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I don't keep up on celebrity news because I really don't care, but my girlfriend asked if I had heard on GLP that katie Holmes is being stalked by the scientology group. I had not and looked into as we all have read about this CULT and know what they are really about and capable of I do not put it past them. Here is a quick snip it from an article:

" Sources close to Katie Holmes have claimed that the actress is ‘terrified’ that she is being stalked by Scientologists.

Two men in a white 4x4 with tinted windows were parked outside her New York apartment yesterday, with Katie apparently fearing that rogue members of the Church of Scientology are behind it.

A second car – a black SUV – is also thought to have been tailing Katie around the city for the last few weeks, in the run up to her divorce announcement."


Rest of article found here: [link to m.mirror.co.uk]

What Yall think?
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Hell, I'll protect her from Scientologists!!! Hot woman right there. Poor Tom.
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I posted this in another thread and it is somewhat long, but it is a pretty good expose of the gangstalking that the "Church" of Scientology does.

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gives ?? NOT because its a celebrity but because I am sure if she has stalkers the paparazi surrounding here will be the best bet for proof. This has been claimed before maybe we will get some proof, maybe she knows to much, maybe they want suri (spl?) The daughter.
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Hell, I'll protect her from Scientologists!!! Hot woman right there. Poor Tom.
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Ya I hear ya, but fuck tom. He's wacky! That "church" is wacky and not because they believe we were brought here by aliens. That is somewhat plausible, maybe, but everything else is the wacky part. I mean it was formed by Ron Hubbard come on!
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I posted this in another thread and it is somewhat long, but it is a pretty good expose of the gangstalking that the "Church" of Scientology does.


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I can't watch this right now, I'm on a cell phone at a bar posting lol. What's the summary or some insight into the vid until I can watch it later.
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Anybody?!
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Hell, I'll protect her from Scientologists!!! Hot woman right there. Poor Tom.
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Ya I hear ya, but fuck tom. He's wacky! That "church" is wacky and not because they believe we were brought here by aliens. That is somewhat plausible, maybe, but everything else is the wacky part. I mean it was formed by Ron Hubbard come on!
 Quoting: Disillusioning


Agreed - F'ing NUTS!!! On the plus side, his wacky shit gave us all back a hottie. On the negative side, we are still stuck with Tom.
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I believe it.

A good friend of ours is scientologist. We try to stay away from the cult aspect because he's our friend -- but one day he did let a little thing slip that basically said that if they ever messed with [omitted] then he'd just sick the church lawyrers on [them] ...

We knew righ then that even though he tries to paint a rosy picture of Scientology -- that at least *some* (if not all) of the stuff we have read is true.
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It could also be a publicity ploy by her, to help her get full custody.

I hope she does. Nicole Kidman didn't fight hard enough for her kids. I remember at the same time she had a mini breakdown. I wonder how low Tom stooped to keep custody of those children.
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I hope she wins the fight... An article stated that Katie was raised Catholic, and is scared that The scientologist will send Suri away to Sea something or another(Scientologist cult operations)...There are so many articles showing her and Suri, so NO COURT can say that she is an absent mother, they can however say that about Tom... More power to Katie, I just hope she "survives" it all... I wouldn't put anything past them, nothing at all.
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All scientologists are required to be homosexuals.
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She won't get custody.

They'll make sure they have the judge in their pockets, whatever it takes.

The child is not hers... but neither is it Tom's in truth.

It belongs to the Church... Katie Holmes was merely the vessel.

This will get a lot more messy before it is done... Ms Holmes should take precautions, I would be genuinely concerned for her safety if she intends to fight.
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If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...then it is a Scientologist and they will stalk you...no shit!
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She won't get custody.

They'll make sure they have the judge in their pockets, whatever it takes.

The child is not hers... but neither is it Tom's in truth.

It belongs to the Church... Katie Holmes was merely the vessel.

This will get a lot more messy before it is done... Ms Holmes should take precautions, I would be genuinely concerned for her safety if she intends to fight.
 Quoting: Lucky Charms


Fuck that bullshit.

The baby belongs to the mother, who wants to protect it.

Not the church...

What the hell are you saying?
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Hell, I'll protect her from Scientologists!!! Hot woman right there. Poor Tom.
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Ya I hear ya, but fuck tom. He's wacky! That "church" is wacky and not because they believe we were brought here by aliens. That is somewhat plausible, maybe, but everything else is the wacky part. I mean it was formed by Ron Hubbard come on!
 Quoting: Disillusioning


How wacky?

This wacky -----> cruisecruisecruise<------ That's wacked!
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She won't get custody.

They'll make sure they have the judge in their pockets, whatever it takes.

The child is not hers... but neither is it Tom's in truth.

It belongs to the Church... Katie Holmes was merely the vessel.

This will get a lot more messy before it is done... Ms Holmes should take precautions, I would be genuinely concerned for her safety if she intends to fight.
 Quoting: Lucky Charms


Fuck that bullshit.

The baby belongs to the mother, who wants to protect it.

Not the church...

What the hell are you saying?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18095171


I'm saying... the child "belongs" to whichever parent is awarded custody... and if that's Tom, then the child belongs to the church.
Capiche?

Which parent do you think has the better lawyers?

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divorce announcement?

stalking Scientology's?

wheres the Harmonic Concordance group ? lol
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Scientology recruits the rich and famous, well known examples include Tom Cruise and John Travolta...

Once in, they are subjected to a grueling days long series of sessions which include elements of hypnosis and mind control, ultimately the subject is coerced into confessions of secrets as a part of a cleansing (purification) process.

