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Drunken Man Electrocuted to Death on NYC Subway (Video is Graphic) Dont watch if you dont want to see it!

 
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All these enraged replies for the bystanders to "push the cut-off button".

Clearly they didn't know there's a cut-off switch or they would have hit it. I didn't know there was one until reading this thread.

Don't get pissed at folks who obviously wanted to help but didn't know what to do.

I'm glad to know now that such a switch exists and will be looking for it whenever I'm at the subway in case of emergency.

Thanks for pointing that out.
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I've never seen the switch either. You would think it would have huge arrows and multiple languages around it or something to draw attention.
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It doesn't. But each platform has one.
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That video was very disappointing!

You hyped it up as if it was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

The fucker didn’t even catch fire!
Fucking Lame
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All these enraged replies for the bystanders to "push the cut-off button".

Clearly they didn't know there's a cut-off switch or they would have hit it. I didn't know there was one until reading this thread.

Don't get pissed at folks who obviously wanted to help but didn't know what to do.

I'm glad to know now that such a switch exists and will be looking for it whenever I'm at the subway in case of emergency.

Thanks for pointing that out.
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I've never seen the switch either. You would think it would have huge arrows and multiple languages around it or something to draw attention.
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It doesn't. But each platform has one.
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They were probably put in back when transit systems could actually afford staff to know where the thing was and push it.
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thats wrong.

everyone is responsible...

are you saying they are not adults??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19104260


They are adults, but unfortunately they are not accustomed to traumatic situations where they can react while still keeping their heads about them.

The guy simply made his decision. He could have walked to the end of the platform and take the track worker steps up to the platform.

If a psycho is determined to off himself, rule number 1; don't let him take you with him. Goes for jumpers on the bridges, but applies in the subway, too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19122144


What, are you blind?

HE FELL BACKWARDS INTO THE THIRD RAIL.

THIS IS BECAUSE HE WAS TOO DRUNK TO WALK. PROBABLY HOW HE ENDED UP DOWN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

If you've never been drunk enough to have trouble walking, you're either extraordinarily lucky or have lead an extremely dull life.

This was NOT a suicide. Who the fuck stumbles and trips into something on purpose?

And your point is invalid; even if the power cut is only effective for a few minutes, which you've merely speculated here, DID YOU SEE ANYONE TRY? DID YOU SEE IT GO OFF FOR EVEN A MINUTE? Don't be a total dumbass, there is absolutely no reason why one of those gawking witnesses couldn't have run for a cutoff switch, an operator, the intercom, or any of the OTHER expensive shit they put into subways to keep this kind of thing from happening.

There is no excuse for this degree of inaction and sheer uselessness from the witnesses involved, period. Trains have been known to derail on bodies, they're also equally responsible for the lives of the people ON THE NEXT TRAIN.
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I've explained as best I can how most peoples non-reaction in traumatic situations goes.

As for the power off button on the platform, it IS only cut for a few minutes from that switch. It's not speculation. Permanent power has to be cut from a central location, on authority from Police, Fire, EMS, Transit Wokers, etc.

This individual was a homeless psycho, as many of them are, intermittently dangerous, psychotic, etc. Unpredictable.


"Who the fuck stumbles and trips into something on purpose"?

A psycho, which NYC is full of. Has been since they emptied out the insane asylums, decades ago. Now they give them some pills, and throw them back on the street.

Like I said; he made his decision, it's on him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19122144


coming from a German hahaha, doesn't suprise me...we inherited all your psychos after ww2, but anyway so your saying..
A drunk man stumbles and falls
Bystanders stand and watch for several minutes, you know the smell had to be getting to them...yet no one initially cuts power, runs to get authority, or even calls out for help.
And the drunk guy is the psycho?
Riiiiiiight
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Do not touch someone that is being electrocuted lest you want to be electrocuted too. It's better to hit them with a wooden object or something to get them off of whatever is electrocuting them.
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LOL THIS MADE ME PISS MYSELF!!!! '' IT'S BETTER TO HIT THEM WITH A WOODEN OBJECT. your either a genius or you genuinley ment that.
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That video was very disappointing!

You hyped it up as if it was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

The fucker didn’t even catch fire!
Fucking Lame
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All these enraged replies for the bystanders to "push the cut-off button".

