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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15359896 United States 06/28/2012 05:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The gov't doesn't have a good reputation for running anything. That's the first problem. Lately, nothing here has been "fair". The US citizens have become the second class citizens while illegals and those deemed special are rewarded off of the middle classes backs. So people don't like being used all the time unfairly. While our courts did right by making sure they know they can't force us to buy something, the fact that it's connected to taxes that makes it legal. Now, some people are exempt from paying for various reasons, not fair. If you can't or don't pay since it's tied in with our taxes that is a way to seize money, property and even throw people in jail. This is nothing like some of the other countries healthcare. This is just a way to funnel our money to whomever they want it funneled to. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18761345 United States 06/28/2012 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Few things in modern America are more misunderstood and vilified as the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare.) In actuality, many benefits of the program are already changing people’s lives, finances, and ultimate long-term health. Many more benefits will go into effect, incrementally, over the next few years. It’s not the single payer universal plan that would really solve the problems, but it is a far cry from the do-nothing realities of the last several decades that saw health care and affordability erode in our nation. [link to spydersden.wordpress.com] |
Lindalee User ID: 3177816 United States 06/28/2012 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's nothing wrong with Obama care, but there is a lot of dis info out there, mostly by the GOP...... The reason behind the whole thing, including AG Eric Holder, is that the GOP "wants to take back the White House" , in other words, get the black man out , even though he is half-white, and even though he is probably smarter than 10 of them put together , and because he cares more for the low and middle class, and wants millionaires/billionaires to pay the same percentage of tax as we the little people have to pay... I hope that clears up some of it for you ! Last Edited by Winter Rose on 06/28/2012 05:52 PM Circling the Sun @ 63,000 MPH <3 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18761345 United States 06/28/2012 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The gov't doesn't have a good reputation for running anything. That's the first problem. Quoting: D'Light Lately, nothing here has been "fair". The US citizens have become the second class citizens while illegals and those deemed special are rewarded off of the middle classes backs. So people don't like being used all the time unfairly. While our courts did right by making sure they know they can't force us to buy something, the fact that it's connected to taxes that makes it legal. Now, some people are exempt from paying for various reasons, not fair. If you can't or don't pay since it's tied in with our taxes that is a way to seize money, property and even throw people in jail. This is nothing like some of the other countries healthcare. This is just a way to funnel our money to whomever they want it funneled to. "Obamacare" is the REPUBLIKAN free market solution to reforming our broken, expensive mess of a healthcare system. What is YOUR fucking solution?? |
ceawaves User ID: 18694735 Germany 06/28/2012 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's nothing wrong with Obama care, but there is a lot of dis info out there, mostly by the GOP...... Quoting: Lindalee The reason behind the whole thing, including AG Eric Holder, is that the GOP "wants to take back the White House" , in other words, get the black man out , even though he is half-white, and even though he is probably smarter than 10 of them put together , and because he cares more for the low and middle class, and wants millionaires/billionaires to pay the same percentage of tax as we the little people have to pay... I hope that clears up some of it for you ! WOW there's a new thought!! It's a RACE Thang!!! Monkey see monkey do? |
Lindalee User ID: 3177816 United States 06/28/2012 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's nothing wrong with Obama care, but there is a lot of dis info out there, mostly by the GOP...... Quoting: Lindalee The reason behind the whole thing, including AG Eric Holder, is that the GOP "wants to take back the White House" , in other words, get the black man out , even though he is half-white, and even though he is probably smarter than 10 of them put together , and because he cares more for the low and middle class, and wants millionaires/billionaires to pay the same percentage of tax as we the little people have to pay... I hope that clears up some of it for you ! WOW there's a new thought!! It's a RACE Thang!!! Monkey see monkey do? It's been about race since the first day he took office, and I think everyone knows that, but doesn't admit it for whatever reason.... I'm a white woman with blue eyes if you were inferring something there Circling the Sun @ 63,000 MPH <3 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15359896 United States 06/28/2012 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The gov't doesn't have a good reputation for running anything. That's the first problem. Quoting: D'Light Lately, nothing here has been "fair". The US citizens have become the second class citizens while illegals and those deemed special are rewarded off of the middle classes backs. So people don't like being used all the time unfairly. While our courts did right by making sure they know they can't force us to buy something, the fact that it's connected to taxes that makes it legal. Now, some people are exempt from paying for various reasons, not fair. If you can't or don't pay since it's tied in with our taxes that is a way to seize money, property and even throw people in jail. This is nothing like some of the other countries healthcare. This is just a way to funnel our money to whomever they want it funneled to. "Obamacare" is the REPUBLIKAN free market solution to reforming our broken, expensive mess of a healthcare system. What is YOUR fucking solution?? My solution is far too out there. If insurance didn't exist then cost would be much lower. I hate the way our insurance is right now and I'm covered. I've also had to turn down COBRA before because it was too expensive. Healthcare needs to be re-done. I don't believe penalizing people with the iRS is right. I've brought the whole IRS thing up years ago with healthcare and how terrible that is. People can go to jail over this but no-one will admit it. PS; stop acting like you know me because it's obvious you haven't read enough of my posts over the years to know where I stand. