HOW IN THE WORLD CAN OBAMA MAKE SOMEONE PAY FOR SICKCARE WHEN THEY ARE UNEMPLOYED?

What do they do to people that don't pay their taxes...

You get penalty and interest added on...pretty soon the come get your stuff..

You are correct ...we should not have to pay for people that abuse their health with known health destroyers..

Obummer's reply:

FUCK YOU...PAY!!!

OK, here's an answer to your question: the law says that if you are unemployed or underemployed, if a health insurance policy costs more than 8% of your income, then you are exempt and do not have to buy health insurance and you will not be fined. And you do not "have to pay Obama $600.-$800.-$1200.00 a year for his bullcrap".

you can turn it around: why do people who don't pay for social security, enjoy the benefits of it?

it's a trade-off. you aren't living in the former communist soviet-union. your liberal capitalism isn't working either. so your country needs to find a way... no way will ever be perfect for everyone.

People who use alternative health doctors should not have to pay, cause insurance won't pay for natural remedies anyway. Natural remedies are the only REAL remedies. All the malodies under this system are all witchcraft and quackery.

No doctor has ever helped me with any ailments I ever had. But when I went into the healthfood store, I finally got help. So I have been woken up to the fact that our whole healthcare system is Satanic and a fraud. When people start taking care of their own health, things will change.

YOUR DOCTOR IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR HEALTH, YOU ARE!!!

Your doctor is so responsible, that when you kick the bucket, he'll call the morgue and wipe his hands of you..that's how responsible he is!!!

And then you wind up living in the street, getting sick, and needing Obamycare!



But you can't have it because you don't have an Obamycare card.

Too bad.

Even though what you said may be/is true, they will STILL make you pay...wait for it.

The largest tax increase in history...soon to be followed by the 2nd largest tax increase in history when they let the "Obama" tax cuts (he signed the extension so they are no longer "Bush's" tax cuts, they're HIS) expire.

Fundamental change, indeed!

You shouldn't have to pay for ANYBODY'S healthcare.
Every individual is responsible for his or her own healthcare
making some one else pay for your healthcare is theft, the way the government does it is extortion.

This way all you sanctimonious idiots will leave me the fuck alone and let me live MY life MY way.

No, the unemployed are exempt from the mandate. Those making less than 133% of the poverty line will be eligible for Medicaid, provided that their state doesn't refuse to implement it.

So if I need an expensive high-tech operation to save my life, I should just die if I can't afford it? Is that what you're saying?

Yes, smokers and the obese are going to be penalized severely. Maybe not at first, but eventually.

Let me ask it this way:

Is it OK for you to hold someone at gunpoint so they will empty their bank account to save your miserable excuse of a life? And by stealing this persons hard earned wages you also steal from that man the chance to make a good life for him and his family.

Is that OK?
is it moral?

And to answer your question: Yes, you have to go sometime.

BUT...if you are the average person, YOU will pay for these slakers. (And dont you welfare folks give me "I tried to find a job" , in the depression my dad shined shoes, picked through trash and sold anything good to feed his family. I held FOUR part time jobs in college.It can be done).With nine kids, I dont remember any of us going to a doctor. We had midwives and Elders within the tribe who could fix anything with a tea or something, even cancer(look up Essiac)My dad was a cabinet maker and never saw a doctor til he was 85. He smoked like a chimney,too. We drank well water and grew potatoes etc in summer.

The rest of us will pay up to 3000 a month or go to jail. Holder put this under the IRS so they dont have to have proof and can assess you all kinds of penalties...or as the demented supreme court agrees, they can TAX you this amount.the big insurance cos. will go out of business or could raise auto/home owners rates to cover expenses. It will cripple or KILL this country which is the end game what Obama and his thugs want.
Dont leave this country like many millionares have already. Stay and fight. VOTE and work for romney or ron paul or something. Send paper work to the BIA showing that you have indian ancestry and find out which tribe you belong to and who your people are. Dont just hang out with "indians" but find tradionals who follow the old way. Means no drugs no alcohol, fyi. We are at war. the chinese and arabs are buying our property and the mexicans are flooding in and cannabilizing all of our services. Thank GOd for canada on our other border.

There are subsidies and grants for people below a certain income level. Unemployed persons would certainly qualify for that.

Would you feel the same way if a member of your family died because they couldn't afford healthcare?

Would you feel the same way if a member of your family died because they couldn't afford healthcare?
[/quote

Actually, the third leading cause of death IS HEALTHCARE. I asked my dad how he lived so long through wwi and the depression and all and he said I stayed away from the Docs.

PS: the op says not enough prisons to hold us all? He forgot all the already waiting prison camps or conservation camps. We'll all be in a Rez soon!

