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HR 4348 PASSES SENATE - OWE IRS $50,000? YOU WILL LOSE YOUR PASSPORT!!!

 
AdHocBOHICA

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07/02/2012 08:44 PM
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crazy

and here I thought our right to travel freely was guaranteed

it's unreal how far these fucks have gone to destroy our country & enslave its citizens
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We are slaves remember. We think we our free but are not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19011907


Because the "HERD" equates slavery to physical chains. A slave who believes he/she is free is easily managed without the knowledge they are slaves.
“Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca

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I Stole this from another member.... ;)
AdHocBOHICA

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07/02/2012 08:47 PM
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Then the novel approach would be too PAY YOUR F'IN TAXES ya damn DEADBEATS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19006770


Inflation hits....soda can will cost more that 50k.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19004191


Yep......an empty can at that.
“Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca

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Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2012 08:48 PM
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get the heck out of there

move somewhere else and get a whole NEW passport

you can buy them in certain countries (and apparently here--ask Kim Dotcom)

it only takes living here for 5 years to become a citizen and get a new passport

if you have skills, immigration to NZ is easy

lots of money makes it even easier
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 664728


Icelandic passport is the only one worth having. NZ is just another nanny prison. The queen uses it for a maxipad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19004342


for a small country we have more rights than you do in the old u.s.a .

millions and millions of people in the usa and you are allowing your govertment to take away your freedom??

now what was that about nz been an (nanny prison)???
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07/02/2012 09:08 PM
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You can DRIVE from the US into Mexico without showing your passport to US authorities. You only need to stop and show your passport when returning into the US.

Airlines make you show your passport on exit.
The Aluminated One
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Who in the fuck is actually sitting around writing these 650 page laws like this and the Patriot Act?It must be a bunch of communist lawyers because OBAMA and CONGRESS are too fucking stupid to come up with this shit on their own.........Time to start killing lawyers before they start killing US..........
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07/02/2012 09:12 PM
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The should do the same for student loans.
 Quoting: THEVOICE


Must be an IRS agent

skull_fingskull_fingskull_fing
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Including the foreigners that come to American colleges, and dont pay their loans back when they leave.They all need to be detained and put in fema camps. They can work it off alittle at a time.
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2012 09:12 PM
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Federal employees owe $1.03 billion in unpaid taxes

Congressional staffers owed about $10.6 million in unpaid taxes in 2010, a slight increase from the previous year and a growing slice of the roughly $1 billion owed by federal and postal workers nationwide.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
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07/02/2012 09:14 PM
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also no more government handouts to foreigners for school. they should pay those back as well.
silvervega
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07/02/2012 09:23 PM
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this is where I say Hooray for living on the edge! My household income is less then 50K and I love my life, Yay for being frugal!
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07/02/2012 09:34 PM
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07/02/2012 09:37 PM
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I am free.
And no one took anything from me.
And the bastard that does, will die!


"They" only take what YOU give.

Their "paper work" is to convince the cartel(cops) that they have a 'legitimate' reason to shoot you.

"Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them."
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07/02/2012 09:39 PM
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I wonder if student loans can be considered IRS debt? I know the IRS can take your tax returns if you are delinquent.

I know several people with large 5 figure and even six figure student loan debt who hold advanced degrees. They are having a hard time finding jobs that they aren't over qualified for. Some of them have mentioned leaving the US and ditching their loans.

Every country in decline experiences "brain drain". People with advanced degrees are usually let into almost any country with the red carpet rolled out for them. They get put ahead of other applicants and are often guaranteed citizenship.

If the US starts going down too fast expect to see an exodus of Ph.Ds and Masters holders. Many of these people have large student debt.

I wonder if this factored into the government law?
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07/02/2012 09:40 PM
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Who in the fuck is actually sitting around writing these 650 page laws like this and the Patriot Act?It must be a bunch of communist lawyers because OBAMA and CONGRESS are too fucking stupid to come up with this shit on their own.........Time to start killing lawyers before they start killing US..........
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18773451


The same people who put all those occult symbols on the dollar bills.
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2012 09:43 PM
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Then the novel approach would be too PAY YOUR F'IN TAXES ya damn DEADBEATS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19006770


Wow! Guess the significance of this news really just flew by this dude's head. He didn't see it coming, pass or leave. Sad, sad, sad.
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2012 09:52 PM
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Then the novel approach would be too PAY YOUR F'IN TAXES ya damn DEADBEATS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19006770


And when you are falsely accused of owing the IRS I will not be advocating justice for you loser. Land of the Free my ass.
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2012 10:08 PM
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I don't think this provision was in final version that came out of committee.
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07/02/2012 10:17 PM
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You can DRIVE from the US into Mexico without showing your passport to US authorities. You only need to stop and show your passport when returning into the US.

Airlines make you show your passport on exit.
 Quoting: Floobarb the Argnorf


And you don't think that policy will change on Jan 1, 2013?
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07/02/2012 10:18 PM
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I wonder if student loans can be considered IRS debt? I know the IRS can take your tax returns if you are delinquent.

