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Home birth is going to have to be the answer to this.
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Hey, they tried home birth and they screwed up. Then they called the ambulance to have the baby properly delivered in a hospital. They were trying to save $6,000 by doing it at home, but then the tax payer has to pay the bill. Then they would not have the kid vacinated for Hep B, which is extremely contagious, because if the baby was cut during home delivery and feces went into the baby's blood stream, it would have contracted Hepatitis B, deadly. It's like if you got a deep wound, you need to get a Tetanus shot - or do you not believe in that? If you get bitten by a rabid dog, you wouldn't get one? I hope all your dogs are vaccinated, because if they're not and I get bitten, I'll sue the crap out of you. If you don't believe in the miracles of science, please do not call the hospital when your foolish do-it-yourself voodoo home delivery goes bad - and waste my tax money. They did not keep their baby at the hospital, OK?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1527907



After reading your post, I have to question your intelligence.

#1 No where in the story was there any mention that the parents didn't have insurance and were unable to pay their medical bills. Most people choose home births for reasons other than money.

#2 Hepatitis is not floating through the air, IT'S A SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASE!!!! Please do some reading on diseases before you show your extreme ignorance. Unless the mother was infected, then there is ZERO chance of the baby contracting this disease at birth. Which is why the mother requested that she be tested before her child was given medical treatment with potential side effects.

#3 Home deliveries are statistically safer than hospital deliveries. Partially because high risk patients are screened out. But also because the babies and mothers can't get diseases from the very real sick people in the hospital. It's a fact that women and babies die from diseases picked up in the hospital.

I really hope your not a voter.
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where was the baby brought to? Did somebody ate it?

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Hospitals can be a very dangerous place....

doctors are trained monkeys....

they teach them to prescribe drugs without questioning....

they think that because the FDA approves a drug then it is safe....

thousands of people daily are being left crippled for life by flouroquinilones....

you go in for a simple infection and you end up crippled for life....

and then the doctor denies it was the drug because the FDA approved it....

the FDA is controlled by big pharma...

be careful people.....be very careful with any type of medical intervention....

inform yourself first...

Thread: WARNING! do not take fluoroquinilones!
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What do you suggest for a compound fracture?
Maybe a nice basil and poppy seed ointment with a stick and duck tape?
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What do you suggest for a compound fracture?
Maybe a nice basil and poppy seed ointment with a stick and duck tape?
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If the only person in your area qualified to set a leg also happened to be a witch doctor that offered to poison and bleed you out as an extra, would you still go to him to get your leg set? Of course you would, don't be ignorant. You would just turn down the poison and try to stay awake long enough to make sure he wasn't "draining your bad spirits".

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this is complete and utter bullshit, CPS does not take children away from parents over vaccines, you aren't getting the whole story.
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There's plenty of information about it in a Google search. I'll bet the parents will win a hefty money settlement.



A Williamstown couple has filed a civil lawsuit against Penn State Milton S. Hershey Medical Center seeking unspecified damages for what they describe as a series of errors by the hospital’s staff after the birth of their child last year.
Among the claims by Jodi and Scott Ferris is that a social worker took custody of their child hours after she was born in an ambulance on hospital grounds.
The Ferrises said that after the social worker took custody, they were removed by security and police from the medical center and were forced to spend the night sleeping in their car at a nearby shopping plaza.
Their newborn was returned to the family the next day, they said, following a custody hearing.

[link to www.pennlive.com]
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This was actually from atleast a few months ago - there were threads on here about it, same family.

It is sad and terrible story.

I have a daughter that has vaccine induced autism 13yrs ago it should not be still continuing but not only that it is getting worse.


