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| Valorus Offer Upgrade  User ID: 2208637  United States07/01/2012 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Medic User ID: 1366222 United States07/01/2012 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will be the final act Obama imposes to literally bankrupt the United States. Quoting: Valorus We will pay for illegals. They will have access to our bank accounts. GOVERNMENT RAN AND MONITORED. Those of you who voted for Obama, seriously. Please do not do it again. I'm convinced they will post-pone elections this year when the economy collapses. Obviously the public will be in a frantic, looting, buying up all remaining resources from grocery stores and gas stations. Obama will use this notion to declare martial law. Forget aliens, we're already being invaded. There will be blood. Please start preparing for your family and your own well being. Health Bill Highlights ** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to ALL" NON -U.S." residents, even if they are here "ILLEGALLY". ** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts. ** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN). ** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?) ** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees. ** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age. ** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception. ** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..) ** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order. ** Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress. Yes this is a great day for America and is a BIG F***ING DEAL.. NOT! EXACTLY!!! Obummer will remain de facto president indefinitely. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1238594 United States07/01/2012 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will be the final act Obama imposes to literally bankrupt the United States. Quoting: Valorus We will pay for illegals. They will have access to our bank accounts. GOVERNMENT RAN AND MONITORED. Those of you who voted for Obama, seriously. Please do not do it again. I'm convinced they will post-pone elections this year when the economy collapses. Obviously the public will be in a frantic, looting, buying up all remaining resources from grocery stores and gas stations. Obama will use this notion to declare martial law. Forget aliens, we're already being invaded. There will be blood. Please start preparing for your family and your own well being. Health Bill Highlights ** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to ALL" NON -U.S." residents, even if they are here "ILLEGALLY". ** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts. ** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN). ** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?) ** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees. ** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age. ** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception. ** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..) ** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order. ** Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress. Yes this is a great day for America and is a BIG F***ING DEAL.. NOT! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16609398  United Kingdom07/01/2012 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will be the final act Obama imposes to literally bankrupt the United States. Quoting: Valorus We will pay for illegals. They will have access to our bank accounts. GOVERNMENT RAN AND MONITORED. Those of you who voted for Obama, seriously. Please do not do it again. I'm convinced they will post-pone elections this year when the economy collapses. Obviously the public will be in a frantic, looting, buying up all remaining resources from grocery stores and gas stations. Obama will use this notion to declare martial law. Forget aliens, we're already being invaded. There will be blood. Please start preparing for your family and your own well being. Health Bill Highlights ** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to ALL" NON -U.S." residents, even if they are here "ILLEGALLY". ** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts. ** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN). ** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?) ** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees. ** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age. ** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception. ** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..) ** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order. ** Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress. Yes this is a great day for America and is a BIG F***ING DEAL.. NOT! They're quoting from a scaremongering chain email that's been circulatiing since 2009 and is based on an earlier draft of the law anyway. Here's an example of how it twists language, from Politifact: Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free health care services. Pants on Fire! Section 152 includes a generic nondiscrimination clause, which says insurers may not discriminate with regard to "personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services." It says nothing about "non-US citizens" or immigrants, legal or otherwise. In fact, the legislation specifically states that undocumented aliens will not be eligible for credits to help them buy health insurance, in Section 246 on page 143. [link to www.politifact.com] So, yeah. |
