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It is taught during every family gathering behind closed doors, when bellies are stuffed and mouths are fat and sassy.

It is taught in the racist jokes and loud cackles the joke tellers receive as the youngest play on the floor at the feet of the older generations, while they exhibit deep belly laughs at the crude racist jokes being told.

It is taught, unbeknownst to many, that truly do not realize that those children are listening and watching YOUR behavior.
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I get truly tired of people who claim they aren't racist. Saw a post a minute ago where someone replied and said they weren't racist in any way. Bullshit.

We are all racist at a genetic level, it's built in hard wiring survival instinct. Our ancestors were hunter gatherers. They relied for food on the amount of territory it took to supply their tribe's food needs. Bigger areas were required in harsher climates, smaller areas in food rich environments.

When another tribe invaded their hunting grounds it was about the same as your neighbor walking into your house without knocking and cleaning out your refrigerator to take back to his house. That would piss you off, now wouldn't it?

When a hunter spotted another hunter in his territory, if they were the same race it took a bit of time to sort through whether or not that hunter had a familiar face - unless he was a different race - then the stranger signal was instantaneous.

We still have that genetic coding. It isn't useful in these times and may over several thousands of years disappear, but it is still there right now. We can, with self awareness and training overcome it, and mostly we have at the daily superficial level. But at the base of our survival instinct hard wired genetic code instructions of read only memory it's still alive and kicking.

You're a racist if you have any DNA in your body. It is more accurate to say "I try not to be racist" than it is to say "I'm not a racist."

Deal with the reality, you'll at least be more accurate, and more self aware of where those feelings come from.
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You are right to a degree but people adapt and evolve maybe you should try doing so too.

To me it looks like a lot of people have already. maybe you should join the mass's

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You are making my point. People do evolve, slowly over tens or hundreds of thousands of years. By understanding where racism comes from it can be overcome by rational action. If we don't understand where it comes from, then our efforts are mis-directed and will not work as effectively.
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It's true that you're thinking of a person in a specific way just by seeing it's image.
But you don't have to just give in to this instinct.
Whenever i see a person that i could have prejudices against, i try to think for myself "it's a human i don't know yet, the best way to figure out how he/she "is" is to get to know him"
And then again there are racists who see a person who is for example black, and thinks "i don't want those drugdealer thugs in my town"
So, i guess, no i'm not a racist.
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You say, "deal with it" as if you think it might be a problem. I kind of doubt that people who are racists think of it as something they have to deal with since it's not considered a problem by them.

Now, if you mean to say, "admit it" that's different. It's nearly impossible for people to openly admit they're racist, especially blacks(except for the black panthers).

Hey,since the black panthers are always calling whites pink. Whites should form a racist pink panther group...lol.
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It is a problem. It causes untold grief that is completely unnecessary. It causes society to act inefficiently. It is, in a word, counterproductive. Admit it works as well as deal with it. As long as it is admmited or dealt with rationally and not emotionally.
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I am not racist. Deal with it fuckhead.
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OP is 100% correct. We are all racist to an extent.
Case in point...I have a very good friend who is from West Africa.
I'm white.
Basically we are best friends, twin sons from another mother kinda shit.
He would do anything for me and I would do anything for him.
So we kinda are able to talk about pretty much anything including racism.
One evening while getting a little to buzzed we crossed into the subject of racism.
Here's what we concluded.
Individual relationships and friendships are one thing.
As in him and I would stand up for each other, each others families and our core group of common friends who all live in the same area, do stuff together and share a common interest of keeping our area safe.
Because basically it is like a troop of apes which we as humans/hominids/great apes are.
Outside of this, we agreed we would side with those of our own race if we were separated as a group in a stressful or dangerous situation.
All in all...that's just the way it is. If you don't think you're racist then you're just fooling yourself.
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You say, "deal with it" as if you think it might be a problem. I kind of doubt that people who are racists think of it as something they have to deal with since it's not considered a problem by them.

Now, if you mean to say, "admit it" that's different. It's nearly impossible for people to openly admit they're racist, especially blacks(except for the black panthers).

Hey,since the black panthers are always calling whites pink. Whites should form a racist pink panther group...lol.
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It is a problem. It causes untold grief that is completely unnecessary. It causes society to act inefficiently. It is, in a word, counterproductive. Admit it works as well as deal with it. As long as it is admmited or dealt with rationally and not emotionally.
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Actually it is anti-racism causes grief. Just look at the crime numbers and employement numbers of non-white immigrants into european counrties and you will see, that this mass-immigration has brougth nothing to these countries but it did cost money and lives.
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It is taught during every family gathering behind closed doors, when bellies are stuffed and mouths are fat and sassy.