hf
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The same with our daughter only we found ways to help her. And she has been in counseling since early grade school just to help with all of the behavioral issues. Diet, quiet- peaceful environments, neuro bio-feedback and royal jelly (which she popped like M&Ms help along with Earl Grey tea. The caffeine in the tea helps calm them as their brains are wired completely differently. Vitamin B complex also calms them. When she was little with her numerous daily meltdowns we had to wrap her in a sheet so she wouldn't harm herself or trash her room. No one knows how bad the effects of vaccines are until it's their child who suffers the consequence.
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Home birth is going to have to be the answer to this.
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Hey, they tried home birth and they screwed up. Then they called the ambulance to have the baby properly delivered in a hospital. They were trying to save $6,000 by doing it at home, but then the tax payer has to pay the bill. Then they would not have the kid vacinated for Hep B, which is extremely contagious, because if the baby was cut during home delivery and feces went into the baby's blood stream, it would have contracted Hepatitis B, deadly. It's like if you got a deep wound, you need to get a Tetanus shot - or do you not believe in that? If you get bitten by a rabid dog, you wouldn't get one? I hope all your dogs are vaccinated, because if they're not and I get bitten, I'll sue the crap out of you. If you don't believe in the miracles of science, please do not call the hospital when your foolish do-it-yourself voodoo home delivery goes bad - and waste my tax money. They did not keep their baby at the hospital, OK?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1527907



After reading your post, I have to question your intelligence.

#1 No where in the story was there any mention that the parents didn't have insurance and were unable to pay their medical bills. Most people choose home births for reasons other than money.

#2 Hepatitis is not floating through the air, IT'S A SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASE!!!! Please do some reading on diseases before you show your extreme ignorance. Unless the mother was infected, then there is ZERO chance of the baby contracting this disease at birth. Which is why the mother requested that she be tested before her child was given medical treatment with potential side effects.

#3 Home deliveries are statistically safer than hospital deliveries. Partially because high risk patients are screened out. But also because the babies and mothers can't get diseases from the very real sick people in the hospital. It's a fact that women and babies die from diseases picked up in the hospital.

I really hope your not a voter.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


#2. Not true. Although it is most COMMONLY spread sexually it is in body fluids
Junkies can contaminate others with needles. It is in blood.
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Looks like those mandatory requirements
under ObamaCare are already kicking in!

obama-health-ral

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I am having a great deal of trouble typing this post. I am so upset and outraged over what was done to Jodi Ferris and her baby at the Penn State Hershey Medical Center in Pennsylvania shortly after she gave birth that I am having difficulty staying composed enough to write a coherent story.

If you recall, this is the same area of the state where officials allowed a serial child molester like Jerry Sandusky, former Penn State assistant football coach, to go free for decades and continue to abuse children unfortunate enough to come across his lecherous path while a mother who gives birth in a government hospital has her baby taken away for questioning whether vaccination with Hep B is truly necessary.

Does something seem very very wrong with this picture?

Full story and all details about this incident:
[link to fromthetrenchesworldreport.com]
 Quoting: WeAreOne


I can guarantee you Jodi's leaving relevant facts out of her story. I'm a hospital chaplain and I minister in Labor & Delivery. I'm there for high-risk deliveries and demises and I promise you you're not hearing all of it. My guess is that Jodi and/or baby tested positive for alcohol/drugs or suspicion of drugs or there was something else along those lines that really worried the staff.

We are quick to rush to assume things but we heard nothing from the hospital nor will we. The legally can not comment on any of this.
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Home birth is going to have to be the answer to this.
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Hey, they tried home birth and they screwed up. Then they called the ambulance to have the baby properly delivered in a hospital. They were trying to save $6,000 by doing it at home, but then the tax payer has to pay the bill. Then they would not have the kid vacinated for Hep B, which is extremely contagious, because if the baby was cut during home delivery and feces went into the baby's blood stream, it would have contracted Hepatitis B, deadly. It's like if you got a deep wound, you need to get a Tetanus shot - or do you not believe in that? If you get bitten by a rabid dog, you wouldn't get one? I hope all your dogs are vaccinated, because if they're not and I get bitten, I'll sue the crap out of you. If you don't believe in the miracles of science, please do not call the hospital when your foolish do-it-yourself voodoo home delivery goes bad - and waste my tax money. They did not keep their baby at the hospital, OK?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1527907



After reading your post, I have to question your intelligence.

#1 No where in the story was there any mention that the parents didn't have insurance and were unable to pay their medical bills. Most people choose home births for reasons other than money.

#2 Hepatitis is not floating through the air, IT'S A SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASE!!!! Please do some reading on diseases before you show your extreme ignorance. Unless the mother was infected, then there is ZERO chance of the baby contracting this disease at birth. Which is why the mother requested that she be tested before her child was given medical treatment with potential side effects.