Clearly they didn't know there's a cut-off switch or they would have hit it. I didn't know there was one until reading this thread.

Don't get pissed at folks who obviously wanted to help but didn't know what to do.

I'm glad to know now that such a switch exists and will be looking for it whenever I'm at the subway in case of emergency.

Thanks for pointing that out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17119454


I've never seen the switch either. You would think it would have huge arrows and multiple languages around it or something to draw attention.
 Quoting: Candy Corn


It doesn't. But each platform has one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19127552


They were probably put in back when transit systems could actually afford staff to know where the thing was and push it.
 Quoting: Candy Corn


It's there, but no staff are on the platforms.

The thing about the 3rd rail is, it is not constantly flowing with juice. It runs in sections; each section is not constantly on.

This guy just hit it at the moment it certainly was on.

And don't try the "piece of wood" trick, as another poster advised, unless you want your ass knocked back about 20 feet.

Wood isn't a great conductor of electricity, but with enough amps, the juice IS going somewhere.

Once this guy guy touched that rail, forget it, Let the pro's handle it from there.
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WTF, NO SPARKS ? How come he didn't go like Oddjob ? wtf
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Voltage produces sparks and is harmless.

Amperage produces heat and kills.



You can easily be killed with 1.5 volts if the amps are high enough. But you can never be harmed from high voltage as long as the amps are really low.

That drunk was short circuiting enough current to drive a metro-train full of people. The amperage must have been really freaking high. Probably cooked his heart in seconds, he would be instantly paralyzed as the current will short all nerves. His jerking is just the muscles twitching from the circuit failing and reconnecting from the body jolting.
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They are adults, but unfortunately they are not accustomed to traumatic situations where they can react while still keeping their heads about them.

The guy simply made his decision. He could have walked to the end of the platform and take the track worker steps up to the platform.

If a psycho is determined to off himself, rule number 1; don't let him take you with him. Goes for jumpers on the bridges, but applies in the subway, too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19122144


What, are you blind?

HE FELL BACKWARDS INTO THE THIRD RAIL.

THIS IS BECAUSE HE WAS TOO DRUNK TO WALK. PROBABLY HOW HE ENDED UP DOWN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

If you've never been drunk enough to have trouble walking, you're either extraordinarily lucky or have lead an extremely dull life.

This was NOT a suicide. Who the fuck stumbles and trips into something on purpose?

And your point is invalid; even if the power cut is only effective for a few minutes, which you've merely speculated here, DID YOU SEE ANYONE TRY? DID YOU SEE IT GO OFF FOR EVEN A MINUTE? Don't be a total dumbass, there is absolutely no reason why one of those gawking witnesses couldn't have run for a cutoff switch, an operator, the intercom, or any of the OTHER expensive shit they put into subways to keep this kind of thing from happening.

There is no excuse for this degree of inaction and sheer uselessness from the witnesses involved, period. Trains have been known to derail on bodies, they're also equally responsible for the lives of the people ON THE NEXT TRAIN.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044523


I've explained as best I can how most peoples non-reaction in traumatic situations goes.

As for the power off button on the platform, it IS only cut for a few minutes from that switch. It's not speculation. Permanent power has to be cut from a central location, on authority from Police, Fire, EMS, Transit Wokers, etc.

This individual was a homeless psycho, as many of them are, intermittently dangerous, psychotic, etc. Unpredictable.


"Who the fuck stumbles and trips into something on purpose"?

A psycho, which NYC is full of. Has been since they emptied out the insane asylums, decades ago. Now they give them some pills, and throw them back on the street.

Like I said; he made his decision, it's on him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19122144


coming from a German hahaha, doesn't suprise me...we inherited all your psychos after ww2, but anyway so your saying..
A drunk man stumbles and falls
Bystanders stand and watch for several minutes, you know the smell had to be getting to them...yet no one initially cuts power, runs to get authority, or even calls out for help.
And the drunk guy is the psycho?
Riiiiiiight
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14239351


We don't know what byststanders did or didn't try to do, outside of the limited camera scope.

We don't know if he was drunk or on whatever drugs until a toxicology test is done.

