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With Only Nine Aircraft . . . . I Can Change The Climate . . . CHEMTRAILS?

 
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I can attest that glaciers are receding in Alaska,
 Quoting: George B



And I can attest to intelligence receding in the USA - especially the blue states.

How can it be that we are so willing to give up what made this country, and this world, great?

How can it be that we are willing to drift into the twilight zone with nary a whimper, nor any resistance?

How can it be that we are willing to accept the notion that we are criminals upon this planet and must accept punishment for being human and American at the same time?

We have led the world in improving the standard of living for humanity and now we accept the notion that we suck. How can that be?

Why do you morons buy into that bilge?

Without America and Americans, the entire planet would still SUCK as a place to live. Yet, you chemtards are SOOOO eager to believe that we're actually KILLING the planet and you're doing everything in your power to spread that CRAP.

Fuck you!
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I think that was a good 4th of July post.
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Hey arsehole, its not global warming.

It's weather weirding.

Incase you've not noticed, global weather paterns are a bit fucked up at the moment.

After 911, when all aircraft were grounded, it was proved that with no contrails ground temps were 1 to 2 degrees higher.
'Bingo' said the scientists, 'if only we could put more contrails in the air'.
'We can do it' said the engineers, 'we'll make them linger and merge in the atmosphere.
They went to the gov's of the world and said - 'we might be able to slow down the earths heating, but ffs don't let the sheople know 'cos they will freak at the enormity of the present situation we are facing'.
'ok' said the gov's, 'have a go, we've nothing to lose'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3921935


Why don't you do some research and find out how REALLY weird the weather has been over the past 4.5 thousand-million years.

You have no idea what weird is and you have no idea what you're talking about.

Global weather patterns aren't fucked up at all - not nearly as fucked up a the crap in your cranium you call ideas are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8863721


you truly are a classic glp paranoid egomaniac fuckwit.

If your only argument is...

This site is prolly the oonly site where everyone is still stuck in the are they arn't they loop.
There are several science forums, which I can't mention here (figures they would be ban words!?) where we have gone beyond that old loop and are discussing the reasons why.
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oh, poor bannable you, can't say shit, your bannable, ha!
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I think that was a good 4th of July post.
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I thought so.
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you truly are a classic glp paranoid egomaniac fuckwit.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3921935

I am an America-loving American and one of the few remaining self-respecting Americans that appreciate and respect how great this country is and has been for all of humanity.

Fuck you.
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Weather wierding :)

One day it will come to aiming haarp at volcanoes and just quickly changing it all. It will be a secret. No one will know. It could happen. I read it somewhere, so it might be true. I wonder if it has already been done?

Weather wierding :(
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"I read it somewhere, so it might be true"

^chemtard research^
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I can attest that glaciers are receding in Alaska,
 Quoting: George B



And I can attest to intelligence receding in the USA - especially the blue states.

How can it be that we are so willing to give up what made this country, and this world, great?

How can it be that we are willing to drift into the twilight zone with nary a whimper, nor any resistance?

How can it be that we are willing to accept the notion that we are criminals upon this planet and must accept punishment for being human and American at the same time?

We have led the world in improving the standard of living for humanity and now we accept the notion that we suck. How can that be?

Why do you morons buy into that bilge?

Without America and Americans, the entire planet would still SUCK as a place to live. Yet, you chemtards are SOOOO eager to believe that we're actually KILLING the planet and you're doing everything in your power to spread that CRAP.

Fuck you!


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8863721

So . . . if people believe there could be an Intentional Covert Atmospheric Aerosol Injection Program and say so . . . they are somehow un-American ???? Wow! That is very interesting . . .

So, some of the most revered Americans have destroyed the Nation by saying what they think is the truth. . . .speaking publicly about potential evils, injustice, and abuse. . . .I get it !!!!!!!huffy

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"Thus, we have the ability to do away with oil (and other fossil fuels) but it will take 4-6 years and ca. $100-200M to build the full-scale plant and demonstrate it." Dr.Bussard 2006
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Fucking hell OP you do rabbit on dont ya.
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That is an interesting way of saying it, but . . . YES!!! . . . 1rof1
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"Thus, we have the ability to do away with oil (and other fossil fuels) but it will take 4-6 years and ca. $100-200M to build the full-scale plant and demonstrate it." Dr.Bussard 2006
 Quoting: EMPerror