#3 Home deliveries are statistically safer than hospital deliveries. Partially because high risk patients are screened out. But also because the babies and mothers can't get diseases from the very real sick people in the hospital. It's a fact that women and babies die from diseases picked up in the hospital.

I really hope your not a voter.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


#2. Not true. Although it is most COMMONLY spread sexually it is in body fluids
Junkies can contaminate others with needles. It is in blood.
 Quoting: Whitemike761


Nope #2 is true. HEPATITIS IS NOT AN AIR BORN VIRUS!!! If the mother doesn't have it then the child will not get it.
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My guess is that Jodi and/or baby tested positive for alcohol/drugs or suspicion of drugs...
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Whatever, but a vaccine is of no use once the disease is contracted. Try a different alibi for such a useless and risky intervention.
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There is more than one reason to vaccinate babies.

If you are a nurse/"Doctor"/Administrator/Policeman, lackey

in the New World Order, you must do

as you are told, or lose your crappy job.

If that involves giving vaccines to babies.... that is OK...

the job is more important than not harming babies.

These vaccines may carry a "life expectancy" code....

In other words, the babies receiving the "vaccine" today,

may only live to 50 or whatever age The Masters choose.

Another VERY important reason for vaccinating babies, is to

reinforce upon you, The Slaves, that YOU are NOT in charge

of your own life OR that of your child.

The third reason for "vaccinating" babies is to prove to YOU,

The Slave, that The State (Big Brother) owns the children.

 Quoting: I Ban Thee


Can we add number 4?
#4 To prevent the spread of deadly contagious diseases.
 Quoting: Whitemike761


In too many cases vaccines SPREAD disease. Research it and you will find out.
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bsflag Doubt it happened that way,This Hospital has an excellent reputation and a first class Perinatal Services Program.

The Parent's are Mental and there's more to the story.

GLPers are so easy to manipulate!!


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Hey, they tried home birth and they screwed up. Then they called the ambulance to have the baby properly delivered in a hospital. They were trying to save $6,000 by doing it at home, but then the tax payer has to pay the bill. Then they would not have the kid vacinated for Hep B, which is extremely contagious, because if the baby was cut during home delivery and feces went into the baby's blood stream, it would have contracted Hepatitis B, deadly. It's like if you got a deep wound, you need to get a Tetanus shot - or do you not believe in that? If you get bitten by a rabid dog, you wouldn't get one? I hope all your dogs are vaccinated, because if they're not and I get bitten, I'll sue the crap out of you. If you don't believe in the miracles of science, please do not call the hospital when your foolish do-it-yourself voodoo home delivery goes bad - and waste my tax money. They did not keep their baby at the hospital, OK?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1527907



After reading your post, I have to question your intelligence.

#1 No where in the story was there any mention that the parents didn't have insurance and were unable to pay their medical bills. Most people choose home births for reasons other than money.

#2 Hepatitis is not floating through the air, IT'S A SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASE!!!! Please do some reading on diseases before you show your extreme ignorance. Unless the mother was infected, then there is ZERO chance of the baby contracting this disease at birth. Which is why the mother requested that she be tested before her child was given medical treatment with potential side effects.

#3 Home deliveries are statistically safer than hospital deliveries. Partially because high risk patients are screened out. But also because the babies and mothers can't get diseases from the very real sick people in the hospital. It's a fact that women and babies die from diseases picked up in the hospital.

I really hope your not a voter.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


#2. Not true. Although it is most COMMONLY spread sexually it is in body fluids
Junkies can contaminate others with needles. It is in blood.
 Quoting: Whitemike761


Nope #2 is true. HEPATITIS IS NOT AN AIR BORN VIRUS!!! If the mother doesn't have it then the child will not get it.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


I am not claiming it us airborne.
Junkies can pass it with needles.
It is also in the blood.
Sexual transmission is the most common though.
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Can we add number 4?
#4 To prevent the spread of deadly contagious diseases.
 Quoting: Whitemike761


^^This^^

Would you guys prefer the return of smallpox and the like?