Those secrets are ultimately used for extortion and control over the subject.

John Travolta has quietly attempted to leave the church many times, and always the allegations of homosexuality surface in the media.. It's not coincidence.

Cruise has remained loyal, and knows the consequences of breaching the trust with the "church", his wife became a threat, and had to go.

If she becomes too much more of a liability, there is nothing they wont do to shut her up.

She should be afraid of them... And perhaps even Cruise himself now as well.
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Anybody?!
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If they were legitimate and had nothing to hide, then why would they care about inquiries into their agenda, mindset of the group....
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So for the sake of argument, let's say the contract and the stalking is true. Katie was made well aware of what was expected of her and what her life would consist of while she was with Tom and agreed to the terms! And let's not forget the dollar amount attached to how long she stays with him, how many children she bears, ect.

Any NORMAL human being would read that list of demands and think "not in a million years. This guy is a nut job." Why would someone go along with it? MONEY and FAME.

At the time they got together, Katie's career was not so hot, and she was probably was concerned about money. So she agrees to this insane contract with a man and his whacked out church for financial security.

Doesn't this make her a greedythis sell out too? Isn't it coincidental that she files for divorce after 5 years? Probably to get that $20 million bonus. And I have to wonder how much she actually parents Suri or do the "nannies" (aka church handlers) are raising her?

She sold her soul for a big payday.
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So for the sake of argument, let's say the contract and the stalking is true. Katie was made well aware of what was expected of her and what her life would consist of while she was with Tom and agreed to the terms! And let's not forget the dollar amount attached to how long she stays with him, how many children she bears, ect.

Any NORMAL human being would read that list of demands and think "not in a million years. This guy is a nut job." Why would someone go along with it? MONEY and FAME.

At the time they got together, Katie's career was not so hot, and she was probably was concerned about money. So she agrees to this insane contract with a man and his whacked out church for financial security.

Doesn't this make her a greedythis sell out too? Isn't it coincidental that she files for divorce after 5 years? Probably to get that $20 million bonus. And I have to wonder how much she actually parents Suri or do the "nannies" (aka church handlers) are raising her?

She sold her soul for a big payday.
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Reading a contract and living the reality are two different things.
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So for the sake of argument, let's say the contract and the stalking is true. Katie was made well aware of what was expected of her and what her life would consist of while she was with Tom and agreed to the terms! And let's not forget the dollar amount attached to how long she stays with him, how many children she bears, ect.

Any NORMAL human being would read that list of demands and think "not in a million years. This guy is a nut job." Why would someone go along with it? MONEY and FAME.

At the time they got together, Katie's career was not so hot, and she was probably was concerned about money. So she agrees to this insane contract with a man and his whacked out church for financial security.

Doesn't this make her a greedythis sell out too? Isn't it coincidental that she files for divorce after 5 years? Probably to get that $20 million bonus. And I have to wonder how much she actually parents Suri or do the "nannies" (aka church handlers) are raising her?

She sold her soul for a big payday.
 Quoting: no one 35


she had a crush on him since she was a kid

after her first date, he sent a limo full of flowers and chocolates

after that, she was swept off her feet

he was no-budget romantic

she got bamboozled
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I posted this in another thread and it is somewhat long, but it is a pretty good expose of the gangstalking that the "Church" of Scientology does.


 Quoting: Wonkish


I can't watch this right now, I'm on a cell phone at a bar posting lol. What's the summary or some insight into the vid until I can watch it later.
 Quoting: Disillusioning


It's an hour long. You can get similar information by going to Leaving Scientology Resource Guide
[link to leavescientology.blogspot.com]
and browsing [link to www.xenu.net]
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then her head cleared--and she found herself married to a creep, surrounded by "handlers"

and stuck b/c of this child they shared

reports say she has been living in a gilded cage totally unhappy for several years

living in separate places, not sharing a bedroom with Tom

she has decided to flee now b/c he wants to send Suri off for her serious brain washing by Sea Org
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It could also be a publicity ploy by her, to help her get full custody.

I hope she does. Nicole Kidman didn't fight hard enough for her kids. I remember at the same time she had a mini breakdown. I wonder how low Tom stooped to keep custody of those children.
 Quoting: Aunty Flo


i was a "member" of the church for only 2 years, at the Celebrity Center in Hollywierd, but boy oh boy - my last day there I was held against my will in a room for over an hour! Long long story. They are absolutely certifiable on soo many levels. I would steal my kid away to Nigeria before I would let them even come close to the teachings of that church.

Most of what you read about it IS TRUE!

im with Katie
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It could also be a publicity ploy by her, to help her get full custody.

I hope she does. Nicole Kidman didn't fight hard enough for her kids. I remember at the same time she had a mini breakdown. I wonder how low Tom stooped to keep custody of those children.
 Quoting: Aunty Flo


i was a "member" of the church for only 2 years, at the Celebrity Center in Hollywierd, but boy oh boy - my last day there I was held against my will in a room for over an hour! Long long story. They are absolutely certifiable on soo many levels. I would steal my kid away to Nigeria before I would let them even come close to the teachings of that church.

Most of what you read about it IS TRUE!

im with Katie
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I've driven around that block before, the people in white shirts with black pants and headphones walking around the perimeter...it is creepy as hell..

how do you just join though? Walk in the door?
"doesn't it make you feel better?"
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Better hope the judge isn't a fan of Top Gun.

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I loved that panorama programe when he went mental
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ahhh
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