I know several people with large 5 figure and even six figure student loan debt who hold advanced degrees. They are having a hard time finding jobs that they aren't over qualified for. Some of them have mentioned leaving the US and ditching their loans.

Every country in decline experiences "brain drain". People with advanced degrees are usually let into almost any country with the red carpet rolled out for them. They get put ahead of other applicants and are often guaranteed citizenship.

If the US starts going down too fast expect to see an exodus of Ph.Ds and Masters holders. Many of these people have large student debt.

I wonder if this factored into the government law?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14823865


Yes, that is the plan to keep the worker bees from leaving.
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2012 10:19 PM
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I don't think this provision was in final version that came out of committee.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66527


Did you read the link? The amendment is there attached to this bill.
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2012 10:20 PM
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The should do the same for student loans.
 Quoting: THEVOICE


Must be an IRS agent

skull_fingskull_fingskull_fing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13363335


Including the foreigners that come to American colleges, and dont pay their loans back when they leave.They all need to be detained and put in fema camps. They can work it off alittle at a time.
 Quoting: THEVOICE


For certain student loans will be included later to keep all the talent from leaving.
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2012 10:25 PM
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Remember Ron Paul saying (in reference to a Border Fence) that he was more concerned about the Government using it to keep us in?
GodFrequency

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07/02/2012 10:30 PM
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Federal employees owe $1.03 billion in unpaid taxes

Congressional staffers owed about $10.6 million in unpaid taxes in 2010, a slight increase from the previous year and a growing slice of the roughly $1 billion owed by federal and postal workers nationwide.

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
 Quoting: CrissCross


Let's not forget all the corporations like General electric who pay no taxes

Let's also look at who receives the money from our taxes, the private federal reserve bank, pays no taxes, receives money printed out of thin air, and none of the members have ever been audited, or will ever pay a dime, they are the ones who love shit like this, and Obama care, that give you a fine paid directly to them!
GodFrequency

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07/02/2012 10:32 PM
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In 1912 There were No Federal Income Taxes, No national debt to speak of, and No Federal REserve Bank!

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GodFrequency

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In 1912 There were No Federal Income Taxes, No national debt to speak of, and No Federal REserve Bank!

1912 in 2012
1912 in 2012

Last Edited by GodFrequency on 07/02/2012 10:32 PM
Anonymous Coward
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07/02/2012 10:33 PM
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JUST wait till we get international warrants for u.s tax evaders.Some of these nations if would be cheaper to pay off the country of the resident, just to have them shipped back on tax evasion.
 Quoting: THEVOICE


Sometimes harder than you think deadbeat worker bee.

I got stuck with a 50k tax debt in 2008 when a vendor did not pay me. Its now 200 k. I am unemployed and almost homeless after losing my business would love to pay my tax debt.

I think I will get out before 2013. I dont care if I have to become a Kiwi. Here I come.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 986007


Sometimes harder than you think deadbeat worker bee.

I got stuck with a 50k tax debt in 2008 when a vendor did not pay me. Its now 200 k. I am unemployed and almost homeless after losing my business would love to pay my tax debt.

I think I will get out before 2013. I dont care if I have to become a Kiwi. Here I come.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 986007

Wow! Russia has a dwindling population. Maybe check their laws. I noticed extradition for things they did not consider politically correct, they don't extradite. Maybe you could get assylum there. I am clueless. It feels like we have become potential "jewish people" awaiting "Auschwitz" if we stay here for more strange laws.Especially with all those guillotines friends in the Air Force have trained on underground in Arizona.Maybe we can send the tax debt back here working in countries who still have jobs.Become like the Mexicans...sort of...
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07/02/2012 10:35 PM
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we are born in to way more debt than that, so we are all screwed...

irs can just say someone owes them, then they cant leave.

we should be rioting over this.
 Quoting: violentoppisition


True 'dat~!

If my husband would actually agree to go to Canada, we would be there..
 Quoting: Starry eyes


Why not go to SE Asia or central/south America?

Lots more freedom here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19011907


Please don´t! Stay there and fix your mess, stand up for your rights. Asia and SA are going down the same road, only slower...
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Then the novel approach would be too PAY YOUR F'IN TAXES ya damn DEADBEATS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19006770



Origin: The roots of IRS go back to the Civil War when President Lincoln and Congress, in 1862, created the position of commissioner of Internal Revenue and enacted an income tax to pay war expenses. The income tax was repealed 10 years later. Congress revived the income tax in 1894, but the Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional the following year.

[link to www.irs.gov]

dont give me any shit about the 16th amendment
that no one can prove was ratified...
Anonymous Coward
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To all you expats who have permanent residency in other countries, you are at risk of being deported because your ID card is tied to your passport. If your passport gets revoked then your ID card becomes invalid. A lot of expats who left the USA for tax reasons thought they were home free when they got legal residence in another country. But you may be FUBAR. It all depends how friendly your new country is to the USA. They may roll over on you.
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Federal employees owe $1.03 billion in unpaid taxes

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

Of course they'll just give themselves immunity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18929185


Of course!wakeup
 Quoting: Starry eyes


Just like being specifically exempted from obama person's deathcare.





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