We have already established that many people do not know where the off switch is on the platform.

And FYI, most Germans emigrated to the US long before WW2. Just sayin.
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Not ONE of those stupid fucking witnesses went to the power cutoff button, tried the help intercom, or went up to the ticket booths to have someone cut the power?

FUCKING IDIOTS.

Go ahead and say he was drunk/homeless/crazy/whatthefuckever. The point still remains there's a goddamn body on the tracks and shit needs to be shut down.

There's nothing I hate more than useless little shits who just stand around and scream.
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I should have quoted the person who originally said it, but there is no "button" accessible to the public, you think they want every whack job down there shutting down rail lines? Use some common sense people.
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Not ONE of those stupid fucking witnesses went to the power cutoff button, tried the help intercom, or went up to the ticket booths to have someone cut the power?

FUCKING IDIOTS.

Go ahead and say he was drunk/homeless/crazy/whatthefuckever. The point still remains there's a goddamn body on the tracks and shit needs to be shut down.

There's nothing I hate more than useless little shits who just stand around and scream.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044523


I should the public, you think they want every whack job down there shutthave quoted the person who originally said it, but there is no "button" accessible to ing down rail lines? Use some common sense people.
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Yes, there is. On every NYC platform, there is a button, at one end, that cuts power, albeit temporarily.
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What, are you blind?

HE FELL BACKWARDS INTO THE THIRD RAIL.

THIS IS BECAUSE HE WAS TOO DRUNK TO WALK. PROBABLY HOW HE ENDED UP DOWN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

If you've never been drunk enough to have trouble walking, you're either extraordinarily lucky or have lead an extremely dull life.

This was NOT a suicide. Who the fuck stumbles and trips into something on purpose?

And your point is invalid; even if the power cut is only effective for a few minutes, which you've merely speculated here, DID YOU SEE ANYONE TRY? DID YOU SEE IT GO OFF FOR EVEN A MINUTE? Don't be a total dumbass, there is absolutely no reason why one of those gawking witnesses couldn't have run for a cutoff switch, an operator, the intercom, or any of the OTHER expensive shit they put into subways to keep this kind of thing from happening.

There is no excuse for this degree of inaction and sheer uselessness from the witnesses involved, period. Trains have been known to derail on bodies, they're also equally responsible for the lives of the people ON THE NEXT TRAIN.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044523


I've explained as best I can how most peoples non-reaction in traumatic situations goes.

As for the power off button on the platform, it IS only cut for a few minutes from that switch. It's not speculation. Permanent power has to be cut from a central location, on authority from Police, Fire, EMS, Transit Wokers, etc.

This individual was a homeless psycho, as many of them are, intermittently dangerous, psychotic, etc. Unpredictable.


"Who the fuck stumbles and trips into something on purpose"?

A psycho, which NYC is full of. Has been since they emptied out the insane asylums, decades ago. Now they give them some pills, and throw them back on the street.

Like I said; he made his decision, it's on him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19122144


coming from a German hahaha, doesn't suprise me...we inherited all your psychos after ww2, but anyway so your saying..
A drunk man stumbles and falls
Bystanders stand and watch for several minutes, you know the smell had to be getting to them...yet no one initially cuts power, runs to get authority, or even calls out for help.
And the drunk guy is the psycho?
Riiiiiiight
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14239351


We don't know what byststanders did or didn't try to do, outside of the limited camera scope.

We don't know if he was drunk or on whatever drugs until a toxicology test is done.

We have already established that many people do not know where the off switch is on the platform.

And FYI, most Germans emigrated to the US long before WW2. Just sayin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19127552


Well all I'm saying is...if I fall in a river, I hope someone with a little more compassion for human life is there..
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Do not touch someone that is being electrocuted lest you want to be electrocuted too. It's better to hit them with a wooden object or something to get them off of whatever is electrocuting them.
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LOL THIS MADE ME PISS MYSELF!!!! '' IT'S BETTER TO HIT THEM WITH A WOODEN OBJECT. your either a genius or you genuinley ment that.
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Yes, that is what they teach in elementary school, use a wooden broomstick and hit the person, a broomstick is still conductive but not much so you hit the person so you don't end up in the arc. COMMON SENSE.
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Not ONE of those stupid fucking witnesses went to the power cutoff button, tried the help intercom, or went up to the ticket booths to have someone cut the power?

