Obamacare politcs poll....did this SCOTUS ruling cause a shift? | |
SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 06/28/2012 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the battle line is drawn after this SCOTUS ruling on Obamacare. No doubt this will be at least a major campaign issue if not the central point the entire presidential election with the whole election revolving around it. Quoting: SHR Romney is the Lock for the Republican nomination and Obama is the Lock for the Democratic nomination even though neither are the "Official" candidates until after the conventions. It's going to boil down to "Obamacare vs Repeal". If Obama gets re-elected?...then we can count on Obamacare being implemented virtually as it stands. Even if a majority of Republicans take over both houses it will be very difficult if not impossible to repeal with a Pro-Obamacare President. If Romney wins? He can issue executive orders immediately to wound it deeply, but it will still be up to congress to drive the stake through it's heart. That will only happen with a majority congress that is anti-Obamacare and that will mean a Republican Majority in both houses and may even require some Democrats signing on to kill the Act and a president who is willing to kill it. You really have to assume that the only viable vote against Obamacare is now going to be Romney, he'll be forced into repealing it, even if he wasn't fully in favor of doing so prior to this SCOTUS decision, he will be forced into doing it now, it'll be central to his campaign and it could not be avoided or danced around. For you "third party" and Ron Paul supporters, has this made you decide to vote for Romney to kill Obamacare or to vote for Obama to save Obamacare? It's well known that I regularly trash Ron Paul and his supporters so I am certainly not biased in a positive manner concerning anything RP, but I think we all could safely say that Ron Paul is not only dead against Obamacare but would consider it being repealed a very important goal of any President. Even if he would likely be hampered in doing so himself due to his rigid ideology, I do not think anyone could say he is anti-repeal. Soooo....has this ruling changed anyones position as to who they will vote for come this November? As of this moment 83 people (16.6%) selected changing from other to Romney. That is a significant number of people changing based on one event. If the votes are counted properly this November - a big IF - this election could be a landslide, For here?....that would probably translate into 75 million more votes for Romney...easy.... ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
Borat Sagdiyev User ID: 18344634 United States 06/28/2012 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will be curious to see how the poll pans out. Quoting: Bluebird Personally, I am still in shock at this ruling and did not expect it. Obama repeatedly said it would not raise our taxes at all. What a surprise that he lied yet again--not. But no way is this bill of his truly constitutional regardless of what the SCOTUS says. . Buy X ... or the government will Tax you if you don't. Yeah, we need to get that fucker out of there before he does more of the same. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18743311 Poland 06/28/2012 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the Fuck is wrong with you fat fucks!!!!! Quoting: Bowmanator Stop eating shit and start exercising and you won't need care for fuck sake!!! Hey fathead, I don't want the insurance. It's being forced on us, or we pay a fine. So whether we are perfectly fit and healthy, it doesn't matter. This law says tough shit. Whether you want it or not, you're going to get it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18743311 Poland 06/28/2012 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the battle line is drawn after this SCOTUS ruling on Obamacare. No doubt this will be at least a major campaign issue if not the central point the entire presidential election with the whole election revolving around it. Quoting: SHR Romney is the Lock for the Republican nomination and Obama is the Lock for the Democratic nomination even though neither are the "Official" candidates until after the conventions. It's going to boil down to "Obamacare vs Repeal". If Obama gets re-elected?...then we can count on Obamacare being implemented virtually as it stands. Even if a majority of Republicans take over both houses it will be very difficult if not impossible to repeal with a Pro-Obamacare President. If Romney wins? He can issue executive orders immediately to wound it deeply, but it will still be up to congress to drive the stake through it's heart. That will only happen with a majority congress that is anti-Obamacare and that will mean a Republican Majority in both houses and may even require some Democrats signing on to kill the Act and a president who is willing to kill it. You really have to assume that the only viable vote against Obamacare is now going to be Romney, he'll be forced into repealing it, even if he wasn't fully in favor of doing so prior to this SCOTUS decision, he will be forced into doing it now, it'll be central to his campaign and it could not be avoided or danced around. For you "third party" and Ron Paul supporters, has this made you decide to vote for Romney to kill Obamacare or to vote for Obama to save Obamacare? It's well known that I regularly trash Ron Paul and his supporters so I am certainly not biased in a positive manner concerning anything RP, but I think we all could safely say that Ron Paul is not only dead against Obamacare but would consider it being repealed a very important goal of any President. Even if he would likely be hampered in doing so himself due to his rigid ideology, I do not think anyone could say he is anti-repeal. Soooo....has this ruling changed anyones position as to who they will vote for come this November? As of this moment 83 people (16.6%) selected changing from other to Romney. That is a significant number of people changing based on one event. If the votes are counted properly this November - a big IF - this election could be a landslide, For here?....that would probably translate into 75 million more votes for Romney...easy.... LOL! True true. However, there are probably more Paul supporters here than in the general population...were they the ones who changed from other to Romney or were those Obama to Romney? |
