ObamaCare spin ~ Pelosi: it's "a penalty that comes UNDER the tax code" for the 1 percent of free loaders | |
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Borat Sagdiyev (OP) User ID: 18344634 United States 07/02/2012 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ObamaCare spin ~ Pelosi: it's "a penalty that comes UNDER the tax code" for the 1 percent of free loaders Reading Justice Roberts' narrative from the ObamaCare ruling, he says that "the Act provides that the penalty will be paid to the Internal Revenue Service with an individual’s taxes, and 'shall be assessed and collected in the same manner' as tax penalties, such as the penalty for claiming too large an income tax refund." So yeah, it's a TAX ... especially when you consider there's 21 NEW taxes on everything from condoms to tampons. . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1160946 United States 07/02/2012 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ObamaCare spin ~ Pelosi: it's "a penalty that comes UNDER the tax code" for the 1 percent of free loaders You have the potential to make millions of dollars, just like you have the potential to need medical care.... You should pay your income tax on that million dollars now... according to our government |
Borat Sagdiyev (OP) User ID: 18344634 United States 07/02/2012 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ObamaCare spin ~ Pelosi: it's "a penalty that comes UNDER the tax code" for the 1 percent of free loaders When the Chief Justice writes the opinion, he can strike down or leave standing a lower court's ruling. Therefore, THIS settles the argument (from the SCOTUS ruling): "A majority of the Fourth Circuit panel reasoned that the individual mandate’s penalty is a tax within the meaning of the Anti-Injunction Act, because it is a financial assessment collected by the IRS through the normal means of taxation." BAM! It IS a Tax, and therefore CAN be UN-DONE by the Senate next year by a simple 51 vote majority using the Reconciliation process! . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18866945 United States 07/02/2012 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ObamaCare spin ~ Pelosi: it's "a penalty that comes UNDER the tax code" for the 1 percent of free loaders What part of "I refuse to participate in the allopathic medical system under any circumstances" don't they understand? I refuse to use the system, and refuse to pay for it - especially through insurance. |
Borat Sagdiyev (OP) User ID: 18344634 United States 07/02/2012 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ObamaCare spin ~ Pelosi: it's "a penalty that comes UNDER the tax code" for the 1 percent of free loaders . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18866945 What part of "I refuse to participate in the allopathic medical system under any circumstances" don't they understand? I refuse to use the system, and refuse to pay for it - especially through insurance. . Obama's long-term goal is to KILL private insurance. Obama in 2007: "But I don't think we're gonna be able to eliminate employer coverage immediately. There's going to be potentially some transition process. I can envision a decade out or 15 years out or 20 years out." . |
anonanon User ID: 4148733 United States 07/02/2012 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ObamaCare spin ~ Pelosi: it's "a penalty that comes UNDER the tax code" for the 1 percent of free loaders 51 votes does in fact get rid of it because it was passed as a reconcilliation process. Of course, the repeal will only take place if everyone who opposes the health care bill and its 21 taxes plus this tax refuses to vote for any Democrat, anywhere, in any election unless they publically state they will vote to repeal and replace this invasive and controlling law. Put their feet to the fire. If they refuse to answer yes or no to the question "Will you vote to repeal the Health Care Law?", tell him or her that you will be voting for someone else. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17152779 United States 07/02/2012 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ObamaCare spin ~ Pelosi: it's "a penalty that comes UNDER the tax code" for the 1 percent of free loaders What part of "I refuse to participate in the allopathic medical system under any circumstances" don't they understand? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18866945 I refuse to use the system, and refuse to pay for it - especially through insurance. I felt the same way until I needed a high-tech operation to save my life. That caused be to go bankrupt. We really need a single-payer system because that shouldn't happen in the richest nation in the world. |
Borat Sagdiyev (OP) User ID: 18344634 United States 07/02/2012 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ObamaCare spin ~ Pelosi: it's "a penalty that comes UNDER the tax code" for the 1 percent of free loaders . Quoting: anonanon 4148733 As usual, she is wrong again. Supreme Court says it is only legal as a tax not as a penalty under the Commerce Clause of the Constitution. 51 votes does in fact get rid of it because it was passed as a reconcilliation process. Of course, the repeal will only take place if everyone who opposes the health care bill and its 21 taxes plus this tax refuses to vote for any Democrat, anywhere, in any election unless they publically state they will vote to repeal and replace this invasive and controlling law. Put their feet to the fire. If they refuse to answer yes or no to the question "Will you vote to repeal the Health Care Law?", tell him or her that you will be voting for someone else. . /\ THIS /\ But more specifically, because it was DEEMED a Tax, it can be changed via the Reconciliation process Agreed -- at every fucking town hall meeting this fall, that must be a question asked of EVERY US Senator! . |