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reader1 User ID: 17808587 United States 06/28/2012 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | eventually a two tier system will develop. the upper class that can afford to pay a $500.00 dollars visit and the rest of the people with regular insurance that will be seen by an inexperienced mid-level provider that is anxious to go home to see american idol. |
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SoulWinner (OP) User ID: 16639840 United States 06/28/2012 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Once people start suffering from this communist bullshit and the economy is further destroyed, even the useless eaters will want to repeal it. Once they figure out what that means. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18779925 Interesting point. I lived a while in Europe and recall nobody wanting to change their system; but I was young, indifferent, and usually intoxicated. ...Loving souls, starving trolls... |
SoulWinner (OP) User ID: 16639840 United States 06/28/2012 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | eventually a two tier system will develop. Quoting: reader1 17808587 the upper class that can afford to pay a $500.00 dollars visit and the rest of the people with regular insurance that will be seen by an inexperienced mid-level provider that is anxious to go home to see american idol. You know, I think you are right. I truly hope and pray this thing somehow gets repealed very quickly. ...Loving souls, starving trolls... |
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Bluebird User ID: 730536 United States 06/28/2012 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My friends who live in France have always paid on the side to see a "real" doctor when they get sick. I'd have to think under this rationing and coverage only if "cost effective" those who can afford better are certainly going to do that. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
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SoulWinner (OP) User ID: 16639840 United States 06/28/2012 11:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes in medical tourism. It already exists. You think health care in the US is the best in the world? Quoting: Mr. Toppit I guess it does exist, doesn't it. :) To answer your question, yes and no. I think government regulation stifles the best conventional health care system in the world. That is why wealthy foreign leaders often travel here for procedures. ...Loving souls, starving trolls... |
SoulWinner (OP) User ID: 16639840 United States 06/28/2012 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My friends who live in France have always paid on the side to see a "real" doctor when they get sick. Quoting: Bluebird I'd have to think under this rationing and coverage only if "cost effective" those who can afford better are certainly going to do that. I think you are right. My 83-year-old dad would probably not be here today if we lived in Europe. I dislike even typing that. ...Loving souls, starving trolls... |
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SoulWinner (OP) User ID: 16639840 United States 06/28/2012 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh yeah.....the rich dual citizens of the U.S. will just fly over to Israel to get their healthcare. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18746323 . More incentive to get rich! Last Edited by SoulWinner on 06/28/2012 11:43 PM ...Loving souls, starving trolls... |
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anonimalle User ID: 17941240 United States 06/28/2012 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rumor has it, some socialized nations have a black market for health care because MDs loathe the government system. For example, a Swedish doctor might provide services for cash to circumvent the bureaucratic mess. Does anyone think that will happen here? If so, I wonder if the black market forces would accomplish what regulation and government interference stifles, namely high-quality, reasonably affordable health care. (This is my first thread ever, so forgive me if i fail to monitor it like an expert). Quoting: SoulWinner pssssst be careful of the use of black in any unfavorable way, you might be called a racist. Behind every myth lies a mystery, and every legend holds an echo of the truth …… Que Sera Sera "For not by numbers of men nor by measure of body but by valor of soul is war decided" Bilisarius " At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war." Gates of Vienna. "May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck." |
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SoulWinner (OP) User ID: 16639840 United States 06/28/2012 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rumor has it, some socialized nations have a black market for health care because MDs loathe the government system. For example, a Swedish doctor might provide services for cash to circumvent the bureaucratic mess. Does anyone think that will happen here? If so, I wonder if the black market forces would accomplish what regulation and government interference stifles, namely high-quality, reasonably affordable health care. (This is my first thread ever, so forgive me if i fail to monitor it like an expert). Quoting: SoulWinner pssssst be careful of the use of black in any unfavorable way, you might be called a racist. Yikes! You are right. ...Loving souls, starving trolls... |