It is taught in the racist jokes and loud cackles the joke tellers receive as the youngest play on the floor at the feet of the older generations, while they exhibit deep belly laughs at the crude racist jokes being told.

It is taught, unbeknownst to many, that truly do not realize that those children are listening and watching YOUR behavior.
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It is taught. But there is a reason behind why it is, and was, taught in every country and every culture throughout history - when it is an inefficient and counterproductive ideology. There have been many other cultral biases through the ages that came and went because ultimately they were of no use. Yet this one persists everywhere even though it is debilitating.

The reason is biological, and is something that can be overcome with rational thought and action.

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It's true that you're thinking of a person in a specific way just by seeing it's image.
But you don't have to just give in to this instinct.
Whenever i see a person that i could have prejudices against, i try to think for myself "it's a human i don't know yet, the best way to figure out how he/she "is" is to get to know him"
And then again there are racists who see a person who is for example black, and thinks "i don't want those drugdealer thugs in my town"
So, i guess, no i'm not a racist.
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I wouldn't say you're not a racist, but that you are dealing with it rationally.
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It is taught during every family gathering behind closed doors, when bellies are stuffed and mouths are fat and sassy.

It is taught in the racist jokes and loud cackles the joke tellers receive as the youngest play on the floor at the feet of the older generations, while they exhibit deep belly laughs at the crude racist jokes being told.

It is taught, unbeknownst to many, that truly do not realize that those children are listening and watching YOUR behavior.
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Do you have a problem with blacks voting 95% for Obama because he is one of them? Why shouldnt they? Because you think its ouddated?
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The reason is biological, and is something that can be overcome with rational thought and action.
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No it can't. Just as you can not abolish selfish behaviour. Racism can not be unlearned because people like being together with people of their own race.
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Personally I think the worst place racism is breeding is the prison\ Jail systems. You are told by the officers even to stay with your kind. They have all races seperated while they go to eat even walking in a line to the eating facility as well as seperate races in there cells as well. I'm not talking hardcore gang related prisons talking about the farm prisons at lowest security level.
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It is taught during every family gathering behind closed doors, when bellies are stuffed and mouths are fat and sassy.

It is taught in the racist jokes and loud cackles the joke tellers receive as the youngest play on the floor at the feet of the older generations, while they exhibit deep belly laughs at the crude racist jokes being told.