"In August 2007, EMC2 received a $1.8M U.S. Navy research contract to continue the reactor development.[23] Before Bussard's death in October, 2007,[24] Dolly Gray, who co-founded EMC2 with Bussard in 1985, and served as its president and CEO, helped assemble the small team of scientists in Santa Fe to carry on his work. The group is led by Richard (Rick) Nebel and includes Jaeyoung Park; (both Nebel and Park are physicists on leave from the Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL)); Mike Wray, the physicist who ran the key 2005 tests; and Kevin Wray, who is the computer specialist for the operation.
What is now called WB-7, the more robust version of the WB-6 fusion device, was constructed at a machine shop in San Diego and shipped to Santa Fe to the EMC2 testing facility. The device, like prior ones, was designed by engineer Mike Skillicorn. This WB-7 however was not the “square” coil suggested by Dr. Bussard.
WB-7, achieved "1st plasma" in early January, 2008.[25][26]
No specific information has been published as of 2010, due to a publishing embargo on research data maintained by US Navy.[27] The prior project, led by the late Dr. Bussard, had been under an embargo for 11 years between 1994 and 2005 when that series of contracts with the US Navy ended."

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All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Haarp is connected to chemtrails. I read it somewhere. The purpose of chemtrails may be to facilitate haarp doings. It's all madly connected and evil does exist in the hearts of Americans, it causes unknowable damage. Sort of like poisoning the earth from the sky for purposes of controlling weather and I don't trust a secret program that changes my sky. I think the sky right above me is mine, I own a slice of the sky and it is supposed to be blue with occaisional real clouds.

:peaking:
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As to the issue of global warming. . . A most complex issue as all atmospheric issues are . . .

I can attest that glaciers are receding in Alaska, at least the ones I watched over the years I lived there. . . And I also feel the information regarding the wholesale melting of the Greenland Ice Pack is correct. . . .Dr Teller believed global warming was true, but he didn't necessarily believe it was caused by human activity.

Whether warming is a normal cycle or is just especially bad this time around I would have to say it is most likely possible. . . .I think geologic evidence and ancient human habitation areas now being found under water indicate that a warming period occurred from 10,000 to 13,000 years ago. . . .who is to say we are not headed for another change in climate. . . .hot or cold. . . . THE DIFFERENCE IS . . . We think we are now capable enough to play with nature to the point we can delay or alter climatic cycles. . . GOOD LUCK!!!!!
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In agreementbumpbumpbump with you on this, George B. Great thread by the way.
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they stopped chem trailing in my area... right before this heat wave
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Same here, 100% stopped. In fact, airtraffic dropped by at least half.... I see far less traffic now than 3 or so weeks ago.
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Haarp is connected to chemtrails. I read it somewhere. The purpose of chemtrails may be to facilitate haarp doings. It's all madly connected and evil does exist in the hearts of Americans, it causes unknowable damage. Sort of like poisoning the earth from the sky for purposes of controlling weather and I don't trust a secret program that changes my sky. I think the sky right above me is mine, I own a slice of the sky and it is supposed to be blue with occaisional real clouds.

:peaking:
 Quoting: WindyMind


Windy, I think many feel the way you do . . . The problem is we don't have the facts and we fear the unknown . . . hf
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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As to the issue of global warming. . . A most complex issue as all atmospheric issues are . . .

I can attest that glaciers are receding in Alaska, at least the ones I watched over the years I lived there. . . And I also feel the information regarding the wholesale melting of the Greenland Ice Pack is correct. . . .Dr Teller believed global warming was true, but he didn't necessarily believe it was caused by human activity.

Whether warming is a normal cycle or is just especially bad this time around I would have to say it is most likely possible. . . .I think geologic evidence and ancient human habitation areas now being found under water indicate that a warming period occurred from 10,000 to 13,000 years ago. . . .who is to say we are not headed for another change in climate. . . .hot or cold. . . . THE DIFFERENCE IS . . . We think we are now capable enough to play with nature to the point we can delay or alter climatic cycles. . . GOOD LUCK!!!!!
 Quoting: George B


In agreementbumpbumpbump with you on this, George B. Great thread by the way.
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Thankssssssss!!! hf
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they stopped chem trailing in my area... right before this heat wave
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Same here, 100% stopped. In fact, airtraffic dropped by at least half.... I see far less traffic now than 3 or so weeks ago.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9222520


LOL!!!
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I can attest that glaciers are receding in Alaska,
 Quoting: George B



And I can attest to intelligence receding in the USA - especially the blue states.

