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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17858859 United States 07/01/2012 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we were in NY and didn't take them - albany med was cool we did do the vitamin k shot but had bed neighbors that didn't - but it was a real pain in the ass how not to?- have lots of money and go to a birthing center. |
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Windmills User ID: 913721 Netherlands 07/01/2012 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The baby gets the nationality according to the place where it's born. So leave for a long holiday a few weeks before delivery... Your kid will have 2 nationalities... yours and the country where it was born. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18922077 United States 07/01/2012 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The nurses tried to convinve me i should inject my 2 hour old baby with 5 vaccinations and i simply told them to save their breath. When you're willing to die for your beliefs everything else becomes a cakewalk. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18417562 Canada 07/01/2012 12:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone questioning the vaccines should be deemed too irresponsible to care for a child. Next thing you know an unvaccimated child catches a disease that has already been cured, thus mutating it, and allowing it to spread once again. Flu shots are one thing, infant vaccinations are another. Dont be an idiot. |
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machobird User ID: 18875238 United States 07/01/2012 01:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone questioning the vaccines should be deemed too irresponsible to care for a child. Next thing you know an unvaccimated child catches a disease that has already been cured, thus mutating it, and allowing it to spread once again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18417562 Flu shots are one thing, infant vaccinations are another. Dont be an idiot. You must be a bip PHARMA shill. Go to hell. |
mopar28m User ID: 14686557 United States 07/03/2012 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone questioning the vaccines should be deemed too irresponsible to care for a child. Next thing you know an unvaccimated child catches a disease that has already been cured, thus mutating it, and allowing it to spread once again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18417562 Flu shots are one thing, infant vaccinations are another. Dont be an idiot. Have it in your birth plan that the baby is to have NO vaccinations, Vit. K shot, eye drops, etc. Don't let the baby out of your sight at any time, even when they go to the nursery for their first check up or if mom needs rest, that is what the father &/or family is for. Depending on the state you live in, you can claim a religious or philosophical exemption. Medical exemptions can be over ridden by another doctor if they think the medical exemption is bogus. vaccinefreehealth blogspot com The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child. facebook.com/graphixyourway |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17689298 United States 07/03/2012 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My husband and I are dealing with infertility but we plan to opt out of vaccines at the hospital if we are ever able to have a baby. I have a narrow birth canal and am not able to give birth naturally (a c-section is required) so having a baby at home with mid-wife is not an option. I have already started doing some research on how to handle this situation without having CPS called on us. I have spoken with a few pediatrician offices in our area who support an alternate vaccine schedule. My husband and I are not anti-vaccine, we just want to do an alternate vaccine schedule. If we were anti-vaccine I am not sure how pediatricians would react to that but the offices I have spoken with do support an alternate vaccine schedule. I plan to find a pediatrician that is on board with me and I'll tell the hospital that I will be taking my child to him/her for vaccines. I also want the pediatrician I pick to be willing to go to bat for me if the hospital calls him/her in regards to this. I was told by all the offices I spoke with that I should come in during my 2nd trimester and interview the pediatrician and we can discuss an alternate vaccine schedule then and how to handle the hospital. I was also told by the office staff that lots of parents are now requesting alternate vaccine schedules so it's not outside the norm at all to do this. |
mopar28m User ID: 14686557 United States 07/03/2012 01:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My husband and I are dealing with infertility but we plan to opt out of vaccines at the hospital if we are ever able to have a baby. I have a narrow birth canal and am not able to give birth naturally (a c-section is required) so having a baby at home with mid-wife is not an option. I have already started doing some research on how to handle this situation without having CPS called on us. I have spoken with a few pediatrician offices in our area who support an alternate vaccine schedule. My husband and I are not anti-vaccine, we just want to do an alternate vaccine schedule. If we were anti-vaccine I am not sure how pediatricians would react to that but the offices I have spoken with do support an alternate vaccine schedule. