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ObamaCare spin ~ Pelosi: it's "a penalty that comes UNDER the tax code" for the 1 percent of free loaders

 
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ObamaCare spin ~ Pelosi: it's "a penalty that comes UNDER the tax code" for the 1 percent of free loaders



On ObamaCare - "It's not a tax. It's a penalty."

"It's a penalty that comes under the tax code for the one
percent of the population who might decide they want to be
free riders
,"
Pelosi said.

"What we're saying is those that take responsibility get the
benefits, those that decide to be free riders get the penalty,"

Pelosi added.

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It's not a Tax ...

But it is ...

But it's kinda not ...

But it kinda is ...


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Re: ObamaCare spin ~ Pelosi: it's "a penalty that comes UNDER the tax code" for the 1 percent of free loaders
One child mandate, is not a One-child Policy.


It's not a One-Child Policy...

But it is ...

But it's kinda not ...

But it kinda is ...
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Reading Justice Roberts' narrative from the ObamaCare ruling,
he says that "the Act provides that the penalty will be
paid to the Internal Revenue Service with an individual’s taxes,
and 'shall be assessed and collected in the same manner' as
tax penalties
, such as the penalty for claiming too large an
income tax refund."



So yeah, it's a TAX ... especially when you consider there's
21 NEW taxes on everything from condoms to tampons.

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Re: ObamaCare spin ~ Pelosi: it's "a penalty that comes UNDER the tax code" for the 1 percent of free loaders
Read my lips, No New Taxes
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Re: ObamaCare spin ~ Pelosi: it's "a penalty that comes UNDER the tax code" for the 1 percent of free loaders
You have the potential to make millions of dollars, just like you have the potential to need medical care....

You should pay your income tax on that million dollars now... according to our government
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Read my lips, No New Taxes

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When the Chief Justice writes the opinion, he can
strike down or leave standing a lower court's ruling.

Therefore, THIS settles the argument (from the SCOTUS ruling):

"A majority of the Fourth Circuit panel reasoned that the
individual mandate’s penalty is a tax
within the meaning of
the Anti-Injunction Act, because it is a financial assessment
collected by the IRS through the normal means of taxation."



BAM! It IS a Tax, and therefore CAN be UN-DONE by the Senate
next year by a simple 51 vote majority using the Reconciliation process!


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What part of "I refuse to participate in the allopathic medical system under any circumstances" don't they understand?

I refuse to use the system, and refuse to pay for it - especially through insurance.
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What part of "I refuse to participate in the allopathic medical system under any circumstances" don't they understand?

I refuse to use the system, and refuse to pay for it - especially through insurance.

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Obama's long-term goal is to KILL private insurance.


Obama in 2007:

"But I don't think we're gonna be able to eliminate
employer coverage immediately.
There's going to be
potentially some transition process. I can envision
a decade out or 15 years out or 20 years out."


obama-health-ral

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Re: ObamaCare spin ~ Pelosi: it's "a penalty that comes UNDER the tax code" for the 1 percent of free loaders
As usual, she is wrong again. Supreme Court says it is only legal as a tax not as a penalty under the Commerce Clause of the Constitution.

51 votes does in fact get rid of it because it was passed as a reconcilliation process.

Of course, the repeal will only take place if everyone who opposes the health care bill and its 21 taxes plus this tax refuses to vote for any Democrat, anywhere, in any election unless they publically state they will vote to repeal and replace this invasive and controlling law.

Put their feet to the fire. If they refuse to answer yes or no to the question "Will you vote to repeal the Health Care Law?", tell him or her that you will be voting for someone else.
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just get Health Insurance

you freeloaders

jeez
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What part of "I refuse to participate in the allopathic medical system under any circumstances" don't they understand?

I refuse to use the system, and refuse to pay for it - especially through insurance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18866945


I felt the same way until I needed a high-tech operation to save my life. That caused be to go bankrupt. We really need a single-payer system because that shouldn't happen in the richest nation in the world.
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As usual, she is wrong again. Supreme Court says it is only
legal as a tax not as a penalty under the Commerce Clause of
the Constitution.

51 votes does in fact get rid of it because it was passed as a
reconcilliation process.

Of course, the repeal will only take place if everyone who
opposes the health care bill and its 21 taxes plus this tax
refuses to vote for any Democrat, anywhere, in any election
unless they publically state they will vote to repeal and
replace this invasive and controlling law.

Put their feet to the fire. If they refuse to answer yes or
no to the question "Will you vote to repeal the Health Care
Law?",
tell him or her that you will be voting for someone
else.


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 Quoting: anonanon 4148733
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/\ THIS /\


But more specifically, because it was DEEMED a Tax, it can be
changed via the Reconciliation process

Agreed -- at every fucking town hall meeting this fall, that
must be a question asked of EVERY US Senator!


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