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Obamacare Will Force Me To Shut My Doors. I Own 8 Staffing Companies and Have Placed over 100,000 people the last few years...

 
maryjane of earth
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06/29/2012 06:25 AM
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Re: Obamacare Will Force Me To Shut My Doors. I Own 8 Staffing Companies and Have Placed over 100,000 people the last few years...
You own 8 staffing companies?
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I'm a doomer carshtard, but i'm not a loser!
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If you own them all, why wouldn't it be one company?
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just get rid of one and pay for your staff. Asshole. You want everything but don't care about your peoples. So sad. Hope you loose everything.
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06/29/2012 06:35 AM
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Re: Obamacare Will Force Me To Shut My Doors. I Own 8 Staffing Companies and Have Placed over 100,000 people the last few years...
Thanks Obama. Thousands of people across the country would rather have temporary work lasting a few months to a few years rather than sit at home with no work. Now I must close my doors because I can't provide for EVERY SINGLE TEMP that walks through my doors. HE RUINED THE STAFFING INDUSTRY.

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 Quoting: Doom Lover


If you were a real businessman and not some phony ass poser, you'd know that your temps should be 1099'rs.
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06/29/2012 06:47 AM
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Re: Obamacare Will Force Me To Shut My Doors. I Own 8 Staffing Companies and Have Placed over 100,000 people the last few years...
Virtually EVERY staffing company in the US already offers health insurance for its temps.

Linkstaffing.com and they have for years..so this poser is completely full of shit
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06/29/2012 07:03 AM
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Re: Obamacare Will Force Me To Shut My Doors. I Own 8 Staffing Companies and Have Placed over 100,000 people the last few years...
I have friends that are doctors and dentists that will retire because government won't pay shit for treatments and procedures...the ones that currently accept medicade and medicare wish they never signed up for it...many times they lose money because of it...
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They don't lose money because they overcharge.
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you can't overcharge medicaid, they have a schedule of flat fees they pay out to doctors and THATS IT. The doctor has no say in the matter.
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06/29/2012 07:05 AM
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Thanks Obama. Thousands of people across the country would rather have temporary work lasting a few months to a few years rather than sit at home with no work. Now I must close my doors because I can't provide for EVERY SINGLE TEMP that walks through my doors. HE RUINED THE STAFFING INDUSTRY.

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 Quoting: Doom Lover


Your a liar or you don't understand how it works but I know how your industry works. You keep these people temporary. You nor the company they are working for are not obligated to offer insurance because they are temporary. You charge the company $20.00 an hour for said employee but only pay the employee $9 an hour. If you have 8 staffing companies I hope you have WC insurance.

See it's thieves like you and the companies you staff that have put the american people behind the eight ball.
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Excuse me, you obviously do not understand what it takes to run a business. Businesses have to charge 3-4 times your direct labor in order to survive due to all the taxes and overhead. Do you think that plumbing companies charge you $90/hr because they pay the plumbers $85/hr ? No, they usually pay the plumbers 1/3 to 1/4 of that $90/hr, which works out to 45K to 60K per year per each plumber on their staff. The rest goes to pay for all the company expenses. That's just an example. Most businesses in the united states only make between 1% to 3% of their gross income. Do you know that you can generally estimate how much a company makes by looking at how many people works there? All you have to do is take the number of employees times $100K, that's how much they have to gross a year to stay in business. It's not easy to run a business and make a small percentage profit. People like you think that a businessman can make any amount of profit he desires, not true unless it's an illegal business or he has no competition. As soon as someone makes more than 5% profit, you got competition trying to out-do you by dropping the price. Try starting a business and see for yourself. I own 3 businesses and employ more than 70 people at one of them - and yes, it gross about $7M per year. Net profits are less than $70K per year. I'd like to charge more, but I can't because of something called "competition". Obama care sure does not help. Will have to do some layoffs - the hardest part is doing the layoff.
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06/29/2012 07:10 AM
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Re: Obamacare Will Force Me To Shut My Doors. I Own 8 Staffing Companies and Have Placed over 100,000 people the last few years...
Staffing companies allow corporations to have employees without providing benefits for them as they do their normal employees. It's a scam against the common worker.

In Arkansas the average pay from a staffing company is about $8.25/hr, while the staffing company charges about $15/hr.

Multiply that times hundreds of temp workers and somebody is making too damn much money helping corporations screw people over.

