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Quran is "Latest testament " from God of Adam,Abraham ,David ,Moses ,Jesus and Mohamad ----(Here are some proof)

 
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"No record of Muhammad’s reported death in 632 appears until more than a century after that date.

The early accounts written by the people the Arabs conquered never mention Islam, Muhammad, or the Qur’an. They call the conquerors "Ishmaelites", "Saracens", "Muha- jirun", and "Hagarians", but never "Muslims".

The Arab conquerors, in their coins and inscriptions, don’t mention Islam or the Qur’an for the first six decades of their conquests. Mentions of “Muhammad” are non-specific and on at least two occasions are accompanied by a cross. The word can be used not only as a proper name but also as an honorific.

The Qur’an, even by the canonical Muslim account, was not distributed in its present form until the 650s. Contradicting that standard account is the fact that neither the Arabians nor the Christians and jewish people in the region mention the Qur’an until the early eighth century.

During the reign of the caliph Muawiya (661–680), the Arabs constructed at least one public building whose inscription was headed by a cross – a symbol abhorrent to Islam.

The lack of confirming detail in the historical record, the late development of biographical material about the Islamic prophet, the atmosphere of political and religious factionalism in which that material developed, and much more suggest that the Muhammad of Islamic tradition did not exist."
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This article was written for you OP


In John 8:24 Jesus declared: “For if you should not believe that I am [ego eimi] you will perish in your sins” (lit. trans.).

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Jesus is not GOD
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Jesus Christ is God.
Why would anyone choose to listen to an evil jinn instead of heeding God?
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This article was written for you OP


In John 8:24 Jesus declared: “For if you should not believe that I am [ego eimi] you will perish in your sins” (lit. trans.).