Debauchery User ID: 15455863 United States 06/28/2012 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the Fuck is wrong with you fat fucks!!!!! Quoting: Bowmanator Stop eating shit and start exercising and you won't need care for fuck sake!!! Stop spamming every thread with this garbage. And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it. I am an evil giraffe, and I shall eat more leaves from this tree than perhaps I should, so that other giraffes may die. |
FatalW1shes User ID: 18009481 United States 06/28/2012 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So the battle line is drawn after this SCOTUS ruling on Obamacare. No doubt this will be at least a major campaign issue if not the central point the entire presidential election with the whole election revolving around it. Quoting: SHR Romney is the Lock for the Republican nomination and Obama is the Lock for the Democratic nomination even though neither are the "Official" candidates until after the conventions. It's going to boil down to "Obamacare vs Repeal". If Obama gets re-elected?...then we can count on Obamacare being implemented virtually as it stands. Even if a majority of Republicans take over both houses it will be very difficult if not impossible to repeal with a Pro-Obamacare President. If Romney wins? He can issue executive orders immediately to wound it deeply, but it will still be up to congress to drive the stake through it's heart. That will only happen with a majority congress that is anti-Obamacare and that will mean a Republican Majority in both houses and may even require some Democrats signing on to kill the Act and a president who is willing to kill it. You really have to assume that the only viable vote against Obamacare is now going to be Romney, he'll be forced into repealing it, even if he wasn't fully in favor of doing so prior to this SCOTUS decision, he will be forced into doing it now, it'll be central to his campaign and it could not be avoided or danced around. For you "third party" and Ron Paul supporters, has this made you decide to vote for Romney to kill Obamacare or to vote for Obama to save Obamacare? It's well known that I regularly trash Ron Paul and his supporters so I am certainly not biased in a positive manner concerning anything RP, but I think we all could safely say that Ron Paul is not only dead against Obamacare but would consider it being repealed a very important goal of any President. Even if he would likely be hampered in doing so himself due to his rigid ideology, I do not think anyone could say he is anti-repeal. Soooo....has this ruling changed anyones position as to who they will vote for come this November? I know you are going to fucking love this so enjoy your moment. As much as you hate and despise me, and I dislike you, I am changing my view on voting for Ron Paul I have to vote for Romney now. There is no other way. But before I do it, I will say it leaves a nasty taste in my mouth. I cannot help but to think that this was the plan all along. Why would they put Romney, a man that voted for Romney Care, a man that shit all over the second amendment and banned Assault weapons, the man that couldn't even beat McCain in 2008 as the front runner? Is this all by design? Is he a white Obama? I can't fucking trust any of the fucking politicians anymore. I swore I would NEVER vote for who CNN and MSN and every other fucking news channel said I should vote for. They PICKED ROMEY!! The GOP got fucking nasty and mean and fucked over everybody to put Romney in the lead. Is it by design that they want us to HATE OBAMA SOOO much that we are willing to VOTE FOR ANYBODY but Him???? If so is Romney that choice by design? Gawd damnit. Sorry, but if you didn't say I was somehow supposed to hate you, you could have claimed to be my bestest buddy and I wouldn't have known any different, shrug. If you want to not only repeal Obamacare but get this retard community organizer out of office, then vote for the person that has the best shot at doing it. The Primaries are over...Ron Paul lost. He and his supporters put up the best fight they could, but he didn't win, that's the way things are. I've had primaries where "My Guy" didn't win either..after that, you go with the best shot at accomplishing what "Your Guy" wanted and what you would like to happen, that's never been some off the menu also ran who gets a vote to only make the voter "feel better" about themselves. I know because I have done it..it's a mistake I won't make again. You are about to make that same mistake again. We all are because we want Obama out. The same thing happened in 2008. Everybody was so sick of bush they got Obama. Now we are so Sick of Obama we are going to vote a white Obama in. If you can do it with a straight face then fine. And for the record regardless if you remember me or not...I think you are an asshole. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7654230 United States 06/28/2012 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was a Ron Paul supporter. I would have probably voted Republican if they Repulicans had nominated ANYONE beside Romney. ROmney is the inventor of Obamacare. Like Obama, Romney is a STATIST. Obama and Romney both believe that the purpose of government is to mandate how you'll live. Why would I trust the inventor of Obamacare to get rid of Obamacare? |
DILKe User ID: 18219913 United States 06/28/2012 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Marxism is the true enemy of our civilization. What is Cultural Marxism: [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)] |
