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No-one is allowed to hold my nieces new baby unless vaccinated against whooping cough!!

 
Just miffed (OP)

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My niece was informed by 2 doctors that unless everyone including her & her husband have been vaccinated for whooping cough then they won't be 'allowed' to hold her new born baby (due next week) They were only told this today!!
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Get your niece a nice gift then. Go to a homeless shelter and trade $5 for one of the blankets out of the dirty laundry hamper. Double it over and run a sewing machine around all 4 sides. Paste some baby theme patches on it and wrap it up. Makes a nice gift...and it will help your niece build a better immunity system against the world than a vaccination.
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I can save myself $5 lol my son was living in the parks in Sydney for 5 weeks & told me where he stashed his blankets so that should do the trick hehe
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they are doctors only in name. they want to kill your baby with a shitty vaccine they will get kickbacks from big pharma for admin'ing it.

stop them at all costs, even if you have to brek a neck.
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07/06/2012 09:08 AM
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i would get the doctor to sign a legal document stating under penatly or purgery they can show this is benefit to the child.
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they are doctors only in name. they want to kill your baby with a shitty vaccine they will get kickbacks from big pharma for admin'ing it.

stop them at all costs, even if you have to brek a neck.
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It's my nieces baby & I'm afraid I'm the nutty conspirator in the family so no-one will listen (my whole family are still sound asleep!!)
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id also have the doctor take the vaccine themselves, and if they state they already had it, no proof on paper will do, it has to be video evidence.
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07/06/2012 09:12 AM
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Re: No-one is allowed to hold my nieces new baby unless vaccinated against whooping cough!!
they are doctors only in name. they want to kill your baby with a shitty vaccine they will get kickbacks from big pharma for admin'ing it.

stop them at all costs, even if you have to brek a neck.
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It's my nieces baby & I'm afraid I'm the nutty conspirator in the family so no-one will listen (my whole family are still sound asleep!!)
 Quoting: Just miffed


then dont worry about it.

tell them to make sure they cut the placenta the second the baby comes out so it maximises brain damage.

get them then to vaccinate the child against all viri known to humankind.

admit defeat, this baby can not be saved..


on a side note, do you remember that before vaccines came along it was quite clear that a virus was for life, and you can not prevent contracting it from an infected person.
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07/06/2012 09:29 AM
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1-2 month : Baby only sees mom , dad and once in a while brothers and sisters.( BABY IS NOT EXOTIC ZOO ANIMAL so every one got to hold it!)
3-4 month : Relatives can visit you and "see" baby in your hands.
4-8 month: You will know already if your baby have strong immune system... usually that is the case but don't be stupid..
Breast feed or goat milk as alternative, Not a germ free but provide clean environment.
Find local church with above poverty line churchgoers and use their mom/baby room for all means of building immune system.


As for "doctors" ....tell them to have everything in writing...and signed by them...see how they react.
As for vaccines....I have 3 children and only one vaccinated...
guess which one gets sick more often?

God bless baby and mom!
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1-2 month : Baby only sees mom , dad and once in a while brothers and sisters.( BABY IS NOT EXOTIC ZOO ANIMAL so every one got to hold it!)
3-4 month : Relatives can visit you and "see" baby in your hands.
4-8 month: You will know already if your baby have strong immune system... usually that is the case but don't be stupid..
Breast feed or goat milk as alternative, Not a germ free but provide clean environment.
Find local church with above poverty line churchgoers and use their mom/baby room for all means of building immune system.


As for "doctors" ....tell them to have everything in writing...and signed by them...see how they react.
As for vaccines....I have 3 children and only one vaccinated...
guess which one gets sick more often?

God bless baby and mom!
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edit: nope nobody who is not immunised gets to hold it for the first 6 weeks :(

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07/06/2012 10:26 AM

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Is this baby going to be in the hospital for 6 weeks? Otherwise, the doctor really has no say. All he can do is make suggestions.

Just smile and pretend like your listening and follow your own best judgement when the baby comes home.

I agree with the posting that babies should not be treated as exotic zoo animals to be touched by everyone. New babies should be in isolation with just close family for a while. We have computers now, watch your great niece or nephew online and then come and hold him or her when she/he is 6 months old.
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Is this baby going to be in the hospital for 6 weeks? Otherwise, the doctor really has no say. All he can do is make suggestions.

Just smile and pretend like your listening and follow your own best judgement when the baby comes home.