[link to christiandefense.org]
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Jesus is not GOD
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Jesus Christ is God.
Why would anyone choose to listen to an evil jinn instead of heeding God?
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Muslims also believe Jesus never died on a cross.
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Muhammad was a terrorist to the bitter end. Tabari IX:166 "The Prophet ordered the expedition of Usamah, but it did not go well because of his illness and because two other Arabs had proclaimed themselves prophets and renounced his authority. The Prophet's head was wrapped around because of the pain."
Superstitious, and a believer in occult spells, Muhammad tried to cure himself by going to a magic spring. When that proved insufficient, he blew knots out of a tangle, something that sorcerers practiced as part of their black arts. Desperate, he tried praying to Allah, but needless to say, he only got sicker. Allah had never answered prayers to keep folks alive, only to kill them.
This prophet's fixation on Satan and his demonic cast of killer angels tells us a great deal about the nature of the man who invented Islam. Many if not all of these Hadith, were revealed during the waning days of his life as he struggled vainly to cheat death. Bukhari:V4B54N491 "Allah’s Apostle said, 'While you sleep, Satan ties three knots at the back of your head. He blows the following words at each knot, "The night is long so keep sleeping. If that person wakes up and praises Allah, then one knot is undone. When he performs ablution the second is undone. When he prays, all the knots are undone, and he gets up in the morning lively and gay, otherwise he is dull and gloomy.'" Satan’s ugly spirit permeates this hideous cult. But I assure you, Satan cannot, and does not, do these things. All he can do is play havoc with weather and men's minds. He, like Allah, is otherwise impotent.
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
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Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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Jesus taught that we should love our neighbors, but the Quran teaches to murder your enemies.
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yeah im pretty sure satan backs islam and its whole you can have sex with your wife up to six hours after she dies, that you can kill your wife, rape boys, kill all other races and pretty much be human trash in every way if god wills it.. might as well come out and worship a demon, mohammade was either possesed by the devil or hated jewish people and christians enought to copy them and try to kill them, he was a false prophet who should have been stoned to death.
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Muhammad believed in magic spells. He sought cures identical to the remedies prescribed by the occultists of his day. As you read this angelic encounter, keep in mind that this is how Muhammad alleges the Qur'an was revealed to him. Bukhari:V7B71N660 "Magic was worked on Allah’s Apostle so that he used to think that he had sexual relations with his wives while he actually had not. [Apparently, Muhammad had become like his god in yet another way.] That is the hardest kind of magic as it has such an effect. One day he said, 'O Aisha, do you know that Allah has instructed me concerning the matter I asked Him about [impotence]? Two men came to me and one of them sat near my head and the other near my feet.
The one asked, "What is wrong with this man?" "He is under the effect of magic." "Who cast the magic spell on him?" "Labid, an Arab ally of the jewish people and a hypocrite." "What material did he use to cast the spell?" "A comb with hair stuck to it." "Where is that comb and hair?" "In a skin of pollen of a male palm tree kept under a stone in the well of Dharwan..' So the Prophet went to that well and took out those things, saying, 'That was the well shown to me in the dream. Its water looked red and its palms looked like the heads of devils. My companions removed those things.' I said, 'Why didn't you just treat yourself.' He said, 'Allah has cured me, and I don't want to spread evil among my people.'" Well, it's a little late for that now. And the evil spell that possessed the prophet was not cured by Allah. He will died soon thereafter.
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The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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I am curious to know what the OP or the readers of this forum think about the Satanic verses and the fact that Muslims are not allowed to ask what is in the Kaaba - the big black cube that Muslims pilgrimage to for prayer.
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A similar Bukhari Hadith confirms that Muhammad was possessed by evil, that he was a fraud who believed in magic spells, and that his spiritual understanding and medical prowess rendered him more voodoo witchdoctor than prophet. Bukhari:V7B71N661 "Magic was worked on Allah’s Apostle so that he began to imagine he had done something although he had not. While he was with me, he invoked Allah for a long period and then said, 'Aisha! Do you know what Allah has instructed me to do regarding the matter I asked Him about.' 'What is that.' He said, 'Two men came to me. One said, "What is the disease of this man?" The other replied, "He is under the effect of magic." "Who has worked magic on him?" "Labid, a jewish from the Zuraiq tribe."'" By saying that his "disease" was spiritual, not biological, Muhammad became a witchdoctor. By contradicting himself and saying that the perpetrator was a jewish, rather than a Muslim hypocrite, he demonstrated that he couldn't be trusted.
Background of my avatar: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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Islam and Muhammad( [link to www.youtube.com] worth a watch.
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"Jihad," "holy fighting," or "Allah's Cause," is spoken of in the Hadith as follows: "Allah's Apostle dictated the Divine Verse: 'Not equal are those unbelievers who sit at home and those who strive hard, fighting in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and lives.'" (Bukhari V4B52N85) . The Qur'an says, "Zaid said, 'Maktum came to the Prophet while he was reciting that verse. On that Maktum said, "O Allah's Apostle! If I had power, I would take part in Jihad." He was a blind man. So Allah sent down revelation to His Apostle ... "Except those who are disabled by injury or are blind or lame."'" (Qur'an 004:095) If jihad is a spiritual struggle as many claim it to be, then why would Allah grant the physically disabled an exemption? The verse goes on to say, "Not equal are those believers who sit at home and receive no injurious hurt, and those who strive hard [Jihad] fighting in the Cause of Allah, fighting with their wealth and bodies to those who sit (at home)."
Another Hadith says, "The Prophet said, "By Him in Whose Hands my life is! Were it not for the believers who do not want me to leave them, I would certainly and always go forth in army-units setting out for Jihad. I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and get martyred again only to be resurrected so that I could get martyred once more.'" (Bukhari V4B52N54)

