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So can the scientifically literate explain a bit of the implications of the Higgs Boson in layman terms?

 
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So can the scientifically literate explain a bit of the implications of the Higgs Boson in layman terms?
Yeah, what's to expect?
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Good question OP, I was wondering this too all day with the news on this everywhere. Is it just me or does nobody really say or explain on the news what that really means?
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Yeah, no pinned threads about it either. I know there's some big brains in GLP, there should be some discussion, I'd read it surely (doubt about participating LOL)
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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Re: So can the scientifically literate explain a bit of the implications of the Higgs Boson in layman terms?
here you go, I already explained this once today the best I can anyway.

It's also the God Particle stuff.

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Re: So can the scientifically literate explain a bit of the implications of the Higgs Boson in layman terms?
here you go, I already explained this once today the best I can anyway.

It's also the God Particle stuff.

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I'll check it out thanks!
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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Re: So can the scientifically literate explain a bit of the implications of the Higgs Boson in layman terms?
It is like a UFO, hypothetical until you have one in your garage, even then it will never see the light of day... images are not acceptable...

So it is with this hypothetical particle - you need to have one captured else it remains hypothetical.

How does one know what to build hypothetically to confirm something hypothetical?

The marvel of the particle adventure is the ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT person who drew up the business case, got it approved and funded. That person should be running a BIG country or something.

Imagine the board meeting! Think Monty Python skit....

You say you need how much.... It does what?... you get the drift.
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Yeah, what's to expect?
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abomb

It takes no Einstein to figure out where this civilization is heading. They are gonna make Atlantis looking like fireworks.
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Re: So can the scientifically literate explain a bit of the implications of the Higgs Boson in layman terms?
This kinda worked for me:

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Yeah, what's to expect?
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abomb

It takes no Einstein to figure out where this civilization is heading. They are gonna make Atlantis looking like fireworks.
"Do or do not. There is no try." (Yoda)
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Yeah, what's to expect?
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abomb

It takes no Einstein to figure out where this civilization is heading. They are gonna make Atlantis looking like fireworks.
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chuckle
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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Re: So can the scientifically literate explain a bit of the implications of the Higgs Boson in layman terms?
Imagine if there was a field of energy that decided the nature of all things, well OK just giving all elementary particles their mass. Essentially this field controls everything that comes into existence (has mass).

Well imagine no longer - scary or exciting shit, take your pick.
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Re: So can the scientifically literate explain a bit of the implications of the Higgs Boson in layman terms?
i think its one of those things you need a physics degree to really understand. and even then its probably difficult.
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i think its one of those things you need a physics degree to really understand. and even then its probably difficult.
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I am sure David Fraudcock or one of those folks will have an easier and more positive explanation, only at the cost of a small fee devil
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-- Dixon Diaz
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Bosons are force carriers.
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It has implications for antigravity and for time travel.

And that's just for starters. The CERN LHC cost alot of nations a gargantuan shitload of money, and you can be sure that they were given some very good reasons why they should expect a high-value practical return on their investments.
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Re: So can the scientifically literate explain a bit of the implications of the Higgs Boson in layman terms?
It simply proves a theory of the standard model of physics. See how far science will go to prove a theory? Let me know when billions are spent to prove the theory of God's existence.
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Re: So can the scientifically literate explain a bit of the implications of the Higgs Boson in layman terms?
Yeah, no pinned threads about it either. I know there's some big brains in GLP, there should be some discussion, I'd read it surely (doubt about participating LOL)
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Higgs Boson is a particle that has interacted with part of the syrup of the quantum fluff. Massless particles gain their mass by interacting with the syrup of the quantum fluff. The question of searching for the Higgs Boson is to find evidence that the 'Standard Model' of particle physics is correct. As they have discovered a new particle with tiny mass, they say they've found evidence for the quantum fluff.

"Produced in the collision of high energy protons at the foot of the Jura mountains, the new particle has a mass of roughly 125 "giga-electronvolts" and has been seen to decay into a variety of other particles, with the pattern of these decay products being broadly consistent with the precisely calculated signatures of the Higgs."

Much ballyhooed as the "God Particle" I think it rather more of another step down as there is the suggestion of alternative Higgs bosons and then, I would suspect, comes flavors of families of them in time.

The foundation of matter is light. Matter is nothing more than slow light.

E = mc2

Einstein had this nearly 100 years ago, now.

The Bible says "God is Light and in Him is no darkness at all."

The Bible says, "In the beginning, God said, let there be light, and there was."

It is elemental, really. The Higgs boson is not a God particle at all -- just another step down in the long staircase into the microworld. To discover the Higgs boson, one could also look up, to the macroworld. There are strings of galaxies in even larger formations and then strings of these larger formations into even larger formations. At the extreme of the macro is the multiverse. At the extreme of the micro is light.

The multiverse is the light.

God is omniscient; God is omnipresent; God is eternal.

I hope this helps you to get a flavor of what the Higgs boson is about.
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A Higgs boson walks into a church.

