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With Only Nine Aircraft . . . . I Can Change The Climate . . . CHEMTRAILS?

 
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Chemtrail History and Information - Alan Watt [Full]



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Too late, it looks like all block the site...
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The rush is not the best advisor. All direct links seems not to work. It is not my fault.

But you can circumnavigate the problem by taking the link to the webalbum overview and then chose the second album which titles:

Exposing and Dissipating Geoengeneering Waste, July 9 Report
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Bottom-line argument for the EXISTENCE of an ICAAIP (Intentional Covert Atmospheric Aerosol Injection Program)

IMO,

siren2

1) There is no significant barrier to full implementation of efforts to alter the climate . . . Except public scrutiny!!!!!

2) The technology, materials, budget, infrastructure, and motives have been ripe for decades . . . 

3) The timeline between scientific proposals and feasibility has been more than sufficient. . . . The arguments of unintended side effects have been engaged and found acceptable. . . .

4) The materials are abundant, the airframes are more than adequate for the missions. . . . The manpower, facilities and techniques for security and secrecy are well practiced  . . . 

5) THE ONLY ARGUMENT is HAVE they been doing it for years, just recently started or have yet to start????????
 
C - Gun C - Gun C - Gun

 
January 30, 1998
hoover digest » 1998 no. 1 » environment
Sunscreen for Planet Earth
by Edward Teller


"Global warming is too serious to be left to the politicians. Hoover fellow Edward Teller suggests a scientific solution to the problem. (If there is a problem, that is.)"

"Injecting sunlight-scattering particles into the stratosphere appears to be a promising approach. Why not do that?"
siren2 siren2 siren2


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C - Gun


In the stratosphere, miles above Earth’s surface, small, airborne particles reflect sunlight back into space, which leads to a cooling influence at the ground. These particles are also called “aerosols," and the new paper explores their recent climate effects -- the reasons behind their increase remain the subject of ongoing research.

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Stratospheric Pollution Helps Slow Global Warming
Particles of sulfuric acid--injected by volcanoes or humans--have slowed the pace of climate change in the past decade
By David Biello  | July 22, 2011 |
[link to www.scientificamerican.com]

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Stratospheric Pollution Helps Slow Global Warming
Particles of sulfuric acid--injected by volcanoes or humans--have slowed the pace of climate change in the past decade
By David Biello  | July 22, 2011 |
[link to www.scientificamerican.com]
 Quoting: George B


1) We have increased sulfur particulates in the stratosphere during a time of no major volcanic eruptions  . . . speculation from   NOAA and NASA . . . maybe it was from minor volcanic eruptions , but not really sure . . . They need more research to sort it out . . . 

2) Others point to increased coal burning in China . . . like NOAA and NASA didn't have this information as well . . . Yea Sure!

3) Others reported major reductions in anthropomorphic sources of atmospheric sulfur during this same time . . . 

4) Let me make a suggestion that NOAA, NASA and Scientific American cannot make . . . what about an Intentional Covert Atmospheric Aerosol Injection Program . . . Injecting one million tons of sulfur compounds directly into the stratosphere!!!!!!scheming

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Chemtrail History and Information - Alan Watt [Full]



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I like the part about chelation therapy as an antidote to heavy metal poisoning.

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Injecting one million tons of sulfur compounds directly into the stratosphere!!!!!!scheming
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You mean up into the menopause, George?
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You don't mind if we call you "Menopause George" from here on out do you?

Good. SO IT SHALL BE!

Your new moniker is Menopause George.
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Injecting one million tons of sulfur compounds directly into the stratosphere!!!!!!scheming
 Quoting: George B


You mean up into the menopause, George?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19512776


Hormones have nothing to do with it . . . blink
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You don't mind if we call you "Menopause George" from here on out do you?

Good. SO IT SHALL BE!

Your new moniker is Menopause George.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19512776


And, 776, shall be dubbed......."lame brain". It's obvious as to the why.
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You don't mind if we call you "Menopause George" from here on out do you?

Good. SO IT SHALL BE!