I agree with the posting that babies should not be treated as exotic zoo animals to be touched by everyone. New babies should be in isolation with just close family for a while. We have computers now, watch your great niece or nephew online and then come and hold him or her when she/he is 6 months old.
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I wont be holding the little cherub until it's at LEAST 6 months old as she lives a fair distance from me & I don't have the funds to go see her or bub in person for at least that long but I still think she should have been told this information MONTHS ago so her mum etc could have been prepared months in advance :)
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07/06/2012 10:44 AM
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Nobody that hasn't been vaccinated can hold the baby for six weeks?

Will the baby be at the hospital that long? Can't you just do whatever you want when the baby leaves the hospital?
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Nobody that hasn't been vaccinated can hold the baby for six weeks?

Will the baby be at the hospital that long? Can't you just do whatever you want when the baby leaves the hospital?
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I have no idea she is due in 4 days & the immediate family have all gone for the 'jab' this week, sounds like alot of hokus pokus to me???? I've had 3 kids & never had any of these RULES applied at any of my babies births!!!!
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If I was the mom I woudlnt get the vaccine. And probably 3 hours after birth sign myself and my baby out of hospital ama.
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07/06/2012 10:55 AM
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So basically, no one can hold the baby unless they've been exposed to whooping cough? Sounds legit.

tard
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If I was the mom I woudlnt get the vaccine. And probably 3 hours after birth sign myself and my baby out of hospital ama.
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I wish she wouldn't myself but I am the conspirator mad auntie & she & her family think I am NUTSO so nothing I say is relevant :( I myself booked out after 24hrs of birth with all of my (3) kids but these days apparently that is abnormal now!!!
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07/06/2012 11:03 AM
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Think! If your child to get it? Your child will be immune. The pharmaceutical companies just want more money.
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07/06/2012 11:27 AM
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Re: No-one is allowed to hold my nieces new baby unless vaccinated against whooping cough!!
look it up thevaccine for pertussis is only 20 percent at best!
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07/06/2012 11:29 AM
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Ask them if they have improved the vaccine over last years...


Vaccine failure admitted: Whooping cough outbreaks higher among children already vaccinated
Thread: Vaccine failure admitted: Whooping cough outbreaks higher among children already vaccinated
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look it up thevaccine for pertussis is only 20 percent at best!
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Personally I KNOW THIS but I am the CRAZY aunty with the CRAZY theories, how the HELL do I get my MAINSTREAM relies to understand the BS with the SHIT they are fed????

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these doctors need a good whoopin
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+10000 it's bullshite to the max! They leave it to the last week to tell them so there is no chance of doing anything about it!
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Get a lawyer. The doc will back off.
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Re: No-one is allowed to hold my nieces new baby unless vaccinated against whooping cough!!
these doctors need a good whoopin
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+10000 it's bullshite to the max! They leave it to the last week to tell them so there is no chance of doing anything about it!
 Quoting: Just miffed


Get a lawyer. The doc will back off.
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AS ABOVE
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07/06/2012 11:37 AM

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bump Mandatory Vaccinations.......I posted a thread regarding things to this effect, starting up in October, no link, just information I was told....this is very interesting indeed! Thank you for sharing! bump
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Just miffed (OP)

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bump Mandatory Vaccinations.......I posted a thread regarding things to this effect, starting up in October, no link, just information I was told....this is very interesting indeed! Thank you for sharing! bump
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please link so I can read :) TYIA
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07/06/2012 11:45 AM
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its RETARDED that you call yourself a theorist when it comes to this shit. So many science papers about how vaccines do more harm than good and is a form of pop control.

its not a fucking theory if its already proven. if your people close to you are to fucking stupid then fuck them.
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07/06/2012 11:54 AM
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its RETARDED that you call yourself a theorist when it comes to this shit. So many science papers about how vaccines do more harm than good and is a form of pop control.

its not a fucking theory if its already proven. if your people close to you are to fucking stupid then fuck them.
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I AM A THEORIST BUT I CANNOT MAKE MY FAMILY ACCEPT MY BELIEFS, that I'm afraid is entirely up to them :(
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Give her this for for the doctors to sign, then. Any nurse or doctor who attempts to prevent the child from being held by whom the mother deems acceptable, must sign this form.


I, ___________, do hereby submit in writing that I do certify that the whooping cough vaccine is 100% safe, contains 0 toxins, 0 possible toxins, and that full and complete studies have been made proving both efficacy as well as safety for the vaccine that I am requiring.