It is taught, unbeknownst to many, that truly do not realize that those children are listening and watching YOUR behavior.
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Do you have a problem with blacks voting 95% for Obama because he is one of them? Why shouldnt they? Because you think its ouddated?
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I have a problem with anyone who votes emotionally instead of logically, yes. I have a problem with voting for a leader based on anything other than a belief in his/her ability to lead in the right direction.
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The reason is biological, and is something that can be overcome with rational thought and action.
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No it can't. Just as you can not abolish selfish behaviour. Racism can not be unlearned because people like being together with people of their own race.
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I disagree that it can't be overcome. There are many examples of it being overcome, many at a personal level, some at an institutional level. We overcome natural instincts on a daily basis. Once they are recognized as inherent and unproductive and deblilitating.
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The reason is biological, and is something that can be overcome with rational thought and action.
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No it can't. Just as you can not abolish selfish behaviour. Racism can not be unlearned because people like being together with people of their own race.
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I disagree that it can't be overcome. There are many examples of it being overcome, many at a personal level, some at an institutional level. We overcome natural instincts on a daily basis. Once they are recognized as inherent and unproductive and deblilitating.
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You would need to abolish personal freedom even more. You would need to enact draconian laws. You would need to create a behemoth bureocracy. In short you would destroy America. And in the end you would still not succeed, because it is genetic.
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Personally I think the worst place racism is breeding is the prison\ Jail systems. You are told by the officers even to stay with your kind. They have all races seperated while they go to eat even walking in a line to the eating facility as well as seperate races in there cells as well. I'm not talking hardcore gang related prisons talking about the farm prisons at lowest security level.
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I think that is a symptom. When people are forced into small spaces agression occurs. When agression occurs tribal instincts are more likely to be relied on for safety - that's why racism occurred in the first place. If the agression instinct didn't appear in those circumstances then I doubt that the racism instinct would be as prominent.
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It's true that you're thinking of a person in a specific way just by seeing it's image.
But you don't have to just give in to this instinct.
Whenever i see a person that i could have prejudices against, i try to think for myself "it's a human i don't know yet, the best way to figure out how he/she "is" is to get to know him"
And then again there are racists who see a person who is for example black, and thinks "i don't want those drugdealer thugs in my town"
So, i guess, no i'm not a racist.
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I wouldn't say you're not a racist, but that you are dealing with it rationally.
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I get your point, but also to add, racism is too small, i would call it a behavior of bias or prejudice. It's not just about race but about judging/thinking about appearance. Doesn't matter if you're a man, woman, black, white, yellow, child, oldtimer. Someone will have prejudices against you, because, just as oyu said, it's in our nature.
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The reason is biological, and is something that can be overcome with rational thought and action.
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No it can't. Just as you can not abolish selfish behaviour. Racism can not be unlearned because people like being together with people of their own race.
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I disagree that it can't be overcome. There are many examples of it being overcome, many at a personal level, some at an institutional level. We overcome natural instincts on a daily basis. Once they are recognized as inherent and unproductive and deblilitating.
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You would need to abolish personal freedom even more. You would need to enact draconian laws. You would need to create a behemoth bureocracy. In short you would destroy America. And in the end you would still not succeed, because it is genetic.
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I wouldn't and don't advocate abolishing personal freedom, I lean heavily towards a libertarian point of view. I believe that ending racism will only happen when individuals become aware of its root cause and choose to act rationally in spite of the root cause. There is a place for laws that prohibit racist actions, but they won't cure the problem. They may or may not ease the symptoms, but they won't be a cure.
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It's true that you're thinking of a person in a specific way just by seeing it's image.
But you don't have to just give in to this instinct.
Whenever i see a person that i could have prejudices against, i try to think for myself "it's a human i don't know yet, the best way to figure out how he/she "is" is to get to know him"
And then again there are racists who see a person who is for example black, and thinks "i don't want those drugdealer thugs in my town"
So, i guess, no i'm not a racist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3110615


I wouldn't say you're not a racist, but that you are dealing with it rationally.
 Quoting: Lloyd Tackitt


I get your point, but also to add, racism is too small, i would call it a behavior of bias or prejudice. It's not just about race but about judging/thinking about appearance. Doesn't matter if you're a man, woman, black, white, yellow, child, oldtimer. Someone will have prejudices against you, because, just as oyu said, it's in our nature.
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I agree with that. Prejudice comes from learned behavior and experience and cultural influences. Pre-judging someone can be productive. It can also be counter productive, but doesn't have a biological hard wired basis. If you have been burnt by five used-car salesman, it would be worse than foolish to not prejudge the sixth one and be wary of his promises. He might or might not be honest, but there is no need to let your guard down. That's a useful form of prejudice.
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It is taught during every family gathering behind closed doors, when bellies are stuffed and mouths are fat and sassy.

It is taught in the racist jokes and loud cackles the joke tellers receive as the youngest play on the floor at the feet of the older generations, while they exhibit deep belly laughs at the crude racist jokes being told.

It is taught, unbeknownst to many, that truly do not realize that those children are listening and watching YOUR behavior.
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Do you have a problem with blacks voting 95% for Obama because he is one of them? Why shouldnt they? Because you think its ouddated?
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I have a problem with anyone who votes emotionally instead of logically, yes. I have a problem with voting for a leader based on anything other than a belief in his/her ability to lead in the right direction.
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There is no mention in the american constitution that you cant be racist. Just because you dont like doesnt mean you have the right to tell anyone what he has to do.
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It's true that you're thinking of a person in a specific way just by seeing it's image.
But you don't have to just give in to this instinct.
Whenever i see a person that i could have prejudices against, i try to think for myself "it's a human i don't know yet, the best way to figure out how he/she "is" is to get to know him"
And then again there are racists who see a person who is for example black, and thinks "i don't want those drugdealer thugs in my town"
So, i guess, no i'm not a racist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3110615


I wouldn't say you're not a racist, but that you are dealing with it rationally.
 Quoting: Lloyd Tackitt