Evil_Twin User ID: 14319721 United States 06/28/2012 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are about to make that same mistake again. We all are because we want Obama out. Quoting: FatalW1shes The same thing happened in 2008. Everybody was so sick of bush they got Obama. Now we are so Sick of Obama we are going to vote a white Obama in. If you can do it with a straight face then fine. And for the record regardless if you remember me or not...I think you are an asshole. Cool You get to vote for Perot again, and claim plausible deniability while Obama wrecks the country. "Not my fault, mang, I voted for teh guy who had no chance!" |
FatalW1shes User ID: 18009481 United States 06/28/2012 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are about to make that same mistake again. We all are because we want Obama out. Quoting: FatalW1shes The same thing happened in 2008. Everybody was so sick of bush they got Obama. Now we are so Sick of Obama we are going to vote a white Obama in. If you can do it with a straight face then fine. And for the record regardless if you remember me or not...I think you are an asshole. Cool You get to vote for Perot again, and claim plausible deniability while Obama wrecks the country. "Not my fault, mang, I voted for teh guy who had no chance!" I already said I was Voting for Romney. I guess you missed that. Perhaps selective reading was the cause of that. I don't have to like it. But I'm doing it to get rid of Obama. That isn't a good thing, it's voting for the lesser of two evils again. The Press loves Romney. That alone should make you take pause. To be honest with you I liked Herman Cain, but they sure got rid of him didn't they. |
Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States 06/28/2012 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What the Fuck is wrong with you fat fucks!!!!! Quoting: Bowmanator Stop eating shit and start exercising and you won't need care for fuck sake!!! Yeah, we are a tiny percentage fatter than Brits! Biggest difference we have teeth with which to chew our food. And not needing care is your NHS plan, not ours. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1507912 United States 06/28/2012 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They all make me sick. I do feel well enough to send some chocolate pies with creme on top with a special ingredient, to the president, his staff,and every member of congress that brought this monstrosity to put on the heads of the people. I would send it with thanks, signed THE HELP, and hope they enjoy eating my pie! I hope you understand my message! |
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Evil_Twin User ID: 14319721 United States 06/28/2012 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are about to make that same mistake again. We all are because we want Obama out. Quoting: FatalW1shes The same thing happened in 2008. Everybody was so sick of bush they got Obama. Now we are so Sick of Obama we are going to vote a white Obama in. If you can do it with a straight face then fine. And for the record regardless if you remember me or not...I think you are an asshole. Cool You get to vote for Perot again, and claim plausible deniability while Obama wrecks the country. "Not my fault, mang, I voted for teh guy who had no chance!" I already said I was Voting for Romney. I guess you missed that. Perhaps selective reading was the cause of that. I don't have to like it. But I'm doing it to get rid of Obama. That isn't a good thing, it's voting for the lesser of two evils again. The Press loves Romney. That alone should make you take pause. To be honest with you I liked Herman Cain, but they sure got rid of him didn't they. Fair enough. I haven't read the entire thread. Romney was about my last choice for a republican nominee. I'm not a big fan. Still, I'll take him 100x over another 4 years of Obama, and feel good about it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13519069 United States 06/28/2012 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will be curious to see how the poll pans out. Quoting: Bluebird Personally, I am still in shock at this ruling and did not expect it. Obama repeatedly said it would not raise our taxes at all. What a surprise that he lied yet again--not. But no way is this bill of his truly constitutional regardless of what the SCOTUS says. Surprise... If anyone paid attention from the beginning toDear I sayGlenn Beck or Hannity, you would have known a long time ago. The truth is out there, you just have to know where to listen..FOX |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14158313 United States 06/28/2012 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are about to make that same mistake again. We all are because we want Obama out. Quoting: FatalW1shes The same thing happened in 2008. Everybody was so sick of bush they got Obama. Now we are so Sick of Obama we are going to vote a white Obama in. If you can do it with a straight face then fine. And for the record regardless if you remember me or not...I think you are an asshole. Cool You get to vote for Perot again, and claim plausible deniability while Obama wrecks the country. "Not my fault, mang, I voted for teh guy who had no chance!" So if Obama was headed into the election with a seemingly insurmountable lead in the poles, would you vote for him just because the other candidate had no chance? Just curious. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14158313 United States 06/28/2012 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will be curious to see how the poll pans out. Quoting: Bluebird Personally, I am still in shock at this ruling and did not expect it. Obama repeatedly said it would not raise our taxes at all. What a surprise that he lied yet again--not. But no way is this bill of his truly constitutional regardless of what the SCOTUS says. Surprise... If anyone paid attention from the beginning toDear I sayGlenn Beck or Hannity, you would have known a long time ago. The truth is out there, you just have to know where to listen..FOX Good shit! LOL! |