I do hereby certify that I will be held accountable both financially and legally for any and all damages pursuant to the acceptance and administration of the vaccine, since I have certified it to be without risk.

I do hereby certify that I have full legal authority to declare who may, and who may not, touch the child of Mr. and Mrs. ________. Under this legal authority, I do certify the child is safe from whooping cough from anyone who has been vaccinated, and if the child in some way contracts the whooping cough from a vaccinated person, since I do certify the efficacy of the vaccine personally, I agree to be held responsible morally, financially, and legally.

Additionally, I do certify that there are absolutely 0 toxins in the vaccine that can have any effect on a developing fetus. Therefor, I do personally certify that the pregnant woman may allow this vaccine to be administered, for its safety and efficacy is proven beyond a doubt.

I do so solemnly swear.

Signed _____________________________

Witnessed _______________________________
Witnessed _______________________________

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No more requests in the "Strangest things" thread please. :hf:

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Just miffed (OP)

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Give her this for for the doctors to sign, then. Any nurse or doctor who attempts to prevent the child from being held by whom the mother deems acceptable, must sign this form.


I, ___________, do hereby submit in writing that I do certify that the whooping cough vaccine is 100% safe, contains 0 toxins, 0 possible toxins, and that full and complete studies have been made proving both efficacy as well as safety for the vaccine that I am requiring.

I do hereby certify that I will be held accountable both financially and legally for any and all damages pursuant to the acceptance and administration of the vaccine, since I have certified it to be without risk.

I do hereby certify that I have full legal authority to declare who may, and who may not, touch the child of Mr. and Mrs. ________. Under this legal authority, I do certify the child is safe from whooping cough from anyone who has been vaccinated, and if the child in some way contracts the whooping cough from a vaccinated person, since I do certify the efficacy of the vaccine personally, I agree to be held responsible morally, financially, and legally.

Additionally, I do certify that there are absolutely 0 toxins in the vaccine that can have any effect on a developing fetus. Therefor, I do personally certify that the pregnant woman may allow this vaccine to be administered, for its safety and efficacy is proven beyond a doubt.

I do so solemnly swear.

Signed _____________________________

Witnessed _______________________________
Witnessed _______________________________
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Sandi as I have declared before I am the nutty aunty who is queer & irreverent in all our family discussions (even though my mum has started on my concoction of turmeric powder & Cayenne Powder (with great results) it can't be ruled out that her doc put her on the right track with HRT patches :)

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Give her this for for the doctors to sign, then. Any nurse or doctor who attempts to prevent the child from being held by whom the mother deems acceptable, must sign this form.


I, ___________, do hereby submit in writing that I do certify that the whooping cough vaccine is 100% safe, contains 0 toxins, 0 possible toxins, and that full and complete studies have been made proving both efficacy as well as safety for the vaccine that I am requiring.

I do hereby certify that I will be held accountable both financially and legally for any and all damages pursuant to the acceptance and administration of the vaccine, since I have certified it to be without risk.

I do hereby certify that I have full legal authority to declare who may, and who may not, touch the child of Mr. and Mrs. ________. Under this legal authority, I do certify the child is safe from whooping cough from anyone who has been vaccinated, and if the child in some way contracts the whooping cough from a vaccinated person, since I do certify the efficacy of the vaccine personally, I agree to be held responsible morally, financially, and legally.

Additionally, I do certify that there are absolutely 0 toxins in the vaccine that can have any effect on a developing fetus. Therefor, I do personally certify that the pregnant woman may allow this vaccine to be administered, for its safety and efficacy is proven beyond a doubt.

I do so solemnly swear.

Signed _____________________________

Witnessed _______________________________
Witnessed _______________________________
 Quoting: Sandi_T


Sandi as I have declared before I am the nutty aunty who is queer & irreverent in all our family discussions (even though my mum has started on my concoction of turmeric powder & Sayenne Powder (with great results) it can't be ruled out that her doc put her on the right track with HRT patches :)
 Quoting: Just miffed


So send it to her. Just state that, "hey, if they're so sure it's healthy and won't harm your baby to do it while you're pregnant, why wouldn't they happily sign it? Do YOU want to be financially responsible if your baby gets ill from the vaccines?"

If nothing else, if anything happens, you will have established that "I told you so" and won't have to SAY it. wink
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why the fuck would the docs say that?

something very odd about this, if not a troll thread
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Thread: I have no link, so I expect the worst from you guys, but nonetheless......

I wasn't able to share much information, but perhaps you can get the gist of it....thank you for sharing your information!!!
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