FUCKING IDIOTS.

Go ahead and say he was drunk/homeless/crazy/whatthefuckever. The point still remains there's a goddamn body on the tracks and shit needs to be shut down.

There's nothing I hate more than useless little shits who just stand around and scream.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044523


I should have quoted the person who originally said it, but there is no "button" accessible to the public, you think they want every whack job down there shutting down rail lines? Use some common sense people.
 Quoting: 1nf1del


And this is why people would have no clue it's there. It's absolutley there, as a safety measure, for someone who falls onto the tracks.

Research it if you want.
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I've explained as best I can how most peoples non-reaction in traumatic situations goes.

As for the power off button on the platform, it IS only cut for a few minutes from that switch. It's not speculation. Permanent power has to be cut from a central location, on authority from Police, Fire, EMS, Transit Wokers, etc.

This individual was a homeless psycho, as many of them are, intermittently dangerous, psychotic, etc. Unpredictable.


"Who the fuck stumbles and trips into something on purpose"?

A psycho, which NYC is full of. Has been since they emptied out the insane asylums, decades ago. Now they give them some pills, and throw them back on the street.

Like I said; he made his decision, it's on him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19122144


coming from a German hahaha, doesn't suprise me...we inherited all your psychos after ww2, but anyway so your saying..
A drunk man stumbles and falls
Bystanders stand and watch for several minutes, you know the smell had to be getting to them...yet no one initially cuts power, runs to get authority, or even calls out for help.
And the drunk guy is the psycho?
Riiiiiiight
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14239351


We don't know what byststanders did or didn't try to do, outside of the limited camera scope.

We don't know if he was drunk or on whatever drugs until a toxicology test is done.

We have already established that many people do not know where the off switch is on the platform.

And FYI, most Germans emigrated to the US long before WW2. Just sayin.
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Well all I'm saying is...if I fall in a river, I hope someone with a little more compassion for human life is there..
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You are mistaking my logic as a lack of compassion.
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I've never seen the switch either. You would think it would have huge arrows and multiple languages around it or something to draw attention.
 Quoting: Candy Corn


It doesn't. But each platform has one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19127552


They were probably put in back when transit systems could actually afford staff to know where the thing was and push it.
 Quoting: Candy Corn


It's there, but no staff are on the platforms.

The thing about the 3rd rail is, it is not constantly flowing with juice. It runs in sections; each section is not constantly on.

This guy just hit it at the moment it certainly was on.

And don't try the "piece of wood" trick, as another poster advised, unless you want your ass knocked back about 20 feet.

Wood isn't a great conductor of electricity, but with enough amps, the juice IS going somewhere.

Once this guy guy touched that rail, forget it, Let the pro's handle it from there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19127552


Okay, you need to stop talking because you haven't gotten it right yet, power is constantly running through the third rail, what the hell do you think powers the train? The third rail is connected all over NYC, there is NO shut off "button" accessible to the public.
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Not ONE of those stupid fucking witnesses went to the power cutoff button, tried the help intercom, or went up to the ticket booths to have someone cut the power?

FUCKING IDIOTS.

Go ahead and say he was drunk/homeless/crazy/whatthefuckever. The point still remains there's a goddamn body on the tracks and shit needs to be shut down.

There's nothing I hate more than useless little shits who just stand around and scream.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044523


I should have quoted the person who originally said it, but there is no "button" accessible to the public, you think they want every whack job down there shutting down rail lines? Use some common sense people.
 Quoting: 1nf1del


And this is why people would have no clue it's there. It's absolutley there, as a safety measure, for someone who falls onto the tracks.

Research it if you want.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19127552


Guy, I grew up in Boston riding the subway, I know the NYC subway almost as good as I know the Boston subway, I'VE DONE MY RESEARCH!
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The one who is at fault is the one who became intoxicated. That is just how it is. There are inherit dangers with mind altering substances.

No one else should feel to blame for not finding a shut off switch or jumping in. What I saw was people, rational people watch a guy make a series of terrible acts of judgment.
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It doesn't. But each platform has one.
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They were probably put in back when transit systems could actually afford staff to know where the thing was and push it.
 Quoting: Candy Corn


It's there, but no staff are on the platforms.