Evil_Twin User ID: 14319721 United States 06/28/2012 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are about to make that same mistake again. We all are because we want Obama out. Quoting: FatalW1shes The same thing happened in 2008. Everybody was so sick of bush they got Obama. Now we are so Sick of Obama we are going to vote a white Obama in. If you can do it with a straight face then fine. And for the record regardless if you remember me or not...I think you are an asshole. Cool You get to vote for Perot again, and claim plausible deniability while Obama wrecks the country. "Not my fault, mang, I voted for teh guy who had no chance!" So if Obama was headed into the election with a seemingly insurmountable lead in the poles, would you vote for him just because the other candidate had no chance? Just curious. No more than I would have voted for Jimmy Carter in 1980. |
Brevet User ID: 8496381 United States 06/28/2012 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't know if this has been mentioned---IT'S ALL BUSH'S FAULT!!!!! I am a conservative, but Bush appointed this dickhead, Roberts, just so he could easily sail through the hearings. Don't want to piss off dems, doncha know. And he did, because he had a minimal record, and no one looked into what he really stood for. Roberts is a PROGRESSIVE POS just like Bush was. DAMN BUSH TO HELL. I'm sure Jebbie Bush (still angling for the VP job) will be out with an op-ed shortly congratulating Roberts for his "tough" decision. Dear God--we've lost the Republic. |
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FatalW1shes User ID: 18009481 United States 06/28/2012 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are about to make that same mistake again. We all are because we want Obama out. Quoting: FatalW1shes The same thing happened in 2008. Everybody was so sick of bush they got Obama. Now we are so Sick of Obama we are going to vote a white Obama in. If you can do it with a straight face then fine. And for the record regardless if you remember me or not...I think you are an asshole. Cool You get to vote for Perot again, and claim plausible deniability while Obama wrecks the country. "Not my fault, mang, I voted for teh guy who had no chance!" I already said I was Voting for Romney. I guess you missed that. Perhaps selective reading was the cause of that. I don't have to like it. But I'm doing it to get rid of Obama. That isn't a good thing, it's voting for the lesser of two evils again. The Press loves Romney. That alone should make you take pause. To be honest with you I liked Herman Cain, but they sure got rid of him didn't they. Fair enough. I haven't read the entire thread. Romney was about my last choice for a republican nominee. I'm not a big fan. Still, I'll take him 100x over another 4 years of Obama, and feel good about it. I'll do it, with great pause. At least I know Romney has business sense. He is a self made millionaire. That has to count for something. On that I can swallow that hard pill and just vote with a blind eye. Anybody but Obama. We won't survive another 4 years of Obama. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15115766 United States 06/28/2012 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone voting for this snake needs their head checked... Black people are thinking, oh? now we have healthcare, but wait till their five grand tax return, from their 4 fatherless children, and their minimum wage job at churches chicken dissapears to pay for healthcare... riots in the streets!!!! And damn, I was going to stick some 24's on my 91 caddy!!!! >.< |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14564403 United States 06/28/2012 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone know about what your hero Romney did to health care in Mass???? [link to en.wikipedia.org] You guys are drinking Kool aid. |
Shingen User ID: 11870625 United States 06/28/2012 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The anarchist's perspective: "Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey "But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner "If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15115766 United States 06/28/2012 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone know about what your hero Romney did to health care in Mass???? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14564403 [link to en.wikipedia.org] You guys are drinking Kool aid. Did you know that Mass. is a common wealth. The people voted this in action. America as a whole doesn't support Obamacare. So why should we be forced to pay for something we don't want. |
scimitar User ID: 18309171 United States 06/28/2012 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My anticipation is that Obama will win again and we will continue the slide to a > 20 trillion national debt...... Closer to a CCC (Communist Currency Collapse). GoodBye Cruel World!!! ....(Just a Euphemism).... Ominous regressions One Truth... many realities |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14564403 United States 06/28/2012 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone know about what your hero Romney did to health care in Mass???? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14564403 [link to en.wikipedia.org] You guys are drinking Kool aid. Did you know that Mass. is a common wealth. The people voted this in action. America as a whole doesn't support Obamacare. So why should we be forced to pay for something we don't want. "The people as a whole don't support".....don't be so sure. You are on a very conservative forum pretending to be conspiratorial. |
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Anonymous Patriot User ID: 17683307 United States 06/28/2012 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because of Obamacare and the fact that insurance companies along with pharmaceutical companies must now pay billions annually to the federal government,I can no longer be included on my wife's medical insurance, which is a family plan. Because I have a job and my employer offers insurance, I am now forced to get that insurance for myself. The end result is that our family must now pay 2 premiums to be insured. This will cost me another $150+ per month, with no reduction in my wife's premium. So much for affordable. It is only affordable for those who will get it free because they don't work. Obama can go fuck himself. |
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