How can it be that we are so willing to give up what made this country, and this world, great?

How can it be that we are willing to drift into the twilight zone with nary a whimper, nor any resistance?

How can it be that we are willing to accept the notion that we are criminals upon this planet and must accept punishment for being human and American at the same time?

We have led the world in improving the standard of living for humanity and now we accept the notion that we suck. How can that be?

Why do you morons buy into that bilge?

Without America and Americans, the entire planet would still SUCK as a place to live. Yet, you chemtards are SOOOO eager to believe that we're actually KILLING the planet and you're doing everything in your power to spread that CRAP.

Fuck you!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8863721


They don't CHOOSE to be insane...
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?
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Air quality legislation

Effectiveness

Studies by the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Governmental imposition of clean air standards has contributed to an improvement in human health and longer life spans. The EPA reported that the "1990 Clean Air Act amendments will reach approximately $2 trillion in 2020 while saving 230,000 people from early death in that year alone." The study also reports that in 2010 alone, the reduction of ozone and particulate matter in the atmoshphere prevented more than 160,000 cases of premature mortality, 130,000 heart attacks, 13 million lost work days and 1.7 million asthma attacks.[5]

Several lawsuits raised against power plants for controlling emissions and the EPA for not fulfilling their regulatory duties have cited data on increased respiratory illnesses in the region. Diné CARE sued the EPA for not implementing regulations and penalties towards the Four Corners Generating Station, located on the Navajo Indian Reservation in New Mexico, display that the number one reason for admittance at the Shiprock Indian Hospital are respiratory complications.[6]

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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

This needs to be applied to chemtrails. We have to fight for the freedom to breathe clean air.
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Air quality legislation

Effectiveness

Studies by the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Governmental imposition of clean air standards has contributed to an improvement in human health and longer life spans. The EPA reported that the "1990 Clean Air Act amendments will reach approximately $2 trillion in 2020 while saving 230,000 people from early death in that year alone." The study also reports that in 2010 alone, the reduction of ozone and particulate matter in the atmoshphere prevented more than 160,000 cases of premature mortality, 130,000 heart attacks, 13 million lost work days and 1.7 million asthma attacks.[5]

Several lawsuits raised against power plants for controlling emissions and the EPA for not fulfilling their regulatory duties have cited data on increased respiratory illnesses in the region. Diné CARE sued the EPA for not implementing regulations and penalties towards the Four Corners Generating Station, located on the Navajo Indian Reservation in New Mexico, display that the number one reason for admittance at the Shiprock Indian Hospital are respiratory complications.[6]

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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

This needs to be applied to chemtrails. We have to fight for the freedom to breathe clean air.
 Quoting: WindyMind



The legal system has a hard time denying the existence of power plant. . . .they can deny that chemtrails exist . . . However, they cannot deny jet exhausts exist. . . .hf

MIT study finds aircraft emissions at cruise altitude contribute to 8,000 premature deaths per year worldwide

[link to www.greenaironline.com]


(graphic: Christine Daniloff, MIT)
Fri 8 Oct 2010 – Findings from a new study show that around 8,000 premature deaths a year can be attributed to the effects of oxides of nitrogen and sulphur (NOx and SOx) emissions from aircraft at cruise altitude, reports Morgan Bettex. Most of these emissions are caused by aircraft over North America and Europe but prevailing winds take them eastwards, where they can form a deadly mix with ammonia released from farming. Nearly half the total premature deaths occur in India and China. Up till now, regulation has only applied to such emissions up to the 3,000-feet level, the take-off and landing cycle, but the researchers recommend that cruise emissions be explicitly considered in the development of policies, technologies and operational procedures designed to mitigate the air quality impacts of transportation. Similar emissions from shipping are believed to be responsible for around 60,000 premature deaths annually.

