Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! | |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 870568 United States 07/02/2012 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! so should be legal for Iran to close the space belonging to his sovereign soil......not? Quoting: Cocorito90 To traverse the Strait, ships pass through the territorial waters of Iran and Oman under the transit passage provisions of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea. [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to en.wikipedia.org] [link to www.un.org] Although not all countries have ratified the convention,most countries, including the U.S., accept these customary navigation rules as codified in the Convention. [link to www.state.gov] [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 870568 United States 07/02/2012 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! Check out these new photos from the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower and Carrier Strike Group 8: [link to wtkr.com] Steaming in the Med at full speed to the Mid East |
Lime Flavoured Redux User ID: 18744602 United Kingdom 07/02/2012 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Avogadro User ID: 1508560 United States 07/02/2012 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! I'm sorry, remind me: what right does the U.S. have to 'curb' anyone nation's use of weapons? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18967804 Especially after what they did to all those people in Hiroshima! Hypocrites! Pardon me...but I am quite certain that this issue involves numerous nations aside from the USA. With regards to your remarks related to Hiroshima...the USA was attacked by Japan in a most cowardous mannor which brought our Nation into WW2. If memory serves, and we all know it does, that ended WW2. The USA has its faults as does every other nation. I suppose when it comes to military you simply do not want to mess with the good'ol US of A! |
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Sea-Dog User ID: 673980 United States 07/02/2012 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! Check out these new photos from the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower and Carrier Strike Group 8: Quoting: DoorBert [link to wtkr.com] Steaming in the Med at full speed to the Mid East You know know nothing of US Navy ship movements if they were moving at "full speed" they would have been there by now. it takes 10 days to cross the Atlantic. Trust me, I have donr it 12 times on an aircraft carrier. Sea-Dog |
In-Situ User ID: 1332385 United States 07/02/2012 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! 1433 GMT: Sanctions Watch. A member of Parliament's National Security Committee has said that 100 of the 290 MPs of the Majli have called for an urgent bill, authorising closure of the Straits of Hormuz to any ship of a country sanctioning Tehran. Quoting: DoorBert [link to www.enduringamerica.com] Not sure how their gov. works, but that's not a majority. Do they take a vote and go by majority, or does the grand pooba simply give the order? In-Situ |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 857877 United States 07/02/2012 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! Carrier Strike Group 8 last week in the Atlantic [link to instagram.com] [link to www.navy.mil] [link to www.facebook.com] [link to www.ccsg8.navy.mil] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 981215 United Kingdom 07/02/2012 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! WTF there are only 6 tankers now in strait of hormuz, yesterday it was full of ship, but also few hours ago it was fill!! [link to www.marinetraffic.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18976245 No only 2 or 3 tankers... it's very very very strange. [link to www.marinetraffic.com] now* Nothing in Red Sea or Gulf of Oman either, how good is this site? |
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Saddletramp User ID: 87490 United States 07/02/2012 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! You know door, these posts have relevance, but do you have to put "IRAN CLOSING HORMUZ" every single time??? Quoting: Saddletramp They haven't closed anything yet... I didn't say closed, I said closing. They are in the process. If you ready the posts, you can see the process is underway in Iran. I think it is a fair statement. Fair enough, Semantics, it's just that you've been using that in your headlines for the last three days or so...and even if the parliment votes to close, it will take an order by the Mullah's to complete the process, or they could do it without parliment...it's still just a guessing game... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 857877 United States 07/02/2012 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! USS Eisenhower and Carrier Strike Group 8 in the 6th Fleet Area of Responsibility [link to www.facebook.com] Last Edited by DoorBert on 07/02/2012 11:01 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1201183 United Kingdom 07/02/2012 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! Doorbert say the full sentence. wipe them off the face of the earth, IF THEY ATTACK IRAN Exactly what I was thinking. Leaving that part of the sentence out totally changes everything Doorbert is just copying the headline from the website, that is not an error on his part so get off his back FFS, he does a good job. |