Your new moniker is Menopause George.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19512776


And, 776, shall be dubbed......."lame brain". It's obvious as to the why.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1611462


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Thanks!!!!
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Injecting one million tons of sulfur compounds directly into the stratosphere!!!!!!scheming
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You mean up into the menopause, George?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19512776


Hormones have nothing to do with it . . . blink
 Quoting: George B


I think it has more to do with the fact your brain is stuck up in the menopause - where there is no life giving O2.
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Injecting one million tons of sulfur compounds directly into the stratosphere!!!!!!scheming
 Quoting: George B


You mean up into the menopause, George?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19512776


Hormones have nothing to do with it . . . blink
 Quoting: George B


I think it has more to do with the fact your brain is stuck up in the menopause - where there is no life giving O2.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19546716


So why don't you attack my research and theories instead of me personally . . .? yoda
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You mean up into the menopause, George?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19512776


Hormones have nothing to do with it . . . blink
 Quoting: George B


I think it has more to do with the fact your brain is stuck up in the menopause - where there is no life giving O2.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19546716


So why don't you attack my research and theories instead of me personally . . .? yoda
 Quoting: George B


"research and theories"

laugh
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12/21/2012 "Can you admit you are a shill?"

No, I can't. Because that would be a lie.

Can you admit that you are a gullible loser?
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Hormones have nothing to do with it . . . blink
 Quoting: George B


I think it has more to do with the fact your brain is stuck up in the menopause - where there is no life giving O2.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19546716


So why don't you attack my research and theories instead of me personally . . .? yoda
 Quoting: George B


"research and theories"

laugh
 Quoting: Noble


I know, that's hilarious. Menopause George call this kook-ass bullshit research. LOL
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Insult Purchase
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Scientific American published the following about the general public. . . .
A full 72 percent of participants in the survey, published in Environmental Research Letters, said they "supported" or "somewhat supported" the study of solar radiation management (SRM). The technique seeks to inject sulfur into the atmosphere to reflect sunlight and offset the warming caused by carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases.   [link to www.scientificamerican.com]

[link to www.scientificamerican.com]

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I'm all for injecting some oxygen and common sense into your brain Menopause George. Leave the sun alone. It's doing just fine all by itself.
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THE BENEFITS, RISKS, AND COSTS OF STRATOSPHERIC GEOENGINEERING

Alan Robock, Allison Marquardt, Ben Kravitz, and Georgiy Stenchikov Department of Environmental Sciences, Rutgers University, New Brunswick, New Jersey

Submitted for publication in Geophysical Research Letters
May, 2009

[link to climate.envsci.rutgers.edu]


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Table 2. Costs for different methods of injecting 1 Tg H2S per year to the stratosphere.

Line 525 & Line 526 & Line 527
Airplane data from Air Combat Command [2008], Air Mobility Command [2008a, 2008b]. Costs in last two lines from COSEPUP [1992]. Conversion from 1992 and 1998 dollars to 2008 dollars (latest data available) using the Consumer Price Index [Williamson, 2008].


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Method Payload Ceiling (tons) (km)

F-15C 8 20 Eagle
KC-135 91 15 Tanker
KC-10 160 13 Extender
Naval 0.5 Rifles
Stratospheric 4 Balloons

# of Units

167 with 3 flights/day
15 with 3 flights/day
9 with 3 flights/day
8,000 shots per day
37,000 per day

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Can Aircraft used for injection purposes be protected from public disclosure?. . . . .Good Question. . . . See below . . .at least in US airspace. . . .


Can I track military aircraft? What about presidential movements in Air Force One? (Back to top)

FlightAware does not track military aircraft and presidential movement flights (e.g., Air Force One, Marine One, etc.) are operated by the US military.
[link to flightaware.com]


Can I block my aircraft on FlightAware? (Back to top)

Yes, there are two ways to accomplish this:
FlightAware Selective (Un)blocking

Enroll in FlightAware's selective unblocking service for a tail number that is not already blocked. 

FlightAware can process your request with next-day service and will block your operations from the general public. Your FlightAware account(s) will continue to be able to securely view and track your aircraft. FlightAware will complete the paperwork necessary for blocking your aircraft on other flight tracking services and will provide you with everything you need to accomplish the block.