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18761345 United States 06/28/2012 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The gov't doesn't have a good reputation for running anything. That's the first problem. Quoting: D'Light Lately, nothing here has been "fair". The US citizens have become the second class citizens while illegals and those deemed special are rewarded off of the middle classes backs. So people don't like being used all the time unfairly. While our courts did right by making sure they know they can't force us to buy something, the fact that it's connected to taxes that makes it legal. Now, some people are exempt from paying for various reasons, not fair. If you can't or don't pay since it's tied in with our taxes that is a way to seize money, property and even throw people in jail. This is nothing like some of the other countries healthcare. This is just a way to funnel our money to whomever they want it funneled to. "Obamacare" is the REPUBLIKAN free market solution to reforming our broken, expensive mess of a healthcare system. What is YOUR fucking solution?? My solution is far too out there. If insurance didn't exist then cost would be much lower. I hate the way our insurance is right now and I'm covered. I've also had to turn down COBRA before because it was too expensive. Healthcare needs to be re-done. I don't believe penalizing people with the iRS is right. I've brought the whole IRS thing up years ago with healthcare and how terrible that is. People can go to jail over this but no-one will admit it. PS; stop acting like you know me because it's obvious you haven't read enough of my posts over the years to know where I stand. You have no fucking solution. People like you just talk out of their asses. You want to cut out insurance companies but you're afraid of being called communist, is that it? How would you cut out the insurance companies? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18755485 United States 06/28/2012 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's nothing wrong with Obama care, but there is a lot of dis info out there, mostly by the GOP...... Quoting: Lindalee The reason behind the whole thing, including AG Eric Holder, is that the GOP "wants to take back the White House" , in other words, get the black man out , even though he is half-white, and even though he is probably smarter than 10 of them put together , and because he cares more for the low and middle class, and wants millionaires/billionaires to pay the same percentage of tax as we the little people have to pay... I hope that clears up some of it for you ! WOW there's a new thought!! It's a RACE Thang!!! Monkey see monkey do? It's been about race since the first day he took office, and I think everyone knows that, but doesn't admit it for whatever reason.... I'm a white woman with blue eyes if you were inferring something there you idiots who say this shit - you NEVER explain how it is the black man that whites are supposedly racist against - how is it that white people elected him in the first place? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15359896 United States 06/28/2012 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The gov't doesn't have a good reputation for running anything. That's the first problem. Quoting: D'Light Lately, nothing here has been "fair". The US citizens have become the second class citizens while illegals and those deemed special are rewarded off of the middle classes backs. So people don't like being used all the time unfairly. While our courts did right by making sure they know they can't force us to buy something, the fact that it's connected to taxes that makes it legal. Now, some people are exempt from paying for various reasons, not fair. If you can't or don't pay since it's tied in with our taxes that is a way to seize money, property and even throw people in jail. This is nothing like some of the other countries healthcare. This is just a way to funnel our money to whomever they want it funneled to. "Obamacare" is the REPUBLIKAN free market solution to reforming our broken, expensive mess of a healthcare system. What is YOUR fucking solution?? My solution is far too out there. If insurance didn't exist then cost would be much lower. I hate the way our insurance is right now and I'm covered. I've also had to turn down COBRA before because it was too expensive. Healthcare needs to be re-done. I don't believe penalizing people with the iRS is right. I've brought the whole IRS thing up years ago with healthcare and how terrible that is. People can go to jail over this but no-one will admit it. PS; stop acting like you know me because it's obvious you haven't read enough of my posts over the years to know where I stand. You have no fucking solution. People like you just talk out of their asses. You want to cut out insurance companies but you're afraid of being called communist, is that it? How would you cut out the insurance companies? Are you 15? Regular wage earners in Costa Rica can get a broken leg fixed without insurance and without losing their home or filing bankruptcy and it's not because they are rich and not because they are communist. Now, because of