| Valorus (OP) User ID: 2208637 United States07/01/2012 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will be the final act Obama imposes to literally bankrupt the United States. Quoting: Valorus We will pay for illegals. They will have access to our bank accounts. GOVERNMENT RAN AND MONITORED. Those of you who voted for Obama, seriously. Please do not do it again. I'm convinced they will post-pone elections this year when the economy collapses. Obviously the public will be in a frantic, looting, buying up all remaining resources from grocery stores and gas stations. Obama will use this notion to declare martial law. Forget aliens, we're already being invaded. There will be blood. Please start preparing for your family and your own well being. Health Bill Highlights ** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to ALL" NON -U.S." residents, even if they are here "ILLEGALLY". ** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts. ** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN). ** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?) ** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees. ** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age. ** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception. ** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..) ** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order. ** Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress. Yes this is a great day for America and is a BIG F***ING DEAL.. NOT! They're quoting from a scaremongering chain email that's been circulatiing since 2009 and is based on an earlier draft of the law anyway. Here's an example of how it twists language, from Politifact: Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free health care services. Pants on Fire! Section 152 includes a generic nondiscrimination clause, which says insurers may not discriminate with regard to "personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services." It says nothing about "non-US citizens" or immigrants, legal or otherwise. In fact, the legislation specifically states that undocumented aliens will not be eligible for credits to help them buy health insurance, in Section 246 on page 143. [link to www.politifact.com] So, yeah. Sure, based off a shit website. Please explain to me how this will not bankrupt businesses and people who don't make decent money. Since you're so sure of yourself. It states you MUST have healthcare. So, picture my girlfriend who works at a market cleaners and her job does not offer insurance. She's already ONLY making $1000/month while in school. So Obama wants to add another bill to her list? Screw this guy. Last Edited by Skiidzman on 07/01/2012 11:11 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16609398 United Kingdom07/01/2012 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will be the final act Obama imposes to literally bankrupt the United States. Quoting: Valorus We will pay for illegals. They will have access to our bank accounts. GOVERNMENT RAN AND MONITORED. Those of you who voted for Obama, seriously. Please do not do it again. I'm convinced they will post-pone elections this year when the economy collapses. Obviously the public will be in a frantic, looting, buying up all remaining resources from grocery stores and gas stations. Obama will use this notion to declare martial law. Forget aliens, we're already being invaded. There will be blood. Please start preparing for your family and your own well being. Health Bill Highlights ** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to ALL" NON -U.S." residents, even if they are here "ILLEGALLY". ** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts. ** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN). ** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?) ** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees. ** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age. ** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception. ** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..) ** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order. ** Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress. Yes this is a great day for America and is a BIG F***ING DEAL.. NOT! They're quoting from a scaremongering chain email that's been circulatiing since 2009 and is based on an earlier draft of the law anyway. Here's an example of how it twists language, from Politifact: Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free health care services. Pants on Fire! Section 152 includes a generic nondiscrimination clause, which says insurers may not discriminate with regard to "personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services." It says nothing about "non-US citizens" or immigrants, legal or otherwise. In fact, the legislation specifically states that undocumented aliens will not be eligible for credits to help them buy health insurance, in Section 246 on page 143. [link to www.politifact.com] So, yeah. Sure, based off a shit website. Please explain to me how this will not bankrupt businesses and people who don't make decent money. Since you're so sure of yourself. You can say it's based off a shit website all you want. They debunk the email by directly quoting from the bill. Why don't you actually check to see if this shit website has falsified their claims before getting on your high horse? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12201362 United States07/01/2012 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just searched for the term "bank" in the bill itself. These are found under Section 1323, "Community Health Insurance Option", and they're requirements of providers: "... (F) have in place effective procedures to control fraud, abuse, and waste; and G) meet such other requirements as the Secretary may impose. Procedures described under subparagraph (F) shall include the implementation of procedures to use beneficiary identifiers to identify individuals entitled to benefits so that such an individual's social security account number is not used, and shall also include procedures for the use of technology (including front-end, prepayment intelligent data-matching technology similar to that used by hedge funds, investment funds, and banks) to provide real-time data analysis of claims for payment under this title to identify and investigate unusual billing or order practices under this title that could indicate fraud or abuse." |