When all the staffing companies close their doors those jobs won't disappear. The only jobs you create are the three or four people you got staffing each office.There will still be demand for the temp workers. Maybe they will even get the salary and benefits they deserve.
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You're an complete idiot. So you don't need people to find these employees new jobs every several months? It's a temporary agency. You know how hard it is to place a person ? It's hard enough to find a job for yourself, let alone trying to find a job for someone else. You have to have a big staff to find jobs for these people. I can't believe there are actually people like you on earth.
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06/29/2012 07:18 AM
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I cannot offer government-approved health insurance to my temporary employees or afford to pay new federal taxes...
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good, that will stop greedy twats like you creaming loads of money hiring cheap immigrants and locals whilst you live in a massive house and drive a flash car.

get a proper fooking job.
Employment agencies are not needed, never were, you are a non entity.
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Hey fucknut, I do skilled trades pnly...$20_$40 positions. There are many different kinds of staffing companies. You must be one of the losers with no skills working with illegals for $8/hr... LOL
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Wow dude. You are rancid. The face on the turd in the bowl should have been yours. Be fucking nice asshole.
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06/29/2012 07:24 AM
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Re: Obamacare Will Force Me To Shut My Doors. I Own 8 Staffing Companies and Have Placed over 100,000 people the last few years...
Thanks Obama. Thousands of people across the country would rather have temporary work lasting a few months to a few years rather than sit at home with no work. Now I must close my doors because I can't provide for EVERY SINGLE TEMP that walks through my doors. HE RUINED THE STAFFING INDUSTRY.

:Opooper:
 Quoting: Doom Lover


You're full of crap. I work in the staffing industry and we do provide insurance for our thousands of working temps. Nothing's changed. Unless of course you do not provide any benefits to your employees at all. And if they are all short-term workers, benefits like insurance usually kick in after a certain time period, so you wouldn't be affected.
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Re: Obamacare Will Force Me To Shut My Doors. I Own 8 Staffing Companies and Have Placed over 100,000 people the last few years...
Thanks Obama. Thousands of people across the country would rather have temporary work lasting a few months to a few years rather than sit at home with no work. Now I must close my doors because I can't provide for EVERY SINGLE TEMP that walks through my doors. HE RUINED THE STAFFING INDUSTRY.

:Opooper:
 Quoting: Doom Lover


Then make it crystal clear to every single person who works for you exactly why you are doing what you are doing. maybe some of these O-Bot dolts will finally see the light when it affects them personally. Tell them and tell them to tell their friends. Show them your books if you have to.
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06/29/2012 07:32 AM
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06/29/2012 07:33 AM
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Re: Obamacare Will Force Me To Shut My Doors. I Own 8 Staffing Companies and Have Placed over 100,000 people the last few years...
A staffing company is nothing more than another cutthroat corporation.

Go ahead OP, shut your doors so instead employees can get the full pay that they deserve.
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clappa
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You do understand don't you that these companies using temps will just not hire extra workers when needed and just work their current employees more at the same payrate?

Also, the person who said he was making 17 and hour and now makes 8 is full of crap. Markups haven't been that high in the staffing industry for at least a decade if not longer.

Companies use agencies to not only fill in for vacationing workers, high productivity times, they also use agencies to recruit for skilled workers that they cannot find on their own.

On 8 an hour (a pay-rate I haven't even seen in my agency, or any agency for over a decade) the bill rate would most likely be around 12 an hour. This includes UI, WC, health insurance, , vacation pay, holiday pay,overhead, payroll processing, etc...Maybe the agency is making about 50 cents an hour pure profit. Maybe.

In addition, if the person was making 17 and hour and went back at 8 an hour for the same job, he's a complete moron.
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+1
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Re: Obamacare Will Force Me To Shut My Doors. I Own 8 Staffing Companies and Have Placed over 100,000 people the last few years...
Thanks Obama. Thousands of people across the country would rather have temporary work lasting a few months to a few years rather than sit at home with no work. Now I must close my doors because I can't provide for EVERY SINGLE TEMP that walks through my doors. HE RUINED THE STAFFING INDUSTRY.

:Opooper:
 Quoting: Doom Lover


If you were a real businessman and not some phony ass poser, you'd know that your temps should be 1099'rs.
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LOL, that will never happen. You want your average assembly worker to come in as a 1099? Never gonna happen. Period.
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Oh the horror of the affordable Healthcare, the horror!!! / sarc

Neo-cons, here's a solution for ya'll:

Marco Rubio (R) said on Romney supporting the individual mandate in Massachusetts: “But what a big difference. He supported it on the state level. Which means if you didn’t like it in Massachusetts, you could move to another state."

* hint, hint / wink, wink *
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Become a beach bum and sing at weird beach party's, and go surfing like Jesse Ventura does.

