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DawaSatso
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West baits Russia aka BRIC blighting
This is about u.s. domination of m.e. trade routes and oh, so many other things:

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"The West doesn’t want to see peace in Syria. Whatever Kofi Annan wants, the Western powers don’t... They want to see more chaos. They want to see regime change and they want to see confrontation on a global scale with Russia.”

Lawrence Freeman, with the Executive Intelligence Review

"The ensuing crisis is Syria is the West’s scenario to provoke a global confrontation against Russia and other sovereign nations
, an American political analyst tells Press TV.


In a Saturday interview, Lawrence Freeman, with the Executive Intelligence Review said, “Whatever Kofi Annan wants, pointed to the peace plan brokered by UN-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan, saying, “The West doesn’t want to see peace in Syria. Whatever Kofi Annan wants, the Western powers don’t... They want to see more chaos. They want to see regime change and they want to see confrontation on a global scale with Russia.”


He argued that the financial cartels in London and Wall Street “do not want independent nation states and therefore this confrontation is really designed to lead to a war with Russia in which they would expect Russia to back down.”

“If they see Russia, China moving in a direction of scientific progress, infrastructure development, space exploration, economic development, that becomes a danger to their existence when their existence is in trouble,” Freeman added.

“Therefore, the situation inside Syria is one in which the people themselves and their aspirations and their desires for a better world are not being represented by the West,” the American political analyst pointed out.

The remarks come as Russia and China have reiterated that any decision on a transition of power in Syria should only be made by the Syrian people.
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Yes, it is about economic dominance in the ME. The NEW SILK ROAD proposal and who gets their version, US or Russia. The New silk road is the key issue that can make or break the BRIC, the US is at war with Russia, economically!
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Yes, it is about economic dominance in the ME. The NEW SILK ROAD proposal and who gets their version, US or Russia. The New silk road is the key issue that can make or break the BRIC, the US is at war with Russia, economically!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18921513


I don't think mutually destructive trade wars are going to work.
Pretty big chunk the west is attempting to bite off.
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What's interesting strategically is this all-important Iran islands ownership factor,
and Obummer's mention here of allowing the "International courts to decide" who owns what.
(this while the u.s. withdrew from int'l court any power over u.s. rogue activities 9 years ago).

[link to www.presstv.com]

Gosh, is it possible Syria is also a handy distraction for the BRICs, Russia in particular while moving in on Iran, ya think?
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Yes, it is about economic dominance in the ME. The NEW SILK ROAD proposal and who gets their version, US or Russia. The New silk road is the key issue that can make or break the BRIC, the US is at war with Russia, economically!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18921513


I don't think mutually destructive trade wars are going to work.
Pretty big chunk the west is attempting to bite off.
 Quoting: DawaSatso


I agree that the West is attempting a feat that will not work well.

I think the trade wars are going to be destructive for the US, as the BRIC nations are wide awake to what the West is trying to accomplish.
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Anybody care about the bigger picture or just the symptoms.
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What's interesting strategically is this all-important Iran islands ownership factor,
and Obummer's mention here of allowing the "International courts to decide" who owns what.
(this while the u.s. withdrew from int'l court any power over u.s. rogue activities 9 years ago).

[link to www.presstv.com]

Gosh, is it possible Syria is also a handy distraction for the BRICs, Russia in particular while u.s. moves in on Iran, ya think?
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What's interesting strategically is this all-important Iran islands ownership factor,
and Obummer's mention here of allowing the "International courts to decide" who owns what.
(this while the u.s. withdrew from int'l court any power over u.s. rogue activities 9 years ago).

[link to www.presstv.com]

Gosh, is it possible Syria is also a handy distraction for the BRICs, Russia in particular while u.s. moves in on Iran, ya think?
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This is about u.s. domination of m.e. trade routes and oh, so many other things:

[link to www.presstv.com]

"The West doesn’t want to see peace in Syria. Whatever Kofi Annan wants, the Western powers don’t... They want to see more chaos. They want to see regime change and they want to see confrontation on a global scale with Russia.”

Lawrence Freeman, with the Executive Intelligence Review

"The ensuing crisis is Syria is the West’s scenario to provoke a global confrontation against Russia and other sovereign nations
, an American political analyst tells Press TV.