Furthermore, in the "Book of Jihad," Bukhari provides us with this explanation: "Jihad is holy fighting in Allah's Cause with full force of weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its Pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah is made superior and He becomes the only God who may be worshiped. By Jihad Islam is propagated and made superior. By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position. Their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, and Muslim rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape this duty, or does not fervently fulfill this obligation, dies as a hypocrite." The 150 Hadiths that follow this definition all speak of fighting; none suggest a spiritual struggle.
Background of my avatar: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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Back in Medina, and in the presence of the prophet, the Emigrants weren't ready to let Abdallah Ubayy's outburst drop. They wanted blood. Tabari VIII:53 "Abdallah said, 'Those who are stronger will drive out the weaker from Medina.' But you, O Messenger of Allah, will drive him out if you wish. He is the weak one, and you are the strong one. Allah caused you to arrive at the moment when his people were stringing precious stones to make him a crown; he thinks that you deprived him of a kingdom.'" Ishaq:491 "Umar said, 'Tell someone to go kill him.' The Apostle answered, 'But what will men say about me if I start killing Muslims?'"
A young recruit must have rushed in: Tabari VIII:55/Ishaq:492 "'Messenger of Allah, I have been told that you want to kill Abdallah bin Ubayy. If you are going to do it; command me and I will bring you his head. I will kill a believer to avenge an unbeliever, and thereby enter the Fire of Hell.' The Prophet said, 'No.' Thus after that day it was his own tribesmen who censured him and threatened him. When word of how they were behaving reached Muhammad, he said to Umar, 'What do you think, Umar? Had I killed him the day you ordered me to, prominent men would have been upset, who, if I ordered them today to kill him, would do so.'" Muhammad was evil, not stupid.

Other than prostrating oneself in submission, paying the zakat, and fighting Jihad, Muslims have never had a way to determine who really was one. Even Muhammad couldn't tell. Tabari VIII:55 "Miqyas came from Mecca, pretending to have become a Muslim, and said, 'Muhammad, I have come to you as a Muslim to seek blood money for my brother who was killed by mistake.' The Prophet ordered him to be paid blood money for his brother and he stayed briefly with Muhammad. Then he attacked his brother's slayer, killing him. He left for Mecca as an apostate." According to Islam, an apostate endures hell's hottest flames. So it's okay to kill and good to accept booty for killing, but only if Allah is credited with the murder.

This Hadith is especially revealing: Ishaq:485 "'O Apostle, I will accept Islam and give you my allegiance on the condition that my past faults are forgiven and no mention is made of what has gone before.' Allah's Messenger said, 'Give your allegiance, for Islam does away with all that preceded it, as does the Hijrah [Muhammad's shameful flight from Mecca].'" Muhammad proudly announced, and Ishaq dutifully recorded, words that should send shivers up the spine of every non-Muslim. The "religion" of Islam, the feeble and demented doctrine that emerged before the terrorist raids, before piracy, kidnapping, the slave trade, and mass murder, was no more. All that preceded the Hijrah had been abrogated. All that remained of the poligious doctrine now was vice, villainy, and violence.
Background of my avatar: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
[link to www.cspipublishing.com]
[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
[link to www.fatherzakaria.net]

Ecclesiastes 10:2 “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.”

We are all born ignorant, but it takes a lot of work to keep looking the other way to remain stupid.

Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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I am curious to know what the OP or the readers of this forum think about the Satanic verses and the fact that Muslims are not allowed to ask what is in the Kaaba - the big black cube that Muslims pilgrimage to for prayer.
 Quoting: jpsolas


To me it helped showed Muslims narrow mindedness for wanting to have the author of the "Satanic verses" killed:

"Blasphemy law also exists in Koran as Koranic verses 9:64-66 say that any Muslim mocking or questioning, or even doubting, Mohammad, his prophet-hood, Allah and verses in Koran amounts to reverting to disbelief from belief in Islam. That is, such Muslims are declared apostates and punishment for apostasy is death penalty.