The thing about the 3rd rail is, it is not constantly flowing with juice. It runs in sections; each section is not constantly on.

This guy just hit it at the moment it certainly was on.

And don't try the "piece of wood" trick, as another poster advised, unless you want your ass knocked back about 20 feet.

Wood isn't a great conductor of electricity, but with enough amps, the juice IS going somewhere.

Once this guy guy touched that rail, forget it, Let the pro's handle it from there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19127552


Okay, you need to stop talking because you haven't gotten it right yet, power is constantly running through the third rail, what the hell do you think powers the train? The third rail is connected all over NYC, there is NO shut off "button" accessible to the public.
 Quoting: 1nf1del


Each and every subway station has at least one power cutoff button.

Here in Toronto, we have them at either end of the platforms, DWAs (fixed camera'd areas with direct cc and intercom to station management) every 40 feet or so. You slam the intercom button and yell "cut power, man on tracks" and they're trained to do so.

Yes, the subway system is hooked to the grid, but EACH INDIVIDUAL TRACK SECTION can be controlled. What, you don;t think these systems are computerized? They just draw juice and go? NoooOoOooo.

Also, OF COURSE they let just anyone hit the emergency shutoff buttons. They have them in the subway cars too, every 10 goddamn feet, and they're bright yellow. If you hit an emergency stop for ANYTHING but an emergency, they fine you and jail you. That's why every other jackass doesn't do it, because every other jackass would be in jail by now.
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It doesn't. But each platform has one.
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They were probably put in back when transit systems could actually afford staff to know where the thing was and push it.
 Quoting: Candy Corn


It's there, but no staff are on the platforms.

The thing about the 3rd rail is, it is not constantly flowing with juice. It runs in sections; each section is not constantly on.

This guy just hit it at the moment it certainly was on.

And don't try the "piece of wood" trick, as another poster advised, unless you want your ass knocked back about 20 feet.

Wood isn't a great conductor of electricity, but with enough amps, the juice IS going somewhere.

Once this guy guy touched that rail, forget it, Let the pro's handle it from there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19127552


Okay, you need to stop talking because you haven't gotten it right yet, power is constantly running through the third rail, what the hell do you think powers the train? The third rail is connected all over NYC, there is NO shut off "button" accessible to the public.
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No, it is not constantly powered at all times. As I stated, it's sectional; the entire rail is not powered at all times.

What people don't know about the 3rd rail is amazing.
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Not ONE of those stupid fucking witnesses went to the power cutoff button, tried the help intercom, or went up to the ticket booths to have someone cut the power?

FUCKING IDIOTS.

Go ahead and say he was drunk/homeless/crazy/whatthefuckever. The point still remains there's a goddamn body on the tracks and shit needs to be shut down.

There's nothing I hate more than useless little shits who just stand around and scream.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044523


I should have quoted the person who originally said it, but there is no "button" accessible to the public, you think they want every whack job down there shutting down rail lines? Use some common sense people.
 Quoting: 1nf1del


And this is why people would have no clue it's there. It's absolutley there, as a safety measure, for someone who falls onto the tracks.

Research it if you want.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19127552


Guy, I grew up in Boston riding the subway, I know the NYC subway almost as good as I know the Boston subway, I'VE DONE MY RESEARCH!
 Quoting: 1nf1del


Apparently not.
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They were probably put in back when transit systems could actually afford staff to know where the thing was and push it.
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It's there, but no staff are on the platforms.

The thing about the 3rd rail is, it is not constantly flowing with juice. It runs in sections; each section is not constantly on.

This guy just hit it at the moment it certainly was on.

And don't try the "piece of wood" trick, as another poster advised, unless you want your ass knocked back about 20 feet.

Wood isn't a great conductor of electricity, but with enough amps, the juice IS going somewhere.

Once this guy guy touched that rail, forget it, Let the pro's handle it from there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19127552


Okay, you need to stop talking because you haven't gotten it right yet, power is constantly running through the third rail, what the hell do you think powers the train? The third rail is connected all over NYC, there is NO shut off "button" accessible to the public.
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Each and every subway station has at least one power cutoff button.