I was vaccinated, my Mrs was vaccinated, both my kids were vaccinated and none of us are autistic. Were we just lucky, or what?
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I've worked with the vaccine injured. Most of their parents continued to vaccinate them and you could watch them regress, as well as having their seizures increase, after each vaccine.

If you're lucky, good, enjoy it. You are protected from nasty diseases, good for you. Just don't go shoving it down someone else's throat who might not be as lucky.
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I'm not shoving anything down anybody's throat.

I simply stated a fact, that me, my partner and our children have been vaccinated without side effects. I can even go as far as to say that everybody I know has been vaccinated, and none of them have autism, seizures, etc.
That's probably 70 or 80 people if you include all of my family, and none of them have autism. Not one.

But, if none of them had been vaccinated for anything, how many of them would have come down with diseases that were commonplace before vaccination programmes came about?

I'm not trying to have a go here. If you don't want to be vaccinated for measles, smallpox, tuberculosis, etc, that's up to you. And you should have the right to choose without government forcing it on you.

But it seems to me that the vast, vast majority of vaccinations result in people that are protected against deadly diseases.

It looks like you'd be seriously unlucky to have ill effects, rather than being lucky not to. And to demonise the whole medical profession, and claim that they're all trying to kill our children, whilst completely ignoring any and all of the benefits of vaccines (such as not having thousands of kids die every year from preventable diseases),like some do on here, is dangerous in my opinion.


But what do I know? I'm just one of the sheeple sheep
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Hey, they tried home birth and they screwed up. Then they called the ambulance to have the baby properly delivered in a hospital. They were trying to save $6,000 by doing it at home, but then the tax payer has to pay the bill. Then they would not have the kid vacinated for Hep B, which is extremely contagious, because if the baby was cut during home delivery and feces went into the baby's blood stream, it would have contracted Hepatitis B, deadly. It's like if you got a deep wound, you need to get a Tetanus shot - or do you not believe in that? If you get bitten by a rabid dog, you wouldn't get one? I hope all your dogs are vaccinated, because if they're not and I get bitten, I'll sue the crap out of you. If you don't believe in the miracles of science, please do not call the hospital when your foolish do-it-yourself voodoo home delivery goes bad - and waste my tax money. They did not keep their baby at the hospital, OK?
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After reading your post, I have to question your intelligence.

#1 No where in the story was there any mention that the parents didn't have insurance and were unable to pay their medical bills. Most people choose home births for reasons other than money.

#2 Hepatitis is not floating through the air, IT'S A SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASE!!!! Please do some reading on diseases before you show your extreme ignorance. Unless the mother was infected, then there is ZERO chance of the baby contracting this disease at birth. Which is why the mother requested that she be tested before her child was given medical treatment with potential side effects.

#3 Home deliveries are statistically safer than hospital deliveries. Partially because high risk patients are screened out. But also because the babies and mothers can't get diseases from the very real sick people in the hospital. It's a fact that women and babies die from diseases picked up in the hospital.

I really hope your not a voter.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


#2. Not true. Although it is most COMMONLY spread sexually it is in body fluids
Junkies can contaminate others with needles. It is in blood.
 Quoting: Whitemike761


Nope #2 is true. HEPATITIS IS NOT AN AIR BORN VIRUS!!! If the mother doesn't have it then the child will not get it.
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


I have to question your intelligence. Hepatitis can be contracted from many NON-sexual contacts. Just because it's not an airborne virus doesn't mean it is necessarily spread by sexual contact.
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The Parent's are Mental and there's more to the story.
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Tehre you have it, parents opposing mercury and aluminium compund being injected in their newborn kids are "mental".

Undefsthandf?
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Hepatitis can be contracted from many NON-sexual contacts. Just because it's not an airborne virus doesn't mean it is necessarily spread by sexual contact.
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You are wildly speculating, you can't base an invasive procedure on a healthy kid on pure speculation and fear-mongering.
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So, what you're saying is, you would rather your children get some other disease than risk the "1 in 88" current chance that they may develop autism? I don't really care what research or articles you can point to that show a 'link' between immunizations and autism, if you can PROVE without a doubt that immunizations are the CAUSE of this disease then at least I could understand. Again, if the majority of newborns/children receive the injections you're worried about and then have no side effects, how could you possibly make this claim?