"We don't allow Higgs bosons in here!" shouts the priest.

"But without me, how can you have mass?" asks the particle.
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Oh, too:

E = mc2

Therefore

c2 = E/m

Therefore

(E/m)/c2 = 1

Therefore

m = E/c2

Therefore

m2 = E2/c

Therefore

m = Sqrt(E)/c

So, mass is the square root of energy divided by the speed of light.

As energy increases logarithmically, mass increases linearly.

There are many corollaries and axioms that could be derived from the above solutions.

But here is the BOTTOM LINE:

Mass is a function of acceleration; it is a ghost concept; it is an illusion of acceleration.
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A Higgs boson walks into a church.

"We don't allow Higgs bosons in here!" shouts the priest.

"But without me, how can you have mass?" asks the particle.
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lmao
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A Higgs boson walks into a church.

"We don't allow Higgs bosons in here!" shouts the priest.

"But without me, how can you have mass?" asks the particle.
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lmao
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Bwhaha.
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more doom coming
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Re: So can the scientifically literate explain a bit of the implications of the Higgs Boson in layman terms?
Oh, too:

E = mc2

Therefore

c2 = E/m

Therefore

(E/m)/c2 = 1

Therefore

m = E/c2

Therefore

m2 = E2/c

Therefore

m = Sqrt(E)/c

So, mass is the square root of energy divided by the speed of light.

As energy increases logarithmically, mass increases linearly.

There are many corollaries and axioms that could be derived from the above solutions.

But here is the BOTTOM LINE:

Mass is a function of acceleration; it is a ghost concept; it is an illusion of acceleration.
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wtf

I see that you failed math.

E=Mc^2 , or

M=E/c^2 , squaring both sides is simply...

M^2=(E/c^2)^2 , taking the root of both sides simply returns you to the previous...

M=E/c^2 , or the original

E=Mc^2

Which means are totally full of it
bsflagbsflagbsflag
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Re: So can the scientifically literate explain a bit of the implications of the Higgs Boson in layman terms?
Oh, too:

E = mc2

Therefore

c2 = E/m

Therefore

(E/m)/c2 = 1

Therefore

m = E/c2

Therefore

m2 = E2/c

Therefore

m = Sqrt(E)/c
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Why would you go to all that trouble to get it wrong?

E = m * c^2

so therefore:

m = E / (c^2)
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Therefore

m = E/c2

Therefore

m2 = E2/c

Therefore

m = Sqrt(E)/c


Your math is wrong here.

If: m=E/(c^2)
Then: m^2=(E^2)/(c^4)
Then: m=sqrt( (E^2)/(c^4)
Then: m= E/(c^2)

That is the proper answer. The same thing you started with
If you square something then take the square root of it, you get the same answer, not something else.

To get the right side equal to sqrt(E)/c, you have to also take the square root of the left side. So in your third step, it should be sqrt (m)= sqrt(E)/c
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One of the most important implications that so far nobody has publicly discussed is that empty space is full of staggering amounts of energy. The energy is a field effect, the Higgs Field, and the Higgs boson is just a temporary manifestation of the field they were looking for evidence of the existence of this field.
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Re: So can the scientifically literate explain a bit of the implications of the Higgs Boson in layman terms?
To answer the OP's question, the implications of the Higgs Boson are:

We have effectively proved the Standard Model of physics, which is long, complicated, and look it up on Wiki if you want an answer. I won't summarize it here.

The Higgs Boson was the last undiscovered particle in the Standard Model. Other particles include leptons, quarks, electrons, photons, etc. What's special about this guy is that it generates a field that gives mass to all other particles. Basically, you owe everything to the existence of this particle (assuming the SM is right, which I believe, even more so now that this has been found)

Implications? I couldn't tell you. I can tell you it will be very helpful to our understanding of physics, and who knows what that will lead us to.
Back when we first discovered the properties of electrons, no one would have predicted lights, computers, etc. Likewise, no one can say what this will lead to. But rest assured, it will lead to something.
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Re: So can the scientifically literate explain a bit of the implications of the Higgs Boson in layman terms?
To answer the OP's question, the implications of the Higgs Boson are:

We have effectively proved the Standard Model of physics, which is long, complicated, and look it up on Wiki if you want an answer. I won't summarize it here.

The Higgs Boson was the last undiscovered particle in the Standard Model. Other particles include leptons, quarks, electrons, photons, etc. What's special about this guy is that it generates a field that gives mass to all other particles. Basically, you owe everything to the existence of this particle (assuming the SM is right, which I believe, even more so now that this has been found)

Implications? I couldn't tell you. I can tell you it will be very helpful to our understanding of physics, and who knows what that will lead us to.
Back when we first discovered the properties of electrons, no one would have predicted lights, computers, etc. Likewise, no one can say what this will lead to. But rest assured, it will lead to something.
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Cool stuff bro.
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This kinda worked for me:


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This one is a good explanation, thanks!