| Valorus (OP) User ID: 2208637 United States07/01/2012 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will be the final act Obama imposes to literally bankrupt the United States. Quoting: Valorus We will pay for illegals. They will have access to our bank accounts. GOVERNMENT RAN AND MONITORED. Those of you who voted for Obama, seriously. Please do not do it again. I'm convinced they will post-pone elections this year when the economy collapses. Obviously the public will be in a frantic, looting, buying up all remaining resources from grocery stores and gas stations. Obama will use this notion to declare martial law. Forget aliens, we're already being invaded. There will be blood. Please start preparing for your family and your own well being. Health Bill Highlights ** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to ALL" NON -U.S." residents, even if they are here "ILLEGALLY". ** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts. ** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN). ** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?) ** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees. ** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age. ** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception. ** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..) ** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order. ** Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress. Yes this is a great day for America and is a BIG F***ING DEAL.. NOT! They're quoting from a scaremongering chain email that's been circulatiing since 2009 and is based on an earlier draft of the law anyway. Here's an example of how it twists language, from Politifact: Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free health care services. Pants on Fire! Section 152 includes a generic nondiscrimination clause, which says insurers may not discriminate with regard to "personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services." It says nothing about "non-US citizens" or immigrants, legal or otherwise. In fact, the legislation specifically states that undocumented aliens will not be eligible for credits to help them buy health insurance, in Section 246 on page 143. [link to www.politifact.com] So, yeah. Sure, based off a shit website. Please explain to me how this will not bankrupt businesses and people who don't make decent money. Since you're so sure of yourself. You can say it's based off a shit website all you want. They debunk the email by directly quoting from the bill. Why don't you actually check to see if this shit website has falsified their claims before getting on your high horse? Not mad at you brother. Just annoyed at more bills. Last Edited by Skiidzman on 07/01/2012 11:20 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16609398 United Kingdom07/01/2012 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16609398 ... They're quoting from a scaremongering chain email that's been circulatiing since 2009 and is based on an earlier draft of the law anyway. Here's an example of how it twists language, from Politifact: Page 50: All non-US citizens, illegal or not, will be provided with free health care services. Pants on Fire! Section 152 includes a generic nondiscrimination clause, which says insurers may not discriminate with regard to "personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services." It says nothing about "non-US citizens" or immigrants, legal or otherwise. In fact, the legislation specifically states that undocumented aliens will not be eligible for credits to help them buy health insurance, in Section 246 on page 143. [link to www.politifact.com] So, yeah. Sure, based off a shit website. Please explain to me how this will not bankrupt businesses and people who don't make decent money. Since you're so sure of yourself. You can say it's based off a shit website all you want. They debunk the email by directly quoting from the bill. Why don't you actually check to see if this shit website has falsified their claims before getting on your high horse? Not mad at you brother. Just annoyed at more bills. What you may be saying may or not be correct, we don't really know yet as its new. But fact is: This is gonna cost more of our precious money that we already don't have enough of. It's not new, it's been around for 3 years which is plenty of time to read 1000 pages of widely typed and margined bill. |
| Valorus (OP) User ID: 2208637 United States07/01/2012 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Valorus Sure, based off a shit website. Please explain to me how this will not bankrupt businesses and people who don't make decent money. Since you're so sure of yourself. You can say it's based off a shit website all you want. They debunk the email by directly quoting from the bill. Why don't you actually check to see if this shit website has falsified their claims before getting on your high horse? Not mad at you brother. Just annoyed at more bills. What you may be saying may or not be correct, we don't really know yet as its new. But fact is: This is gonna cost more of our precious money that we already don't have enough of. It's not new, it's been around for 3 years which is plenty of time to read 1000 pages of widely typed and margined bill. What don't you fools get about this? We are being forced. They declared it constitutional for the government to FORCE us to buy GOVERNMENT healthcare. Ring a bell? ANYONE? Wonder what's next. |
| Medic User ID: 1366222 United States07/01/2012 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16609398 You can say it's based off a shit website all you want. They debunk the email by directly quoting from the bill. Why don't you actually check to see if this shit website has falsified their claims before getting on your high horse? Not mad at you brother. Just annoyed at more bills. What you may be saying may or not be correct, we don't really know yet as its new. But fact is: This is gonna cost more of our precious money that we already don't have enough of. It's not new, it's been around for 3 years which is plenty of time to read 1000 pages of widely typed and margined bill. What don't you fools get about this? We are being forced. They declared it constitutional for the government to FORCE us to buy GOVERNMENT healthcare. Ring a bell? ANYONE? Wonder what's next. Gun confiscation, report to your hometown and be registered. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18939659 United States07/01/2012 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | really, where they comming from china? Thats the country sending the largest amount of immigrants currently. mexico is undergoing a bit of cleansing in case you havent heard. After todays election, I assume it will get worse. Maybe watch some china news, them fuckers arent scared they tell you the truth, you a fucking dumbass and they coming to take whats left while you think your affirmative action saves you, you are just the next in line to be replaced. Guess what we going to give them all free citizenship for shooting your asses in the street when you finally wake up and see whats happening. |
