personnel to identify and monitor a patient's implanted devices merely by running a handheld scanner over the patient's chest.
 Quoting: christian


well the bible does say most people will be fooled, unfortunately it's most christians who are being fooled. every single aspect of the RFID implant, from investment to now mandate has been sponsored by the GOP. i'm not a liberal, won't ever vote democrat, but if you're thinking the democrats are behind this stuff, it's you who have been fooled.
 Quoting: katiepea


I am not saying this is a Political Issue at all..Wether one is a member of the GOP or the Democrats of Liberalism, this is a *SYSTEM* enacted by deception that is *Antichrist* and all who ascribe to it....

How people cannot see the Deception all around them is baffling...
 Quoting: christian



I don't understand how people can't see it, they've been told of it. The one's who don't see it, I pray they do.

So, so far, it is not worldwide, It will be, BET ON IT!

doesn't mean that's not where it is going. This makes me sick.

Look at the spread of the Internet, and apply it to this, and take yourself a few years down the road as to where it may lie.

I am almost done with trying to wake people, beyond the political, and towards the spiritual. I am not saying Christianity knows it all, but, the bible sure tells a lot more about our future than most will listen to.

the more I learn, the more I realize that I should listen to it, b/c, I see it all around me.

And I was never even religious!!!....
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False.

First off, the page numbers and language referenced in the example above were taken from HR 3200, an early House version of health care reform legislation that was never passed by Congress. Passages cited from HR 3200 are therefore irrelevant, as that bill was never signed into law.

Second, the now-irrelevant language of the unpassed HR 3200 (and similar language in the subsequently passed reconciliation bill, HR 4872) did not mandate that anyone be implanted with any type of microchip or device, for any reason. The passages quoted above reference a section which simply calls for the creation of a registry that would allow the Department of Health and Human Services to collect data about medical devices "used in or on a patient" (including devices which patients consent to have implanted in them during surgery, such as pacemakers) for purposes that include tracking the effectiveness of such devices and facilitating the distribution of manufacturer recall notices.

[link to www.snopes.com]
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Snopes! hahahahahahaha

Idiot.
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The MARK of the BEAST is to be worldwide.....this is NOT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14091728


Its the beginning
 Quoting: shadasonic


Futurists agree that the idea of using microchips inside the body could ultimately represent a large market opportunity, but they doubt whether this initial effort will have a significant effect on the RFID market.

"Are we going to see chips embedded in the human body? You bet we are," said Paul Saffo, a director of The Institute for the Future (Menlo Park, Calif.). "But it isn't going to happen overnight."

Pacemaker helper

Still, Applied Digital Solutions' executives are preparing to sell between $2.5 million and $5 million worth of VeriChips in 2002. The company initially plans to sell the chips in South America and Europe for use with pacemakers and defibrillators. In that application, it could be attached to the outside of the heart device or implanted nearby in the body.
Doing so would enable medical personnel to identify and monitor a patient's implanted devices merely by running a handheld scanner over the patient's chest.
 Quoting: christian


The problem with the subject of the Mark of the Beast is that it is NOT a single layer of truth.
It is a multi layer of wisdom or truth.

The four beast systems are "political, educational, economical, and religion beast systems.
Both the economical and POLITICAL beast systems work
together to complete the depth of the Mark of the Beast.
We have already seen the "economical" beast system take
a hit on 911. The next hit is the POLITICAL BEAST SYSTEM and
that we will go into and are being driven into the NWO beast system.
So for you all to begin to start to understand the end time beast systems, you need to start reading from Zec. 1:18 those four horns. Horns symbolically means "power or powers".
I can tell you this, most Christians fear any kind of chipping. But the ultimate thing is that when the POLITICAL beast system NWO solidifies and we are all under that system, it will take a deadly blow. That is when Satan comes with his 7000 angels. And since Satan is gorgeous and very beautiful in appears having a very bright light around his body and rainbows of colors shooting off of that body, all peoples of the World will think (IT) or (HE) as Dr. Moffett puts into his works and is correct; will bow down to him. And even the UFO buffs will be satisfied because Satan will arrive in a Craft landing 7 miles North of Mt. Zion and march right up to the Dome of the Rock of the Muslims and wait for the jewish people to build the temple which will take two months for them to complete. In the third month of that summer, we will see Satan go into that temple and tell the world he is God.
Not learning the timing of the end time events is dangerous and it will make tons of Christians follow Satan out of ignorance.
So again, the Mark of the Beast is multi-layered scenario.