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17689298 I plan to find a pediatrician that is on board with me and I'll tell the hospital that I will be taking my child to him/her for vaccines. I also want the pediatrician I pick to be willing to go to bat for me if the hospital calls him/her in regards to this. I was told by all the offices I spoke with that I should come in during my 2nd trimester and interview the pediatrician and we can discuss an alternate vaccine schedule then and how to handle the hospital. I was also told by the office staff that lots of parents are now requesting alternate vaccine schedules so it's not outside the norm at all to do this. Here are a couple of websites that should help you with your search- [link to community.babycenter.com] [link to www.cafemom.com] vaccinefreehealth blogspot com The risk far outweighs any benefit as the risk will vary from child to child. facebook.com/graphixyourway |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18591508 United States 07/03/2012 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Educate yourself and simply refuse the vaccinations. THERE IS NO LAW THAT MANDATES VACCINATIONS. i am proof of that. 3 kids born in three different hospitals and not a single shot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18922077 The nurses tried to convinve me i should inject my 2 hour old baby with 5 vaccinations and i simply told them to save their breath. When you're willing to die for your beliefs everything else becomes a cakewalk. This ^ Learn the laws of your state. Medically, personally, or religiously exempt your child, you have the right. Be proactive & you say NO. They cannot take your child, and the parents in the story, are suing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18095171 United States 07/03/2012 01:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone questioning the vaccines should be deemed too irresponsible to care for a child. Next thing you know an unvaccimated child catches a disease that has already been cured, thus mutating it, and allowing it to spread once again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18417562 Flu shots are one thing, infant vaccinations are another. Dont be an idiot. You must be a bip PHARMA shill. Go to hell. yeah, Burn. |
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Hugh G. Rechtion User ID: 4710911 United States 07/03/2012 02:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm just wondering. Cause I know if you just have the baby and tell them right there at the hospital you are putting yourself at risk, at least now in the states. If you plan beforehand they likely cannot take the baby. Does anyone have experience with this? I rarely hear of them using this as an excuse to take a child away. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1508557 Thread: Mother Who Questions Vax at Hospital Has Newborn Taken Away As soon as you put paper to pen and Apply for a "Certificate of Live Birth" that kid is a Beneficiary of a Public Trust. He has the State as a "Trustee". You are the "Grantor" of that "Trust" hence no rights. Google "Cestui Que Vie". Welcome to Roman Civil Law. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18591508 United States 07/03/2012 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone questioning the vaccines should be deemed too irresponsible to care for a child. Next thing you know an unvaccimated child catches a disease that has already been cured, thus mutating it, and allowing it to spread once again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18417562 Flu shots are one thing, infant vaccinations are another. Dont be an idiot. You are easily persuaded. Being educated & informed about vaccines, is very eye-opening. However, we are taught and instructed to comply & not ask questions, in many facets of our society. Meet some victims of vaccine reactions, expand your learning. Open your mind. Not all one is taught, is always the truth. Explore. |
stoidi User ID: 1286381 United States 07/03/2012 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One back turns in parting to turn and turn again. Leaving is never going, its circling round the bend. |
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Hugh G. Rechtion User ID: 4710911 United States 07/03/2012 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you want a Sovereign kid do not Have a kid in the Hospital. By Law the Doctor acts as "Agent of Witness" On a "Birth Certificate" That makes the State a "Trustee" and allows them to be Vaccinated or Confiscated it is all Legal. |
Hugh G. Rechtion User ID: 4710911 United States 07/03/2012 02:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you want a Sovereign kid do not Quoting: Hugh G. Rechtion Have a kid in the Hospital. By Law the Doctor acts as "Agent of Witness" On a "Birth Certificate" That makes the State a "Trustee" and allows them to be Vaccinated or Confiscated it is all Legal. Born into Bondage ring any Bells? For fucks sake, learn how they play the Game! |
ajk User ID: 1114631 United States 07/03/2012 02:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone questioning the vaccines should be deemed too irresponsible to care for a child. Next thing you know an unvaccimated child catches a disease that has already been cured, thus mutating it, and allowing it to spread once again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18417562 Except it WOULDN'T spread supposedly because everyone else is already vaccinnated.....so what's to fear huh? No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds. Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God. If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government "Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn "This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll "If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy." |