It is based on these primary sources (Koran and Deeds of Mohammad i.e. Sunna) that Sharia Law describes what is blasphemy and prescribes death penalty as punishment for it (one can read about sharia law on blasphemy from here; chapter 8 and section 7 (o8.7) for Muslims; Chapter 11 and section 10 (o11.10), clause 5 for Non Muslims.). All four major schools of Sunni Islam support death penalty for blasphemy and also hold the view that apostates must be killed. Shia branch of Islam also supports this blasphemy law; all one has to do is to recall famous fatwa on writer Salman Rushdie for writing novel,Satanic Verses, by father of Iranian Islamic revolution, Ruhollah Khomeini."
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Also why was Muhammad depressed and tormented during his life. It's reported that he tried to kill himself on a number of occasions. WHY did an angel called Gabriel strangle Muhammad and command him to take this message back to the people. The Satanic verses prove at the very least that Muhammad could be and was deceived by Satan because he believed the angel. Muslims say that when he was first in the cave it was Gabriel but when he went back the second time it was Satan...couldn't he tell the difference.

Finally, IF hypothetically speaking, the Bible IS the word of God and IF Christ is the only way to reach God, then all Satan has to do is distract people from this narrow truth. He can even give 99% truth, for all appearances sake it will seem spiritual, and it is, but not necessarily of God if you get me. Islam and Christianity have a LOT in common. Jesus is the most quoted prophet in the Koran, why? The big difference, the deal breaker between the two faiths, is that Muslims do not believe Jesus died on the cross, that he was not resurrected after death - and this point cannot be reconciled between the two peoples because the Christian faith depends upon this being true.
So, going back to my first point - If Jesus is the Way to God we can see that Islam could quite readily share so many similarities so long as it denies the divinity of Christ. This cannot be ignored as the difference is so stark it outweighs the similarities. The whole claim rests on the 'bible being changed' over the years, which no historian or theological scholar will accept as being true.

Was the Bible changed by the Illuminati?: [link to www.youtube.com]
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The Quran....keeping the sand negros down. Make em feel all special and crap like they are anything more than Jawas and then enslaving with a book.

Familiar story eh? they made a setup and book for everyone so they could all feel special and crap.
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Jesus is not GOD


You see this is the problem. This divide, created by the chief divider Satan, will probably be the cause of war in the future. Muslims are taught that Jesus did not die on cross and Christ therefore was not justified in the resurrection.

For Christians the resurrection is the validation of the claims Jesus made while alive. He said he was the Son of God, we are all children of God but he was the only begotten son. The things he said where akin to the ramblings of a mad man if what he was saying isn't true. As C.S.Lewis said he was either a madman, a liar or the devil himself - but nobody who reads His message thinks that he was any of these things - even Muslims who affectionately refer to him as Iosa - the same word for Jesus in Irish. Muslims know and believe that Jesus was a very special Prophet, they believe in Mary's virginity BUT then reduce Christ, they diminish his divinity by saying 'actually he wasn't what he said he was - the Son of the Living God who has come to call His people home.

You know Christ is special but you deny just how special he really was, you diminish his Holiness and Divinity and fall for the snares of Satan. Its easy, all he has to do is get people to believe Christ wasn't what or who he said he was. To quote another
In John 8:24 Jesus declared: “For if you should not believe that I AM [edit: which is the name God used when Moses asked the burning bush] you will perish in your sins”
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then all Satan has to do is distract people from this narrow truth. He can even give 99% truth, for all appearances sake it will seem spiritual, and it is, but not necessarily of God if you get me.
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You are exactly right, and this is what Satan has been and is using. Google "Satan counterfeit kingdom."
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Jesus is not GOD


You see this is the problem. This divide, created by the chief divider Satan, will probably be the cause of war in the future. Muslims are taught that Jesus did not die on cross and Christ therefore was not justified in the resurrection.

For Christians the resurrection is the validation of the claims Jesus made while alive. He said he was the Son of God, we are all children of God but he was the only begotten son. The things he said where akin to the ramblings of a mad man if what he was saying isn't true. As C.S.Lewis said he was either a madman, a liar or the devil himself - but nobody who reads His message thinks that he was any of these things - even Muslims who affectionately refer to him as Iosa - the same word for Jesus in Irish. Muslims know and believe that Jesus was a very special Prophet, they believe in Mary's virginity BUT then reduce Christ, they diminish his divinity by saying 'actually he wasn't what he said he was - the Son of the Living God who has come to call His people home.

