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There are no coincidences these days...timing is EVERYTHING!

This is the last part of the Position Limits Rule that has been put off for years. The reason that it has been put off was to allow the markets to continue to function in this manipulated state. But everything is changing and the manipulation is ending. Once the position limits rule is in place the ability to manipulate the silver market will be severely hampered.

It is happening at the perfect time.

Buy your physical Silver NOW!!!

[link to www.cftc.gov]


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There are no coincidences these days...timing is EVERYTHING!

This is the last part of the Position Limits Rule that has been put off for years. The reason that it has been put off was to allow the markets to continue to function in this manipulated state. But everything is changing and the manipulation is ending. Once the position limits rule is in place the ability to manipulate the silver market will be severely hampered.

It is happening at the perfect time.

Buy your physical Silver NOW!!!

[link to www.cftc.gov]


:Silver Coin:
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Actually, it's a meeting to consider the rule.
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I hope they get it through this time. There has been a lot of noise lately about Silver Manipulation, and it seems some big players in the Equities and, yes even hedge funds, are growing tired of it.

So maybe...

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Please enter your comments to the committee here:

[link to comments.cftc.gov]

Vote FOR position limits please
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please explain the situation a bit. some of us are still catching up. we speak english. thank you!

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I think we have a ways to go yet, but this will be interesting.

I hope to hell I sell my house soon so I can buy a few monster boxes.
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will be nice to see those banker maggots squirm in the frying pan.


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They will consider the rule so that they can buy time and set up another way to manipulate the markets when the rule goes into effect.
These fucks can't make money without manipulating the markets.

Let me rephrase that.

They can't make enough money to satisfy their greed so they must manipulate the market.
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I bet Obama Govt. expose the Libor gate and JPM afair in order to force and demonstrate that the market is corrupted and need new rules .
Its a clear and rotund 'cease and desist' message to banks !!
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please explain the situation a bit. some of us are still catching up. we speak english. thank you!

hf
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In a nutshell, in my understanding this is what we're dealing with.

JPMorgan specifically ( and a couple other entities allegedly) have massive short positions in silver which have, as has been the case fore years "arguably" ( in my view factually ) manipulated the price of silver down.

JP Morgan claims they have no proprietary position and that their shorts are just "hedges" for client. This is of course again provably false.

IF the CFTC does its job, they will limit the size of the positions (presumably long or short) that institutions are able to hold. This would force JP morgan to either get rid of their excess positions or justify why they should be allowed to keep them.

With JP Morgan and their cronies, they can see both sides of the trade so they can sell silver they don't have, set off stop losses, causing the price to in some cases plummet. Keep in mind we've seen the equivalent of 25% or more of the year's mining supply of silver traded in a matter of less than an hour.

On any rational level, the game is rigged.

On the grand scheme of things I am not expecting anything. We have the governments, central banks, the bank of international settlements and then private financial institutions all woven together and their game relies on keeping this bullshit casino together.

They won't go down without a fight.


The only upside is I need to get my head out of my ass, buckle down and keep buying silver.
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please explain the situation a bit. some of us are still catching up. we speak english. thank you!

hf
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In a nutshell, in my understanding this is what we're dealing with.

JPMorgan specifically ( and a couple other entities allegedly) have massive short positions in silver which have, as has been the case fore years "arguably" ( in my view factually ) manipulated the price of silver down.

JP Morgan claims they have no proprietary position and that their shorts are just "hedges" for client. This is of course again provably false.

IF the CFTC does its job, they will limit the size of the positions (presumably long or short) that institutions are able to hold. This would force JP morgan to either get rid of their excess positions or justify why they should be allowed to keep them.

With JP Morgan and their cronies, they can see both sides of the trade so they can sell silver they don't have, set off stop losses, causing the price to in some cases plummet. Keep in mind we've seen the equivalent of 25% or more of the year's mining supply of silver traded in a matter of less than an hour.

On any rational level, the game is rigged.

On the grand scheme of things I am not expecting anything. We have the governments, central banks, the bank of international settlements and then private financial institutions all woven together and their game relies on keeping this bullshit casino together.

They won't go down without a fight.


The only upside is I need to get my head out of my ass, buckle down and keep buying silver.
 Quoting: canadian dirtlump


Great response - and I agree - eventually, "Mr Market" will win as he always does in the end and the manipulation will end - THEN the true market price will resume, but at the much higher rate that it would be if never manipulated. BOTTOM LINE - buy now while the prices are low.
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
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Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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When national debts have once been accumulated to a certain degree, there is scarce, I believe, a single instance of their having been fairly and completely paid. The liberation of the public revenue, if it has ever been brought about by bankruptcy, sometimes by an avowed one, but always by a real one, though frequently by a pretended payment.
–Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations


Asia is accumulating Gold. Russia is accumulating Gold. "Backward" nations all over the world are accumulating Gold – on both an individual and a government level. While the "developed" world has developed an idea of monetary safety which turns all history on its head, the rest of the world is not going along with them. We’ll leave it to you to decide which are the credulous and which are not.
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
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Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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" . . .we have long held that gold would reach its inflation adjusted high of $2,400/oz and silver its inflation adjusted high at $140/oz and the equivalent in euros, pounds and other fiat currencies. Gold at just over $1,600/oz today remains 33% below its record nominal high in 1980. Silver at just over $28/oz today remains 80% below its record nominal high in 1980. However, we have tended to focus on the important diversification, store of value and safe haven benefits of owning physical gold (and silver) bullion."