Sea-Dog User ID: 673980 United States 07/02/2012 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! USS Eisenhower and Carrier Strike Group 8 in the 6th Fleet Area of Responsibility Quoting: DoorBert [link to www.facebook.com] So what? Its on its way to relieve the Lincoln Sea-Dog |
redzed User ID: 3724229 United Kingdom 07/02/2012 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! WTF there are only 6 tankers now in strait of hormuz, yesterday it was full of ship, but also few hours ago it was fill!! [link to www.marinetraffic.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18976245 No only 2 or 3 tankers... it's very very very strange. [link to www.marinetraffic.com] now* Nothing in Red Sea or Gulf of Oman either, how good is this site? Looks like they only give info on shipping movements close to land/ports. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14327589 Netherlands 07/02/2012 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! I'm sorry, remind me: what right does the U.S. have to 'curb' anyone nation's use of weapons? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18967804 Especially after what they did to all those people in Hiroshima! Hypocrites! Pardon me...but I am quite certain that this issue involves numerous nations aside from the USA. With regards to your remarks related to Hiroshima...the USA was attacked by Japan in a most cowardous mannor which brought our Nation into WW2. If memory serves, and we all know it does, that ended WW2. The USA has its faults as does every other nation. I suppose when it comes to military you simply do not want to mess with the good'ol US of A! Your government back then knew about Pearl Harbour that's treason. Japan was almost ready to sign it's surrender, your government knew that, but the bomb had to be dropped because it was not yet tested on humans. And about messing with your military, good'ol US of A forgot about that when israel attacked the USS Liberty. Your post is: |
godzilla85 User ID: 1077295 United States 07/02/2012 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! Doorbert say the full sentence. wipe them off the face of the earth, IF THEY ATTACK IRAN Exactly what I was thinking. Leaving that part of the sentence out totally changes everything Doorbert is just copying the headline from the website, that is not an error on his part so get off his back FFS, he does a good job. they don't like the reading why even come into the thread? they are just bitching and moaning to just do it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1201183 United Kingdom 07/02/2012 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! The real question is HOW MANY TANKERS is this going to effect if its ratified by the Mullahs? The other thing to remember is Iran only have to stop one ship and the entire straights will grind to a halt, ships will not get insurance. |
IMAX User ID: 17875035 Canada 07/02/2012 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! You know door, these posts have relevance, but do you have to put "IRAN CLOSING HORMUZ" every single time??? Quoting: Saddletramp They haven't closed anything yet... I didn't say closed, I said closing. They are in the process. If you ready the posts, you can see the process is underway in Iran. I think it is a fair statement. Agreed. I don't think they will actually go as far as fully closing it, because that would be suicide. And what makes you believe these people won’t commit suicide? Middle Eastern people are notorious for strapping bombs to their bodies and blowing themselves up. Don’t see many Americans doing that. Rule number 1, choose your enemies well…..you’ve been warned! name me one incident of an Iranian suicide bomber that strapped bomb to himself to kill innocent lives like the palestinians do in Israel? however, during battles it is a different story. look, what do you call an American Marine who rushes a machine gun nest in WW2, throws a grenade in it and gets shot, and knows his going to get shot. Do you call him a suicide bomber? No he is a soldier, it's a tactic. What we saw in the Iran Iraq war, the soldiers were using such tactics against military forces. There is a heroic legend in the Iranian armed forces named Hussein who strapped bunch of grenades to himself, ducked under an Iraqi tank that was getting close to their base and blew it up whom he end up saving 100s of lives of the Iranian soldiers in the trenches. Imagine if there was no country Stop the Sabre Rattlings and Wars |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1767571 United Kingdom 07/02/2012 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! "This bill has been developed as an answer to the European Union's oil sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran." Agha-Mohammadi said that 100 of Tehran's 290 members of parliament had signed the bill as of Sunday. [link to www.foxbusiness.com] |