You know Christ is special but you deny just how special he really was, you diminish his Holiness and Divinity and fall for the snares of Satan. Its easy, all he has to do is get people to believe Christ wasn't what or who he said he was. To quote another
In John 8:24 Jesus declared: “For if you should not believe that I AM [edit: which is the name God used when Moses asked the burning bush] you will perish in your sins”


Jesus IS the Son of God and therefore a God himself. Deal with it or be thrown into the lake of fire.
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"Magic was worked on Allah’s Apostle so that he used to think that he had sexual relations with his wives while he actually had not.
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This describes an attack by succubus/incubus spirits or a lilith spirit. People describe this even today although they usually describe it with modern terminology - we call them UFO abductions right? Also it's common for people to report sensations like this when they experience sleep paralysis. But another example of Muhammads connections to demonolgy and magick - nothing but the same Babylonian mysteries veiled as a God fearing religion. I think on the whole Muslims are good, if not great people, I have many Muslim friends and we discuss religion quite often - the guys I know are all decent, honest salt of the earth type people, good friends. But it saddens me because when I look at the Arab people I see a beautiful God-loving people sidetracked away from the Truth of Salvation offered by God through a Messiah in Christ.

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Jesus is not GOD
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Jesus IS the Son of God and therefore a God himself. Deal with it or be thrown into the lake of fire.



The first part was meant to be quote from the OP - the rest of it I think makes it clear i'm on the same page as you. I said Jesus is the only begotten son of God, meaning of God and God Himself. Half man and half divine - the perfect mediator for a fallen man to reach a God we can never fully understand as mere men.
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The Quran is a pile of excrement, and Mohammad the dog is its prophet.
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I am curious to know what the OP or the readers of this forum think about the Satanic verses and the fact that Muslims are not allowed to ask what is in the Kaaba - the big black cube that Muslims pilgrimage to for prayer.
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To me it helped showed Muslims narrow mindedness for wanting to have the author of the "Satanic verses" killed:
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This is quite true, but IF Islam is the true religion of God as believed by Muslims - they would be justified in issuing a Fatwa on Salman Rushdie (the author you mentioned who wrote the satanic verses, as far as I know a fiction novel) as the Quran calls for this. BUT what does it mean for the legitimacy of Islam as the true religion IF the prophet could be deceived by Satan...an issue so difficult most Muslims won't touch it with a 10ft barge pole.
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Bible says about women. The following Verses are from the NIV Bible:

Exodus 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery."

Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."

Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."

Proverbs 6:32 "But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself." He destroys himself by being put to death as shown above.

Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." Why should only a daughter of a priest gets burnt to death if she profanes herself? Why can't this law apply to all daughters?

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity." This doesn't make any sense what so ever! Why should the woman get her hands cut off for defending her husband? It's not like she was cheating on him or anything like that!
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Typical! Selectively quoting the OLD Testament and ignoring the NEW - The Bible teaches: Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with [their wife] according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.
And don't forget Jesus first appeared to women after the resurrection, even though women clearly weren't the most reliable witnesses in those days - which shows two things 1) Jesus loved and respected women and he taught men to honor their wife, 2) in answer to some claims that the apostles made up the story of resurrection having smuggled Jesus away so he could secretly marry Mary Magdalene and have children - if this was so wouldn't they have made up a story which had better witnesses than two women. Aaanyway, in contrast to this the Koran calls men ". . . As to those women on whose part you fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them, refuse to share their beds, and beat them." (4:34)
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Bible says about women. The following Verses are from the NIV Bible:

Exodus 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery."

Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."

Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."

Proverbs 6:32 "But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself." He destroys himself by being put to death as shown above.

Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." Why should only a daughter of a priest gets burnt to death if she profanes herself? Why can't this law apply to all daughters?

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity." This doesn't make any sense what so ever! Why should the woman get her hands cut off for defending her husband? It's not like she was cheating on him or anything like that!
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Typical! Selectively quoting the OLD Testament and ignoring the NEW
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Yep, I find Muslims will do this, and ignore the new covenant given by Jesus. Which explains why Christians aren't killing adulterers, like the Muslims will still currently do, by punishing / killing them (by lashes / stoning) in an Islamic country.
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 Quoting: No Dhimmi


Bible says about women. The following Verses are from the NIV Bible:

Exodus 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery."

Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."

Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."

Proverbs 6:32 "But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself." He destroys himself by being put to death as shown above.

Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." Why should only a daughter of a priest gets burnt to death if she profanes herself? Why can't this law apply to all daughters?

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity." This doesn't make any sense what so ever! Why should the woman get her hands cut off for defending her husband? It's not like she was cheating on him or anything like that!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2303764


Typical! Selectively quoting the OLD Testament and ignoring the NEW
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Yep, I find Muslims will do this, and ignore the new covenant given by Jesus. Which explains why Christians aren't killing adulterers, like the Muslims will still currently do, by punishing / killing them (by lashes / stoning) in an Islamic country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19172337


Bible is much more harsher on women ----The following Verses are from the NIV Bible:

Exodus 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery."

Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."

Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."

Proverbs 6:32 "But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself." He destroys himself by being put to death as shown above.

Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." Why should only a daughter of a priest gets burnt to death if she profanes herself? Why can't this law apply to all daughters?

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity." This doesn't make any sense what so ever! Why should the woman get her hands cut off for defending her husband? It's not like she was cheating on him or anything like that!
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Here is proof science and Quran [link to m.youtube.com]
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Bible says about women. The following Verses are from the NIV Bible:

Exodus 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery."

Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."

Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."

Proverbs 6:32 "But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself." He destroys himself by being put to death as shown above.

Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." Why should only a daughter of a priest gets burnt to death if she profanes herself? Why can't this law apply to all daughters?

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity." This doesn't make any sense what so ever! Why should the woman get her hands cut off for defending her husband? It's not like she was cheating on him or anything like that!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2303764


Typical! Selectively quoting the OLD Testament and ignoring the NEW
 Quoting: jpsolas


Yep, I find Muslims will do this, and ignore the new covenant given by Jesus. Which explains why Christians aren't killing adulterers, like the Muslims will still currently do, by punishing / killing them (by lashes / stoning) in an Islamic country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19172337


Don't tell me that u following bible if your mother ,daughter and wife are not following this message from bible. << 1 Corinthians 11:6 >>

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If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head.
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I read the Quran and the KJV Bible.
I will then read the Torah next.
Whenever you decide to read and gather all intel from all 3 books and then some, the more you will become whole.
I can not wait until Science and Religion become entwined.
My parents use to be Catholic and decided to become Christian for some reasons.
They are die hard Christians and it is hard to have conversations about other things because of their belief.
Allah and God is the same entity and if you think that Islam and the Quran is about killing and murdering, then wth was up with the Crusaders, templers and all the folks who called their wives or neighbors wives witches and burned them in THE NAME OF GOD.
Every "religion" has radicals / terrorists but Christians are still top of being terrorists if you account ALL that has been slained in His-Story. Before you make judgement, read all books and then some. Open your mind. I cant stress enough that most folks are lead blindly and go by here say. I am reading the Quran now and I am in no way a Muslim nor am I any religion. I have a foundation of Christianity however I also am not dubious to other information let alone I do not ignore science as well.
I have my faith and I believe in God and i also believe in facts to prove or disprove. I am becoming much more humble than I use to be because I have opened up my heart and mind to other possibilities. And for those whom say God / Jesus are about love, then re-red Matthew. Jesus goes gangster.
I assure you, all the texts from the 3 holy books are vital and similar. God has given us 3 messages in 3 different ways to live as humans, OUR GUIDELINES. Yet we point blame and are segregated because of simpletons or by design. 3 times God has sent his word in different illustrations for our way of being. Honestly, folks whom think Islam is bad and they did not care for Jesus, then you should look into the mirror and claim yourself a hypocrite and a radical terrorist for you are speaking and believing in ILL WILL MANNER in the name of God / Allah / Dios. Same name same God.

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