And yes, we all know about immunizations using mercury (thimerosal), but even after all of the studies there isn't any good evidence of it's ability to cause autism.

To the poster who said vitamin D deficiency causes a lot of health issues... it might or might not. Medical doctors and researchers use the prevalence of vitamin D deficiency as a link or 'possible cause' of varying disorders much in the same way vaccines are being labelled as 'autism inducing' by the uninformed/under-informed public.
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THEY ARE EQUATING RATIONALIZING VACCINES TO BEING INSANE AND INCAPABLE OF CARING FOR YOUR CHILD.

WAKE UP.

ILLEGAL
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First of all, I had my daughter vaccinated against everything that they would give her. She had all her rounds of Hep B before she was a year old. I got vaccinated for Hep B at 17 because it was required for college. The only things we don't get are flu vaccines due to the rapid mutation of strains. It doesn't seem as potentially effective as the others.

That being said, most 'autism' behavioral 'problems' are just developmental phases that children naturally have. The parent whose daughter trashed her room? Mine does that occasionally, and guess what? It means she's a 4-year-old. She also has outbursts sometimes. That also means she's a 4-year-old.

People need to stop believing the crap that pseudo-scientists and school administrators keep pushing on us to believe that our children are anything other than their wonderful selves to begin with. It's not the vaccines that are the problem. It's a basic failure of understanding of the development of little psyches into maturity.
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So, what you're saying is, you would rather your children get some other disease than risk the "1 in 88" current chance that they may develop autism? I don't really care what research or articles you can point to that show a 'link' between immunizations and autism, if you can PROVE without a doubt that immunizations are the CAUSE of this disease then at least I could understand. Again, if the majority of newborns/children receive the injections you're worried about and then have no side effects, how could you possibly make this claim?

And yes, we all know about immunizations using mercury (thimerosal), but even after all of the studies there isn't any good evidence of it's ability to cause autism.

To the poster who said vitamin D deficiency causes a lot of health issues... it might or might not. Medical doctors and researchers use the prevalence of vitamin D deficiency as a link or 'possible cause' of varying disorders much in the same way vaccines are being labelled as 'autism inducing' by the uninformed/under-informed public.
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I WAS VACCINATED AS A CHILD AND I DEVELOPED IRREGULAR PATTERNS OF HEALTH, GROWTH AND LEARNING WEEKS AFTER AS A RESULT
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this is complete and utter bullshit, CPS does not take children away from parents over vaccines, you aren't getting the whole story.
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Agree.
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So, what you're saying is, you would rather your children get some other disease than risk the "1 in 88" current chance that they may develop autism? I don't really care what research or articles you can point to that show a 'link' between immunizations and autism, if you can PROVE without a doubt that immunizations are the CAUSE of this disease then at least I could understand. Again, if the majority of newborns/children receive the injections you're worried about and then have no side effects, how could you possibly make this claim?

And yes, we all know about immunizations using mercury (thimerosal), but even after all of the studies there isn't any good evidence of it's ability to cause autism.

To the poster who said vitamin D deficiency causes a lot of health issues... it might or might not. Medical doctors and researchers use the prevalence of vitamin D deficiency as a link or 'possible cause' of varying disorders much in the same way vaccines are being labelled as 'autism inducing' by the uninformed/under-informed public.
 Quoting: BadKarma81


Actually it's quite the opposite... it's the informed parents, people with high school, that most often oppose vaccines.

You are not one of these, for your level of disinformation is pityful.

Start by reding this process for fraud against the CDC and a pro-vaccine investigator int ehir payrole. The CDC purposedly altered the autism data to make it appear liek mercury was not causing autism:

[link to www.bolenreport.com]

Then here's an example of recent research (2011) proving the link vaccines/autism:

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

Do aluminum vaccine adjuvants contribute to the rising prevalence of autism?

Source: 2011 - Neural Dynamics Research Group, Department of Ophthalmology and Visual Sciences, University of British Columbia, Canada.