Here in Toronto, we have them at either end of the platforms, DWAs (fixed camera'd areas with direct cc and intercom to station management) every 40 feet or so. You slam the intercom button and yell "cut power, man on tracks" and they're trained to do so.

Yes, the subway system is hooked to the grid, but EACH INDIVIDUAL TRACK SECTION can be controlled. What, you don;t think these systems are computerized? They just draw juice and go? NoooOoOooo.

Also, OF COURSE they let just anyone hit the emergency shutoff buttons. They have them in the subway cars too, every 10 goddamn feet, and they're bright yellow. If you hit an emergency stop for ANYTHING but an emergency, they fine you and jail you. That's why every other jackass doesn't do it, because every other jackass would be in jail by now.
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Go to fucking NYC, we are not talking about Toronto, NYC is chock-o-block full of hoodlums who don't give a shit, they jump turnstyles and run rampant in the subway, stick to what you know.
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It's there, but no staff are on the platforms.

The thing about the 3rd rail is, it is not constantly flowing with juice. It runs in sections; each section is not constantly on.

This guy just hit it at the moment it certainly was on.

And don't try the "piece of wood" trick, as another poster advised, unless you want your ass knocked back about 20 feet.

Wood isn't a great conductor of electricity, but with enough amps, the juice IS going somewhere.

Once this guy guy touched that rail, forget it, Let the pro's handle it from there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19127552


Okay, you need to stop talking because you haven't gotten it right yet, power is constantly running through the third rail, what the hell do you think powers the train? The third rail is connected all over NYC, there is NO shut off "button" accessible to the public.
 Quoting: 1nf1del


Each and every subway station has at least one power cutoff button.

Here in Toronto, we have them at either end of the platforms, DWAs (fixed camera'd areas with direct cc and intercom to station management) every 40 feet or so. You slam the intercom button and yell "cut power, man on tracks" and they're trained to do so.

Yes, the subway system is hooked to the grid, but EACH INDIVIDUAL TRACK SECTION can be controlled. What, you don;t think these systems are computerized? They just draw juice and go? NoooOoOooo.

Also, OF COURSE they let just anyone hit the emergency shutoff buttons. They have them in the subway cars too, every 10 goddamn feet, and they're bright yellow. If you hit an emergency stop for ANYTHING but an emergency, they fine you and jail you. That's why every other jackass doesn't do it, because every other jackass would be in jail by now.
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Go to fucking NYC, we are not talking about Toronto, NYC is chock-o-block full of hoodlums who don't give a shit, they jump turnstyles and run rampant in the subway, stick to what you know.
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Yes, NYC is full of hoodlums, who do pull the emergency brake inside the train from time to time.

These brakes then have to be reset by the conductor or motorman.
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Okay, you need to stop talking because you haven't gotten it right yet, power is constantly running through the third rail, what the hell do you think powers the train? The third rail is connected all over NYC, there is NO shut off "button" accessible to the public.
 Quoting: 1nf1del


Each and every subway station has at least one power cutoff button.

Here in Toronto, we have them at either end of the platforms, DWAs (fixed camera'd areas with direct cc and intercom to station management) every 40 feet or so. You slam the intercom button and yell "cut power, man on tracks" and they're trained to do so.

Yes, the subway system is hooked to the grid, but EACH INDIVIDUAL TRACK SECTION can be controlled. What, you don;t think these systems are computerized? They just draw juice and go? NoooOoOooo.

Also, OF COURSE they let just anyone hit the emergency shutoff buttons. They have them in the subway cars too, every 10 goddamn feet, and they're bright yellow. If you hit an emergency stop for ANYTHING but an emergency, they fine you and jail you. That's why every other jackass doesn't do it, because every other jackass would be in jail by now.
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Go to fucking NYC, we are not talking about Toronto, NYC is chock-o-block full of hoodlums who don't give a shit, they jump turnstyles and run rampant in the subway, stick to what you know.
 Quoting: 1nf1del


Yes, NYC is full of hoodlums, who do pull the emergency brake inside the train from time to time.

These brakes then have to be reset by the conductor or motorman.
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Here, you can take the word of people who do it for a living.