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IMAX User ID: 17875035 Canada 07/02/2012 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! I'm sorry, remind me: what right does the U.S. have to 'curb' anyone nation's use of weapons? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18967804 Especially after what they did to all those people in Hiroshima! Hypocrites! Pardon me...but I am quite certain that this issue involves numerous nations aside from the USA. With regards to your remarks related to Hiroshima...the USA was attacked by Japan in a most cowardous mannor which brought our Nation into WW2. If memory serves, and we all know it does, that ended WW2. The USA has its faults as does every other nation. I suppose when it comes to military you simply do not want to mess with the good'ol US of A! if my memory serves, the people who were working on the Manhattan project including Einstein himself, were told that they would test the bomb on an Island with no civilians involved to make the Japanese surrender. But they lied and used it on innocent unarmed Japanese civilians. and Of course the Japanese didn't surrender because of what the Americans did to Hiroshima, until the second hit on Nagasaki. Now imagine how the Japanese would have reacted if the Americans only showed the Japanese what the new Bomb was capable of doing harm to their people and villages if it was to be dropped on them, by only dropping it on a deserted Island like they told they would? Besides, America had it coming because they blockaded the Japanese with an oil embargo which is an act of war itself. Your country wants to go to war with Iran for them trying to do do the same thing what your country did to the Japanese by closing the the straight of Hormuz and blockading America from oil exports. Hypocrite much? Your country is sanctioning Iran, and they will sanction you back. It's that simple. If you attack them, they will attack you back. Comprende? Trust me on this, your country is at fault of many lives of both Americans and Japanese and soon to be Iranians. Last Edited by IMAX on 07/02/2012 12:07 PM Imagine if there was no country Stop the Sabre Rattlings and Wars |
Philligan in rainbows User ID: 2530194 United States 07/02/2012 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! actually an event this big WILL NOT be reported by the MSM until it is happening, so you can bet your ass you will hear it here first. It probably wont happen but Doorbert is simply relaying the info he finds posted on the wonderful world wide web. Pray for Us Sinners Now and at the Hour of our Death |
godzilla85 User ID: 1077295 United States 07/02/2012 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! actually an event this big WILL NOT be reported by the MSM until it is happening, so you can bet your ass you will hear it here first. It probably wont happen but Doorbert is simply relaying the info he finds posted on the wonderful world wide web. which many of us appreciate very much,unforunately there are some in here that are just so blatantly stupid they can't figure that out. |
IMAX User ID: 17875035 Canada 07/02/2012 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! actually an event this big WILL NOT be reported by the MSM until it is happening, so you can bet your ass you will hear it here first. It probably wont happen but Doorbert is simply relaying the info he finds posted on the wonderful world wide web. which many of us appreciate very much,unforunately there are some in here that are just so blatantly stupid they can't figure that out. Imagine if there was no country Stop the Sabre Rattlings and Wars |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18976245 Italy 07/02/2012 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! Now also on PressTV website: [link to www.presstv.ir] |
DoorBert (OP) User ID: 870568 United States 07/02/2012 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! Israel PM: Iran continues to enrich uranium despite talks "Iran is showing contempt for the whole world, and plans to enrich beyond 20%," Netanyahu tells Knesset. [link to www.jpost.com] |
DawaSatso User ID: 18087259 United States 07/02/2012 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Iran Closing Hormuz, Simulating Attack on US Bases & Israel, & Prepping to Down US Passenger Planes! Now also on PressTV website: [link to www.presstv.ir] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18976245 "The Majlis Committee on National Security and Foreign Policy has drawn up a plan which puts emphasis on blocking the passage of tankers carrying oil through the Strait of Hormuz to countries that imposed (unfair) sanctions on Iran." This is a beginning of the "worm turns" sanctions against sanctioners. (that is, if we manage to live through this) Not only that, Iran has the presence of mind to trade with Turkey. Very wise. |