“…… The application of the Hill’s criteria to these data indicates that the correlation between Aluminium in vaccines and Autism spectrum disorders may be causal. Because children represent a fraction of the population most at risk for complications following exposure to Al, a more rigorous evaluation of Al adjuvant safety seems warranted.”
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First of all, I had my daughter vaccinated against everything that they would give her. She had all her rounds of Hep B before she was a year old. I got vaccinated for Hep B at 17 because it was required for college. The only things we don't get are flu vaccines due to the rapid mutation of strains. It doesn't seem as potentially effective as the others.

clappaThat being said, most 'autism' behavioral 'problems' are just developmental phases that children naturally have. The parent whose daughter trashed her room? Mine does that occasionally, and guess what? It means she's a 4-year-old. She also has outbursts sometimes. That also means she's a 4-year-old.

People need to stop believing the crap that pseudo-scientists and school administrators keep pushing on us to believe that our children are anything other than their wonderful selves to begin with. It's not the vaccines that are the problem. It's a basic failure of understanding of the development of little psyches into maturity.
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So, what you're saying is, you would rather your children get some other disease than risk the "1 in 88" current chance that they may develop autism? I don't really care what research or articles you can point to that show a 'link' between immunizations and autism, if you can PROVE without a doubt that immunizations are the CAUSE of this disease then at least I could understand. Again, if the majority of newborns/children receive the injections you're worried about and then have no side effects, how could you possibly make this claim?

And yes, we all know about immunizations using mercury (thimerosal), but even after all of the studies there isn't any good evidence of it's ability to cause autism.

To the poster who said vitamin D deficiency causes a lot of health issues... it might or might not. Medical doctors and researchers use the prevalence of vitamin D deficiency as a link or 'possible cause' of varying disorders much in the same way vaccines are being labelled as 'autism inducing' by the uninformed/under-informed public.
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I WAS VACCINATED AS A CHILD AND I DEVELOPED IRREGULAR PATTERNS OF HEALTH, GROWTH AND LEARNING WEEKS AFTER AS A RESULT
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Which vaccine, exactly?
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Re: Mother Who Questions Vax at Hospital Has Newborn Taken Away
So, what you're saying is, you would rather your children get some other disease than risk the "1 in 88" current chance that they may develop autism? I don't really care what research or articles you can point to that show a 'link' between immunizations and autism, if you can PROVE without a doubt that immunizations are the CAUSE of this disease then at least I could understand. Again, if the majority of newborns/children receive the injections you're worried about and then have no side effects, how could you possibly make this claim?

And yes, we all know about immunizations using mercury (thimerosal), but even after all of the studies there isn't any good evidence of it's ability to cause autism.

To the poster who said vitamin D deficiency causes a lot of health issues... it might or might not. Medical doctors and researchers use the prevalence of vitamin D deficiency as a link or 'possible cause' of varying disorders much in the same way vaccines are being labelled as 'autism inducing' by the uninformed/under-informed public.
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Actually it's quite the opposite... it's the informed parents, people with high school, that most often oppose vaccines.

You are not one of these, for your level of disinformation is pityful.

Start by reding this process for fraud against the CDC and a pro-vaccine investigator int ehir payrole. The CDC purposedly altered the autism data to make it appear liek mercury was not causing autism:

[link to www.bolenreport.com]

Then here's an example of recent research (2011) proving the link vaccines/autism:

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

Do aluminum vaccine adjuvants contribute to the rising prevalence of autism?

Source: 2011 - Neural Dynamics Research Group, Department of Ophthalmology and Visual Sciences, University of British Columbia, Canada.

“…… The application of the Hill’s criteria to these data indicates that the correlation between Aluminium in vaccines and Autism spectrum disorders may be causal. Because children represent a fraction of the population most at risk for complications following exposure to Al, a more rigorous evaluation of Al adjuvant safety seems warranted.”
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Actually, BadKarma81 is my husband. He is a high-school grad with a lot of scientific interests. I graduated with my BS in Biology in 2003 from Wofford College, a pretty respectable place to attend.

I think you need to step out of your generalization box and see that critical thinkers can make their own choices about which data to trust. That's part of the process.
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wow this story just pissed me off

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wow this story just pissed me off

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Because they told you just enough to piss you off.
Took he bait
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Re: Mother Who Questions Vax at Hospital Has Newborn Taken Away
A HepB shot ISN'T necessary and people should start questioning, instead of allowing without question to put the safety of their child in someone else's hands.

This story is infuriating to me.

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