your rude behavior, I'll let you look it up on the net yourself if you want to know anymore about it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 15039298 Australia 06/28/2012 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's nothing wrong with Obama care, but there is a lot of dis info out there, mostly by the GOP...... Quoting: Lindalee The reason behind the whole thing, including AG Eric Holder, is that the GOP "wants to take back the White House" , in other words, get the black man out , even though he is half-white, and even though he is probably smarter than 10 of them put together , and because he cares more for the low and middle class, and wants millionaires/billionaires to pay the same percentage of tax as we the little people have to pay... I hope that clears up some of it for you ! WOW there's a new thought!! It's a RACE Thang!!! Monkey see monkey do? It's been about race since the first day he took office, and I think everyone knows that, but doesn't admit it for whatever reason.... I'm a white woman with blue eyes if you were inferring something there well it's not called the White House for nothing you know. |
Krautard (OP) User ID: 18725089 Germany 06/28/2012 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thanks everyone, but I'm more confused now, ...mmmmm, I'll keep doing research on it. ---------------------- Here we have a form of socialized obligatory medcare, not too bad I keep hearing, several companies offer the insurance and you can chose your own doctor and stuff, also the head of the family pays for it and the rest of the family (dependents) gets automatic coverage, I never go to the doc myself, i'm never sick so I dont know but I jusr hear good things about the system aand overall care... the employer usually pays, you can also pay it privately (i.e. freelancers), if unemployed the gov pays till you have a job again. |
IJumpInIt User ID: 11511435 United States 06/28/2012 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What we had as a middle class is now 100% assured to be destroyed because they will be 'taxed' to death with nothing left to survive on so they will have to turn to the Govt for help. This is class-warfare 100% and will send anyones money to someone else the Govt deems worthy to get it. If you do not understand this, then maybe this will get you.. SIEG HEIL!! :hitler: :wacko: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18559631 Mexico 06/28/2012 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't get it either. It's going to help those most in need, and those in need are the most against it (the poor, uneducated folks.) I think they've been brainwashed into thinking it's bad. They WILL take advantage of it when they need it tho. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15039298 Australia 06/28/2012 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In simple terms.. By allowing Obamacare to pass, The Government can tell you 100% what to do at any time and any place from birth to death. You are not free to do what you want anymore, unless a Government worker tells you it is ok. Quoting: IJumpInIt 11511435 What we had as a middle class is now 100% assured to be destroyed because they will be 'taxed' to death with nothing left to survive on so they will have to turn to the Govt for help. This is class-warfare 100% and will send anyones money to someone else the Govt deems worthy to get it. If you do not understand this, then maybe this will get you.. SIEG HEIL!! :hitler: :wacko: as if you had any freedom to begin with. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 18725089 Germany 06/28/2012 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am slowly understanding the REAL issues here, the healthcare itself is just the excuse for the total control of people's lives, bodies and minds and that of their children. Sure, it may seem like a good idea at first "healthcare for all" but at the end it's surely a trap, it always is. |
Bent User ID: 1441871 United States 06/28/2012 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am slowly understanding the REAL issues here, the healthcare itself is just the excuse for the total control of people's lives, bodies and minds and that of their children. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18725089 Sure, it may seem like a good idea at first "healthcare for all" but at the end it's surely a trap, it always is. It is an ideological battle between people who think for themselves and people who need someone to think for them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9107938 United States 06/28/2012 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There's nothing wrong with Obama care, but there is a lot of dis info out there, mostly by the GOP...... Quoting: Lindalee The reason behind the whole thing, including AG Eric Holder, is that the GOP "wants to take back the White House" , in other words, get the black man out , even though he is half-white, and even though he is probably smarter than 10 of them put together , and because he cares more for the low and middle class, and wants millionaires/billionaires to pay the same percentage of tax as we the little people have to pay... I hope that clears up some of it for you ! WOW there's a new thought!! It's a RACE Thang!!! Monkey see monkey do? It's been about race since the first day he took office, and I think everyone knows that, but doesn't admit it for whatever reason.... I'm a white woman with blue eyes if you were inferring something there Your husband/boyfriend is black isnt he. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18414782 United States 06/28/2012 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am slowly understanding the REAL issues here, the healthcare itself is just the excuse for the total control of people's lives, bodies and minds and that of their children. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18725089 Sure, it may seem like a good idea at first "healthcare for all" but at the end it's surely a trap, it always is. Yup. Road to hell is paved with faux good intentions. |