I hope this enlightens the thread a bit.
blessings
 Quoting: Little Star


To add more to this.
Many churches teach that the anti-christ takes the deadly blow.
Sorry, not one bullet or any kind of device will be able to kill Satan. He is super natural and nothing we have on earth can kill him.
Here is a tip for all of you.
Paul tells us in 1 Cor. 15 that at the last trump we all shall be changed. And when we change into our spiritual body, not even the sun can be felt.
So, when Satan comes, if there is any deaths and or births , (IT) is not Jesus.
When Christ comes, all births and deaths will stop.
Even if a woman is carrying a baby in her, that child with in here will be changed into a spiritual full grown adult.
When Satan comes, many woman will be preggers, and will still give birth.
This puts the meddle to the peddle and just by having this kind of truth, you can protect yourself from all of the grand deceptions.
blessings
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bsflag are you really that stupid??

No where does anything say RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans..
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dude it don't matter, glp now is nothing more than forwarded spam emails from the fringe elements of the Republican National Committee, truth is not relevant to them...
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DUST TO GLORY!!!
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Fear Mongering and Misleading Title...
Ron Paul or Bust
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assuming the 'mark' is a global phenomenon (why wouldnt it be) when do you think Icelanders or Ugandans or Madagascarians or Indians or Pakastanis are going to get their mark?

this is a red herring folks.
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A billion indians just got their own fucking ids and numbers and in pakistan you cant even buy sugar without showing your id. So yeah, next step is the chip whether people like it or not, it would be forced upon everyone.

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Thanks for Posting this Video!

Exposing Deception..

Take Heed People to the BEAST of the System...
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Supreme Court's Obamacare decision hands federal government unlimited power to force you to spend 100% of your paycheck on things you don't even want

Learn more: [link to www.naturalnews.com]
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RF chips can do some bad things to dogs, I have seen it my self.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
I'm only human, it's my biggest flaw.

We must all realize a sink a chair and a pillow are all luxuries of home and a soldiers helmet takes the place of all three.
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bsflag are you really that stupid??

No where does anything say RFID Chips to be Implanted in all Americans..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11360402


Just wait for it you idiot. A few years ago nobody could believe health care would be mandated either....but it happened didnt it? So yes the chips will be planted as well and those without it wont be able to buy or sell....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1711362


Ok,So NOW it's happening secretly..

And you know about it but nobody else does..Right,I get itnorespect
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11360402


All I know for sure is it will happen, 100%. I guarantee it! I would bet my home on it. The chip is coming whether people like it or not, they will be forced to have it and those without it wont be able to buy, sell, attend school, college, start a business or get health care services.

Things that seemed too far out there have become a reality and so would the chip. I hope this site is still around when the chip becomes mandatory and people can read my words and say yes he was right.

The only solution to this problem is WW3 and the nuclear bombs being dropped on major cities around the world. Otherwise, the way technology is advancing, this is the future. To get rid of the chip, you have to get rid of the technology to implement it. Its that simple.

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Class II Special Controls Guidance Document: Implantable Radiofrequency Transponder System for Patient Identification and Health Information

[link to www.fda.gov]

Quoting: KoFFee_

Yes, small medical devices such as cochlear implants are part of this program. This has nothing to do with mandatory RFID implants.


Negatory.....

Class II is in the HEALTH CARE BILL and used in conjuction with the words national medical database registry.