[link to www.zerohedge.com]
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
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[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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It's over for the banking cabal.

Watch this video to understand the largest banking corruption scandal in history. These large banks have stolen money from every single human on the planet. Not one person was left out. Not even YOU! Now that it is exposed there is no going back. We will ALL support the "NO MORE BAILOUT" mantra...

[link to youtu.be]

This one will not go away. It was not planned to go away like other "banking scandals". This one will build and build and build until it is known by every man, woman and child on the planet.


The evil vampire banksters have been stabbed in the heart with various stakes in the past few months but this one is by far the largest. (note: the last one will be made of SILVER so be ready for it!)
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
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Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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Here are some salient points on silver in my opinion, which shows its potential as an investment beyond a cataclysmic crash.. there are enough singular positive points about silver that make it attractive to me.

* the above ground supply of silver is relatively small, and it has been being ploughed through for decades leaving things potentially fragile should alot of money move into it.

* The quality of ore is dwindling - in fact something like 60-70% of silver comes as a by product of base metal mining. This could pose issues for future supply.

* The uses of silver are increasing be it medical, electric, or high tech. Be it as an antibacterial, in solar panels, in wiring for cruise missiles - the uses are forever increasing. With medical, the antibacterial properties of silver with the advent of these superbugs will be interesting.

* As a trailer to the above point, silver is often thrown out, while gold is treasured. Most of the silver used in industry is in very small quantities and is gone once used.

* Expanding on the above point - the fact that silver is a small ingredient, the price fluctuations do not effect demand ( i.e if the silver in your iphone is 10 dollars worth, or 50 dollars worth it will be used) especially since there arent' that many good alternatives to silver, where sivler is used.

* The paper trading of silver has been one of the single most successfully and biggest scams in history. To think that all the silver traded on SLV exists is absolutely ridiculous. This has helped keep the price at absurdly low rates.

* The historical gold silver ratio is 16:1 and it is 50 to one+ now. That can't stay that way forever. Either gold is overpriced or silver is underpriced and I know what my bet is.

* Adding to the above point gold and silver in many cases are being bought on a 1 to 1 ratio in terms of dollars. So for every ounce of gold bought, 50 ounces of silver are bought. This can't go on forever without a major supply issue, and price issue.

IT may not happen tomorrow, or next week, or next year, but I have no doubt my wealth is safe, long term, in 1 ounce silver coins.
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Thank you for the above comments - the more folks understanding this issue, the more will buy now - and be thankful later when the manipulation ends.
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
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Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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Hey OP, that was a very good video you posted on Libor.
Really glad you found it and posted it.
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Silver likely to outperform Gold, Copper in Q4 2012: TD Securities

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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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The "Banker Maggots" need to be retired in a more dignified manner.

A 7 foot length of Hemp rope, a painters stool, and a map to the nearest suitable Lamp Post should do it.

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There are no coincidences these days...timing is EVERYTHING!

This is the last part of the Position Limits Rule that has been put off for years. The reason that it has been put off was to allow the markets to continue to function in this manipulated state. But everything is changing and the manipulation is ending. Once the position limits rule is in place the ability to manipulate the silver market will be severely hampered.

It is happening at the perfect time.

Buy your physical Silver NOW!!!

[link to www.cftc.gov]


:Silver Coin:
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


AND WHO IS THA NEW NAME ?? bah

you guys never quit, are you??


anyway .. all this.. tickeets with presidents on them, all this ''''precious'' metals..


SAY GOODBYE ... cuz if you care more for them than for your family - you're straight goner...
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This is all smoke and mirrors just like the hundreds of other similar stories.

The people who make the laws receive money from the people who manipulate the market. They aren't going to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

Our country is for sale to the highest bidder. Get used to your serfdom.
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There are no coincidences these days...timing is EVERYTHING!

This is the last part of the Position Limits Rule that has been put off for years. The reason that it has been put off was to allow the markets to continue to function in this manipulated state. But everything is changing and the manipulation is ending. Once the position limits rule is in place the ability to manipulate the silver market will be severely hampered.

It is happening at the perfect time.

Buy your physical Silver NOW!!!

[link to www.cftc.gov]


:Silver Coin:
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


We are the only species on this planet who pays to live while the rest of all other species lives free. And now some jerk off is telling me that the way to live "the life" is with silver now. What a bunch of morons who buy into this shit...Honestly! How stupid and and low can we go?

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