[link to answers.yahoo.com]

"The third rail is energised at all times, regardless of whether a train is drawing power from it or not. It's not particularly wasteful, the electricity is present but is not being used all the time. It's not dangerous either, as long as you keep away from the tracks.
Track maintenance staff have set procedures to follow when working in electrified areas to ensure their safety; the problem lies with trespassers who have no regard for the law or their own safety by wandering onto the track and getting themselves fried.
Source(s):
Thirty years working on the railway."
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Okay, you need to stop talking because you haven't gotten it right yet, power is constantly running through the third rail, what the hell do you think powers the train? The third rail is connected all over NYC, there is NO shut off "button" accessible to the public.
 Quoting: 1nf1del


Each and every subway station has at least one power cutoff button.

Here in Toronto, we have them at either end of the platforms, DWAs (fixed camera'd areas with direct cc and intercom to station management) every 40 feet or so. You slam the intercom button and yell "cut power, man on tracks" and they're trained to do so.

Yes, the subway system is hooked to the grid, but EACH INDIVIDUAL TRACK SECTION can be controlled. What, you don;t think these systems are computerized? They just draw juice and go? NoooOoOooo.

Also, OF COURSE they let just anyone hit the emergency shutoff buttons. They have them in the subway cars too, every 10 goddamn feet, and they're bright yellow. If you hit an emergency stop for ANYTHING but an emergency, they fine you and jail you. That's why every other jackass doesn't do it, because every other jackass would be in jail by now.
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Go to fucking NYC, we are not talking about Toronto, NYC is chock-o-block full of hoodlums who don't give a shit, they jump turnstyles and run rampant in the subway, stick to what you know.
 Quoting: 1nf1del


Yes, NYC is full of hoodlums, who do pull the emergency brake inside the train from time to time.

These brakes then have to be reset by the conductor or motorman.
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Do you have any clue how metal conducts electricity? How the fuck do they "isolate" one section without it arcing to the next, herp derp!
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Re: Drunken Man Electrocuted to Death on NYC Subway (Video is Graphic) Dont watch if you dont want to see it!
the actions of the people on the platform and the replies in general in this post, show that people dont have a clue about anything.

dumb idiots.

its sad, but thankfully we have events like these to keep the dumb from lasting too long.
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Each and every subway station has at least one power cutoff button.

Here in Toronto, we have them at either end of the platforms, DWAs (fixed camera'd areas with direct cc and intercom to station management) every 40 feet or so. You slam the intercom button and yell "cut power, man on tracks" and they're trained to do so.

Yes, the subway system is hooked to the grid, but EACH INDIVIDUAL TRACK SECTION can be controlled. What, you don;t think these systems are computerized? They just draw juice and go? NoooOoOooo.

Also, OF COURSE they let just anyone hit the emergency shutoff buttons. They have them in the subway cars too, every 10 goddamn feet, and they're bright yellow. If you hit an emergency stop for ANYTHING but an emergency, they fine you and jail you. That's why every other jackass doesn't do it, because every other jackass would be in jail by now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044523


Go to fucking NYC, we are not talking about Toronto, NYC is chock-o-block full of hoodlums who don't give a shit, they jump turnstyles and run rampant in the subway, stick to what you know.
 Quoting: 1nf1del


Yes, NYC is full of hoodlums, who do pull the emergency brake inside the train from time to time.

These brakes then have to be reset by the conductor or motorman.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19127552


Do you have any clue how metal conducts electricity? How the fuck do they "isolate" one section without it arcing to the next, herp derp!
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Each car has an emergency brake; if pulled, the entire train goes BIE (Brakes In Emergency), same as if the train passed a steady red signal.
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Each and every subway station has at least one power cutoff button.

Here in Toronto, we have them at either end of the platforms, DWAs (fixed camera'd areas with direct cc and intercom to station management) every 40 feet or so. You slam the intercom button and yell "cut power, man on tracks" and they're trained to do so.

Yes, the subway system is hooked to the grid, but EACH INDIVIDUAL TRACK SECTION can be controlled. What, you don;t think these systems are computerized? They just draw juice and go? NoooOoOooo.