In a Saturday interview, Lawrence Freeman, with the Executive Intelligence Review said, “Whatever Kofi Annan wants, pointed to the peace plan brokered by UN-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan, saying, “The West doesn’t want to see peace in Syria. Whatever Kofi Annan wants, the Western powers don’t... They want to see more chaos. They want to see regime change and they want to see confrontation on a global scale with Russia.”


He argued that the financial cartels in London and Wall Street “do not want independent nation states and therefore this confrontation is really designed to lead to a war with Russia in which they would expect Russia to back down.”

“If they see Russia, China moving in a direction of scientific progress, infrastructure development, space exploration, economic development, that becomes a danger to their existence when their existence is in trouble,” Freeman added.

“Therefore, the situation inside Syria is one in which the people themselves and their aspirations and their desires for a better world are not being represented by the West,” the American political analyst pointed out.

The remarks come as Russia and China have reiterated that any decision on a transition of power in Syria should only be made by the Syrian people.
 Quoting: DawaSatso

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Anybody care about the bigger picture or just the symptoms.
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 Quoting: DawaSatso


It is the New Cold War, fought economically for power over resources.
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Re: West baits Russia aka BRIC blighting
Yes, it is about economic dominance in the ME. The NEW SILK ROAD proposal and who gets their version, US or Russia. The New silk road is the key issue that can make or break the BRIC, the US is at war with Russia, economically!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18921513


I don't think mutually destructive trade wars are going to work.
Pretty big chunk the west is attempting to bite off.
 Quoting: DawaSatso


I agree that the West is attempting a feat that will not work well.

I think the trade wars are going to be destructive for the US, as the BRIC nations are wide awake to what the West is trying to accomplish.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18921513


Do you see any options for all aforementioned patsys to neutralize (at least) this situation in Syria without losing everything?
All I can see is the idea of imposing sanctions on the west in a hair of the dog kind of way by a whole bunch of countries attempting to hold on to their cultures and treasure.
It could catch on and be effective.
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07/01/2012 12:56 PM
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Excellent Post. The West is going about this all wrong, Again. The old Imperialist way of relating to the world won't be tolerated and won't work in the 21st century. If we average people know who runs Al Qaeda,Why Libya was invaded,the encirclement of China,the attractiveness of the BRIICS approach, the eminent collapse of he EU,and who really controls America, if we little people know all of this then you KNOW the people at the top ALL AROUND THE WORLD know. The BRIICS have the advantage and there is a way to operate when an opponent has the advantage, violence may feel natural to some but it is the wrong approach.
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John Wayne is dead.
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Anybody care about the bigger picture or just the symptoms.
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 Quoting: DawaSatso


It is the New Cold War, fought economically for power over resources.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18921513


I won't be cold, it will be a proxy war.
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Yes, it is about economic dominance in the ME. The NEW SILK ROAD proposal and who gets their version, US or Russia. The New silk road is the key issue that can make or break the BRIC, the US is at war with Russia, economically!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18921513


I don't think mutually destructive trade wars are going to work.
Pretty big chunk the west is attempting to bite off.
 Quoting: DawaSatso


I agree that the West is attempting a feat that will not work well.

I think the trade wars are going to be destructive for the US, as the BRIC nations are wide awake to what the West is trying to accomplish.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18921513


Do you see any options for all aforementioned patsys to neutralize (at least) this situation in Syria without losing everything?
All I can see is the idea of imposing sanctions on the west in a hair of the dog kind of way by a whole bunch of countries attempting to hold on to their cultures and treasure.
It could catch on and be effective.
 Quoting: DawaSatso


I think that is what Russia is trying to do at the moment, keeping the US at bay, so to speak.

By patsys, are you talking about the US or the people of Syria?

I don't know if any of the nations involved would be able to stand up and hold the US/West accountable as the fires have been stoked for change.

it is definitely interesting to see a new kind of war breaking out, the resource war, although it has been going on for decades, it is really getting intense at this point in time.
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Anybody care about the bigger picture or just the symptoms.
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 Quoting: DawaSatso


It is the New Cold War, fought economically for power over resources.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18921513


I won't be cold, it will be a proxy war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18814541


It already is a proxy war, it really never ended, when you consider the US arming of rebels in the Soviet/Afghan war.

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