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SoulWinner (OP) User ID: 16639840 United States 06/28/2012 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hope that was an attempt of humor on your part. or are you anti dog? or anti black? confusing. My apologies, I was trying to be funny. The picture by your name has a black dog, so I was pretending it was the dog in the picture replying to me. I love dogs, and I love my black friends. ...Loving souls, starving trolls... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18776394 United States 06/28/2012 11:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rumor has it, some socialized nations have a black market for health care because MDs loathe the government system. For example, a Swedish doctor might provide services for cash to circumvent the bureaucratic mess. Does anyone think that will happen here? If so, I wonder if the black market forces would accomplish what regulation and government interference stifles, namely high-quality, reasonably affordable health care. (This is my first thread ever, so forgive me if i fail to monitor it like an expert). Quoting: SoulWinner YOUR ESTIMATE.... IS CORRECT ON MANY FRONTS.... AMERICANS WILL CIRCUMVENT ALL OBSTACALES... LIKE AMERICANS ALWAYS DO AGAINST UNBELIVABLE ODDS... SURVIVE AND ACELL!!!! HOW??? BY "THE GRACE OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN"!!! WHAT THIS NATION WAS BUILT ON!!!! BY THE GRACE OF GOD.... PEACE AND GRACE AND LOVE TO AMERICAN IN "THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST"!!! |
SoulWinner (OP) User ID: 16639840 United States 06/29/2012 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rumor has it, some socialized nations have a black market for health care because MDs loathe the government system. For example, a Swedish doctor might provide services for cash to circumvent the bureaucratic mess. Does anyone think that will happen here? If so, I wonder if the black market forces would accomplish what regulation and government interference stifles, namely high-quality, reasonably affordable health care. (This is my first thread ever, so forgive me if i fail to monitor it like an expert). Quoting: SoulWinner YOUR ESTIMATE.... IS CORRECT ON MANY FRONTS.... AMERICANS WILL CIRCUMVENT ALL OBSTACALES... LIKE AMERICANS ALWAYS DO AGAINST UNBELIVABLE ODDS... SURVIVE AND ACELL!!!! HOW??? BY "THE GRACE OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN"!!! WHAT THIS NATION WAS BUILT ON!!!! BY THE GRACE OF GOD.... PEACE AND GRACE AND LOVE TO AMERICAN IN "THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST"!!! I am with you on overcoming and extending the peace, grace, and love of Jesus Christ to everyone, even in other countries...but by definition, a "black market" is illegal, so wouldn't using the black market violate scripture? What you and I call overcoming, the government (IRS in particular) might call breaking the law. ...Loving souls, starving trolls... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18840171 United States 06/29/2012 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rumor has it, some socialized nations have a black market for health care because MDs loathe the government system. For example, a Swedish doctor might provide services for cash to circumvent the bureaucratic mess. Does anyone think that will happen here? If so, I wonder if the black market forces would accomplish what regulation and government interference stifles, namely high-quality, reasonably affordable health care. (This is my first thread ever, so forgive me if i fail to monitor it like an expert). Quoting: SoulWinner YOUR ESTIMATE.... IS CORRECT ON MANY FRONTS.... AMERICANS WILL CIRCUMVENT ALL OBSTACALES... LIKE AMERICANS ALWAYS DO AGAINST UNBELIVABLE ODDS... SURVIVE AND ACELL!!!! HOW??? BY "THE GRACE OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN"!!! WHAT THIS NATION WAS BUILT ON!!!! BY THE GRACE OF GOD.... PEACE AND GRACE AND LOVE TO AMERICAN IN "THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST"!!! I am with you on overcoming and extending the peace, grace, and love of Jesus Christ to everyone, even in other countries...but by definition, a "black market" is illegal, so wouldn't using the black market violate scripture? What you and I call overcoming, the government (IRS in particular) might call breaking the law. THE GRACE OF "THE FATHER IN HEAVEN"... FEEDS THE BIRDS OF THE AIR... THE SAME WITH US... THERE IS A NEED... THE LORD WILL PROVIDE ALL OUR NEEDS WITHING THE LAW!!! THE BLACK MARKET IS AND OPERATES INPLACE OF A MARKET... THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN OVER BY THE EVIL ONE... THEREFORE THE BLACK MARKET IS THE GRACE OF THE FATHER IN HEAVEN!!! PEACE AND GRACE AND LOVE TO YOU IN "THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST"!!! |