To study the effects of cruise emissions, Barrett used a computer model that combined data about plane trajectories, the amount of fuel burned during flights and the estimated emissions from those flights. He combined that with a global atmospheric model that accounts for air-circulation patterns in different parts of the globe and the effect of emissions to determine where aviation emissions might cause an increase in fine particulate matter. He then used data related to population density and risk of disease in different parts of the world to determine how the change in particulate matter over certain regions might affect people on the ground – specifically, whether the air pollutants would lead to an increased risk of death. 
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The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Since it is done with planes a law to control the exhaust contents might help. That would work wouldn't it? Fines for planes not complying. Would that help? Seems like it.
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Since it is done with planes a law to control the exhaust contents might help. That would work wouldn't it? Fines for planes not complying. Would that help? Seems like it.
 Quoting: WindyMind


Possibly, seems the regulations only apply to altitudes below 3,000 feet . . . Everything else is voluntary. . . .huffy

"Up till now, regulation has only applied to such emissions up to the 3,000-feet level, the take-off and landing cycle, but the researchers recommend that cruise emissions be explicitly considered in the development of policies, technologies and operational procedures designed to mitigate the air quality impacts of transportation."
[link to www.greenaironline.com]

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Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Air quality legislation

Effectiveness

Studies by the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Governmental imposition of clean air standards has contributed to an improvement in human health and longer life spans. The EPA reported that the "1990 Clean Air Act amendments will reach approximately $2 trillion in 2020 while saving 230,000 people from early death in that year alone." The study also reports that in 2010 alone, the reduction of ozone and particulate matter in the atmoshphere prevented more than 160,000 cases of premature mortality, 130,000 heart attacks, 13 million lost work days and 1.7 million asthma attacks.[5]

Several lawsuits raised against power plants for controlling emissions and the EPA for not fulfilling their regulatory duties have cited data on increased respiratory illnesses in the region. Diné CARE sued the EPA for not implementing regulations and penalties towards the Four Corners Generating Station, located on the Navajo Indian Reservation in New Mexico, display that the number one reason for admittance at the Shiprock Indian Hospital are respiratory complications.[6]

[edit]


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

This needs to be applied to chemtrails. We have to fight for the freedom to breathe clean air.
 Quoting: WindyMind



The legal system has a hard time denying the existence of power plant. . . .they can deny that chemtrails exist . . . However, they cannot deny jet exhausts exist. . . .hf

MIT study finds aircraft emissions at cruise altitude contribute to 8,000 premature deaths per year worldwide

[link to www.greenaironline.com]


(graphic: Christine Daniloff, MIT)
Fri 8 Oct 2010 – Findings from a new study show that around 8,000 premature deaths a year can be attributed to the effects of oxides of nitrogen and sulphur (NOx and SOx) emissions from aircraft at cruise altitude, reports Morgan Bettex. Most of these emissions are caused by aircraft over North America and Europe but prevailing winds take them eastwards, where they can form a deadly mix with ammonia released from farming. Nearly half the total premature deaths occur in India and China. Up till now, regulation has only applied to such emissions up to the 3,000-feet level, the take-off and landing cycle, but the researchers recommend that cruise emissions be explicitly considered in the development of policies, technologies and operational procedures designed to mitigate the air quality impacts of transportation. Similar emissions from shipping are believed to be responsible for around 60,000 premature deaths annually.

To study the effects of cruise emissions, Barrett used a computer model that combined data about plane trajectories, the amount of fuel burned during flights and the estimated emissions from those flights. He combined that with a global atmospheric model that accounts for air-circulation patterns in different parts of the globe and the effect of emissions to determine where aviation emissions might cause an increase in fine particulate matter. He then used data related to population density and risk of disease in different parts of the world to determine how the change in particulate matter over certain regions might affect people on the ground – specifically, whether the air pollutants would lead to an increased risk of death. 
 Quoting: George B


Wow! 8,000!!!???

How many premature deaths can be attributed to automobile use?!

I guess we need to ban all cars from the roads...huh?

Fucking idiot...

BTW..

Contribution and causation are two VERY different things...

Last Edited by Noble on 07/05/2012 10:01 AM
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Evergreen International Airlines, based in McMinnville, Ore., currently operates 10 747s, including one 747-400 Freighter and nine 747-200 Freighters.

[link to boeing.mediaroom.com]
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Evergreen International Airlines, based in McMinnville, Ore., currently operates 10 747s, including one 747-400 Freighter and nine 747-200 Freighters.

[link to boeing.mediaroom.com]
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 Quoting: George B


Payload for one flight . . . Around 250 Tons. . . .coffee4

Hmmmmm . . . Only 160 tons per flight are required to meet the nine aircraft requirement . . . Seems we may be able to do the trick with way fewer than nine aircraft. . . .ohno
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If it is ongoing . . .you can bet they have gone to great lengths to keep it under the radar. . . So the motives are very serious and they are hiding more than a little sulfur in the stratosphere. . . .oops2
 Quoting: George B


The sulphur is up your ass, George.