I get your point, but also to add, racism is too small, i would call it a behavior of bias or prejudice. It's not just about race but about judging/thinking about appearance. Doesn't matter if you're a man, woman, black, white, yellow, child, oldtimer. Someone will have prejudices against you, because, just as oyu said, it's in our nature.
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I agree with that. Prejudice comes from learned behavior and experience and cultural influences. Pre-judging someone can be productive. It can also be counter productive, but doesn't have a biological hard wired basis. If you have been burnt by five used-car salesman, it would be worse than foolish to not prejudge the sixth one and be wary of his promises. He might or might not be honest, but there is no need to let your guard down. That's a useful form of prejudice.
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That is why people are prejudiced against blacks, because they have learned.
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You say, "deal with it" as if you think it might be a problem. I kind of doubt that people who are racists think of it as something they have to deal with since it's not considered a problem by them.

Now, if you mean to say, "admit it" that's different. It's nearly impossible for people to openly admit they're racist, especially blacks(except for the black panthers).

Hey,since the black panthers are always calling whites pink. Whites should form a racist pink panther group...lol.
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It is a problem. It causes untold grief that is completely unnecessary. It causes society to act inefficiently. It is, in a word, counterproductive. Admit it works as well as deal with it. As long as it is admmited or dealt with rationally and not emotionally.
 Quoting: Lloyd Tackitt


Actually it is anti-racism causes grief. Just look at the crime numbers and employement numbers of non-white immigrants into european counrties and you will see, that this mass-immigration has brougth nothing to these countries but it did cost money and lives.
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I think that is a cultural phenomenon. There are groups that have higher crime rates than some other groups - but if you look at it I think those are largely learned behaviors based on culture and environment.
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How can I be a racist? I hate everyone equally.
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You say, "deal with it" as if you think it might be a problem. I kind of doubt that people who are racists think of it as something they have to deal with since it's not considered a problem by them.

Now, if you mean to say, "admit it" that's different. It's nearly impossible for people to openly admit they're racist, especially blacks(except for the black panthers).

Hey,since the black panthers are always calling whites pink. Whites should form a racist pink panther group...lol.
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It is a problem. It causes untold grief that is completely unnecessary. It causes society to act inefficiently. It is, in a word, counterproductive. Admit it works as well as deal with it. As long as it is admmited or dealt with rationally and not emotionally.
 Quoting: Lloyd Tackitt


Actually it is anti-racism causes grief. Just look at the crime numbers and employement numbers of non-white immigrants into european counrties and you will see, that this mass-immigration has brougth nothing to these countries but it did cost money and lives.
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I think that is a cultural phenomenon. There are groups that have higher crime rates than some other groups - but if you look at it I think those are largely learned behaviors based on culture and environment.
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Learned behaviour alright.

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It is taught during every family gathering behind closed doors, when bellies are stuffed and mouths are fat and sassy.

It is taught in the racist jokes and loud cackles the joke tellers receive as the youngest play on the floor at the feet of the older generations, while they exhibit deep belly laughs at the crude racist jokes being told.

It is taught, unbeknownst to many, that truly do not realize that those children are listening and watching YOUR behavior.
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Do you have a problem with blacks voting 95% for Obama because he is one of them? Why shouldnt they? Because you think its ouddated?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18988235


I have a problem with anyone who votes emotionally instead of logically, yes. I have a problem with voting for a leader based on anything other than a belief in his/her ability to lead in the right direction.
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There is no mention in the american constitution that you cant be racist. Just because you dont like doesnt mean you have the right to tell anyone what he has to do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18988235


Certainly you have a right to believe anything you want to believe. Racism is however an ineffective and counterproductive belief system. It causes damage to the racist and to the object of his hatred. It's a two edged sword that only cuts and damages.
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I am a racist! Big deal the word has lost its power! I don't give a fuck cause I prefer my own kind so go cry me river.
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It's true that you're thinking of a person in a specific way just by seeing it's image.
But you don't have to just give in to this instinct.
Whenever i see a person that i could have prejudices against, i try to think for myself "it's a human i don't know yet, the best way to figure out how he/she "is" is to get to know him"
And then again there are racists who see a person who is for example black, and thinks "i don't want those drugdealer thugs in my town"
So, i guess, no i'm not a racist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3110615


I wouldn't say you're not a racist, but that you are dealing with it rationally.
 Quoting: Lloyd Tackitt


I get your point, but also to add, racism is too small, i would call it a behavior of bias or prejudice. It's not just about race but about judging/thinking about appearance. Doesn't matter if you're a man, woman, black, white, yellow, child, oldtimer. Someone will have prejudices against you, because, just as oyu said, it's in our nature.
 Quoting: Bendsch


I agree with that. Prejudice comes from learned behavior and experience and cultural influences. Pre-judging someone can be productive. It can also be counter productive, but doesn't have a biological hard wired basis. If you have been burnt by five used-car salesman, it would be worse than foolish to not prejudge the sixth one and be wary of his promises. He might or might not be honest, but there is no need to let your guard down. That's a useful form of prejudice.
 Quoting: Lloyd Tackitt


Well said, some kind of protection, which can be easily related to fear (also a good protection sometimes). So we can see, our former strength and protection is starting to get our worst enemy.