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Re: Obamacare Will Force Me To Shut My Doors. I Own 8 Staffing Companies and Have Placed over 100,000 people the last few years...
No, they do diddly squat. They tried to manipulate us into a W2, but we preferred doing a Corp-to-corp because that does not require them to do anything but generate a paycheck to us and that's it. Like the person above said - they decide that you need get paid X amount of dollars for specialized jobs (way lesser than actual market rates) while the corporations have a fixed amount for the position. Too bad for them that we found out the actual billing rate after their refusal to our request of 1 $ increase which would have just amounted to a mere 2000 USD for a year considering one works 50 weeks at 8 hours a day) while them fat cats were making 50K for doing absolutely nothing.
Even the latest contract of 9$ per hour is because we have to specifically go through the approved vendors of the corporation while bearing all expenses ourselves. And all this is considering the fact that our expertise was sought after by the corporation and we were giving the "staffing company" pimps a business deal with absolutely ZILCH input from them.
Sucks to lose 18,000 a year of hard earned money!!!!
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You had a really bad agency!! I'm sorry for your experience :o(


I've had nothing but good experiences - except this part where they have no jobs. :o\
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Thanks. Glad you had better experience.

Incidentally these 1d1ots are supposedly industry leaders - look them up - V O L T and their subsidiary P R O C U R E S T A F F and their vendors.

Glamorous on the outside, but behind the scenes, the unspoken truth leaves a lot to be desired of the industry per se.

<sigh>
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Staffing companies are the evil empire, eating away at a persons hourly salary a dollar at a time, they don't represent the employee, always the employer. Staffing companies will screw the employee at the first chance, and if there is a problem, the employee is gone, and the staffing company is telling the employer they will find a replacement right away. Fuck a staffing company.
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Not all of them are bad.

If you are bright and capable but not terribly good at networking, temp agencies are a Godsend.

I always got permanent jobs through them. They gutted temp agencies in Ontario and now it's 'who you know' times ten.

Fuck it. It I have to hustle that much for a job I'm going to push my creative projects, not 'work for the man'.

A prospective employer's loss, not mine.
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Maybe America deserves this... Sounds like many people are happy I'll go out of business along with my 45 emplyees. You people make me sick! Fucking libs!
 Quoting: Doom Lover


A better alternative would be for the US to adopt the same system they have in every other civilized country in the world and turf out all the insurance companies and other middle-men that jack the costs up to where even with a 'private' system taxpayers pay more per capita than anywhere else in the world.

Of course most of those ambulance-chasing malpractice lawyers would be out of work as well. Gee, what a pity.
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I cannot offer government-approved health insurance to my temporary employees or afford to pay new federal taxes...
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good, that will stop greedy twats like you creaming loads of money hiring cheap immigrants and locals whilst you live in a massive house and drive a flash car.

get a proper fooking job.
Employment agencies are not needed, never were, you are a non entity.
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The stupidest thing ever said on GLP. You are an idiot, and that is putting it lightly. You collectivists are something else. No one ever does enough for you. You always want more from people who actually produce. Your mentality and those like you make me sick and are ruining any possibility for a future with individual freedoms. You are the lowest of the low.

OP I applaud your success, don't pay attention to little twats like this fool who just wants our tax money to pay for his food stamps.

Also, don't be too down, this november all the leftist morans will be booted from congress and obamacare will be repealed!
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bump
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Thanks Obama. Thousands of people across the country would rather have temporary work lasting a few months to a few years rather than sit at home with no work. Now I must close my doors because I can't provide for EVERY SINGLE TEMP that walks through my doors. HE RUINED THE STAFFING INDUSTRY.
 Quoting: Doom Lover


If you were a real businessman and not some phony ass poser, you'd know that your temps should be 1099'rs.
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Make them a 1099 employee? 1099 would require, at a minimum, that the employee has his own business and has served other customers this year besides my staffing company. He would need to supply his own tools on the assignment, set his own work hours, and other aspects of “running his own business.”

Nice fail Obama SHILL....

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Op is either a fucking liar or a fucking retard

Which is it?
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Steal from your exploiters!

Take stuff from work!

And goof off on company time!
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06/29/2012 10:17 AM

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Op is either a fucking liar or a fucking retard

Which is it?
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Please explain. Oh wait you won't. Fucking liberal and your dumb ass one liners...
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Re: Obamacare Will Force Me To Shut My Doors. I Own 8 Staffing Companies and Have Placed over 100,000 people the last few years...
Thanks. Glad you had better experience.

Incidentally these 1d1ots are supposedly industry leaders - look them up - V O L T and their subsidiary P R O C U R E S T A F F and their vendors.

Glamorous on the outside, but behind the scenes, the unspoken truth leaves a lot to be desired of the industry per se.

<sigh>
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14206864


OMG!! I wish I knew you...I'd have told you to not even waste time with them!! They happen to be one of the places I mentioned before that couldn't do a correct invoice. LOL

They are also known to not pay the employees (or at least they were the last time I dealt with them). A friend went round in circles with them for months to get her 2 days worth of pay. :o\

So yep...you really did a get a bad one. Only people that should even consider them are day labor that have no skills and are desparate. IMHO anyway.

There are tons of great agencies out there...look for ones that don't do day labor. And most certainly, they shouldn't ask for payment from you!

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