Airliners are in the troposphere, not the stratosphere. There are no chemtrails, anywhere, EVER.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8863721


Sorry, you are wrong . . . coffee4

"Commercial airliners typically cruise at altitudes of 9–12 km (30,000–39,000 ft) in temperate latitudes (in the lower reaches of the stratosphere).[2]

goaway
This optimizes fuel burn, mostly thanks to the low temperatures encountered near the tropopause and low air density, reducing parasitic drag on the airframe. It also allows them to stay above hard weather (extreme turbulence)."
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 Quoting: George B


Seems in Canada . . . A 747 can easily cruise in the stratosphere. . . . coffee4

"The 747 has a service ceiling of flight level 430 or 43,000 feet. This is the highest altitude that the aircraft can attain and still keep a climb rate of 100 feet per minute. Most other airliners have a similar ceiling ranging from 40,000-45,000 feet. However, commercial aircraft do not typically cruise at their service ceiling as this is not always economical. 

In my experience flying the 747, the average cruising altitude is usually about 35,000 feet. When loaded with full fuel, passengers (or cargo in my case) it is very difficult and wastes a lot of fuel to climb to 40,000+ feet. Oftentimes, large airliners like the 747 will take off and climb to 35,000 and cruise for a few hours then climb to 38,000 or 39,000 feet. "

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Re: With Only Nine Aircraft . . . . I Can Change The Climate . . . CHEMTRAILS?

The sulphur is up your ass, George.

Airliners are in the troposphere, not the stratosphere. There are no chemtrails, anywhere, EVER.

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Seems in Canada . . . A 747 can easily cruise in the stratosphere. . . .In my experience flying the 747, the average cruising altitude is usually about 35,000 feet. When loaded with full fuel, passengers (or cargo in my case) it is very difficult and wastes a lot of fuel to climb to 40,000+ feet. Oftentimes, large airliners like the 747 will take off and climb to 35,000 and cruise for a few hours then climb to 38,000 or 39,000 feet. "

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So sue the Canadians.

It costs too much money and burns too much fuel to climb that high on a daily basis. Jets you see flying over your head are in the troposphere, no the stratosphere.
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Re: With Only Nine Aircraft . . . . I Can Change The Climate . . . CHEMTRAILS?
Let's do some math. . . .the cost of climbing to an extreme altitude is weight . . . so if I load my craft to only 160 tons instead of 250 tons of cargo the burn would far less. . . . And of course if I unload my cargo in flight my weight is even more reduced. . . .airliners usually frown on dumping their passengers and cargo in flight. . . . But I don't have that problem . .1rof1

Also, I don't need maximum fuel either. . . .wow!!!! . . . Even more cost effective. . . .how about that?????

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Re: With Only Nine Aircraft . . . . I Can Change The Climate . . . CHEMTRAILS?
Let's do some more math. . . I need a flight crew of four times nine . . . 36 total crew members. . . ground crew can be contracted at different airfields. . . .probably need another 30 or so people to load and clean the aircraft. . . .a few here or there to pick up and deliver industrial grade sulfur compounds. . . .the most common of all substances transported in the world. . . .

I would say I need about 100 people or so for the operation and another 50 for security. . . .

Total of 150 people and I can change the rate of climate change. . . .of course I need 1.5 Billion dollars as well. . . .verycool

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Re: With Only Nine Aircraft . . . . I Can Change The Climate . . . CHEMTRAILS?
Let's do some math. . . .the cost of climbing to an extreme altitude is weight . . . so if I load my craft to only 160 tons instead of 250 tons of cargo the burn would far less. . . . And of course if I unload my cargo in flight my weight is even more reduced. . . .airliners usually frown on dumping their passengers and cargo in flight. . . . But I don't have that problem . .1rof1

Also, I don't need maximum fuel either. . . .wow!!!! . . . Even more cost effective. . . .how about that?????
 Quoting: George B


You're once again demonstrating your acute need for professional help, George.

Please focus on, and try to remain within, reality.

It costs fuel to carry fuel, but you see cargo and passengers are what pay for it, so leaving that shit on the ground just to be able to climb into the stratosphere to satiate YOUR INSANE NEED to make a worthless point is not practical for anyone in the real world.

You live in a fantasyland of your own creation.

Again, please seek professional help,soonest. I believe there are meds out there that can help, but they're not OTC.

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