Blocking request through NBAA BARR

The NBAA (National Business Aviation Association) operates and

maintains the BARR (Blocked Aircraft Registration Request) in conjunction with the FAA. This service is free although it may take 30-45 days to take effect and will not allow your user account to track your aircraft on FlightAware unless you subscribe to FlightAware's selective unblocking service. 

For us to submit your request, simply contact us to walk you through the process.
[link to flightaware.com]

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The dismantling of BARR, which took effect Aug. 2, was met with bipartisan opposition in Congress. Many members of Congress and senators voiced their opposition to the change in letters to the Department of Transportation in the summer, and two bills to restore the program began making their way through each house of Congress. The appropriations bill that led to the program’s reinstatement cut off funding to anything that would limit an operator’s ability to request that his or her aircraft’s information be blocked from public dissemination.

Proponents of BARR argued that releasing information to the public such as the aircraft’s altitude, airspeed, destination, and estimated time of arrival invades privacy, poses a security risk to those on board, and threatens the competitiveness of U.S. companies.
[link to www.aopa.org]

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Menopause George! Please come back to earth.

You're scaring the children.
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Menopause George! Please come back to earth.

You're scaring the children.
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I am sorry to have frightened you . . . forgive me? ohno

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If chemtrails are higher up are they visible to us?

Why don't I see chemtrails now when solar flares are raging?

Do chemtrails have anything to do with solar flares?

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If chemtrails are higher up are they visible to us?
 Quoting: WindyMind


Depends on the weather and Atmopheric characteristics . . . Persistent trails should be easily seen well above 40,000 feet . . .

Why don't I see chemtrails now when solar flares are raging?
 Quoting: WindyMind

If the Relative Humidity is too low or the temperatures too warm at cruising altitudes trails will not be visible . . .

Do chemtrails have anything to do with solar flares?
 Quoting: WindyMind


The only association they have been proven to have on human nature is the rate of securities traded on the stock market . . . according to research done by the Federal Reserve in Atlanta . . . LoL!!!!!scheming
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The skies have been blue with beautiful puffy clouds for days and I don't think it makes sense that there should be no chemtrails at this time if the reason is to deflect the sun or solar flares.

So what is the real reason for chemtrails?

Do they build up over time and not have to be redone right away?

Where are my chemtrails?

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The skies have been blue with beautiful puffy clouds for days and I don't think it makes sense that there should be no chemtrails at this time if the reason is to deflect the sun or solar flares.
 Quoting: WindyMind


No one knows the reason . . . Except the people or agency paying for them . . . Everyone else is speculating or have a favorite whistleblower story they like. . .

So what is the real reason for chemtrails?
 Quoting: WindyMind


My personal favorite is to promote global dimming . . .

Do they build up over time and not have to be redone right away?
 Quoting: WindyMind


Sulfur compounds used for global dimming remain aloft for months and sometimes years . . . since it takes about one year to get up all the particulates needed . . . continual replacement is required to maintain the desired concentration . . .

Where are my chemtrails?
 Quoting: WindyMind


If you are referring to the persistent trails and cirrus cloud banks . . . wait for a cold front or storm front to come through . . . or just wait for winter you will see them more often then . .
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[link to www.chemtrailforecast.com]

It sounds like your saying they are contrails not chemtrails.

Last Edited by WindyMind on 07/12/2012 04:39 PM

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If chemtrails are higher up are they visible to us?
 Quoting: WindyMind


Depends on the weather and Atmopheric characteristics . . . Persistent trails should be easily seen well above 40,000 feet . . .
 Quoting: George B


Where airliners rarely go.
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If chemtrails are higher up are they visible to us?
 Quoting: WindyMind


Depends on the weather and Atmopheric characteristics . . . Persistent trails should be easily seen well above 40,000 feet . . .
 Quoting: George B


Where airliners rarely go.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19634099

40,000 feet or higher or lower . . . Persistent trails can be seen from space so I would think if trails are there at all . . . they can be seen from the ground no matter what the altitude is . . . Saudi Pic 1991
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