Also, OF COURSE they let just anyone hit the emergency shutoff buttons. They have them in the subway cars too, every 10 goddamn feet, and they're bright yellow. If you hit an emergency stop for ANYTHING but an emergency, they fine you and jail you. That's why every other jackass doesn't do it, because every other jackass would be in jail by now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044523


Go to fucking NYC, we are not talking about Toronto, NYC is chock-o-block full of hoodlums who don't give a shit, they jump turnstyles and run rampant in the subway, stick to what you know.
 Quoting: 1nf1del


Yes, NYC is full of hoodlums, who do pull the emergency brake inside the train from time to time.

These brakes then have to be reset by the conductor or motorman.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19127552


Do you have any clue how metal conducts electricity? How the fuck do they "isolate" one section without it arcing to the next, herp derp!
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Sections are routinely shut down, without arcing to anything.
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It's there, but no staff are on the platforms.

The thing about the 3rd rail is, it is not constantly flowing with juice. It runs in sections; each section is not constantly on.

This guy just hit it at the moment it certainly was on.

And don't try the "piece of wood" trick, as another poster advised, unless you want your ass knocked back about 20 feet.

Wood isn't a great conductor of electricity, but with enough amps, the juice IS going somewhere.

Once this guy guy touched that rail, forget it, Let the pro's handle it from there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19127552


Okay, you need to stop talking because you haven't gotten it right yet, power is constantly running through the third rail, what the hell do you think powers the train? The third rail is connected all over NYC, there is NO shut off "button" accessible to the public.
 Quoting: 1nf1del


Each and every subway station has at least one power cutoff button.

Here in Toronto, we have them at either end of the platforms, DWAs (fixed camera'd areas with direct cc and intercom to station management) every 40 feet or so. You slam the intercom button and yell "cut power, man on tracks" and they're trained to do so.

Yes, the subway system is hooked to the grid, but EACH INDIVIDUAL TRACK SECTION can be controlled. What, you don;t think these systems are computerized? They just draw juice and go? NoooOoOooo.

Also, OF COURSE they let just anyone hit the emergency shutoff buttons. They have them in the subway cars too, every 10 goddamn feet, and they're bright yellow. If you hit an emergency stop for ANYTHING but an emergency, they fine you and jail you. That's why every other jackass doesn't do it, because every other jackass would be in jail by now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1044523


Go to fucking NYC, we are not talking about Toronto, NYC is chock-o-block full of hoodlums who don't give a shit, they jump turnstyles and run rampant in the subway, stick to what you know.
 Quoting: 1nf1del


WOW, you must really have your head up your ass if you don't know your own subway's safety features.

You have safety intercoms with direct link to a clerk, and train shutoff toggles on all of the subway cars. Each and every employee in a booth can cut the station track power, and I know this because there was a clerk who recently cut track power to keep a man from killing himself.

[link to www.mta.info]

MTA is also the sole authority over power cutoffs on the subway system.

I'm still trying to figure out if you have platform power cutoffs, because I can't find any info either way. Until I do, I maintain some jackass just has to run to the nearest intercom, slam the button, and state the emergency.
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Go to fucking NYC, we are not talking about Toronto, NYC is chock-o-block full of hoodlums who don't give a shit, they jump turnstyles and run rampant in the subway, stick to what you know.
 Quoting: 1nf1del


Yes, NYC is full of hoodlums, who do pull the emergency brake inside the train from time to time.

These brakes then have to be reset by the conductor or motorman.


Do you have any clue how metal conducts electricity? How the fuck do they "isolate" one section without it arcing to the next, herp derp!


Each car has an em
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19127552
brake; if pulled, the entire train goes BIE (Brakes In Emergency), same as if the train passed a steady red signal.



Oh, here you go.

ht
 Quoting: 1nf1del
hamist.com/2009/01/14/little-known_switch_on_subway_platf​.php

"UPDATE: MTA spokesperson Charles Seaton writes, "These switches are loc
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areas that are NOT accessible to subway customers. They are not on the station platform." And they're not accessible to the token booth clerk, either. Seaton declined to elaborate on their exact location, for obvious reasons."


Did you get that? NOT accessible to subway customers! Very interesting, time to concede Kraut! You don't know shit!

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