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I wouldn't say you're not a racist, but that you are dealing with it rationally.
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I get your point, but also to add, racism is too small, i would call it a behavior of bias or prejudice. It's not just about race but about judging/thinking about appearance. Doesn't matter if you're a man, woman, black, white, yellow, child, oldtimer. Someone will have prejudices against you, because, just as oyu said, it's in our nature.
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I agree with that. Prejudice comes from learned behavior and experience and cultural influences. Pre-judging someone can be productive. It can also be counter productive, but doesn't have a biological hard wired basis. If you have been burnt by five used-car salesman, it would be worse than foolish to not prejudge the sixth one and be wary of his promises. He might or might not be honest, but there is no need to let your guard down. That's a useful form of prejudice.
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That is why people are prejudiced against blacks, because they have learned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18988235


It doesn't start with learning, it can be reinforced by being taught though. If it was an effective and productive belief system it would make sense to be racist - but it isn't.
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07/05/2012 02:13 PM
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Re: Your'e a Racist, Deal With It
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Do you have a problem with blacks voting 95% for Obama because he is one of them? Why shouldnt they? Because you think its ouddated?
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I have a problem with anyone who votes emotionally instead of logically, yes. I have a problem with voting for a leader based on anything other than a belief in his/her ability to lead in the right direction.
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There is no mention in the american constitution that you cant be racist. Just because you dont like doesnt mean you have the right to tell anyone what he has to do.
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Certainly you have a right to believe anything you want to believe. Racism is however an ineffective and counterproductive belief system. It causes damage to the racist and to the object of his hatred. It's a two edged sword that only cuts and damages.
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If it is ineffective, as you claim, it would lose its power over time. You would not need to do anything.
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I wouldn't say you're not a racist, but that you are dealing with it rationally.
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I get your point, but also to add, racism is too small, i would call it a behavior of bias or prejudice. It's not just about race but about judging/thinking about appearance. Doesn't matter if you're a man, woman, black, white, yellow, child, oldtimer. Someone will have prejudices against you, because, just as oyu said, it's in our nature.
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I agree with that. Prejudice comes from learned behavior and experience and cultural influences. Pre-judging someone can be productive. It can also be counter productive, but doesn't have a biological hard wired basis. If you have been burnt by five used-car salesman, it would be worse than foolish to not prejudge the sixth one and be wary of his promises. He might or might not be honest, but there is no need to let your guard down. That's a useful form of prejudice.
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Well said, some kind of protection, which can be easily related to fear (also a good protection sometimes). So we can see, our former strength and protection is starting to get our worst enemy.
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You think all those negros and turks coming into Austria are benefitting your country?
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07/05/2012 02:16 PM
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I wouldn't say you're not a racist, but that you are dealing with it rationally.
 Quoting: Lloyd Tackitt


I get your point, but also to add, racism is too small, i would call it a behavior of bias or prejudice. It's not just about race but about judging/thinking about appearance. Doesn't matter if you're a man, woman, black, white, yellow, child, oldtimer. Someone will have prejudices against you, because, just as oyu said, it's in our nature.
 Quoting: Bendsch


I agree with that. Prejudice comes from learned behavior and experience and cultural influences. Pre-judging someone can be productive. It can also be counter productive, but doesn't have a biological hard wired basis. If you have been burnt by five used-car salesman, it would be worse than foolish to not prejudge the sixth one and be wary of his promises. He might or might not be honest, but there is no need to let your guard down. That's a useful form of prejudice.
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Well said, some kind of protection, which can be easily related to fear (also a good protection sometimes). So we can see, our former strength and protection is starting to get our worst enemy.
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I agree. Fear is a wonderful survival instinct, perhaps one of the very best components. But, a specific fear that was once valid can become invalid and then become destructive.
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