Now, go and shill somewhere else trolls.
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What the hell do you think that is going to be?

A hearing aid??


HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!


WAKE UP!
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Hello Morons.


Read and weep.
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[link to www.change.org]
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Now commence with the shills.....
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Echo.

Echo.
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Class II Special Controls Guidance Document: Implantable Radiofrequency Transponder System for Patient Identification and Health Information

[link to www.fda.gov]


Quoting: KoFFee_

Yes, small medical devices such as cochlear implants are part of this program. This has nothing to do with mandatory RFID implants.


Negatory.....

Class II is in the HEALTH CARE BILL and used in conjuction with the words national medical database registry.

Now, go and shill somewhere else trolls.
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My part of the above post is what is in Bold. For some reason it posted incorrectly and looks like I wrote the part in red--I didn't--just to make that clear and understandable.
However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7

I do not own the rights to any video posted, they are for educational/entertainment purposes only.
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Another field of interest that appears to be making rapid advancement in technology is Biometrics.

Biometrics proves 1 percent of applicants to enter U.S. are unsuitable

[link to www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com]
However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7

I do not own the rights to any video posted, they are for educational/entertainment purposes only.
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You see. This issue is about your loyalties and your priorities.

Those loyal to the world and this BEAST system will not see this as a bad idea and will act in defense of it.

Those loyal to the Spirit of the Living God will understand it as quite the contrary and at enmity with freedom, truth, and love.

So in that sense, you will be "marked" by participating in the ultimate demise of your soul if you offer no resistance and continue to comply with all the machinations of the wicked.
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assuming the 'mark' is a global phenomenon (why wouldnt it be) when do you think Icelanders or Ugandans or Madagascarians or Indians or Pakastanis are going to get their mark?

this is a red herring folks.
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Meaning worldwide it doesn't means all people will take the mark, but believe or not if Islam take control of the World they will find you under the rocks or in the Great Canyon.
And they will torture you or your relatives until you accept the mark of Bismillah. You clearly under estimate the fanaticism of sharia muslims.
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Yes KoFFee.

thanks for the input.
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Conservative Christians Warn American Families at Risk After 'Obamacare' Is Upheld


Christian leaders across the nation have been responding to the Supreme Court's ruling on "Obamacare," with many suggesting that the decision to uphold the law's insurance mandate could pose grave consequences for American families.

Family Research Council President Tony Perkins warned, "Today's Supreme Court decision will do serious harm to American families. Not only is the individual mandate a profound attack on our liberties, but it is only one section among hundreds of provisions in the law that will force taxpayers to fund abortions, violate their conscience rights, and impose a massive tax and debt burden on American families.............


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You see. This issue is about your loyalties and your priorities.

Those loyal to the world and this BEAST system will not see this as a bad idea and will act in defense of it.

Those loyal to the Spirit of the Living God will understand it as quite the contrary and at enmity with freedom, truth, and love.

So in that sense, you will be "marked" by participating in the ultimate demise of your soul if you offer no resistance and continue to comply with all the machinations of the wicked.
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Absoloutley!

Spot on!
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The main reason of the mark of the beast is WORSHIP.
The devil desires WORSHIP.

Not being able to buy or sell is just a consequence.
However, I consider my life worth nothing to me; my only aim is to finish the race and complete the task
the Lord Jesus has given me—the task of testifying to the good news of God’s grace. Acts 20:24

"This man really is the Savior of the world!" John 4:42

Look, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him;
and all the peoples of the earth will mourn because of him. So shall it be! Amen.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, " says the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:7

I do not own the rights to any video posted, they are for educational/entertainment purposes only.
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Technology is not the problem. Never has been. It is the desire to prioritize convenience and worldly ambition over guarding against the wiles of the devil... worshipping what is created rather than the Creator. Man is going to worship Science and Technology at the expense of his mortal soul, and will ultimately become yoked to the same.

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