Not too familar with the details of the new health care law, but I do know that a similar policy has been in effect in Massachusetts for like 6 years now
(implemented by Romney) It has actually made health care much more affordable for the average person. No matter what your history, someone my age (31) can get a pretty decent plan for around 400 per month. That’s a lot cheaper than it was before the mandate. Health insurance companies cannot refuse you or charge you more because of your history. Also, for those who are unemployed and/or underemployed, there are plans with companies supplemented by the government. Thus, my husband was able to get a health plan for no money after he lost his job. In those plans, your premium is based on your income, sliding scale. It has actually made things much better here as far as I have observed, and I have an extensive medical history. Survived cancer as a child and have several issues as a result of the radiation they gave me as a baby. Prior to the mandate, it was much more difficult for me to get an affordable plan, and if you are not able to go through an employer based plan, then yo mind as well forget about it.

$400 a month is "affordable" ??

That should be what most of us pay for basic housing per month -- but when you add that much to other mandatory living expenses it really tips things if you're not making much. And think of what you actually get for that. Mostly NOTHING. Most people are just piling money into insurance coffers and getting nothing back. I look at the healthcare I was getting from Kaiser and it sucked. It was more like veterinary care! Herded in and out in minutes with cursory communications. They define a "physical" as weighing you, taking your blood pressure. That is IT. If you want to talk about any symptom or condition at that physical, it is going to cost you more. I was very annoyed when I found this out. And they have NOTHING for menopause. No good information, no treatments for relief. With the relief available for women from bioidentical hormones out there they offer none of that. They are horrible with women's healthcare. I got substandard care. I complained about my arthritis being so severe in one knee that I wanted a cortisone shot. They would not do that for me. So what was I paying for? Many others have similar complaints about "health insurance". When you do have a serious issue that needs coverage, they could at one time decline you. They will still find a way to do that, I have no doubt. You are basically paying $400 a month to be able to get prescriptions filled. That is how I feel about health insurance. I would rather go without and now to find that I will be ordered to is mind-boggling. I am unemployed. I really do not understand what's going on in this country. It is like regular people are under severe attack. They are purposely holding back jobs. I really believe that.

You should receive the care you need and go into debt to pay it off.

If you get truly blessed, some altruistic friends will throw some benefits for you and direct the proceeds to pay your bills.

Which is silly. My grandmother is 94, overweight and has no major health issues.

I would do what I could to MAKE SURE that my family member had the money they needed for the care they needed. For example, I would get other family members to pool resources, I would throw benefits for my family member, I would try to collect donations, I would get another job, I would work with the hospital to get a payment plan, etc. It's up to the individual to pay the bills they owe.

If you can't afford to pay for your electric bill, do you think someone else should pay it for you?

the working class continues to pay for the welfare class. The welfare class uses foodstamps to buy unhealthy junk food and the worker pays for their health costs when the junk foods cause diabetes, etc... The smokers are paying very high taxes on the cigs which is supposed to cover the health costs. I don't see a whole lot of changes. Screw the worker to pay for the welfare class. Not talking about folks who are only on temporary assistance. We buy our own health insurance for a family of five: $20,000 per yr due to an accident (hubby in car wreck--the guy that hit him got 3 tickets). Sucks for us.

Back when I had a decent job I actually put money into a Roth IRA like a responsible adult planning for the future, then I lost my job, eventually had to sell my vehicle and thanks to Obamacare, the private insurance I had for doing odd jobs got to expensive and I had to give it up. My financial advisors won't let me withdraw the IRA funds but the govt can take that. Of course the advisor to Obama responsible for screwing the GM bondholders wants him to nationalize everyone's 401K and IRA into teh social security farm, meaning when you die you have only one heir claiming the rest, Uncle Sam, which gives them another incentive to euthanize you with Obamacare. Yeah they can send thugs after me but they'll only get clothes, I could go hide but what would be the point? I'd rather get online and heckle them

and next will be fast-food eaters, people who consume alcohol, people who walk less than 5 miles per day, people who use salt, people who use cellphones (radiation to the brain), people who don't use sunscreen, people who go 1 mph over the speed limit, people who....

the government needs to stay the fuck out of everyone's personal decisions in life...if you look, every single person does SOMETHING that some bullshit authority or expert claims is unhealthy

You can't have your broken leg bone set in a health food store. They don't do tooth extractions there either. I also found out that health food stores don't offer prescription glasses.

Why is it you people never answer my question?
Is it OK to forcibly take another persons wealth to save your own ass?

You know it is neither ethical nor moral to steal, no matter how you try and rationalize it.

Now I will answer your question.

If after doing all I could do that is what ended up happening then so be it my life is no more important than an others.
As I noted before; you have to go sometime.